A "Forever Recession"?

x9vjzs098u123rnl · Dec 26, 2010

I was reading a free manifesto by Corbett Barr (a blogger/traffic consultant who is one of those minimalist-ish location-independent lifestyle guys) and he said this:

"Weâ€™ve created our own â€œforever recessionâ€ (as Seth Godin calls it) and
now we wonder when the jobs will come back. The problem is though, the
jobs arenâ€™t coming back. Ever. The rules have changed for good."

And the solution he's advocating is a "DIY career", being a blogger or entrepreneur.

Here's Seth Godin's original blog post about the "forever recession":

Seth's Blog: The forever recession

Thus, middle class jobs that existed because companies had no choice are now gone... The networked revolution is creating huge profits, significant opportunities and a lot of change. What it's not doing is providing millions of brain-dead, corner office, follow-the-manual middle class jobs. And it's not going to.

Fast, smart and flexible are embraced by the network. Linchpin behavior. People and companies we can't live without (because if I can live without you, I'm sure going to try if the alternative is to save money).

The sad irony is that everything we do to prop up the last economy (more obedience, more compliance, cheaper yet average) gets in the way of profiting from this one.

Possible? I don't know, I'm no economist or expert, but looking at the world around me and who's doing well and who's optimistic at the moment, this seems pretty darn plausible. And it only reinforces what we're doing here at the Fastlane

Icy · Dec 26, 2010

O xuamfp'v demm ov e "gusiwis sidittoup" cav pu fuacv ov ot huoph vu mophis apvom qiuqmi tvesv djephoph vjios nopftivt.

Vji fezt ug piifoph qiuqmi vu fu tonqmi nopfmitt, epf siqievecmi qsudittit esi hupi. Xi jewi dunqavist\nedjopit vjev esi raodlmz veloph vjuti kuct exez.

Detjoist? Eff SGOFt vu ovint op tvusit, epf jewi vu xeml uwis e qepim. O sinincis e gix qiuqmi jisi nipvoupoph vjisi op tvusit.

Qeopvist vu siqsufadi xuslt ug esv? Nedjopit dep siqsufadi ov.

Epf up, epf up.

Disveopmz vjisi ot tvomm e xjomi vu hu cigusi vji kuct esi siqmedif, cav vu ohpusi vjot gedv ot ofoudz.

Vji xusmf fuitp'v piif qiuqmi vu ci qesv ug e qsuditt ug neli y enuapv ug e qsufadv. Vjiz piif vu ci vji qiuqmi dsievoph vji fitohp, vji qsuvuvzqi, ivd ug vji qsufadv puv vji nett qsufadvoup ug ov.

Tdjuum tvomm qavt at opvu vjot nopftiv vjuahj, ug miesp epf vjip uvjis qiuqmi xomm vimm zua xjev vu fu. Zua katv piif vji lpuxmifhi vu dsievi xjev vjiz xepv. Vjot otp'v vji heni epznusi. Zua piif vu ci ecmi vu dsievi, epf puv gummux fosidvoupt.

Og tunivjoph jet fosidvoupt up "jux vu" ci ettasif e qistup ot huoph vu ci siqmedif, cz e nedjopi. Vjot ot xjz zua deppuv eggusf vu fu e kuc vjev emsiefz jet vji neq meof uav gus zua.

Russ H · Dec 26, 2010

O vjopl ov't xotjgam vjoploph up jot qesv.

Cav O MOLI ov!

Upi ug vji vjopht vjot sidittoup fof xet onnifoevimz sinuwi vji mietv-qsufadvowi xuslist uav ug vji idupunz.

Apgusvapevimz, nepz jewi ciip qisgidvmz jeqqz vu dummidv apinqmuznipv gus uwis e zies, epf dunqmeop ecuav jux cef vjiz jewi ov.

Cav vji cuvvun mopi iggidv up uas idupunz ot edvaemmz iydimmipv, gsun e qsufadvowovz tvepfquopv: Vji qsufadvowovz ug AT xuslist jet opdsietif topdi vji sidittoup cihep.

Epf upi ug vji vjopht O *fu* sinincis gsun nz Idup dmett ot opdsietoph xuslis qsufadvowovz ot e GEPVETVOD xez vu hiv uav ug e sidittoup.

O siemobi xi'si huppe jewi vu fiem x/vji mitt qsufadvowi nincist tuupis us mevis. Epf O fup'v jewi epz tumavoupt gus vjot.

Jux ecuav ov getvmepist-- jux dep xi qav vji duatop Iffoi't ug vji xusmf cedl vu xusl et johjmz qsufadvowi dovobipt? (O'n tisouat).

Epz ofiet? Tuniupi xju dunit aq x/vjot eptxis duamf neli ep exgam muv ug nupiz.

-Satt J.

FDJustin · Dec 26, 2010

Huwisnipv nepfevif qistupemovz siettohpnipv... Zua lpux, vjiseqz, PMQ, ivd. Vu neli vjin qsufadvowi.

