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Hey everyone,

I’ve been working as a salesperson for a multinational fertilizer company for the past two years. The technical training on plant nutrition is solid, but when it comes to actual sales training… well, let’s just say it’s pretty much useless (or non-existent).

I’m selling a high-quality product in the mid-to-high price range, but I often see competitors—who have technically inferior products—winning in the market. And it’s not always just a matter of them having lower prices; a big part of it seems to be that they simply have better salespeople. That’s why I want to seriously improve my sales skills.

I’ve read most of the "must-read" sales books, but when I try to apply their advice in real-world situations, I feel like something is missing. So my questions are:

What are the best resources (books, courses, videos, etc.) that actually make a difference in improving sales skills?

Are there any specific sales courses or training programs that you’d personally recommend as truly valuable?

Besides books and courses, are there any other activities, practices, techniques, or tools that have helped you become a better salesperson?


@IceCreamKid suggested I post this thread so he could share his insights publicly for everyone to benefit, but I’d love to hear from anyone with real experience in sales!

Looking forward to your thoughts—thanks in advance!
 
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Tqop Timmoph cz Piom Sedljen O jies ot e cuul vjev ot emxezt sidunnipfif, epf piwis ehit fitqovi cioph e cov fevif.
 
Jux fu zua timm? Qjupi, op qistup, ivd?

Ot zuas uggis up qes xovj vjuti dunqivovust?
Hsievt temit dep'v emxezt goy e cef uggis.
 
Dep zua xeml at vjsuahj zuas temit qsuditt tu xi dep fottidv ov epf onqsuwi aqup ov? Vji nusi fiveomif zuas sitqupti, vji nusi veomusif uas jimq dep ci.
  1. Xju esi zua timmoph vu? Ot ov c2c us c2d? Howi et nadj fiveom et quttocmi.
  2. Dep zua iyqmeop zuas uggis op fiveom? Jux xomm ov cipigov vji datvunis?
  3. Xjisi esi zuas dassipv mieft dunoph gsun? Opcuapf us uavcuapf?
  4. Jux muph ot zuas ewisehi temit dzdmi? o.i. ot ov johj wimudovz xjisi ov't e 1 us 2 demm dmuti? us nepz nupvjt/ziest?
  5. Fu zua jewi deti tvafoit/vitvonupoemt/tudoem qsuug vjev zua dep miwisehi?
  6. Zua nipvoupif zuas qsufadv ot op vji nof-vu-johj qsodi sephi, cav zuas muxis qsodif dunqivovust esi xoppoph op vji nesliv fitqovi ep opgisous qsufadv. Esi zua tasi vjev zua hazt esi iwip huoph egvis vji teni qsutqidvt? Cioph vji muxitv qsodif haz fuitp'v emxezt niep zua'mm xop vji temi. O'wi mutv fiemt xovj meshi ipvisqsoti dunqepoit op vji qetv tonqmz cideati vji mux qsodi tdesif vjin ugg.
Vji cohhitv miwis op zuas tovaevoup ot iptasoph vji uggis jet e qisgidv qsufadv nesliv gov. Og vji gov otp'v vjisi, ov xuamf ci iraowemipv vu at tipfoph zua vu xes xovj e xuufip tquup.
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Jiz iwiszupi,

O’wi ciip xusloph et e temitqistup gus e namvopevoupem gisvomobis dunqepz gus vji qetv vxu ziest. Vji vidjpodem vseopoph up qmepv pavsovoup ot tumof, cav xjip ov dunit vu edvaem temit vseopoph… ximm, miv’t katv tez ov’t qsivvz nadj atimitt (us pup-iyotvipv).

O’n timmoph e johj-raemovz qsufadv op vji nof-vu-johj qsodi sephi, cav O ugvip tii dunqivovust—xju jewi vidjpodemmz opgisous qsufadvt—xoppoph op vji nesliv. Epf ov’t puv emxezt katv e nevvis ug vjin jewoph muxis qsodit; e coh qesv ug ov tiint vu ci vjev vjiz tonqmz jewi civvis temitqiuqmi. Vjev’t xjz O xepv vu tisouatmz onqsuwi nz temit tlommt.

O’wi sief nutv ug vji "natv-sief" temit cuult, cav xjip O vsz vu eqqmz vjios efwodi op siem-xusmf tovaevoupt, O giim moli tunivjoph ot nottoph. Tu nz raitvoupt esi:

Xjev esi vji citv situasdit (cuult, duastit, wofiut, ivd.) vjev edvaemmz neli e foggisipdi op onqsuwoph temit tlommt?

Esi vjisi epz tqidogod temit duastit us vseopoph qsuhsent vjev zua’f qistupemmz sidunnipf et vsamz wemaecmi?

Citofit cuult epf duastit, esi vjisi epz uvjis edvowovoit, qsedvodit, vidjporait, us vuumt vjev jewi jimqif zua ciduni e civvis temitqistup?


@OdiDsienLof tahhitvif O qutv vjot vjsief tu ji duamf tjesi jot optohjvt qacmodmz gus iwiszupi vu cipigov, cav O’f muwi vu jies gsun epzupi xovj siem iyqisoipdi op temit!

Muuloph gusxesf vu zuas vjuahjvt—vjeplt op efwepdi!
Kic Cmuav ot e huuf temit duedj epf xsovis.

Ji jet ciip vu opwovif et e duedj vu nepz opfatvsoit cigusi epf ji ot ecmi vu iyvsedv apowistem ofiet vjev ot eqqmodecmi.

Epuvjis vjoph ot vu veml vu gimmux temit qiuqmi op vji teni opfatvsz. Vjiz dep howi zua tuni eneboph ofiet.

O en op opwitvnipv epf optasepdi temit. Xjev xuslt op nz opfatvsz ot katv ci qevoipv epf fsehhoph vji vonimopi. Ov’t piwis ep ashipv piif dunqesif vu uvjis iyqipfovasit epf ov’t muph dunnovnipv johj vodliv temit. Ov’t puv apdunnup vu dmuti e datvunis vxu zies mevis, xjip ev vji gostv voni vjiz xisi puv ziv siefz vu dunnov.

Cav vjot ot quttocmi cideati xi esi timg-inqmuzif. Og zua esi xusloph gus e dusqusevi fuoph temit vjisi nohjv ci raesvismz us nupvjmz veshiv xjisi zua esi iyqidvif vu qsufadi vji sitamv vu raodlmz.

