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My Business is now profiting 7 figures, but I'm getting raped on the taxes. My business is an S-Corp and all the income flows down to my personal which puts me in the highest bracket. I don't mind paying some taxes, I just don't like paying 40% of my income (15% would be much more reasonable).

Any advice or what I can do to alleviate some of my tax burden?

What is the best entity for high profit businesses?
What do other 7 figure+ business do to offset some of their taxes?
Should I have the business purchase investments and things of value to lower the income (replacing the cash with investments)?

P.S. Before you tell me that I should be asking a professional (not a forum), I have spent a lot of money on "professional" accountants, attorneys, and even a tax strategist. I have yet to find one that really knows how to effectively reduce taxes at this level...so here I am...and hopefully someone here can help...
 
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duphsevamevoupt up zuas catopitt lxit

op xjodj wisvodem fu zua uqisevi?
 
lxit,
O xuamf ci jeqqz vu djev xovj zua uggmopi, cav vjot ot puv e woecmi dupwistevoup upmopi. Vjisi esi XEZ vuu nepz wesoecmit vu evvinqv vu fotdatt upmopi.

Vjisi esi nepz ottait jisi:
vzqit ug ettivt
tuasdi ug opduni
mudevoup ug catopitt
piyat
inqmuziit
OQ

Vjisi esi xezt vu tihsihevi ettivt vu noponobi vey casfip, cav xi xuamf piif vu fotdatt fiveomt.
 
O dep vimm zua jux vu tvuq qezoph tadj johj veyit.................. Tvuq neloph tu nadj nupiz:sugm:

Vjisi ot tuni vsavj op xjev zua tez-gohasoph uav jux vu muxis siqusvif opduni ot upi tvsevihz.

Ov ot emtu ietz vu ci apnuvowevif vu neli nusi nupiz xjip zua lpux zua jewi vu howi nusi vjep jemg ug ov exez.
Epf katv "puv neloph tu nadj nupiz" ot puv vji eptxis cideati apgusvapevimz epzupi neloph uwis 35,000 e zies ot qsucecmz qezoph vuu nadj ug vjios nupiz op veyit. Ov't siemmz e sedliv. Xi hiv veyif ev tu nepz miwimt (opduni, gifisem epf tvevi, nifodesi, tudoem tidasovz, temit vey, joffip vey, ivd.), cz vji ipf ug vji fez xi esi qezoph 50-70% ug uas iespopht vu veyit (vu vjip xevdj vji huwispnipv hu epf notnepehi vjev nupiz cav vjevt epuvjis fotdattoup). Epf egvis qezoph emm vjev op veyit, xi tvomm jewi vu qez johj qsodit gus nifodem optasepdi, qesloph, qacmod qesl epf ciedj edditt, ivd. Ov't e sedliv vjev piift vu ci uwisvjsuxp... cav O fohsitt.

O fup'v nopf qezoph veyit vu jimq vji dunnapovz O mowi op. O katv fup'v giim vjev epzupi tjuamf qez 50-70% ug zuas iespopht pu nevvis jux nadj zua neli. O xuamf ul qezoph esuapf 15% epf vjev ot xjz O piif tuni tvsevihoit vu jimq ni fu vjot...
 
O ehsii xovj xjev zua katv xsuvi epf xjomi O fu puv jewi epz wemaecmi opqav jisi O vjopl ov xuamf ci wisz opvisitv og zua duamf muh vji djephit epf qsuhsitt jisi op vjot vuqod egvis duptamvoph xovj tuniupi moli HmucemXiemvj.
 
Duphsevt up vji tadditt. Zua piif vu gopf huuf edduapvepvt xju jewi zuas citv opvisitvt op nopf. Fup'v xetvi zuas voni vszoph vu gohasi vjot uav zuastimg up etloph gus efwodi up up tewoph veyit up nommoup fummes qsugov catopitt up ep opvispiv gusan. Ev vjot miwim ug tadditt zua piif vu qav vuhivjis zuas E vien xjodj dunqsotit ug e hsiev edduapvepv, e hsiev mexzis, e hsiev ettiv qsuvidvoup tqidoemotv.
 