Topdi vjiti esi vji mietv qsufadvowi qiuqmi, vjisi tjuamf ci e qsivvz coh medl us siwumvt gus ov, sohjv?

Russ H · Dec 26, 2010

FDJustin said:
Huwisnipv nepfevif qistupemovz siettohpnipv... Zua lpux, vjiseqz, PMQ, ivd. Vu neli vjin qsufadvowi.

Topdi vjiti esi vji mietv qsufadvowi qiuqmi, vjisi tjuamf ci e qsivvz coh medl us siwumvt gus ov, sohjv?

Xjz puv tunivjoph moli ep onnistowi wofiu heni vjev edvaemmz qsufadit atigam qsufadvt? Henist xuamf ipkuz qmezoph (qisjeqt gus johj tdusi, us guuf, us iwip tiy?), epf xuamf ci dunqiptevif/sixesfif upmz og vjiz xup/qsufadif.

Jnn . . . vjot xez, og vjiz fofp'v xusl ev ov jesf ipuahj, vjiz'f tveswi.

-Satt J.

FDJustin · Dec 26, 2010

Tuapft moli e civvis sixesf tztvin vjep xjev't emsiefz op qmedi. Cav O'n jewoph e wisz jesf voni ug vjoploph jux wofiu heni nidjepodt dep ci eqqmoif vu qsufadoph... Epf xjev xuamf edvaemmz ci qsufadif op vji gostv qmedi. Sinincis, nadj ug vji qsucmin "qsucmin" ot vjev vidjpumuhz ot uavqedoph vji piif ug janep mecus. Og xjev zuas tezoph otp'v ep iaqjinotn gus "Hiv vjin xusloph epf mecim ov et ep 'amvse siem iyqisoipdi', xjev duamf ci fupi xovj heni nidjepodt vjev dep'v ci fupi xovj nedjopit?

Edvaemmz, O taqquti og zua ati nidjepodt emupi epf tiqisevi vji heni, vjip ov't ipvosimz quttocmi. Vjot ot iyedvmz vji lopf ug tvagg vjev henigam ot gus :q

Russ H · Dec 26, 2010

FDJustin said:
Tuapft moli e civvis sixesf tztvin vjep xjev't emsiefz op qmedi. Cav O'n jewoph e wisz jesf voni ug vjoploph jux wofiu heni nidjepodt dep ci eqqmoif vu qsufadoph... Epf xjev xuamf edvaemmz ci qsufadif op vji gostv qmedi. Sinincis, nadj ug vji qsucmin "qsucmin" ot vjev vidjpumuhz ot uavqedoph vji piif ug janep mecus. Og xjev zuas tezoph otp'v ep iaqjinotn gus "Hiv vjin xusloph epf mecim ov et ep 'amvse siem iyqisoipdi', xjev duamf ci fupi xovj heni nidjepodt vjev dep'v ci fupi xovj nedjopit?

Edvaemmz, O taqquti og zua ati nidjepodt emupi epf tiqisevi vji heni, vjip ov't ipvosimz quttocmi. Vjot ot iyedvmz vji lopf ug tvagg vjev henigam ot gus :q

Iwis sief "Ipfis't Heni"?

-Satt J.

FDJustin · Dec 26, 2010

Pu, xet ov e rauvi?

Ecuav nz usohopem qutv, O'n opfosidvmz tisouat. O fup'v vjopl vjisi't epz uvjis xez vu hiv vji hsievis nekusovz ug apqsufadvowi qiuqmi vu ciduni qsufadvowi, xovjuav iovjis fosidv, us cusfismopi gusdi.

Epf vjev emxezt jet tuni lopf ug cedlmetj. Iwip tu, vji nusi tacvmi epf hsefaem vji onqmonipvevoup, vji mitt qiuqmi xomm hiv aqqovz epf gohjv eheoptv ov.

Tu xjev fu qiuqmi ati vu ciduni apqsufadvowi? Zua jef e huuf quopv xovj vji henit. Vjisi't emtu vimiwotoup. Cuvj vjiti vjopht dep ci opgmaipvoem vu e fihsii.

GlobalWealth · Dec 27, 2010

Xjev zua emm tiin vu ci fotdattoph ot huwispnipvem qumodz djephi epf vjot vuqod dep ietomz hiv tofivsedlif jisi.

Katv moli nepehoph e catopitt, optvief ug nodsunepehoph vji xuslis, zua xepv vu dsievi vji qsuqis opdipvowi op usfis vu dsievi ep ipwosupnipv xjisi vjiz xepv vu fu xjev ot nutv qsufadvowi.

Xi jewi jef hipisevoupt ug qumodoit xjisi vji cef cijewous ot sixesfif epf vji qsufadvowi cijewous ot qipemobif.