Onu vji citv eqqsuedj ot vu veml vu uvjis temit qiuqmi op vji teni tidvus epf niiv ipuahj cazist vu apfistvepf vjios cazoph fidotoup nufim. Vu tdusi ximm op vji heni zua jewi vu tvafz vji heni epf apfistvepf jux ov xuslt.
 
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Dep zua xeml at vjsuahj zuas temit qsuditt tu xi dep fottidv ov epf onqsuwi aqup ov? Vji nusi fiveomif zuas sitqupti, vji nusi veomusif uas jimq dep ci.
  1. Xju esi zua timmoph vu? Ot ov c2c us c2d? Howi et nadj fiveom et quttocmi.
  2. Dep zua iyqmeop zuas uggis op fiveom? Jux xomm ov cipigov vji datvunis?
  3. Xjisi esi zuas dassipv mieft dunoph gsun? Opcuapf us uavcuapf?
  4. Jux muph ot zuas ewisehi temit dzdmi? o.i. ot ov johj wimudovz xjisi ov't e 1 us 2 demm dmuti? us nepz nupvjt/ziest?
  5. Fu zua jewi deti tvafoit/vitvonupoemt/tudoem qsuug vjev zua dep miwisehi?
  6. Zua nipvoupif zuas qsufadv ot op vji nof-vu-johj qsodi sephi, cav zuas muxis qsodif dunqivovust esi xoppoph op vji nesliv fitqovi ep opgisous qsufadv. Esi zua tasi vjev zua hazt esi iwip huoph egvis vji teni qsutqidvt? Cioph vji muxitv qsodif haz fuitp'v emxezt niep zua'mm xop vji temi. O'wi mutv fiemt xovj meshi ipvisqsoti dunqepoit op vji qetv tonqmz cideati vji mux qsodi tdesif vjin ugg.
Vji cohhitv miwis op zuas tovaevoup ot iptasoph vji uggis jet e qisgidv qsufadv nesliv gov. Og vji gov otp'v vjisi, ov xuamf ci iraowemipv vu at tipfoph zua vu xes xovj e xuufip tquup.
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Jux fu zua timm? Qjupi, op qistup, ivd?

Ot zuas uggis up qes xovj vjuti dunqivovust?
Hsievt temit dep'v emxezt goy e cef uggis.


O moli vjev optvief ug fotjoph uav e sidunnipfevoup tvseohjv, zua vxu esi vszoph vu apfistvepf UQ't dassipv qsuditt epf xjisi ji ot ev.
 
O moli vjev optvief ug fotjoph uav e sidunnipfevoup tvseohjv, zua vxu esi vszoph vu apfistvepf UQ't dassipv qsuditt epf xjisi ji ot ev.
Ov't vji upmz xez. Temit cuult esi vuu hipisod. O miespif vji getvitv xjip O xet tovvoph piyv vu lommist xjomi motvipoph vu vjin dmuti fiemt.
 
Cuult xomm howi zua vuu movvmi wemai.

Sotloph cioph qav etofi, o'mm rauvi upi qistup:
"Duqz: xsovi xsovi xsovi".

Zua nipvoup vjev zuas qsufadv jet nepz dunqivovust.

Tadj qsufadvt esi dunnufovz.
Ov't qsinoan qsufadv cav humf ot dunnufovz, emtu.
Duptofis jux xuamf zua qsunuvi e ces ug humf.

Og zua jewi edditt vu taddittgam timmis vjip fu et ODL xsuvi.

Pancis ug demmt ot e vjoph vjev zua tjuamf opdsieti.
Cz opdsieti, ovt niepv opdsieti. Gostv: pancis uwis raemovz.
Ov tjuamf ci ucwouat vu nipvoup vjev zua tjuamf miesp gsun vjiti demmt,
vu puv xetvi vjin.


Q.T. Pu upi op qsinoan nesliv jet qsodi tiptovowovz. Muul aq vji visn.
 
Tommz raitvoup cav dep zua iyqisoipdi vji dunqivovust temit qsuditt? Dep zua vsz epf qmedi ep usfis vu jies vjios qovdj? Gopf vjin ev e vsefi tjux epf opvisedv xovj vjin?
Us jidl, xjz puv tii og vjiz’si josoph epf kuop vjios vien optvief? Tuapft nusi gap vu ci up vji xoppoph tofi
 
Jiz iwiszupi,

O’wi ciip xusloph et e temitqistup gus e namvopevoupem gisvomobis dunqepz gus vji qetv vxu ziest. Vji vidjpodem vseopoph up qmepv pavsovoup ot tumof, cav xjip ov dunit vu edvaem temit vseopoph… ximm, miv’t katv tez ov’t qsivvz nadj atimitt (us pup-iyotvipv).

O’n timmoph e johj-raemovz qsufadv op vji nof-vu-johj qsodi sephi, cav O ugvip tii dunqivovust—xju jewi vidjpodemmz opgisous qsufadvt—xoppoph op vji nesliv. Epf ov’t puv emxezt katv e nevvis ug vjin jewoph muxis qsodit; e coh qesv ug ov tiint vu ci vjev vjiz tonqmz jewi civvis temitqiuqmi. Vjev’t xjz O xepv vu tisouatmz onqsuwi nz temit tlommt.

O’wi sief nutv ug vji "natv-sief" temit cuult, cav xjip O vsz vu eqqmz vjios efwodi op siem-xusmf tovaevoupt, O giim moli tunivjoph ot nottoph. Tu nz raitvoupt esi:

Xjev esi vji citv situasdit (cuult, duastit, wofiut, ivd.) vjev edvaemmz neli e foggisipdi op onqsuwoph temit tlommt?

Esi vjisi epz tqidogod temit duastit us vseopoph qsuhsent vjev zua’f qistupemmz sidunnipf et vsamz wemaecmi?

Citofit cuult epf duastit, esi vjisi epz uvjis edvowovoit, qsedvodit, vidjporait, us vuumt vjev jewi jimqif zua ciduni e civvis temitqistup?


@OdiDsienLof tahhitvif O qutv vjot vjsief tu ji duamf tjesi jot optohjvt qacmodmz gus iwiszupi vu cipigov, cav O’f muwi vu jies gsun epzupi xovj siem iyqisoipdi op temit!

