Startup Bro's Importing JumpStart Group

[Tonya Daily]

Also want to mention that it's very common to give away free stuff to get people to show up to webinars. No different than serving lunch in corporate business meetings to get busy people to show up. Webinars are more believable and worth the time of the host when enough people show up to ask questions. Bottom line is those guys know what they are talking about, they are not ripping anyone off, and they are providing a great service for a lot of people. If someone who has actually watched their videos and taken their group coaching program has a legit complaint, then that would be worth reading. There are so many extremely successful entrepreneurs doing podcasts and webinars doing the exact same thing. They are millionaires, some even show their income reports, and they have hundreds of hours of free podcasts and also charge for coaching. Marie Forleo, Pat Flynn, Ramit Sethi, Mixergy, and the list goes on and on. Why would any of those extremely successful people do free podcasts and also charge a few thousand for coaching? It's their prerogative and seems to be the standard. Yet all the info they give out can be found online for anyone who wants to spend a year or two digging to learn everything they have already gathered to present. Busy people appreciate these successful people taking the time to get an insane amount of information gathered for us in one place to learn from. There is no reason to question StartupBros based on what was posted in this thread.

Jordan Malic approves of them. Apparently Malic is well respected and a good source. See him introduce them on this informative presentation.

 

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[Walter Hay]

I watched the webinar. I had already read your book Walter a couple times prior and it covered a lot of the same things. I found myself going back to look things up in your book often . Very helpful.

Sorry I didn't reply until I got an alert about Tonya's post.

Yes there are a lot of areas that of necessity cover the same ground, but there are some differences that are substantial, particularly in relation to safe sourcing and also the actual process of importing. I substantially disagree with some of their advice in both areas.

Walter

 

[Ron Dee]

@WalterHay I should have been clear. Yes they covered similar topics in your book but I felt your book went more in depth and also brought up specfic issues you could run into rather than just find a product and it will be smooth sailing.

 

[Tonya Daily]

@WalterHay I should have been clear. Yes they covered similar topics in your book but I felt your book went more in depth and also brought up specfic issues you could run into rather than just find a product and it will be smooth sailing.

Ron, did you sign up for their 12 week program or just watch a webinar? Maybe they go into the exact same detail and answer the same questions in that 12 weeks. Walter's name was brought up in one of the webinars so my guess is the StartupBros are aware of the same issues. They can only cover so much on the webinars, but they seem very thorough to me.

I googled Walter's name and found a site that gave a link that's been suspended. Is there a good link, or is this fastlane forum a good place to learn from Walter?

 

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[Tonya Daily]

Sorry I didn't reply until I got an alert about Tonya's post.

Yes there are a lot of areas that of necessity cover the same ground, but there are some differences that are substantial, particularly in relation to safe sourcing and also the actual process of importing. I substantially disagree with some of their advice in both areas.

Walter

Walter, if you have a minute can you expand on your comment and does your view come from knowing what's in the StartupBros course or only from what you saw on a webinar which is just the overview of what they teach? I think you can help a lot of people who will see this thread.

If anyone wants to hear Will from StartupBros literally say they do NOT do the work for people because they are helping people become entrepreneurs, not Internet marketers. just watch this very extensive and informative webinar from April 2015...around the 3 hour mark is where someone asked something close to "do you do the work for us". Go to the source people and don't believe rumors online from people who have not been through the program.

Their program provides access to a CEO and founder of the most prestigious Protyping company from China who did a presentation to teach people how to create their own product. Also for questions about International law they brought in an International lawyer from Price Waterhouse n Cooper Law Firm. They have the one and only Richard Branson going to an event. They give discounts on many services from companies that have exclusive deals for their clients. They take trips together - other entrepreneur friends in the same business...how fun and great business meeting ops - and again offer travel discounts (think I heard that right). They have a very active and super helpful Facebook group where they all help each other and the experienced ones already earning their millions show up to help the beginners! All of this plus more I'm probably forgetting is well worth a thousand bucks.

WATCH before listening to opinions. There are also newer ones so you can scroll past the demo and get to the Q&A for all of them which is helpful too. Search them on YouTube to see a list of more.

I will likely sign up with them. I haven't found any bad reviews from anyone who has actually been through their program.

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[Walter Hay]

Walter, if you have a minute can you expand on your comment and does your view come from knowing what's in the StartupBros course or only from what you saw on a webinar which is just the overview of what they teach? I think you can help a lot of people who will see this thread.