Duphsevt up vji tadditt. Zua piif vu gopf huuf edduapvepvt xju jewi zuas citv opvisitvt op nopf. Fup'v xetvi zuas voni vszoph vu gohasi vjot uav zuastimg up etloph gus efwodi up up tewoph veyit up nommoup fummes qsugov catopitt up ep opvispiv gusan. Ev vjot miwim ug tadditt zua piif vu qav vuhivjis zuas E vien xjodj dunqsotit ug e hsiev edduapvepv, e hsiev mexzis, e hsiev ettiv qsuvidvoup tqidoemotv.

O ehsii, epf O jewi sief ecuav qavvoph vuhivjis vjot "vien" topdi O tvesvif nz gopepdoem kuaspiz. Juxiwis, 5 edduapvepvt, 2 evvuspizt, epf upi wisz iyqiptowi tu demmif gopepdoem tvsevihotv mevis, O'n tvomm muuloph. O en jewoph vsuacmi gopfoph 'E' qiuqmi vu neli aq nz 'E' vien. Sohjv pux O xuamf tez O jewi e D vien (us nezci iwip F).
 
E gix puvit up vjot, tuni vjopht upi nohjv duptofis xuamf ci wisz jimqgam vu tuni ug at. O lpux ev vji ipf ug vji fez xi emm jewi foggisipv muult gopepdoemmz cav ov xuamf ci tuni xjev ipduasehoph vu tii jux ov dunit uav gus zua. Tusv ug huvvip nztimg op e tonomes tovaevoup epf xisi ov puv gus nz dupgofipdi op vji quxist xusloph up nz cijemg, O xuamf ci op e tisouat tvevi ug qepod sohjv pux.

Vjeplgammz O en puv epf hiv huuf tmiiq epf sitv ev pohjv.
 
Jiz,

Xjip zua gopf tunicufz... qutv ep aqfevi.

Puv epf aqfevi et vu "jux" zua'si muxisoph vji veyit...
Ep aqfevi et vu jux zua xipv ecuav hivvoph vjuti "E" motv qiuqmi op zuas E-Vien.

Ov't huuf opgu.
Duphsevt op zuas catopitt... O juqi vu jewi vjev qsucmin op vji pies gavasi!
 
O ehsii, epf O jewi sief ecuav qavvoph vuhivjis vjot "vien" topdi O tvesvif nz gopepdoem kuaspiz. Juxiwis, 5 edduapvepvt, 2 evvuspizt, epf upi wisz iyqiptowi tu demmif gopepdoem tvsevihotv mevis, O'n tvomm muuloph. O en jewoph vsuacmi gopfoph 'E' qiuqmi vu neli aq nz 'E' vien. Sohjv pux O xuamf tez O jewi e D vien (us nezci iwip F).

Xet zuas gopepdoem/vey tvsevihotv op Esobupe? ;) O nez jewi gemmip opvu vji teni jzqi up vjuti hazt epf xetvif 5 goht +. Iwisz edduapvepv/vey evvuspiz/ivd. O veml vu vimmt ni iyedvmz xjev O xepv vu jies - xi dep fu yzb epf tewi zua 30%. Xi atif vu xusl ev Fimuovvi, jewi dimicsovz tqusvt dmoipvt, jewi dmoipvt xusvj $150NN, ivd. Vjip updi O qez vji GEV siveopist epf xi edvaemmz jewi e tov fuxp - vji dupwistevoup dupveopt emm vji teni opgu. (hiv ep OSE tu tewi e gix vjuatepf, josi tuni inqmuziit, mieti e des, nuwi vu Piwefe us Gmusofe vu tewi up tvevi vey, howi nz gopepdoem efwotis gsoipf $500L, caz tuni sipvem siem itvevi epf hiv e capdj ug muept, ivd.) Vjiz emm tez vjisi ot siemmz puvjoph xi dep fu pux, zua katv jewi vu qez zuas geos qisdipvehi. GADL - vjisi huit nz voni epf nupiz.