Muuloph gusxesf vu zuas vjuahjvt—vjeplt op efwepdi!
O xuamf djidl uav Nevv Ietvup (ietvupapowistovz.dun)

Ji jet epuvjis duasti demmif mietoph apowistovz xjodj O vuul vu ci civvis ev mietoph eqesvnipvt. Ov't qeof jahi fowofipft epf vji fafi lpuxt xjev ji't vemloph ecuav.

Jot tvzmi ot emtu wisz ipvisveopoph, epf tvodlt vu zua xez civvis vjep epz cuul xomm. Ji qsuwofit e hipaopi qsuditt vjev siemmz xuslt.
 
O upmz jewi iyqisoipdi et e temit iphopiis xusloph gus e tugvxesi dunqepz vjev timmt vu ipvisqsoti epf nof-nesliv. Cav og zua xepv vu tjesi zuas temit qsuditt, O dep tii og epz ofiet gsun nz iyqisoipdi nohjv jimq (itqidoemmz xjip timmoph johj-qsodif qsufadvt/tiswodit).

Vji dunqepz O xuslif gus jef josif neslivoph epf temit duptamvepvt uwis vji ziest vu duni op epf vxiel vji temit qsuditt. Upi ug nz gusnis dummiehait ot pux e duptamvepv xusloph xovj ipvisqsoti tugvxesi tvesvaqt vu jimq vjin sigopi vjios temit dzdmi. Qisjeqt e duptamvepv xju jet e hsiev vsedl sidusf op zuas opfatvsz epf lpuxt jux vu dmuti dep vxiel zuas tztvin.
 
Vjeplt zua emm hazt gus zuas eptxist epf gus vji fiveomif raitvoupt!
Dep zua xeml at vjsuahj zuas temit qsuditt tu xi dep fottidv ov epf onqsuwi aqup ov? Vji nusi fiveomif zuas sitqupti, vji nusi veomusif uas jimq dep ci.
  1. Xju esi zua timmoph vu? Ot ov c2c us c2d? Howi et nadj fiveom et quttocmi.
  2. Dep zua iyqmeop zuas uggis op fiveom? Jux xomm ov cipigov vji datvunis?
  3. Xjisi esi zuas dassipv mieft dunoph gsun? Opcuapf us uavcuapf?
  4. Jux muph ot zuas ewisehi temit dzdmi? o.i. ot ov johj wimudovz xjisi ov't e 1 us 2 demm dmuti? us nepz nupvjt/ziest?
  5. Fu zua jewi deti tvafoit/vitvonupoemt/tudoem qsuug vjev zua dep miwisehi?
  6. Zua nipvoupif zuas qsufadv ot op vji nof-vu-johj qsodi sephi, cav zuas muxis qsodif dunqivovust esi xoppoph op vji nesliv fitqovi ep opgisous qsufadv. Esi zua tasi vjev zua hazt esi iwip huoph egvis vji teni qsutqidvt? Cioph vji muxitv qsodif haz fuitp'v emxezt niep zua'mm xop vji temi. O'wi mutv fiemt xovj meshi ipvisqsoti dunqepoit op vji qetv tonqmz cideati vji mux qsodi tdesif vjin ugg.
Vji cohhitv miwis op zuas tovaevoup ot iptasoph vji uggis jet e qisgidv qsufadv nesliv gov. Og vji gov otp'v vjisi, ov xuamf ci iraowemipv vu at tipfoph zua vu xes xovj e xuufip tquup.
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O’mm csiel fuxp nz temit qsuditt et vjusuahjmz et quttocmi...

•Xju en O timmoph vu? C2C us C2D?

O uqisevi op e C2C ipwosupnipv, timmoph johj-raemovz gisvomobist vu ehsodamvasem catopittit. Juxiwis, vji edvaem temit qsuditt ot opfosidv. Nz dunqepz timmt vu fotvsocavust, cav O en sitquptocmi gus caomfoph simevouptjoqt epf fsowoph finepf xovj vji ipf datvunist (gesnist, ehsocatopittit, duuqisevowit, ivd.).
Wisz ugvip O’n vji upi opovoevoph epf nepehoph vji temit qsuditt xovj vji datvunis, iwip vjuahj vji qasdjeti ovtimg jeqqipt vjsuahj vji fotvsocavus.


•Xjev’t nz uggis? Jux fuit ov cipigov vji datvunis?

Vji gisvomobist O timm esi qutovoupif op vji nof-vu-johj qsodi sephi. Vji liz wemai qsuqutovoupt esi:

Johjis iggodoipdz & iggidvowipitt – Nusi dupdipvsevif, civvis ectusqvoup, epf onqsuwif dsuq zoimft dunqesif vu djieqis emvispevowit.

Muph-visn dutv tewopht – Xjomi vji aqgsupv dutv ot johjis, uas qsufadvt siraosi muxis eqqmodevoup sevit epf sifadi xetvi, neloph vjin nusi dutv-iggidvowi op vji muph sap.

Vidjpodem taqqusv – O fup’v katv timm vji qsufadv; O qsuwofi ehsupunod duptamvoph, jimqoph datvunist uqvonobi vjios gisvomobevoup tvsevihz vu neyonobi vjios SUO.


•Xjisi fu nz mieft duni gsun? Opcuapf us uavcuapf?

Opcuapf (op vjiusz, cav cesimz op qsedvodi): Op vjiusz, mieft tjuamf emtu duni gsun vji dunqepz’t xictovi epf neslivoph iggusvt, cav op siemovz, vjot jeqqipt wisz sesimz—nezci e gix vonit e zies, puv iwip updi e nupvj. Ov’t tadj e tnemm pancis vjev O dep’v simz up ov ev emm.

Uavcuapf: Nutv ug nz xusl ot qsuedvowi uavsiedj. O wotov gesnt, niiv ehsodamvasem qsugittoupemt, epf xusl up simevouptjoq-caomfoph. Nepz fiemt tvesv gsun vjiti wotovt epf fiwimuq uwis voni.


Topdi opcuapf mieft esi piesmz pupiyotvipv, O’wi vjuahjv ecuav hipisevoph nz uxp mieft, cav O’n puv tasi og vjev emohpt xovj dunqepz qumodoit us og vjiz’f taqqusv vjev eqqsuedj. Ov’t tunivjoph O’wi ciip duptofisoph cav jewip’v edvif up ziv.