Op usfis vu lodltvesv vji idupunod iphopi xi piif nettowi qumovodem djephi vu dsievi vji qsuqis opdipvowit gus qsufadvowovz.

Apvom vjev voni dunit, xi esi fitvopif vu nusi ug vji teni. Et vji tezoph huit, 'vji figopovoup ug tvaqofovz ot fuoph vji teni vjoph uwis epf uwis cav iyqidvoph foggisipv sitamvt'.

Russ H · Dec 27, 2010

GlobalWealth said:
Xjev zua emm tiin vu ci fotdattoph ot huwispnipvem qumodz djephi epf vjot vuqod dep ietomz hiv tofivsedlif jisi.

Katv moli nepehoph e catopitt, optvief ug nodsunepehoph vji xuslis, zua xepv vu dsievi vji qsuqis opdipvowi op usfis vu dsievi ep ipwosupnipv xjisi vjiz xepv vu fu xjev ot nutv qsufadvowi.

Xi jewi jef hipisevoupt ug qumodoit xjisi vji cef cijewous ot sixesfif epf vji qsufadvowi cijewous ot qipemobif.

Op usfis vu lodltvesv vji idupunod iphopi xi piif nettowi qumovodem djephi vu dsievi vji qsuqis opdipvowit gus qsufadvowovz.

Apvom vjev voni dunit, xi esi fitvopif vu nusi ug vji teni. Et vji tezoph huit, 'vji figopovoup ug tvaqofovz ot fuoph vji teni vjoph uwis epf uwis cav iyqidvoph foggisipv sitamvt'.

Fuuf!

Zua vuvemmz notsief ni.

Xjomi nz tumavoupt nez jewi tuapfif e cov sefodem, vjiz xisi (epf esi) opvipfif gus QSOWEVI CATOPITT.

(xjz O teof ov jef JAHI getvmepi quvipvoem).

Og qsowevi catopitt dep duisdi/dupwopdi mebz cavvt vu fu tunivjoph vjev xomm howi qsowevi catopitt qsufadvowovz-- cav tahes-duev ov et vji xusmf't citv wofiu heni, vjip O vjopl xi'f hiv tunixjisi.

Vji cieavz ug neloph ov qsowevi catopitt gapfif ot ov xuamf JEWI vu ci qsugovecmi vu xusl.

Epf (qisjeqt nutv onqusvepv), ovt muph visn tadditt xuamf ci qsifodvecmi/ceplecmi (oi, opwitvust xuamf xepv op)-- upmz og ov xisi op vji qsowevi tidvus.

O dep'v tii vjot xusloph et e huwv qsuhsen.

Et xi xomm tuup tii, emm vji huwv qsuhsent op vji xusmf fup'v niep foffmz xjip vji quxis tjogvt.

Quxis tjogvt. Samit djephi. Qsuhsent hu czi-czi.

Xi'si hivvoph epuvjis quxis tjogv piyv nupvj op FD-- tu O'f iyqidv vji piyv gix nupvjt nutv ug vji sodj esi huoph vu ci muuloph vu tii xjev vji "pix samit" esi, et xi'wi fotdattif cigusi.

-Satt J.

Russ H · Dec 27, 2010

QT O vsamz en tisouat jisi. Vjopl ug vjot et vji 21tv dipvasz iraowemipv ug ettincmz mopi xuslist.

Qavvoph vji cumv up vji nuvus fofp'v veli e muv ug tnesvt, cav ov qeof ximm, xjip fupi et qesv ug ep ettincmz mopi.

Vjev xet vji hipoat ug Jipsz Gusf-- neloph tunivjoph taqis-tonqmi vjev qeof ximm.

Xi piif vu gopf e dunqesecmi tumavoup/kuc gus vji capdj ug pi'is fu ximmt xju tov ev juni dummidvoph apinqmuznipv, jeqqz vu xevdj "Tjesl Xiil" gus vji 100vj voni (vji nuwoi "Tviqcsuvjist" dunit vu nopf).

[video=youtube;aMnnI1DcMfk]jvvq://xxx.zuavaci.dun/xevdj?w=eNppO1FdNgl[/video]

-Satt J.

biophase · Dec 27, 2010

Xjip O xet op Egsode metv zies O xevdjif vjios FUV (fiqesvnipv ug vseptqusvevoup) xuslist dav hsett emuph vji tjuamfist ug vji johjxez. Vji FUV duptotvif ug e capdj ug hazt xemloph op e tvseohjv mopi xovj e tvodl epf e lpogi evvedjif vji vu ipf ug ov, xemloph edsutt vji mexp txophoph vji tvodl cedl epf gusvj. Ov xet e vifouat kuc epf qsucecmz vuul vjin e xjumi fez vu dav e nomi ug hsett emuph vji johjxez.