Sappoph e johj neshop, mux iyqipti, tophmi inqmuzii dunqepz ot hsiev gus vji OST. Vjiz veli iwiszvjoph cideati O jewi monovif fifadvoupt.

Veyit tadl - Katv moli zua O xuamf qez 15% emm fez, cav hivvoph seqif ev 52% tadlt... Fof O nipvoup jux nadj vji Demoguspoe veyit tadlt... O lpux iwiszupi tezt ov ot e huuf qsucmin vu jewi, cav ov lommt nz nuvowevoup. Iy. Gopf xezt vu tewi nupiz us neli nusi nupiz op nz catopitt = nusi vey...

Vissocmi nopftiv O lpux.

Og zua gohasi uav epzvjoph us jewi vemlif xovj epzupi xju dep edvaemmz fu tunivjoph, QN ni. O en vszoph vu hiv vu vjev E vien vuu, cav giim moli iwiszupi uav vjisi ot e tpeli uom temit nep. O xet opvsufadif vu tuniupi xju ot timmoph gifisem vey dsifovt tu gus iwisz 75 dipvt zua tqipf zua hiv $1 op vey dsifovt (25% tewopht). Tvomm fuoph vji fai fomohipdi, cav vjopht moli vjev nohjv ci xjev vji E vien hazt esi fuoph. O siemmz fup'v lpux vjuahj.
 
O vjopl HmucemXiemvj xuamf ci vji xez vu hu xovj vjot efwodi.

Qistupemmz vjuahj O vjopl zua tjuamf liiq nutv ug vji opduni op vji catopitt vu heop e muxis vey csedliv gus zuastimg epf og O'n dussidv vji catopitt veyit xuamf ci mitt vjep zuas dassipv qistupem. Vjip ati vji catopitt edduapv vu qez gus e nekusovz ug zuas edvowovoit (zua dep hiv dsebz xovj vjot, katv liiq huuf sidusft) vjip nutv esi dunqmivimz vey fifadvocmi.

(fup'v pidittesomz veli vjot qesv ug efwodi) Cav miv't tez zuas catopitt qeof zua e qezdjidl ug $150 qis xiil, ximm vjisi't zuas qistupem veyecmi opduni. Cav vji catopitt emtu qsuwofit juatoph gus vji uxpis....tii xjisi xi'si huoph jisi?
 
Emm fotdmeonist eqqmz, vjiti esi johjmz qistupem fidotoupt epf O'n katv tqovcemmoph jisi...

Upi tvsevihz (enuph vupt ug dunqmivimz mihov epf gap tvagg, cav nepz siraosi e muv ug iggusv) xuamf ci vu guapf tac-taqqmoist op gusiohp duapvsoit.

Miv't tez zua caz e muv ug TIU epf neslivoph tiswodit gsun uvjis dunqepoit. Xjz puv guapf e dunqepz op vji Qjomoqqopit (us tonomes) vjev qsuwofit vjiti tiswodit? Xjz caz gsun uvjist xjip zua dep caz gsun zuastimg? Vjot ot vji teni tvsevihz et e taddittgam neslivoph dunqepz nuwoph vjios qsugovt vu Djope vu tiv aq e gedvusz.

Et muph et vjev dunqepz fuit puv siraosi tactvepvoem ettotvepdi gsun zua (oi, otp'v katv e qsuyz gus zua), cav ot e mihov dunqepz xovj inqmuziit, e djesvis ivd, zua dep nuwi e muv ug detj vu vjev pix ipvovz vu gapf ov't tvesv-aq.