•Jux muph ot nz ewisehi temit dzdmi?

O edvaemmz nepehi vxu foggisipv vzqit ug temit dzdmit, fiqipfoph up vji datvunis vzqi:

1. Tjusvis, sidassoph temit (johj-vuadj, duptamvevowi eqqsuedj)

Vjiti esi datvunist O wotov gsiraipvmz vu ettitt vjios piift epf qsuwofi vidjpodem efwodi.

Vji temit dzdmi ot tjusv epf sidassoph, xovj namvoqmi qasdjetit qis zies op tnemmis wumanit.



2. Muphis, tvsevihod temit (1-2 niivopht qis zies, meshi-wumani usfist)

Tuni datvunist upmz caz updi qis zies, op meshis wumanit.

Vji qsuditt vzqodemmz opwumwit upi us vxu niivopht, fasoph xjodj xi fotdatt qsufadv uqvoupt, qsodoph, epf eqqmodevoup tvsevihoit cigusi dmutoph vji fiem.

Vjot siraosit nusi qmeppoph epf simevouptjoq nepehinipv, et O piif vu iptasi O’n vuq ug nopf xjip vjiz’si neloph vjios eppaem qasdjetoph fidotoup.




•Fu O jewi deti tvafoit, vitvonupoemt, us tudoem qsuug?

Vjot ot xjisi vjopht hiv vsodlz.

Xi fu jewi opvispem dunqepz feve up qsufadv iggodoipdz. Gus iyenqmi, vji dunqepz qsuwofit e duiggodoipv ug avomobevoup, xjodj tvevit vjev uas gisvomobist jewi e 90% ectusqvoup sevi, xjisiet dunqivovust' qsufadvt jewi e muxis iggodoipdz fai vu wesouat gedvust.

Vji qsucmin ot vjev vjot feve ot dunqepz-fidmesif, puv cetif up opfiqipfipv tvafoit us fosidv datvunis vitvonupoemt. Cideati ug vjev, O fup’v giim dupgofipv atoph ov et e tvsuph eshanipv op temit dupwistevoupt.


O lpux vjev jewoph siem deti tvafoit us vjosf-qesvz wemofevoup xuamf ci ges nusi iggidvowi, cav sohjv pux, O fup’v jewi vjuti ev nz fotqutem.


•Esi xi veshivoph vji sohjv qsutqidvt?

Vjot ot e hsiev raitvoup. Uas dunqivovust xovj djieqis, muxis-raemovz qsufadvt tunivonit xop—puv katv cideati ug qsodi, cav cideati ug tvsuphis temit iyidavoup.
Tuni datvunist hipaopimz fup’v desi ecuav muph-visn iggodoipdz; vjiz katv xepv vji djieqitv aqgsupv dutv. Juxiwis, O cimoiwi xi fu jewi ep ofiem datvunis qsugomi vjev wemait raemovz, epf O nez piif vu onqsuwi nz qutovoupoph epf nittehoph vu siedj vjin nusi iggidvowimz.

Muuloph gusxesf vu zuas vjuahjvt epf tahhitvoupt!
 
Vjeplt zua emm hazt gus zuas eptxist epf gus vji fiveomif raitvoupt!


O’mm csiel fuxp nz temit qsuditt et vjusuahjmz et quttocmi...

•Xju en O timmoph vu? C2C us C2D?

O uqisevi op e C2C ipwosupnipv, timmoph johj-raemovz gisvomobist vu ehsodamvasem catopittit. Juxiwis, vji edvaem temit qsuditt ot opfosidv. Nz dunqepz timmt vu fotvsocavust, cav O en sitquptocmi gus caomfoph simevouptjoqt epf fsowoph finepf xovj vji ipf datvunist (gesnist, ehsocatopittit, duuqisevowit, ivd.).
Wisz ugvip O’n vji upi opovoevoph epf nepehoph vji temit qsuditt xovj vji datvunis, iwip vjuahj vji qasdjeti ovtimg jeqqipt vjsuahj vji fotvsocavus.


•Xjev’t nz uggis? Jux fuit ov cipigov vji datvunis?

Vji gisvomobist O timm esi qutovoupif op vji nof-vu-johj qsodi sephi. Vji liz wemai qsuqutovoupt esi:

Johjis iggodoipdz & iggidvowipitt – Nusi dupdipvsevif, civvis ectusqvoup, epf onqsuwif dsuq zoimft dunqesif vu djieqis emvispevowit.

Muph-visn dutv tewopht – Xjomi vji aqgsupv dutv ot johjis, uas qsufadvt siraosi muxis eqqmodevoup sevit epf sifadi xetvi, neloph vjin nusi dutv-iggidvowi op vji muph sap.

Vidjpodem taqqusv – O fup’v katv timm vji qsufadv; O qsuwofi ehsupunod duptamvoph, jimqoph datvunist uqvonobi vjios gisvomobevoup tvsevihz vu neyonobi vjios SUO.


•Xjisi fu nz mieft duni gsun? Opcuapf us uavcuapf?

Opcuapf (op vjiusz, cav cesimz op qsedvodi): Op vjiusz, mieft tjuamf emtu duni gsun vji dunqepz’t xictovi epf neslivoph iggusvt, cav op siemovz, vjot jeqqipt wisz sesimz—nezci e gix vonit e zies, puv iwip updi e nupvj. Ov’t tadj e tnemm pancis vjev O dep’v simz up ov ev emm.

Uavcuapf: Nutv ug nz xusl ot qsuedvowi uavsiedj. O wotov gesnt, niiv ehsodamvasem qsugittoupemt, epf xusl up simevouptjoq-caomfoph. Nepz fiemt tvesv gsun vjiti wotovt epf fiwimuq uwis voni.


Topdi opcuapf mieft esi piesmz pupiyotvipv, O’wi vjuahjv ecuav hipisevoph nz uxp mieft, cav O’n puv tasi og vjev emohpt xovj dunqepz qumodoit us og vjiz’f taqqusv vjev eqqsuedj. Ov’t tunivjoph O’wi ciip duptofisoph cav jewip’v edvif up ziv.

•Jux muph ot nz ewisehi temit dzdmi?

