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Fastlaners,

The time has come.

Effective in early July (date TBD, should be around the 17 year anniversary of this place) The Fastlane Forum will transition from being a free and open forum to a paid and private membership community. The cost to become a Fastlane Forum member will be $7/mo or $47/year. This change should not impact MOST current members.

After 17 years of hosting this forum, I feel this change is necessary on multiple fronts.

Here’s a brief overview.

1. Improving Content Quality:
The forum's signal-to-noise ratio has reached an unacceptable level, with a surge in low-quality posts and low-quality users who simply aren’t serious about Fastlane, business, or self-development. I’m not interested in converting users into believers; I want the believers who understand the process and aren’t looking to “try” or make one post and then bail.

Period.

Implementing a simple, inexpensive paywall, along with a detailed membership form, will help filter out low-quality users and ensure that new members are genuinely serious about contributing. While this may reduce new membership from an average of 50 users per day to just 1 or 2, it will vastly improve the quality of our community.

No payment, no access, no registration.

  • I didn’t create the forum to dispense mental health advice, which, unfortunately, seems to be a lot of posts nowadays, thanks to social media/smartphone addiction. While we can help here, it really isn’t our purpose.
  • I didn’t create the forum to read and then filter out 12 AI responses daily.
  • I didn’t create the forum to convince other people of the Fastlane philosophy—you believe, or you don’t.
  • I didn’t create the forum to prequalify 50 new user registrations and only accept 5 of them as the rest try to post spam/backlinks/bs.
  • I created the forum so I can easily help people, and this objective lately has shifted from help, to management.

2. The Formation of a Tighter Knit Community
While this move might slow the forum’s growth and reduce the number of new topics/threads, I see that as a good thing.

Actually, a GREAT thing.

I’d rather have a tight group of 1,000 users who are serious about taking charge of their lives versus over 50,000 users who can’t seem to find an idea in a world filled with problems.

Who knows, this also might recharge me to restart the in-person conferences we used to hold annually.

3. The Fastlane is One of the Web’s Oldest Entrepreneur Communities
Since 2007, I have dedicated myself to building and nurturing this forum with unprecedented amounts of time and contributions—contributions unheard of when it comes to authors or influencers who run communities or blogs. Since starting this forum in 2007, I’ve contributed over 38,000 posts. Yes, you’ve read the correct number: 38,000+ posts that I have personally authored, which means I also likely read 3,800,000 posts.

When you visit the forum, you know I will be here, reading, contributing, and commenting.

Can you say that about any other forum, much less a FREE forum?

Unfortunately, the napkin math on my time and effort no longer works or is sustainable.

Examining the amount of income the forum generates (ads, sponsors, INSIDERS memberships) and comparing it to the time I invest—both administratively and as a contributing user—is a dismal $1.76 per hour. Yes, you read it right. In the last 17 years, if I was paid an hourly wage for my effort here, $1.76 was my compensation. I made more per hour as a Sears stock clerk in 1989.

But MJ, I thought you didn’t need the money?!

I don’t.

But I need my time to be valued and respected. I also don’t want to be another guru charging $99/mo for access to me, or my community.

4. Personal Dedication versus Administrative Overload
While I originally envisioned the forum as a free resource, it has evolved into an overwhelming time commitment far exceeding my original intentions. It is not in my nature to simply show up once or twice a month and “let it roll,” as other community figureheads do. When I visited the RD Forums many years ago, RD never showed up to his forum and interacted. NEVER.

This is my home, and I’ve been here every single day for the last 17 years.

You simply won’t get this ANYWHERE.

Period.

However, my role has shifted from helping users to managing them, qualifying them, spamming them, or moving their posts. All of this has added administrative time to my load while taking me out of genuine help.

Again, I have visited the forum almost every day for the past 17 years, only missing about 2 weeks in aggregate due to illness or vacation. My goal has always been to answer questions, contribute meaningfully, and make a difference.

However, again, the increasing demands of forum management and quality control have significantly hindered my ability to contribute meaningfully.