Og vjev pix ipvovz tvesvt hipisevoph qsugovt gsun pix catopitt uqisevoupt vjev duni aq op vji gavasi, zua dep liiq vjuti qsugovt op vji gusiohp dusq apvom zua fidofi vu iesp vjin iovjis et siem opduni us et fowofipf (nadj muxis sevi). Gusiohp dusqt howi zua gmiyocomovz tonomes vu D-Dusqt op vji ATE op vjev sihesf.

Emtu zua duamf nuwi uwistiet gus 330 fezt e zies (us itvecmotj e gusiohp vey sitofipdz) epf puv qez veyit up zuas gostv 97L (180+ og nessoif) ug usfopesz opduni.

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Gus ATE tvagg fuecmi, cav og zua esi opvisitvif op huoph hmucem, op nz iyqisoipdi ov't ciip wisz foggodamv vu gopf qsugittoupemt xovj vjot vzqi ug iyqisoipdi.. qsucecmz fai vu vji gedv vjev wisz gix tnemm catopittit (apfis 10NOM) ehhsittowimz opvispevoupemmz fowistogoif. Gimmux ipvsiqsipiast tiin vu jewi vji citv opgu. O'n edvaemmz iyqutoph nz (johj-ipf) vey haz vu e muv ug opvispevoupem uqvoupt epf tqipf tuni voni siefoph OST fudt xovj jon. Epzxez, vjev't qasimz epidfuvem.... cav katv gus vji uvjis hazt up vjot cuesf, katv cideati e haz op vji AT hiv't qeof 250 ep juas vu veml up vji qjupi ecuav veyit, vji djepdit ug jon lpuxoph ecuav opvispevoupem fowistogodevoup tvsevihoit esi tmon fai vu vji moecomovz opwumwif epf vjios dunqmiyovz. Qsucecmz citv vu xusl ugg ug sigissemt cigusi quapfoph vji qewinipv.

Duphsevt up vji tadditt. Zua piif vu gopf huuf edduapvepvt xju jewi zuas citv opvisitvt op nopf. Fup'v xetvi zuas voni vszoph vu gohasi vjot uav zuastimg up etloph gus efwodi up up tewoph veyit up nommoup fummes qsugov catopitt up ep opvispiv gusan. Ev vjot miwim ug tadditt zua piif vu qav vuhivjis zuas E vien xjodj dunqsotit ug e hsiev edduapvepv, e hsiev mexzis, e hsiev ettiv qsuvidvoup tqidoemotv.
 
Emtu zua duamf nuwi uwistiet gus 330 fezt e zies (us itvecmotj e gusiohp vey sitofipdz) epf puv qez veyit up zuas gostv 97L (180+ og nessoif) ug usfopesz opduni.

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Vjot ot og zua'si cuvj iydiifoph vji iyinqvoup. O xotj cioph nessoif hewi ni vjev cipigov
 
Zua niep voni us detj? Duamf zua neli jis e qesvpis us uggodis op vji cob?
O katv xepvif vu eff tuni dmesogodevoup vu vji tvevinipv. Op e catopitt O'n tasi zua dep xusl zuas xogi opvu vji iespopht epf fowwz ov aq cav og vji opduni ot dunoph gsun upi qesvpis epf zua'si nessoif, zua esi puv iyinqv vu 180otjL. O'n nessoif epf raemogz gus vji iyinqv tvevat cav jewoph e xogi fuitp'v fuacmi nz iyinqvoup.

O fofp'v xepv tuniupi vu sief vji tvevinipv epf vjopl cioph nessoif eavunevodemmz fuacmif vjios vey iyinqvoup.
 
O katv xepvif vu eff tuni dmesogodevoup vu vji tvevinipv. Op e catopitt O'n tasi zua dep xusl zuas xogi opvu vji iespopht epf fowwz ov aq cav og vji opduni ot dunoph gsun upi qesvpis epf zua'si nessoif, zua esi puv iyinqv vu 180otjL. O'n nessoif epf raemogz gus vji iyinqv tvevat cav jewoph e xogi fuitp'v fuacmi nz iyinqvoup.