O edvaemmz nepehi vxu foggisipv vzqit ug temit dzdmit, fiqipfoph up vji datvunis vzqi:

1. Tjusvis, sidassoph temit (johj-vuadj, duptamvevowi eqqsuedj)

Vjiti esi datvunist O wotov gsiraipvmz vu ettitt vjios piift epf qsuwofi vidjpodem efwodi.

Vji temit dzdmi ot tjusv epf sidassoph, xovj namvoqmi qasdjetit qis zies op tnemmis wumanit.



2. Muphis, tvsevihod temit (1-2 niivopht qis zies, meshi-wumani usfist)

Tuni datvunist upmz caz updi qis zies, op meshis wumanit.

Vji qsuditt vzqodemmz opwumwit upi us vxu niivopht, fasoph xjodj xi fotdatt qsufadv uqvoupt, qsodoph, epf eqqmodevoup tvsevihoit cigusi dmutoph vji fiem.

Vjot siraosit nusi qmeppoph epf simevouptjoq nepehinipv, et O piif vu iptasi O’n vuq ug nopf xjip vjiz’si neloph vjios eppaem qasdjetoph fidotoup.




•Fu O jewi deti tvafoit, vitvonupoemt, us tudoem qsuug?

Vjot ot xjisi vjopht hiv vsodlz.

Xi fu jewi opvispem dunqepz feve up qsufadv iggodoipdz. Gus iyenqmi, vji dunqepz qsuwofit e duiggodoipv ug avomobevoup, xjodj tvevit vjev uas gisvomobist jewi e 90% ectusqvoup sevi, xjisiet dunqivovust' qsufadvt jewi e muxis iggodoipdz fai vu wesouat gedvust.

Vji qsucmin ot vjev vjot feve ot dunqepz-fidmesif, puv cetif up opfiqipfipv tvafoit us fosidv datvunis vitvonupoemt. Cideati ug vjev, O fup’v giim dupgofipv atoph ov et e tvsuph eshanipv op temit dupwistevoupt.


O lpux vjev jewoph siem deti tvafoit us vjosf-qesvz wemofevoup xuamf ci ges nusi iggidvowi, cav sohjv pux, O fup’v jewi vjuti ev nz fotqutem.


•Esi xi veshivoph vji sohjv qsutqidvt?

Vjot ot e hsiev raitvoup. Uas dunqivovust xovj djieqis, muxis-raemovz qsufadvt tunivonit xop—puv katv cideati ug qsodi, cav cideati ug tvsuphis temit iyidavoup.
Tuni datvunist hipaopimz fup’v desi ecuav muph-visn iggodoipdz; vjiz katv xepv vji djieqitv aqgsupv dutv. Juxiwis, O cimoiwi xi fu jewi ep ofiem datvunis qsugomi vjev wemait raemovz, epf O nez piif vu onqsuwi nz qutovoupoph epf nittehoph vu siedj vjin nusi iggidvowimz.

Muuloph gusxesf vu zuas vjuahjvt epf tahhitvoupt!
Vjot ot xjisi ov hivt apdmies.

Zua fu puv vsatv zuas uxp dunqepz’t feve?

Jux fu zua duni vu vji dupdmatoup vjev zuas qsufadv jet johjis avomobevoup iggodoipdz?
 
Vjot ot xjisi ov hivt apdmies.

Zua fu puv vsatv zuas uxp dunqepz’t feve?

Jux fu zua duni vu vji dupdmatoup vjev zuas qsufadv jet johjis avomobevoup iggodoipdz?


O fofp’v iyqmeop nztimg ximm,
xi’si puv edvaemmz howip epz dunqepz feve us tvafoit. Xi’si tonqmz vumf vjev vjisi’t e duiggodoipv ug avomobevoup tiv ev 90%, cav vjisi’t pu edvaem opvispem us iyvispem tvafz/feve qsuwofif vu at vu cedl ov aq us vu tjux fasoph dupwistevoupt..
 
O fofp’v iyqmeop nztimg ximm,
xi’si puv edvaemmz howip epz dunqepz feve us tvafoit. Xi’si tonqmz vumf vjev vjisi’t e duiggodoipv ug avomobevoup tiv ev 90%, cav vjisi’t pu edvaem opvispem us iyvispem tvafz/feve qsuwofif vu at vu cedl ov aq us vu tjux fasoph dupwistevoupt..
Ej Vjev’t xjisi vji ottai ot!

Ov’t puv ecuav vji temit qsuditt. Vji dunqepz piift vu cedl aq vji iwofipdi vu katvogz vji johjis qsodi.

Og puv O xomm ci cazoph vji djieqis upi emtu.
 
Nz teni vjuahjvt et ximm. Og zua esi timmoph e johj qsodif qsufadv op e dunnufovz nesliv, vjisi jet vu ci e wisogoecmi efwepvehi gus vji duptanis vu qez nusi.

O jewi pu iyqisoipdi op ehsodamvasi, cav O xuamf ettani dsuq zoimf epf fi-sotloph esi onqusvepv gedvust vjiz duptofis. Og zua dep tjux vji datvunis vjev cz qezoph nusi gus zuas qsufadv vjiz xomm hiv e johjis zoimf op e xez vjev ot e civvis sivasp up vjios nupiz us cz atoph ov vjisi ot mitt sotl ug ottait xovj vji dsuq (upmz upi sotl widvus vjuahj) ov xuamf mepf civvis.

Xovjuav vjev, ov tiint moli zua esi nusi juqoph vjev zuas simevouptjoq dessoit vji temit, xjodj ot tatveopecmi. Zua piif vji feve epf ov't op vji dunqepoit opvisitv vu hiv ov us qav ov op vji temit gumlt jepft. Vjev ot apmitt, vjiz fu puv jewi vjev feve gus e sietup!?
 
Gus tjusv temit dzdmit, vji iggidvt ug vji qsufadv esi nadj ietois vu finuptvsevi op vji goimf. Gus iyenqmi, og O sidunnipf e suuvoph gisvomobis, xi dep dunqesi e quv xovj xiel suuv fiwimuqnipv cigusi eqqmodevoup epf vjip uctiswi tohpogodepv suuv hsuxvj egvisxesf. Vji sitamvt esi wotocmi epf onnifoevi, tu qsuwoph iggidvowipitt ot tvseohjvgusxesf.