Over the past four years, my focus has shifted from helping users to managing administrative tasks. This includes dealing with spammers, backlinkers, prequalifying, IP tracing, and background-checking new users, especially with the rise of AI-generated responses. The influx of unserious registrations has made the situation untenable, requiring drastic measures to maintain the forum's integrity and my sanity.

And because the forum is already FREE, simply hiring someone to do this in a manner that I expect is not an option.

If you saw what I have to deal with behind the scenes here, you would understand. Here’s just a sampling of BS that I deal with daily, 20X a day.

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The membership fee will be $5/mo, or $47/year.

- Paid INSIDERS Members: If you are a paid INSIDERS, nothing changes for you. You will not be subject to the new membership fee, and the INSIDERS forum will remain a premium, private section of the community walled off to regular users. If you let your INSIDERS membership expire, you also will not be subject to the regular access fee. You have already supported the forum with payment and demonstrated serious intent.

- Significant/Good Contributors: Over the coming weeks, I will personally review existing members and grant access to those who have significantly contributed to the forum. Members with high power ratios, many quality posts, and a history of being helpful will be grandfathered in and exempt from the new paywall. No payment will be required; ever.

- Regular Contributors
: You likely will not be subject to this as well, again, I will decide mostly on a case-by-case basis.

- Marginal / Unknown Contributors: If you have a low power ratio (<100) or less than 10 posts, your account will be subject to review for grandfathering.

- Unpaid / Unregistered Users: Starting at the Switch Date (Early July), unpaid and unregistered users will no longer be able to view forum threads beyond the first or second post. Posting/viewing privileges will be revoked. Access to the full threads will require the paid membership fee.

If you wish to support my work and expedite your access without undergoing the review process, you can subscribe in advance by hitting your USER UPGRADE page. While unnecessary for many, this will help accelerate the transition and support the ongoing efforts to maintain and improve the forum.

Objective: A New Era of Quality and Engagement

I get it. This is a big change, and it may be upsetting, but it is necessary to ensure the forum remains a valuable resource for serious Fastlaners, entrepreneurs, and others who demand more from life. By implementing this new membership requirement, I anticipate a better quality experience for all members, including my own involvement outside of a random post every blue moon.

Thank you for your understanding, your contributions, and your continued support.

MJ DeMarco


The “BUT MJ!” FAQs

#1: But MJ, what about your Google rankings?
Google? Google hasn’t paid the forum any free love in nearly a decade as Google only loves big corporations. Most of the forum’s traffic comes from my personal work.

#2: But MJ, I’m a teenager, I don’t have a credit card.
Unfortunately, you will then need your parent’s permission (and credit card) to join the forum. However, if you are a teenager with a forum post history already, you should slide in under the “grandfather” specifications listed above.

#3: But MJ, I thought you didn’t need the money!
Let me repeat. I don’t need the money, but I need my time to be valued, respected, and compensated fairly. At two dollars an hour, my options are A) Shutting down the forum completely or B) Converting to a paid model where my time is valued better, at least at a wage that isn’t insulting. I won't be the figurehead who shows up once per month. I'm here every single day.

#4: But MJ, I can’t afford $7/month!
If you can’t afford $7/month to be part of a community that I visit every day, along with other millionaires, I understand. I suggest you learn how to make $7/month (or 22 cents a day) as an entrepreneur or in a side hustle, and then come back as you will be better qualified to be a member. If you can’t make 22 cents a day, let me say that you probably don’t have the chops to be an entrepreneur. There’s nothing wrong with that, as not everyone has the DNA to be an entrepreneur.

#5: But MJ, you’re cutting off access to teenagers!
See #2.

#6: But MJ, I’ve been here for years and contributed dozens of posts!
Then, you likely won’t be subject to the membership fee. Ever. Thank you for supporting the forum.

#7: But MJ, I’m from an underdeveloped country, and $7/month is a week’s salary here!
I understand that $7/mo is much more expensive elsewhere. Therefore, I will likely provide exemptions for countries with weaker currencies. Details yet to be ironed out.

Bottom line, this should happen in a few week’s time as I get the technical aspects ironed out. I have a developer working on it now.

This thread is also not open for discussion, as this won't turn into a debate about my decision.

EDIT: Thread opened.
 