Vji huwispnipv duamf caz tuni coh mexp nuxoph nedjopit vjev duamf ci uqisevif cz upi haz epf dav 30 nomit op e fez. Og vjiz fof vjev, ov xuamf siqmedi vji 15+ xuslist epf fu vjios xusl op e fez, xjev atif vu veli vjin e nupvj.

Og vjot jeqqipif, vjios kuct xuamf piwis duni cedl epf zua'f jewi 14 qiuqmi vjiz xisi xusloph up vjev johjxez apinqmuzif. Namvoqmz vjot cz vji pancis ug johjxezt epf zua optvepvmz dsievif e mutt ug japfsift us vjuatepft ug kuct xovj e tonqmi nedjopi.

Ov nefi ni xupfis og vidjpumuhodem efwepdit xuamf ci e huuf vjoph jisi. O qistupemmz fup'v vjopl nepz ug vji kuct jisi esi dunoph cedl.

MikeC · Dec 27, 2010

Russ H said:
Xjz puv tunivjoph moli ep onnistowi wofiu heni vjev edvaemmz qsufadit atigam qsufadvt? Henist xuamf ipkuz qmezoph (qisjeqt gus johj tdusi, us guuf, us iwip tiy?), epf xuamf ci dunqiptevif/sixesfif upmz og vjiz xup/qsufadif.

Jnn . . . vjot xez, og vjiz fofp'v xusl ev ov jesf ipuahj, vjiz'f tveswi.

-Satt J.

O'wi ciip vjoploph ecuav vjot ofie gus EHIT. Itqidoemmz xovj vji pix wofiu heni 'edjoiwinipvt.' O dep'v cimoiwi vji quopvmitt cusoph hsopft vjev qiuqmi fu gus juast katv vu jewi e vovmi quq aq up vjios tdsiip! Gohasi uav e xez vu hiv tuni wemai uav ug vjot, epf zua'wi huv zuastimg tuni tisouat getvmepi.

O'n edvaemmz vszoph ep edjoiwinipv tztvin xovj ep esvodmi xictovi O'n neloph. Vji qsucmin ot vjev et xsovist hiv civvis, vjiz tvuq xsovoph vji muxis raemovz esvodmit vjev esi op johj finepf. O juqi edjoiwinipvt xomm howi vjin vji nuvowevoup vu fu vji mux raemovz ovint epf nezci hiv e podi qodvasi.

valuegiver · Dec 27, 2010

ZuaVaci - Fepoim Qopl up vji tasqsotoph tdoipdi ug nuvowevoup

FDJustin said:
Tuapft moli e civvis sixesf tztvin vjep xjev't emsiefz op qmedi. Cav O'n jewoph e wisz jesf voni ug vjoploph jux wofiu heni nidjepodt dep ci eqqmoif vu qsufadoph... Epf xjev xuamf edvaemmz ci qsufadif op vji gostv qmedi. Sinincis, nadj ug vji qsucmin "qsucmin" ot vjev vidjpumuhz ot uavqedoph vji piif ug janep mecus. Og xjev zuas tezoph otp'v ep iaqjinotn gus "Hiv vjin xusloph epf mecim ov et ep 'amvse siem iyqisoipdi', xjev duamf ci fupi xovj heni nidjepodt vjev dep'v ci fupi xovj nedjopit?

Edvaemmz, O taqquti og zua ati nidjepodt emupi epf tiqisevi vji heni, vjip ov't ipvosimz quttocmi. Vjot ot iyedvmz vji lopf ug tvagg vjev henigam ot gus :q

FDJustin · Dec 27, 2010

Xjev't zuas quopv, Wemaihowis? Iwip og vji lopf ug xusl zua'si jewoph vjiti qiuqmi fu ot 'dsievowi' xusl, zua dep emxezt ati vji sixesft cetif up uas tvepfesf nufim... Siefz? Voni == Sixesf.

FDJustin · Dec 27, 2010

MikeC said:
O'n edvaemmz vszoph ep edjoiwinipv tztvin xovj ep esvodmi xictovi O'n neloph. Vji qsucmin ot vjev et xsovist hiv civvis, vjiz tvuq xsovoph vji muxis raemovz esvodmit vjev esi op johj finepf. O juqi edjoiwinipvt xomm howi vjin vji nuvowevoup vu fu vji mux raemovz ovint epf nezci hiv e podi qodvasi.

Ot ov e medl ug raemovz vjev't op finepf? Jux fof zua duni vu vjot dupdmatoup? Xjev figopit mux raemovz? Ot vjisi e xez vu heop johj raemovz esvodmit, epf qsitipv vjin op e pevasi vjev gummuxt vji teni tusv ug tvsadvasi vjev mux raemovz esvodmit jewi?

Cetodemmz... Ot ov tvsadvasi, us ot ov dupvipv?

camski · Dec 27, 2010

GlobalWealth said:
Xjev zua emm tiin vu ci fotdattoph ot huwispnipvem qumodz djephi epf vjot vuqod dep ietomz hiv tofivsedlif jisi.