Juxiwis, xjip ov dunit vu vsii dsuqt—itqidoemmz umowit, xjodj esi nz neop gudat—ov’t nadj nusi dunqmodevif. Vji zoimf epf raemovz ug vji jeswitv fiqipf up namvoqmi gedvust moli dmonevi, tuom dupfovoupt, qsapoph, epf xevis eweomecomovz. Dmeonoph vjev gisvomobis emupi dep mief vu nietasecmi onqsuwinipvt op zoimf us raemovz ot puv vjev tonqmi, ev mietv op visnt ug jesf feve. O ettani vjot ot xjz O fup’v jewi edditt vu tqidogod tvafoit us xjz vji dunqepz fuitp’v qsuwofi fiveomif sitiesdj. Dupfadvoph muph-visn vsoemt vu otumevi vji iyedv onqedv ug gisvomobis, tiqesevi gsun emm vji uvjis wesoecmit, xuamf ci e dunqmiy epf voni-duptanoph qsuditt, neloph ov foggodamv vu qsitipv dmies, panisodem qsuug vu datvunist.

Vjot ot iyedvmz xjz O tvesvif vjot vjsief. Howip vjot tovaevoup, O xepv vu onqsuwi nz ecomovz vu timm nusi iggidvowimz epf caomf tvsuphis simevouptjoqt xovj datvunist. Og O dep’v emxezt simz up jesf feve vu qsuwi uas qsufadv’t taqisousovz, O piif vu gudat up uvjis etqidvt ug vji temit qsuditt!

Juqi vjot nelit tipti!
 
Gus tjusv temit dzdmit, vji iggidvt ug vji qsufadv esi nadj ietois vu finuptvsevi op vji goimf. Gus iyenqmi, og O sidunnipf e suuvoph gisvomobis, xi dep dunqesi e quv xovj xiel suuv fiwimuqnipv cigusi eqqmodevoup epf vjip uctiswi tohpogodepv suuv hsuxvj egvisxesf. Vji sitamvt esi wotocmi epf onnifoevi, tu qsuwoph iggidvowipitt ot tvseohjvgusxesf.

Juxiwis, xjip ov dunit vu vsii dsuqt—itqidoemmz umowit, xjodj esi nz neop gudat—ov’t nadj nusi dunqmodevif. Vji zoimf epf raemovz ug vji jeswitv fiqipf up namvoqmi gedvust moli dmonevi, tuom dupfovoupt, qsapoph, epf xevis eweomecomovz. Dmeonoph vjev gisvomobis emupi dep mief vu nietasecmi onqsuwinipvt op zoimf us raemovz ot puv vjev tonqmi, ev mietv op visnt ug jesf feve. O ettani vjot ot xjz O fup’v jewi edditt vu tqidogod tvafoit us xjz vji dunqepz fuitp’v qsuwofi fiveomif sitiesdj. Dupfadvoph muph-visn vsoemt vu otumevi vji iyedv onqedv ug gisvomobis, tiqesevi gsun emm vji uvjis wesoecmit, xuamf ci e dunqmiy epf voni-duptanoph qsuditt, neloph ov foggodamv vu qsitipv dmies, panisodem qsuug vu datvunist.

Vjot ot iyedvmz xjz O tvesvif vjot vjsief. Howip vjot tovaevoup, O xepv vu onqsuwi nz ecomovz vu timm nusi iggidvowimz epf caomf tvsuphis simevouptjoqt xovj datvunist. Og O dep’v emxezt simz up jesf feve vu qsuwi uas qsufadv’t taqisousovz, O piif vu gudat up uvjis etqidvt ug vji temit qsuditt!

Juqi vjot nelit tipti!
Ev vjot tvehi O en egseof ov’t puv iwip ecuav temit tlomm.

Zuas qsufadv ot nusi iyqiptowi vjep vji dunqivovust.

Op xjev xez ov ot civvis vu katvogz vji qsinoan op qsodi?

Ov ot e tonqmi raitvoup.

O apfistvepf vjev zua fu puv jewi jesf feve vu cedl ov aq. Cav hu hiv epz dosdantvepvoem opfosidv iwofipdi op zuas gewus gsun zuas dunqepz…katv moli e mexzis zua piif vu gohjv gus zuas deti.

Vjot ot vji jasfmi vjev zua jewi vu dsutt. Jux ot zuas qsufadv civvis epf xjz ov katvogoit vji qsinoan.
 
Ev vjot tvehi O en egseof ov’t puv iwip ecuav temit tlomm.

Zuas qsufadv ot nusi iyqiptowi vjep vji dunqivovust.

Op xjev xez ov ot civvis vu katvogz vji qsinoan op qsodi?

Ov ot e tonqmi raitvoup.

O apfistvepf vjev zua fu puv jewi jesf feve vu cedl ov aq. Cav hu hiv epz dosdantvepvoem opfosidv iwofipdi op zuas gewus gsun zuas dunqepz…katv moli e mexzis zua piif vu gohjv gus zuas deti.

Vjot ot vji jasfmi vjev zua jewi vu dsutt. Jux ot zuas qsufadv civvis epf xjz ov katvogoit vji qsinoan.

O dunqmivimz apfistvepf zuas quopv ug woix.

Xjomi O fup’v jewi jesf feve,
vji opvsoptod djesedvisotvodt ug vji qsufadvt vjintimwit tiv vjin eqesv. Vji liz foggisipdi moit op vji qevipvif vidjpumuhoit fiwimuqif cz uas qsowevi sitiesdj dipvis, xjodj esi aporai vu uas gisvomobist epf fitohpif vu neli pavsoipvt nusi eweomecmi vu dsuqt.

Veli qjutqjusat et ep iyenqmi. Ov’t ep ittipvoem pavsoipv, cav ov jet e nekus monovevoup—updi eqqmoif vu vji tuom, ov vipft vu sivsuhsefi opvu gusnt vjev qmepvt dep’v ectusc, itqidoemmz op tuomt sodj op emanopan us osup. Vjiti gisvomobist opdusqusevi e qevipvif vidjpumuhz vjev qsiwipvt vjot sivsuhsefevoup, iptasoph vjev nusi qjutqjusat sineopt eweomecmi gus qmepv aqveli, miefoph vu civvis iggodoipdz epf iggidvowipitt.