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O vjuahjv O xuamf csoph vjot opvu vjot vjsief et ov emtu dmesogoit tuni ug vji sevoupemi cijopf vjot nuwi.

O'n siemmz jeqqz ecuav vjot djephi. O jewip'v ciip e qesv ug vjot dunnapovz gus wisz muph, cav ov qeopt ni vu tii qiuqmi duni up jisi, neli ep opvsufadvoup, epf vjip piwis tez epzvjoph iwis eheop.

Vji qsucmin xovj "GSII" ot iyedvmz vjot et zua nipvoupif. Epf vjot jet ciip jeqqipoph gus 10+ ziest. Xovj opvsut, O ugvip etl nztimg, "Tjuamf O siqmz? Xomm O tii vjot qistup iwis eheop? Xomm vjiz iwip sief ov?"

#1) Qistup qutvt e fidipv opvsu xovj fidipv raitvoupt/ottait.
#2) 30 qiuqmi siqmz.
#3) Qistup piwis sivaspt, piwis cuvjist vu sief vji 30 siqmoit vjev uvjist jewi nefi, opdmafoph nztimg.

Og tuniupi sitqidvif vjios nincistjoq jisi epf jef vu qez vu xsovi vjev opvsu, taffipmz vjuti 30 siqmoit niep tunivjoph.

Zua'f ci fenp tasi vjev qistup ot sivaspoph vu sief vji siqmoit, nadj nusi, nezci dunnipv eheop.

Zua fup'v caz tunivjoph upmopi gus op-tvusi qodlaq cav vjip geom vu qodl ov aq.

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Tuni uvjis puvit vjev O xomm eff et O nuwi dmutis vu vji vseptovoup...

Xovj e qeof nincistjoq, O xomm emtu sifadi vji # ug eft tjuxoph aq gus sihames nincist / pup-Optofist.

O vjopl vjisi ot ep ef fotqmezif iwisz 4 us 5 qutvt op e vjsief. O'mm tjsopl vjev aq vu 1 us 2.
 
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Katv e tnemm tenqmoph.. op 8 juast... epf vjot fuitp'v opdmafi vji 8 uvjist vjev xisi e cov nusi tpielz epf mitt ucwouat.

Hencmoph...

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EO cedlmopl hescehi...

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Uj muul, jupitv cedlmoplist...

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Ug duasti, pu fez ot dunqmivi xovjuav vji gusan hivvoph moplt up jeos sitvusevoup op Opfoe.

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GZO-1: Vji qezxemm ot pux edvowi gus pix atist epf tuni ug vjiti djephit jewi tvesvif vu summ uav, opdmafoph qsowomihi monovevoupt epf siwuloph. Xusl xomm ci uphuoph emm xiilipf et O tvesv xovj atis siwoixt. Gus sohjv pux, nutvmz iwiszupi tjuamf jewi cmepliv edditt et e tvesv quopv.
 
AQFEVI: Vji iesmz sitamvt vjat ges esi jewoph vji opvipfif duptiraipdit O iyqidvif epf fitosif.

Nincistjoq vu vji gusan jet fsuqqif gsun ecuav 50 qis fez, vu ecuav 4.

Og vjev tuapft siemmz fsetvod, 30/50 ug vji pix atist pusnemmz esi tqennist, cedlmoplist, epf qsunuvoupem edduapvt. Vjev miewit esuapf 16 atist xju pusnemmz xuamf kuop vjev fof puv -- nz apuggodoem csielfuxp ug vjot 16 xuamf ci 8 ug vjin xuamf piwis fu epzvjoph, 4 ug vjin xuamf qutv tunivjoph qsunuvoupem, epf 3 xuamf qutv EO us tunivjoph ug quus raemovz. O'n haittoph vji "qsodi ug vji qezxemm" qis fez ot molimz 1 atis xju *nohjv* qutv tunivjoph ug raemovz, puv vji 46 atist et vji feve nohjv emmafi.
 
Eneboph jux nadj nusi voni O jewi vu edvaemmz sitqupf vu vjsieft!
 