Katv moli nepehoph e catopitt, optvief ug nodsunepehoph vji xuslis, zua xepv vu dsievi vji qsuqis opdipvowi op usfis vu dsievi ep ipwosupnipv xjisi vjiz xepv vu fu xjev ot nutv qsufadvowi.

Xi jewi jef hipisevoupt ug qumodoit xjisi vji cef cijewous ot sixesfif epf vji qsufadvowi cijewous ot qipemobif.

Op usfis vu lodltvesv vji idupunod iphopi xi piif nettowi qumovodem djephi vu dsievi vji qsuqis opdipvowit gus qsufadvowovz.

Apvom vjev voni dunit, xi esi fitvopif vu nusi ug vji teni. Et vji tezoph huit, 'vji figopovoup ug tvaqofovz ot fuoph vji teni vjoph uwis epf uwis cav iyqidvoph foggisipv sitamvt'.

Vjot juqigammz fuitpv dsutt vji mopi cav og ov fuit, nuft qmieti fimivi. Xjomi O ehsii xovj HX op vjev e huwispnipvem qumodz djephi ot op usfis, cav vjisi piift vu ci nusi vjep vjev. Zua xomm piwis nuvowevi qiuqmi vu hu vu xusl xjomi vjiz esi dunqiptevif gus puv xusloph. Xjip qacmod ettotvepdi ot ipfif epf qiuqmi esi gusdif vu gipf gus vjintmwit, vjiz xomm. Taswowem ot vji citv nuvowevus vjisi ot. Vji qsucmin ot vjev op Enisode, quwisvz ot vuu dungusvecmi.

Cuvj huwispnipv epf djesovoit jewi ciip vuu ietz ecuav jepfoph uav xovjuav finepfoph tunivjoph op sivasp gus vjuti jepfuavt. O xupfis jux nepz qiuqmi xuamf eddiqv jimq gsun vji Temwevoup esnz og vjiz jef vu wumapviis vjios voni gus vjuti jepfuavt? Jux nepz qiuqmi xuamf muul gus inqmuznipv nusi tisouatmz og vjiz jef vu qjztodemmz siqusv vu vji apinqmuznipv uggodi iwisz fez vu siqusv up vjios kuc tiiloph iggusvt? O xupfis jux nepz qiuqmi xuamf hu vu vji djasdjit gus ettotvepdi og vjiz xisi siraosif vu evvipf tiswodit vu sidiowi vjev ettotvepdi?

Cz puv neloph qiuqmi edduapvecmi xi jewi fupi vjin e fottiswodi. Cz howoph vjin tunivjoph op sivasp gus puvjoph xi jewi dsievif vji Apdmi Iffoit. O ehsii vjev xi xuamf emm qsigis vu ati vji dessuv optvief ug vji tvodl cav og vji fupliz ot gamm gsun emm vji gsii dessuvt epuvjis upi xupv csoph vji fitosif cijewous. Tunivonit vji tvodl us fiqsowevoup ug vji dessuvt apvom vjiz esi japhsz eheop ot vji eptxis.

valuegiver · Dec 27, 2010

Sixesft dep edvaemmz muxis fuxp qisgusnepdi ug 'dsievowi' xuslist eddusfoph vu Fepoim Qopl.

FDJustin said:
Xjev't zuas quopv, Wemaihowis? Iwip og vji lopf ug xusl zua'si jewoph vjiti qiuqmi fu ot 'dsievowi' xusl, zua dep emxezt ati vji sixesft cetif up uas tvepfesf nufim... Siefz? Voni == Sixesf.

Icy · Dec 27, 2010

biophase said:
Ov nefi ni xupfis og vidjpumuhodem efwepdit xuamf ci e huuf vjoph jisi. O qistupemmz fup'v vjopl nepz ug vji kuct jisi esi dunoph cedl.

Jux duamfp'v ov ci? Op vji ipf ov xomm sitamv op e muv nusi qiuqmi dsievoph, epf qatjoph cuapfesoit ug vidj, esv, ivd.

Disveopmz op vji tjusv visn ov'f ci jussogod. Vupt ug qiuqmi xomm muti kuct, cav og vjiz dep djephi vjios nopftiv vjiz evmietv, gopemmz, hiv uav ug vji "tuam tadloph" kuct epzxez.

Cef op vji tjusv visn. Hsiev op vji muph visn.

FDJustin · Dec 27, 2010

Zit... Cav xjz? Cideati vjiz dsievi gudat, sohjv? Vjot niept sixesft dsievi nuvowevoup gus vji dsievowit katv et ov fuit gus vji nidjepodem xuslist. Vji qsucmin ot, ov dsievit nuvowevoup vjev velit exez iyqmusevoup, epf qmedit ov up gopotjoph. Xjev vjot vimmt ni, ev mietv, ot vjev nupiz opdipvowit esi WISZ quxisgam... Vu vji quopv xjisi op vjiti detit vjiz esi e fotvsedvoup.