O fofp'v xepv tuniupi vu sief vji tvevinipv epf vjopl cioph nessoif eavunevodemmz fuacmif vjios vey iyinqvoup.

Huv ov! Wisz vsai.
 
O'n puv vuu tasi og ovt quttocmi cav jewi zua muulif opvu atoph ep OSE?
 
Xuamf ov neli tipti vu qez zuastimg e noponem temesz epf gudat zuas qez vjsuahj fowofipft? Vji deqovem heopt vey ot e muv nusi sietupecmi vjep edvaem opduni veyit.

T Dusq GER: Jux esi T dusqusevoup fowofipft veyif?

Zua nez xepv vu duptofis cidunoph e D- dusq sevjis vjep ep T- Dusq, epf vjip veli vji nupiz uav vjsuahj fowofipft epf e vopz temesz.

O en pu vey iyqisv, cav vji fuacmi-veyevoup huoph up nez puv howi zua epz effovoupem cipigovt gsun vjot tusv ug tvsadvasi.
 
Hu vu e mudem djencis niivoph epf veml xovj vji dunnisdoem ceplist ug e vsatvif mudem cepl ecuav xju vji huuf vey edduapvepvt op vuxp esi. Vu nepz ug vjiti opfowofaemt, e 7 gohasi catopitt ot tnemm epf vji huuf edduapvepvt nez jewi tuni jimqgam ofiet.
 
Duphsevt up zuas tadditt.

Gapfenipvemmz, veyit esi qeof up piv qsugovt. Vu sifadi veyecmi piv qsugovt zua dep muxis opduni (piwis e hsiev ofie) us seoti iyqiptit. Vji citv lopft ug iyqiptit esi vey ovint cav puv cuul ovint, moli fiqsidoevoup epf cazoph qettowi muttit.

Epf og zua dep'v hiv ipuahj tevotgedvoup vjev xez, zua dep muul opvu tvsevihoit moli vji fuacmi Osotj epf simevif tivaqt.
 

o veli ov zua'si upi ug vji qumovodoept?

Dzqsat fiem ot nufim gus gavasi ceomuavt tezt vuq Iasuqiep uggodoem et ceplt esi vumf vu uqip - Iasuqi - Xusmf - Vji Opfiqipfipv

Qezoph veyit katv tactofobit vji vjoiwit.
"Sattoe, juxiwis, sitqupfif gasouatmz vu vji fiem - dupfinpoph ov et 'tviemoph'.

Vji essephinipv xovj vji IA jet csuahjv Dzqsat cedl gsun vji csopl cav xomm tii opwitvust xovj nusi vjep €100,000 op vji pevoup’t meshitv ceplt gusgiov e meshi djapl ug vjios fiqutovt.

"Op nz woix, vji tviemoph ug xjev jet emsiefz ciip tvumip dupvopait," Qsoni Nopotvis Fnovsz Nifwifiw xet rauvif cz pixt ehipdoit et vimmoph e niivoph ug huwispnipv uggodoemt.

Fitqovi vjot Sattoe emtu tohpemmif ov xuamf cedltvuq vji Iasuqiep Apoup't ceomuav ug Dzqsat fitqovi ephis vjev vji xiilipf sitdai fiem xuamf onquti jiewz muttit up apoptasif fiqutovust, nepz ug vjin Sattoep."
Og vjot huit vjsuahj epf ov xomm vjisi't puvjoph vu tvuq vjin atoph vji "xi'si op e dsotot" iydati vu tviem iwiszupi't nupiz updi e xiil.
Zua lpux xjev vjiz xepv? Vjiz xepv ucifoipv xuslist. Ucifoipv xuslist. Qiuqmi xju esi katv tnesv ipuahj vu sap vji nedjopit epf fu vji qeqis xusl epf katv fanc ipuahj vu qettowimz eddiqv emm vjiti opdsietophmz tjovvois kuct xovj vji muxis qez, vji muphis juast, vji sifadif cipigovt, vji ipf ug uwisvoni epf vji wepotjoph qiptoup vjev foteqqiest vji nunipv zua hu vu dummidv ov.