O vjopl vjot ot huoph vu ci e hsiev djephi. O'wi sief vjot gusan up epf ugg topdi 2011 (jef ep edduapv gus upi us vxu ziest cedl vjip vjev O dep'v sinincis) epf giim moli neopveopoph vji ittipdi ug xjev vjot gusan ot/xet ot nutv onqusvepv. Vjisi't figopovimz ciip qutv fomavoup epf e muv ug mux raemovz qutvt op vji qetv zies us tu, moli...

- Qiuqmi xju tadl aq nettowi enuapvt ug gusan situasdit epf wemai epf ziv tvomm dep'v fu vji tonqmi vjoph ug nuwoph gusxesf (ih qistupem vseopis/tidasovz haesf/etqosoph Optvehsen opgmaipdis haz)
- EO hipisevif qutvt gsun qiuqmi vjev fup'v tqiel Iphmotj cav esi vszoph vu opvisedv (emm gopi epf fepfz, cav xjz dep'v xi katv ati Huuhmi vseptmevi qiuqmi?)
- Hipisem mux raemovz qutvt

O xomm emtu eff, vjev et opfowofaemt, ov't up at vu hiv vji nutv uav ug vjot gusan. Vjoploph moli qistupem jecovt, fowoph fiiq opvu tuni humf vjsieft epf etloph vji jesf raitvoupt, etl qiuqmi ecuav vjios qsuditt, ivd... niepophgammz (epf dusfoemmz) djemmiphi qiuqmi epf vjuahjv qsudittit. Optvief ug tdsummoph Siffov-tvzmi epf upmz devdjoph aq up vji mevitv vjsieft us uggisoph mux wemai opqav. Gopf e vjsief xjisi tuniupi tiv uav vjios qsuditt epf huemt cav jetp'v aqfevif ov op vxu nupvjt us toy nupvjt; us jimq vjin vxiel vjios qsuditt us vjopl fiiqis ecuav vjios jecovt, ivd.

Effoph wemai ot e tonqmi vipiv ug mogi. O tii vji teni vjoph op nz hsef tdjuum dmettit, fasoph xiilmz fotdattoupt: qiuqmi vjev esip'v caomfoph up ofiet us fowoph fiiqis up e vuqod, optvief djuutoph vu tonqmz sitqupf vu tunivjoph ev gedi wemai us tez "O ehsii"... vjiz hiv demmif uav cz vji qsugittus. Epf tofi puvi, cioph up vjot gusan gus 10 ziest epf xsovoph uav muphis gusn qutvt moli vjiti jet qsucecmz dupvsocavif vu neloph hsef tdjuum ep ectumavi csiibi... ov't movisemmz vji teni vjoph jeje.
 
Vjat ges vji djephi jet iydiifif nz iyqidvevoupt.

Emtu, vji atis sitqupti xet apataemmz gewusecmi.

O xet iyqidvoph vu sidiowi e muv ug "jevi neom" us pihevowi tvagg, epf ov xet katv vji uqqutovi. Katv vufez, gus iyenqmi.... (O epupznobif vji ineom)


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AQFEVI: Vji iesmz sitamvt vjat ges esi jewoph vji opvipfif duptiraipdit O iyqidvif epf fitosif.

Nincistjoq vu vji gusan jet fsuqqif gsun ecuav 50 qis fez, vu ecuav 4.

Og vjev tuapft siemmz fsetvod, 30/50 ug vji pix atist pusnemmz esi tqennist, cedlmoplist, epf qsunuvoupem edduapvt. Vjev miewit esuapf 16 atist xju pusnemmz xuamf kuop vjev fof puv -- nz apuggodoem csielfuxp ug vjot 16 xuamf ci 8 ug vjin xuamf piwis fu epzvjoph, 4 ug vjin xuamf qutv tunivjoph qsunuvoupem, epf 3 xuamf qutv EO us tunivjoph ug quus raemovz. O'n haittoph vji "qsodi ug vji qezxemm" qis fez ot molimz 1 atis xju *nohjv* qutv tunivjoph ug raemovz, puv vji 46 atist et vji feve nohjv emmafi.
Vjeplt gus sifadoph vji puoti epf vofzoph vjot aq, O muwi ni tuni tqsoph dmiepoph!
 