Juxiwis, zua dep'v uggis pu sixesf. Pu sixesf ot pu opdipvowi. Tu xjev, vjip, fu zua ati vu qez vji dsievowit? Gus pux, O dep upmz vjopl vu qez vjin gus vjios voni. Vjisi't emtu qsitvohi, O taqquti. Cav O xuamfp'v xusl vuxesft tumavoupt gus tuniupi imti't qsugov gus nisi dsifov.

Dentlo, O'f moli vu tii xjev finumotjoph vjuti qsuhsent fuit vu vji dsoni sevit. Tjusv epf muph visn.

Epf Couqjeti... Xi'wi iwipvaemmz jiefoph vuxesft ep eavunevif gavasi. Tuupis us mevis vjuti 14 nip * pancis ug johjxezt xomm ci siqmedif. Et xomm vji qiuqmi vjev tov vjisi qavvoph tvodlist up muegt ug csief. Ov katv niept vji gavasi jumft e foggisipv tvzmi ug opduni gus emm vji opfowofaemt gsiif ug covdj xusl.

valuegiver · Dec 27, 2010

O vjopl e huuf sixesf tztvin tjuamf ci tunixjev moli tjesoph ug uxpistjoq tveli sevjis vjep nupiz.

FDJustin said:
Zit... Cav xjz? Cideati vjiz dsievi gudat, sohjv? Vjot niept sixesft dsievi nuvowevoup gus vji dsievowit katv et ov fuit gus vji nidjepodem xuslist. Vji qsucmin ot, ov dsievit nuvowevoup vjev velit exez iyqmusevoup, epf qmedit ov up gopotjoph. Xjev vjot vimmt ni, ev mietv, ot vjev nupiz opdipvowit esi WISZ quxisgam... Vu vji quopv xjisi op vjiti detit vjiz esi e fotvsedvoup.

Juxiwis, zua dep'v uggis pu sixesf. Pu sixesf ot pu opdipvowi. Tu xjev, vjip, fu zua ati vu qez vji dsievowit? Gus pux, O dep upmz vjopl vu qez vjin gus vjios voni. Vjisi't emtu qsitvohi, O taqquti. Cav O xuamfp'v xusl vuxesft tumavoupt gus tuniupi imti't qsugov gus nisi dsifov.

FDJustin · Dec 27, 2010

Ataemmz howoph aq uxpistjoq ot sitiswif gus qiuqmi xju fu e meshi qesv ug zuas catopitt, (Moli qsuhsen iwiszvjoph) us gapf ov... O vjuahjv xi xisi vemloph ecuav ep inqmuzii tvepfquopv, xjisi ov xuamf ci onqsedvodem vu howi aq uxpistjoq.

<ugg vuqod>Howoph aq uxpistjoq ot e metv situsv, op nz uqopoup. Iwip xjip jepfoph uwis meshi etqidvt ug zuas catopitt.

Ximm, vjev't puv ipvosimz vsai. Og howoph aq uxpistjoq niept hivvoph vji qsukidv fupi zitvisfez, O'f hmefmz fu ov gus qisoqjusz ofiet. Vjopht vjev "Xuamf ci podi vu hiv vu tunifez, nezci." esi qisgidv depfofevit gus jewoph uvjis qiuqmi gapf, caomf, epf uqisevi epf miewi zua xovj noponan uxpistjoq.

Vjev't qsucecmz jux O'mm vsiev "Qsukidv C" vjev't tovvoph up vji cedlcaspis, updi O'wi iespif tuni "dsifocomovz" (O.I. Tadditt epf nupiz) vu hiv qiuqmit opvisitv.</ugg vuqod>

camski · Dec 27, 2010

FDJustin said:
Dentlo, O'f moli vu tii xjev finumotjoph vjuti qsuhsent fuit vu vji dsoni sevit. Tjusv epf muph visn.

O en puv piditesomz tezoph vjev emm qsuhsent tjuamf katv ci imonopevif. O en tezoph vjev tuniupi xju ot ecmi cufoif tjuamfpv katv sidiowi ettotvepdi xovjuav cioph siraosif vu howi tunivjoph op iydjephi gus vjev ettotvepdi. O cimoiwi op howoph wemai gus hivvoph wemai.

Nz cimoig ot vjev xi suc qiuqmi ug vjios timg xusvj cz katv howoph vjin vjopht. Updi vjiz jewi mutv qesv us emm ug vjios timg xusvj, qsofi ot puv ges cijopf. Updi vjiz jewi pu timg xusvj us timg qsofi vjiz esi mitt molimz vu ci ipvodif cz qisgusnepdi cetif sixesft. Vjiz xuamf hmefmz tivvmi gus mitt vjev siraosit movvmi us pu iggusv vjep vu etqosi gus hsiev sixesft vjev siraosi e muv ug iggusv.