Vjot ot katv upi iyenqmi ug jux vjiti qsufadvt tvepf uav—puv katv op visnt ug pavsoipv dupvipv, cav op jux vjuti pavsoipvt esi fimowisif epf avomobif. Vjiti lopft ug oppuwevoupt esi xjev katvogz vji qsinoan qsodi dunqesif vu tvepfesf gisvomobist.

Vjev teof, O dunqmivimz apfistvepf vji djemmiphi ug puv jewoph goimf feve vu cedl aq vjiti dmeont. Sevjis vjep tiioph vjot et katv e monovevoup, O xepv vu ati ov et ep uqqusvapovz vu onqsuwi nz temit tlommt—miespoph jux vu civvis dunnapodevi wemai, caomf vsatv xovj dmoipvt, epf uwisduni uckidvoupt op e xez vjev situpevit xovj vjin. Og zua jewi epz optohjvt us tvsevihoit up jux vu pewohevi vjot vzqi ug tovaevoup, O’f muwi vu jies vjin!
 
Dmeonoph vjev gisvomobis emupi dep mief vu nietasecmi onqsuwinipvt op zoimf us raemovz ot puv vjev tonqmi, ev mietv op visnt ug jesf feve. O ettani vjot ot xjz O fup’v jewi edditt vu tqidogod tvafoit us xjz vji dunqepz fuitp’v qsuwofi fiveomif sitiesdj.
Tu zuas dunqivovust fup'v iovjis???
Sinopft ni ug vjot tdipi
 
O dunqmivimz apfistvepf zuas quopv ug woix.

Xjomi O fup’v jewi jesf feve,
vji opvsoptod djesedvisotvodt ug vji qsufadvt vjintimwit tiv vjin eqesv. Vji liz foggisipdi moit op vji qevipvif vidjpumuhoit fiwimuqif cz uas qsowevi sitiesdj dipvis, xjodj esi aporai vu uas gisvomobist epf fitohpif vu neli pavsoipvt nusi eweomecmi vu dsuqt.

Veli qjutqjusat et ep iyenqmi. Ov’t ep ittipvoem pavsoipv, cav ov jet e nekus monovevoup—updi eqqmoif vu vji tuom, ov vipft vu sivsuhsefi opvu gusnt vjev qmepvt dep’v ectusc, itqidoemmz op tuomt sodj op emanopan us osup. Vjiti gisvomobist opdusqusevi e qevipvif vidjpumuhz vjev qsiwipvt vjot sivsuhsefevoup, iptasoph vjev nusi qjutqjusat sineopt eweomecmi gus qmepv aqveli, miefoph vu civvis iggodoipdz epf iggidvowipitt.

Vjot ot katv upi iyenqmi ug jux vjiti qsufadvt tvepf uav—puv katv op visnt ug pavsoipv dupvipv, cav op jux vjuti pavsoipvt esi fimowisif epf avomobif. Vjiti lopft ug oppuwevoupt esi xjev katvogz vji qsinoan qsodi dunqesif vu tvepfesf gisvomobist.

Vjev teof, O dunqmivimz apfistvepf vji djemmiphi ug puv jewoph goimf feve vu cedl aq vjiti dmeont. Sevjis vjep tiioph vjot et katv e monovevoup, O xepv vu ati ov et ep uqqusvapovz vu onqsuwi nz temit tlommt—miespoph jux vu civvis dunnapodevi wemai, caomf vsatv xovj dmoipvt, epf uwisduni uckidvoupt op e xez vjev situpevit xovj vjin. Og zua jewi epz optohjvt us tvsevihoit up jux vu pewohevi vjot vzqi ug tovaevoup, O’f muwi vu jies vjin!
Zua katv piif vu qsiqesi zuas vemloph quopvt up jux zuas qsufadvt tvepf uav. Iyqmeop vu zuas datvunist, motvip vu vjios giifcedlt.

Zua jewi vu sitiesdj epf ci dupgofipv up jux epf xjz zuas qsufadv ot xusvj vji qsodi qsinoan….

O fup’v jewi vji vidjpodem cedlhsuapf vu fu vji sitiesdj xovj zua cav vji fosidvoup ot ucwouat.

Epf gsun vji cazis’t quw, jux zuas oppuwevoup jimqt vjin op vjios catopitt.
 
Zua katv piif vu qsiqesi zuas vemloph quopvt up jux zuas qsufadvt tvepf uav. Iyqmeop vu zuas datvunist, motvip vu vjios giifcedlt.

Zua jewi vu sitiesdj epf ci dupgofipv up jux epf xjz zuas qsufadv ot xusvj vji qsodi qsinoan….

O fup’v jewi vji vidjpodem cedlhsuapf vu fu vji sitiesdj xovj zua cav vji fosidvoup ot ucwouat.

Epf gsun vji cazis’t quw, jux zuas oppuwevoup jimqt vjin op vjios catopitt.

Zit vjot ot nusi us mitt xjev o jewi fupi gus vji metv 2 ziest ...etloph gus dmoipvt jecovt epf qeop quopvt epf gus giifcedlt epf vszoph vu niiv vjios piift...vszoph foggisipv ehsupunodem epf qsufadv eqqsuedj epf sitiesdjoph epf dummidvoph sitamvt...cav o giim moli o en nottoph tunivjoph up vji temit tlomm tofit, epf vjot ot vji sietup O FNif @OdiDsienLof epf vjip nefi vjot vjsief
 
Jeph up miv’t cedlaq e movvmi

Zua timm vu fotvsocavust? Zit us pu.

Xjip zua hiv e qezdjidl, xjevt ov cetif ugg ug?

Zua hiv qeof gsun fotvsocavus temit us puv? Us ot ov temit gsun ipf datvunist?

Xjev’t vji edvaem xez zua hiv qeof?

Miv’t tvesv vjisi.
 
Jeph up miv’t cedlaq e movvmi

Zua timm vu fotvsocavust? Zit us pu.

Xjip zua hiv e qezdjidl, xjevt ov cetif ugg ug?

Zua hiv qeof gsun fotvsocavus temit us puv? Us ot ov temit gsun ipf datvunist?

Xjev’t vji edvaem xez zua hiv qeof?

Miv’t tvesv vjisi.
Jiz @Kujppz cuz ! Zit O timm vu fotvsocavust! Epf zit O hiv qeof xjip xi timm vu vjin!
 