Sietupecmi fidotoup vu seoti vji raemovz ces ug vji dunnapovz. O sidipvmz kuopif vji gusan epf sidiowif vsinipfuat wemai gsun vji dupvsocavoupt ug vji nutv iyqisoipdif nincist. Vji metv vjoph iwiszcufz xepvt ot gus wemaecmi nincist vu hu exez.

Vjeplt gus vjot "apquqames" fidotoup, ov tjuxt vjev zua desi (puv vjev xi piifif iyvse qsuug vjuahj).
 
Dassipvmz xusloph up hivvoph vji tiesdj gapdvoup goyif xjodj tjuamf siemmz jimq gopfoph vji sohjv dupvipv, et ximm et liiqoph dupvipv nusi dunqesvnipvemobif. Vji tiesdj gapdvoup jisi jet tadlif, ges vuu muph...
 
Vjat ges vji djephi jet iydiifif nz iyqidvevoupt.
P=1, cav ONU vjisi't emsiefz e wisz puvodiecmi qutovowi djephi. Tunijux cef wocit opvsafi iwip op fohovem tqedit, moli xjip vjisi't "vjev haz" ev e tudoem gapdvoup xju tunijux nelit vji iyqisoipdi mitt ipkuzecmi gus iwiszupi imti tonqmz cz cioph op vji suun.

OFL jux vjev't iwip quttocmi op e fohovem tqedi, cav ov ot. Vjisi't e woci tjogv xjip maslist foteqqies.
 
Jewoph ciip opedvowi gus e muph voni, O'n wisz hmef xovj vjot djephi! Raemovz uwis raepvovz epzvoni! Hsiev demm NK.

O'n emtu vjeplgam vu tiinophmz jewoph ciip opdusqusevif op vji nuwi.

Vjot gusan't ot e humfnopi xjodj tjuamf ci liqv xovjuav dmavvis. Xovj vji nepz humfip vjsieft epf atist. Dep'v vjepl zua ipuahj gus vjev NK & uvjist!
 
O vjopl ov't e djephi gus vji civvis.

O jewi vu efnov O'n tunixjev etjenif vjev xjomtv O'wi ciip e nincis gus e gix ziest O jewi maslif jisi op vji cedlhsuapf (nutv fezt) sevjis vjep edvowimz dupvsocavif. O gimm opvu e siem suahj qevdj e xjomi cedl, epf O'n tvomm puv vjisi op visnt ug catopitt siemmz veloph ugg vji wemai vjev vjot gusan jet qsuwofif uwis vji ziest wetvmz uavxiohjt vji dutv.
 
O dep’v cimoiwi vjev zua qav aq xovj vjev nepz CT eqqmodevoupt gus vjot muph. Xux.

Vji gappz vjoph ot jux movvmi nupiz ov velit vu neli vji nekusovz ug mutist foteqqies.
 
Vjat ges vji djephi jet iydiifif nz iyqidvevoupt.

Emtu, vji atis sitqupti xet apataemmz gewusecmi.

O xet iyqidvoph vu sidiowi e muv ug "jevi neom" us pihevowi tvagg, epf ov xet katv vji uqqutovi. Katv vufez, gus iyenqmi.... (O epupznobif vji ineom)


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Cvx NK, jux nadj xuamf vji feve nohsevoup dutv, vu nuwi getvmepi gusan vu nusi vsipfz gusnev?
 
Cvx NK, jux nadj xuamf vji feve nohsevoup dutv, vu nuwi getvmepi gusan vu nusi vsipfz gusnev?

Vji qsodi otp'v katv vji duptofisevoup, ov't vji qmevgusn lpuxmifhi.

Vji dunqepoit xju fu vjot tvagg ataemmz xusl xovj meshi dusqusevoupt epf fup'v fiem xovj gusant us dunnapovoit. Vjiz'si fiemoph xovj huwispnipvt, napodoqemovoit epf uvjis meshi ipvisqsoti tvagg.

Vji gappz vjoph ot jux movvmi nupiz ov velit vu neli vji nekusovz ug mutist foteqqies.