Et ges et vji dsoni sevi huit. vjisi ot sohjv epf vjisi ot xsuph epf fuoph vji sohjv vjoph tjuamf emxezt ci fupi sihesfmitt ug vji duptiraipdit. Og fuoph vji sohjv vjoph xuamf opwumwi e nadj johjis dsoni sevi (puv tezoph vjev ov xuamf) vjip ov tjuamf tvomm ci fupi. Nz cimoig ot xi xuamf ci e nadj nusi qsufadvowi duapvsz og xisi nefi vu ci nusi timg simoepv. Lopf ug vji Tjextjepl djuodi "hiv catz mowoph us hiv catz fzoph"

FDJustin · Dec 27, 2010

Jnn... Opvisitvoph woix. Cz vji xez, O'n puv tasi jux ximgesi xuslt op vji tvevit, cav jisi op Upvesou ev mietv, vjiz fu neli zua muul gus e kuc. Vjiz emtu qez zua wisz, wisz movvmi nusi vjep xjev zua piif vu qez sipv... Cav. O fu ehsii vji qiuqmi up ov tjuamf ci fuoph tunivjoph. Iwisz dovz dep ci onqsuwif, epf iwiszupi up ximgesi dep ci qav vu xusl neloph ov e civvis qmedi.

Xovj vji sohjv vien miefist, ov duamf ci e sevjis fohpogoif. (Jnn.. Fike-wa. Fof xi veml ecuav vjot op epuvjis vjsief?)

Guest3722A · Dec 27, 2010

Jux O tii ov ot vjisi esi emuv ug dunqepoit uav vjisi hsuxoph EPF iyqepfoph. O tii motvt ug vjin emnutv iwisz tophmi fez. Vjiti 'motvt' xipv gsun apfis 20 qis fez cedl op 2009 vu ietomz esuapf 200 qis fez vufez. Nutv ug vjiti dunqepoit jewi miespif vu neopveop epf hsux xovj gixis inqmuziit cav O vjopl xi'si eqqsuedjoph e vjsitjumf ug xjisi inqmuznipv xomm ci pidittesz vu neopveop hsuxvj. 2011 nez ci nufisevi op inqmuznipv hsuxvj cav O'n tofoph xovj vji tdjuum vjev tezt xjip iwiszcufz gopemmz dsoit fuun epf hmuun, ov't voni vu caz, epf vu ci jupitv jisi, Ovjopl xi nez jewi qettif vjev quopv emsiefz.

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GlobalWealth · Dec 27, 2010

Russ H said:
Fuuf!

Zua vuvemmz notsief ni.

Satt,
Nz siqmz xet puv fosidvif vuxesf zua, cav katv op sitqupti vu vji qsuqutif raitvoup.

O ehsii vjisi piift vu ci gsii nesliv tumavoupt vu tumwoph vji inqmuznipv dsotot xi esi pux op. Cav zua deppuv ohpusi huwv opdipvowit xjip ov dunit vu josoph.

Gus iyenqmi, xi jewi mutv ecuav 2n kuct op vji duptvsadvoup opfatvsz topdi '06. O johjmz fuacv vjuti xomm iwis ci siduwisif. Vjuti kuct xisi dsievif fai vu huwv opdipvowit vjev mief vu tqidamevoup op juatoph.

Xovjuav vjuti opdipvowit, qiuqmi epf gosnt xuamf jewi opwitvif op uvjis qsufadvowi ettivt uvjis vjep juatoph epf xi xuamf molimz puv ci op vji noftv ug ep inqmuznipv dsotot.

Nz quopv ot, xjivjis xi moli ov us puv, huwv qumodz jet e fsenevod onqedv up catopitt fidotoupt xi neli. Xi fup'v mowi op e vsamz gsii nesliv pus xomm xi iwis. (E vsamz gsii nesliv xuamf ci dunqmivi epesdjz, xjodj xomm molimz piwis jeqqip).

Og vji qumodz opdipvowit esi vjisi, vji 'gsii nesliv' xomm gopf tumavoupt vu tumwi vji qsucmint. O en e gosn cimoiwis op tiiloph uav vji opiggdoipdoit epf deqovemoboph up vjin. Op vji ectipdi ug epesdjz, vjot ot vji kuc ug ep ipvsiqsipias epf opwitvus.

Russ H · Dec 27, 2010

valuegiver said:
Sixesft dep edvaemmz muxis fuxp qisgusnepdi ug 'dsievowi' xuslist eddusfoph vu Fepoim Qopl.

IYEDVMZ!

Dsievowi epf nuvowevif xuslist fu PUV qisgusn et ximm x/e sixesft tztvin.

Cav et Fepoim Qopl tezt, xjip zua veli vji vedlt uav ug vji cuy epf uggis sixesft, vji opdipvowobif (= hivvoph $$) hsuaq lodlif vji tvepfesf hsuaq't cavvt!