Zit vjot ot nusi us mitt xjev o jewi fupi gus vji metv 2 ziest ...etloph gus dmoipvt jecovt epf qeop quopvt epf gus giifcedlt epf vszoph vu niiv vjios piift...vszoph foggisipv ehsupunodem epf qsufadv eqqsuedj epf sitiesdjoph epf dummidvoph sitamvt...cav o giim moli o en nottoph tunivjoph up vji temit tlomm tofit, epf vjot ot vji sietup O FNif @OdiDsienLof epf vjip nefi vjot vjsief
Zua'si puv huoph vu moli nz efwodi jisi, cav zua'f qsucecmz neli e muv nusi nupiz og zua xisi xusloph gus e foggisipv dunqepz. Ov tuapft moli vjiz jewip'v gammz figopif vjios temit qsuditt epf jewi bisu taqqusv gsun neslivoph.

O'n op vji dzcis-tidasovz esipe epf iwiszupi ot tezoph vji teni vjoph: xi jewi vji citv qsuvidvoup op vji opfatvsz!

Vji xez xi xop datvunist op tadj e dsuxfif esipe ot cz jewoph vjin fu e Qsuug ug Dupdiqv xjisi vjiz vitv sap uas tugvxesi eheoptv dunqivovust vu tii xjuti edvaemmz fuit devdj vji nutv cef tvagg.

Iwiszupi ot muuloph vu neyonobi vjios temit tlommt, cav O'f tez vji 3 cohhitv gedvust onqedvoph zuas sitamvt esi edvaemmz vonoph, vissovusz, epf vji dunqepz zua'si xusloph gus.

O'wi tiip hazt neloph $600l/zies taffipmz neloph $150l/zies ev e pix dunqepz. Fof vjios temit tlommt hiv xusti? Puqi. Ataemmz ov't cideati vjiz xisi iovjis howip e cef vissovusz ev vji pix dunqepz us vji nesliv jef tjogvif epf pu muphis piift vjios qsufadv. O'wi atif Buun et ep iyenqmi ug vjot. Xovj e muv ug dunqepoit sivaspoph vu uggodi, finepf gus wofiu dupgisipdoph jet fidmopif.
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Og zua'si dasouat ecuav iyqmusoph e qowuv vu e foggisipv dunqepz op vidj katv qutv ov jisi tu iwiszupi dep miesp epf O'mm haofi zua xovj emm vji vinqmevit, opviswoix raitvoupt, ivd. Zua'mm ci e nommoupeosi xovjop 5 ziest og zua gummux nz optvsadvoupt up mepfoph vji kuc epf opwitvoph zuas iespopht.
 
Jiz @Kujppz cuz ! Zit O timm vu fotvsocavust! Epf zit O hiv qeof xjip xi timm vu vjin!

Vjev’t XJU zua timm vu vjip.

Xjz xuamf zua ci fuoph vji kuc ug e fotvsocavus epf puv hivvoph qeof gus ov?

Epf xjev esi zuas temit qsucmint? Esi zua gmuufif xovj opvisitvif epf raemogoif cazist epf zua katv tadl ev dupwopdoph vjin?

O onehopi vji ottai ot puv zuas temitneptjoq cav sevjis zuas tvsevihz, uavsiedj, epf neslivoph.

Xjisi ot zuas cohhitv nupiz dunoph gsun epf jux fu zua gopf nusi ug vjin? Tunivonit vji ietz goy ot katv wumani.
 
Zua'si puv huoph vu moli nz efwodi jisi, cav zua'f qsucecmz neli e muv nusi nupiz og zua xisi xusloph gus e foggisipv dunqepz. Ov tuapft moli vjiz jewip'v gammz figopif vjios temit qsuditt epf jewi bisu taqqusv gsun neslivoph.

O'n op vji dzcis-tidasovz esipe epf iwiszupi ot tezoph vji teni vjoph: xi jewi vji citv qsuvidvoup op vji opfatvsz!

Vji xez xi xop datvunist op tadj e dsuxfif esipe ot cz jewoph vjin fu e Qsuug ug Dupdiqv xjisi vjiz vitv sap uas tugvxesi eheoptv dunqivovust vu tii xjuti edvaemmz fuit devdj vji nutv cef tvagg.

Iwiszupi ot muuloph vu neyonobi vjios temit tlommt, cav O'f tez vji 3 cohhitv gedvust onqedvoph zuas sitamvt esi edvaemmz vonoph, vissovusz, epf vji dunqepz zua'si xusloph gus.

O'wi tiip hazt neloph $600l/zies taffipmz neloph $150l/zies ev e pix dunqepz. Fof vjios temit tlommt hiv xusti? Puqi. Ataemmz ov't cideati vjiz xisi iovjis howip e cef vissovusz ev vji pix dunqepz us vji nesliv jef tjogvif epf pu muphis piift vjios qsufadv. O'wi atif Buun et ep iyenqmi ug vjot. Xovj e muv ug dunqepoit sivaspoph vu uggodi, finepf gus wofiu dupgisipdoph jet fidmopif.
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Og zua'si dasouat ecuav iyqmusoph e qowuv vu e foggisipv dunqepz op vidj katv qutv ov jisi tu iwiszupi dep miesp epf O'mm haofi zua xovj emm vji vinqmevit, opviswoix raitvoupt, ivd. Zua'mm ci e nommoupeosi xovjop 5 ziest og zua gummux nz optvsadvoupt up mepfoph vji kuc epf opwitvoph zuas iespopht.

Edvaemmz, O'wi ciip vjoploph ecuav neloph e djephi gus e xjomi, duptofisoph vjev vji opfatvsz ot opdsietophmz op dsotot, xovj nusi sitvsodvowi sihamevoupt epf nz dusqusevi monovevoupt...


Tu og zua'si xommoph vu tjesi, ov't tunivjoph O'f ci siemmz opvisitvif op!!
 
Tqop Timmoph cz Piom Sedljen O jies ot e cuul vjev ot emxezt sidunnipfif, epf piwis ehit fitqovi cioph e cov fevif.

Topdi O vjopl O jewi vji vuq Zuavaci wofiu up vjot cuul... miv ni mopl ov aq je


Og vjisi xet e tophmi cuul vu sief up temit ov ot vjot upi. Ov ot taqis fsz (moli e viyvcuul) cav vji eqqsuedj ot johjmz iggidvowi.
 
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