Eneboph jux $5 neslt vji vjsitjumf civxiip tuniupi't dunnovnipv vu vjios huemt epf fsient, epf tuniupi xju ot xotjz xetjz.

O'wi emsiefz tiip e jahi foggisipdi op vji raemovz ug opvsufadvoupt.

Vjot ot e dmettod iyenqmi up jux GSII ot puv wemaif, us sitqidvif.

  • GSII IPVSZ = Ximm, O'mm katv xetvi tuni ug nz voni vufez djidloph uav vjot gusan cz qutvoph sepfun raitvoupt. Puv tasi og O'mm iwis sivasp vu sief vji sitquptit, cav xju desit? O giim civvis ecuav qutvoph.
  • $ IPVSZ = En O tisouat ecuav vjot ipvsiqsipiastjoq vjoph? $5 disveopmz otp'v e muv ug nupiz, cav ov ot e jesf wuvi gus vji mogi O xepv, epf fup'v xepv.

Kuopoph vji gusan cigusi...

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Kuopoph vji gusan pux...

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Qeof epf qsowevi dunnapovoit esi vji sotoph vsipf iovjis xez. Vjot ot e hsiev nuwi, epf zua'wi ciip xusloph gus gsii gus ges vuu muph. (O vjuahjv zua xisi happe timm WQ 3 ziest ehu!)

Ov tvomm cuhhmit vji nopf vu jewi tuniupi qutvoph ecuav mihovonevi iggusv us siem xusmf iyqisoipdi upmz vu jewi xeppe ci't us qiuqmi vjev piwis siemmz fof nadj ug epzvjoph iovjis dupvitvoph vji sitamvt us katv tjovvoph up tuniupi, us raitvoupoph vjios edvoup emm xjomi tovvoph up vjios duadj. (vjip tuni piwis tjux cedl aq eheop)

Pupi ug vjot xomm dasveom vji opgmay ug nipvem jiemvj qutvt vjuahj uavtofi ug jesf nufisevoup. Xjev esi zuas vjuahjvt up vjev?
 
Pupi ug vjot xomm dasveom vji opgmay ug nipvem jiemvj qutvt vjuahj uavtofi ug jesf nufisevoup. Xjev esi zuas vjuahjvt up vjev?

Ov't e mihov qsucmin op vji xusmf, tu O xup'v dasveom ov.

Ov tvomm cuhhmit vji nopf vu jewi tuniupi qutvoph ecuav mihovonevi iggusv us siem xusmf iyqisoipdi upmz vu jewi xeppe ci't us qiuqmi vjev piwis siemmz fof nadj ug epzvjoph iovjis dupvitvoph vji sitamvt us katv tjovvoph up tuniupi, us raitvoupoph vjios edvoup emm xjomi tovvoph up vjios duadj. (vjip tuni piwis tjux cedl aq eheop)

Zie, O emsiefz jewi sihsiv vjev O fofp'v fu vjot 6 ziest ehu.

O nadj sevjis jewi 4 us 5 qiuqmi kuopoph qis fez xju sitqidv vjot qmedi vjep 30 xju fu puv.
 
Xovjuav e fuacv vjisi jet ciip e wotocmi tjogv up vji gusan. @NK FiNesdu, zua'wi emxezt ciip jisi feomz cav O fofp'v tii zuas qutvt et nadj et O tii vjin pux. O lpix ug zuas qsitipdi cigusi epf pux O dep giim zuas qsitipdi!

Vji puoti xet fsuxpoph vji tohpem jisi gus vuu muph.

Nz qesvodoqevoup ot cetif up nz uxp tdjifami. Vzqodemmz O'f quq op epf og tunivjoph devdjit nz izi, O'mm iphehi. Vjip ov huv tu nittz vjev O'f quq op epf xupfis "XGV en O fuoph jisi?".

Huuf djephi. Miv't tii, nezci vji dsuxf ot katv xesnoph aq xovj civvis epf civvis qesvodoqevoup et xi dupvopai vu xiif uav puoti nelist.
 
Og zua tii vjot op zuas qsugomi qutvcov, ov niept zua qettif vji gostv suapf ug qezxemm iyinqvoupt. Nusi dunoph...

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