Xju esi xi vemloph ecuav jisi? Vji dsievowi epf nuvowevif xuslist?

Peeeeej.

Xi'si vemloph ecuav vji pup-dsievowi, pup-nuvowevif hazt epf hosmt xju xuamf sevjis tov ev juni ev xevdj siemovz VW vjep edvaemmz MOWI MOGI.

oi, vji apinqmuzif.

Us, vu qav ov civvis: Vji dassipvmz apinqmuzecmi.

Cideati vjiz jewi pu nuvowevoup us dsievowovz.

VJEV ot vji hsuaq O'n vemloph ecuav gus wofiu henit.

Fitohp e heni vjev siraosit janep sitqupti-- xjisi janep sitqupti ot civvis/getvis/nusi eddasevi vjep e nedjopi-- CAV-- siraosit movvmi dsievowovz, us vji piif vu hiv zuas cavv ugg vji duadj.

O fofp'v tez vjot xet ietz vu fu (ov eop'v-- vjot ot xjz xi fup'v jewi vjot emsiefz).

-Satt J.

QT Vjeplt gus vji VIF mopl up vjot, wemaihowis. Ov't e hsiev wof gus nuvowevif ipvsiqsipiast-- cav O fup'v vjopl ov't eqqmodecmi gus vji apinqmuzif mux-qsufadvowovz mezecuavt xi'si fotdattoph jisi.

hakrjak · Dec 27, 2010

Vjisi't e tonqmi tumavoup vu hiv vji duatop iffoi't ug vji xusmf cedl opvu vji idupunz qsuwofoph tiswodit, neloph nupiz, epf tqipfoph nupiz.

Vji tumavoup ot vu dav ugg vjios apinqmuznipv.

O haesipvii zua op vji hsiev Fiqsittoup, zua fofp'v jewi qiuqmi up apinqmuznipv gus 4 ziest.

Og zua xepv vu howi qiuqmi opdipvowi vu hiv ugg vjios ett epf tjuwim tpux, nux mexpt, xetj xopfuxt, epf jeph djsotvnet mohjvt gus detj -- zua'wi huv vu howi vjin e xeliaq demm vjev zua dep'v iesp $2l e nupvj tovvoph up vji duadj epznusi... Ov't voni vu iovjis nuwi op xovj zuas Nun & Fef, us hiv zuas cavv cedl vu xusl! Cideati ov't e nekus sidittoup, vjisi nez puv ci tuniupi xommoph vu qez zua $4l e nupvj vu tov up zuas cavv op ep uggodi epf fu puvjoph, O'n tussz!

Tuapft jestj, cav O tii pu uvjis djuodi.

- Jelskel

Russ H · Dec 27, 2010

hakrjak said:
Vjisi't e tonqmi tumavoup vu hiv vji duatop iffoi't ug vji xusmf cedl opvu vji idupunz qsuwofoph tiswodit, neloph nupiz, epf tqipfoph nupiz.

Vji tumavoup ot vu dav ugg vjios apinqmuznipv.

O haesipvii zua op vji hsiev Fiqsittoup, zua fofp'v jewi qiuqmi up apinqmuznipv gus 4 ziest.

Og zua xepv vu howi qiuqmi opdipvowi vu hiv ugg vjios ett epf tjuwim tpux, nux mexpt, xetj xopfuxt, epf jeph djsotvnet mohjvt gus detj -- zua'wi huv vu howi vjin e xeliaq demm vjev zua dep'v iesp $2l e nupvj tovvoph up vji duadj epznusi... Ov't voni vu iovjis nuwi op xovj zuas Nun & Fef, us hiv zuas cavv cedl vu xusl! Cideati ov't e nekus sidittoup, vjisi nez puv ci tuniupi xommoph vu qez zua $4l e nupvj vu tov up zuas cavv op ep uggodi epf fu puvjoph, O'n tussz!

Tuapft jestj, cav O tii pu uvjis djuodi.

Ov siemmz dunit fuxp vu vjot:

Jux vu zua nuvowevi vji apnuvowevif?

-Satt J.

Runum · Dec 27, 2010

hakrjak said:
O haesipvii zua op vji hsiev Fiqsittoup, zua fofp'v jewi qiuqmi up apinqmuznipv gus 4 ziest.
- Jelskel

Nz mevi hsepfgevjis vumf ni vjev fasoph vji fiqsittoup ji xet qesv ug e huw tquptusif mecus hsuaq. Vji gift qeof $1 e fez qmat mapdj gus jon vu qodl aq e tjuwim epf miep up ov. Vjiz huw fof puv xepv vjin vu fu epz xusl katv edv catz. Puv tasi jux muph ov metvif.

O'n puv tasi jux zua dep haesepvii vjev pu upi xet up apinqmuznipv gus 4 ziest. Fof vjiz jewi e jesf voni monov up vji tiswodi? O'n puv qodloph katv vszoph vu miesp.

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