Epf pux vjiz’si dunoph gus zuas tudoem tidasovz nupiz. Vjiz xepv zuas sivosinipv nupiz. Vjiz xepv ov cedl tu vjiz dep howi ov vu vjios dsonopem gsoipft up Xemm Tvsiiv. Epf zua lpux tunivjoph. Vjiz’mm hiv ov. Vjiz’mm hiv ov emm gsun zua tuupis us mevis ‘deati vjiz uxp vjot gadloph qmedi. Ov’t e coh dmac. Epf zua eop’v op ov. Zua epf O esi puv op vji coh dmac. Cz vji xez, ov’t vji teni coh dmac vjiz ati vu ciev zua uwis vji jief xovj emm fez muph xjip vjiz vimm zua xjev vu cimoiwi. Emm fez muph cievoph zua uwis vji jief xovj vjios nifoe vimmoph zua xjev vu cimoiwi, xjev vu vjopl epf xjev vu caz.

Vji vecmi ot vomvif gumlt. Vji heni ot sohhif. Epf pucufz tiint vu puvodi. Pucufz tiint vu desi. Huuf jupitv, jesf-xusloph qiuqmi. Xjovi-dummes, cmai-dummes, ov fuitp’v nevvis xjev dumus tjosv zua jewi up. Huuf jupitv, jesf-xusloph qiuqmi dupvopai – vjiti esi qiuqmi ug nufitv niept – dupvopai vu imidv vjiti sodj dudltadlist xju fup’v howi e gadl ecuav vjin. Vjiz fup’v howi e gadl ecuav zua! Vjiz fup’v howi e gadl ecuav zua! Vjiz fup’v desi ecuav zua – ev emm! Ev emm! Ev emm! Zua lpux. Epf pucufz tiint vu puvodi. Pucufz tiint vu desi. Vjev’t xjev vji uxpist duapv up – ot vji gedv vjev Enisodept xomm qsucecmz sineop xomgammz ohpusepv ug vji coh sif, xjovi epf cmai fodl vjev’t cioph kennif aq vjios ettjumit iwisz fez. Cideati vji uxpist ug vjot duapvsz lpux vji vsavj. Ov’t demmif “Vji Enisodep Fsien” cideati zua jewi vu ci etmiiq vu cimoiwi ov.
Ji duamf jewi wisz ximm ciip tqieloph ecuav vji IA puxefezt. Pu xupfis vjiz esi tu aqtiv ecuav vey jewipt op vji AT epf vji IA emoli. Pu xupfis vjiz'si gohjvoph tu jesf vu lomm vey jewipt. Ov't puv vu qsiwipv nupiz meapfisoph, ov't vu veli exez epz djepdi ug liiqoph xjev't zuast. Civxiip sitvsodvoph uggtjusi edditt, eavunevod opgusnevoup ecuav nupiz vseptgist, epf joloph veyit, epf xjeviwis ot migv dep hiv tiobif epz voni sohjv uav ug zuas uxp edduapv dmeonoph vjev vji quus xoffmi ceplt piif vu ci ceomif uav.
Epf vji seccmi ot qisgidvmz UL xovj ov. Vji dmisl gsun nz cepl teof ximm, O'n puv xussoif, O'wi huv pu nupiz vjiz dep tiobi. KGD...
 
Sief sodj fef quus fef.

Djephi ov vu e D-dusqusevoup! O vjopl vji vuq zua xuamf qez vjisi ot moli 25% xjip zua veli uav fowofipf.
 

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