If anyone wants to hear Will from StartupBros literally say they do NOT do the work for people because they are helping people become entrepreneurs, not Internet marketers. just watch this very extensive and informative webinar from April 2015...around the 3 hour mark is where someone asked something close to "do you do the work for us". Go to the source people and don't believe rumors online from people who have not been through the program.

Their program provides access to a CEO and founder of the most prestigious Protyping company from China who did a presentation to teach people how to create their own product. Also for questions about International law they brought in an International lawyer from Price Waterhouse n Cooper Law Firm. They have the one and only Richard Branson going to an event. They give discounts on many services from companies that have exclusive deals for their clients. They take trips together - other entrepreneur friends in the same business...how fun and great business meeting ops - and again offer travel discounts (think I heard that right). They have a very active and super helpful Facebook group where they all help each other and the experienced ones already earning their millions show up to help the beginners! All of this plus more I'm probably forgetting is well worth a thousand bucks.

WATCH before listening to opinions. There are also newer ones so you can scroll past the demo and get to the Q&A for all of them which is helpful too. Search them on YouTube to see a list of more.

I will likely sign up with them. I haven't found any bad reviews from anyone who has actually been through their program.

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Hi Tonya,

I don't want to begin an argument, so I won't deal with what I see as specific errors or failings in what is taught in StartupBros or any other course for that matter, but I would just make a few comments.

1. I have no doubt that their marketing experience in establishing an online business will be of value to many, although I believe there is a much lower cost course that is extremely comprehensive, covering every imaginable area of establishing, building and successfully operating an online business selling physical products, that also incorporates a very active Facebook group.

2. Their expertise is clearly in marketing, and not importing. Will's original eBook that is still a seminal part of the program makes that very evident, and it is also very evident from their blog, particularly in relation to answers to readers' questions. They are certainly not alone in this.

Threads and AMAs on this forum show similar lack of experience in, and understanding of, the real business of sourcing and importing, while showing considerable expertise in marketing. Other courses, including the ridiculously expensive Amazing Selling Machine also offer a very simplistic approach to overseas product sourcing. Even dropshipping courses that very often encourage branching into stocking inventory, suffer from the same deficiency.

I am not touting for business in this reply, but I strongly believe that those who offer such good product marketing courses would do themselves and their clients a great favor if they instead recommended my book (or another if they can find an equally comprehensive eBook by someone who has been there - done that). They all use affiliate links to sell other specialist books or courses, so I fail to understand why they won't give added value to their program by recommending a real expert's proven program that is complementary to and not competitive with their field of undoubted expertise.

On this subject, I should add that I know the inadequacy of many courses that include importing in their curriculum, because many of my book buyers tell me that is why they have bought my book. This is to a large extent how I know the relevant parts of the course contents of most that are on the market.

Walter

 

[WillMitchell]

I am not touting for business in this reply, but I strongly believe that those who offer such good product marketing courses would do themselves and their clients a great favor if they instead recommended my book (or another if they can find an equally comprehensive eBook by someone who has been there - done that). They all use affiliate links to sell other specialist books or courses, so I fail to understand why they won't give added value to their program by recommending a real expert's proven program that is complementary to and not competitive with their field of undoubted expertise.

tl;dr - buy Walter's book

I'm sure your book is great Walter. Nobody is knocking your book here...

However, sourcing & importing is NOT the same as building a successful e-commerce brand/company. As you said - branding & marketing play a much bigger role in building successful companies.

That's the beauty of our program - it's not just me blabbering on acting like I know everything. I only know how to get shit done and build great companies. Usually, that means connecting with the best in every field and building relationships with them - not learning everything about everything.

When we cover sourcing & importing - we bring in the guy who does sourcing & importing/logistics for multi-billion dollar brands like H&M and Zara, Mish Mash, etc.

Why? Because he's the best I've found after importing & selling over $25mm of product - and that's who I suggest our clients get their sourcing & importing advice from. He's the only one I trust in this world that's drowning in experts.

I don't claim to be an expert in anything but building successful companies. I help entrepreneurs start companies successfully. I am not an importing expert - that title is all yours

Hope this helps,
Will

 

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[Walter Hay]

Thanks Will,

I would not have commented if someone very persistent had not asked me to.

I completely agree that sourcing and importing are totally different to the product marketing side of a business. That is why I don't get involved in the marketing side.

I suppose the big difference between your clients and those who buy my book would be that although I have some who came to me after importing containers loads, most of my book buyers are newbies, usually starting small. This is probably why they come to me rather than seek the help of your sourcing and importing expert who is used to handling huge accounts. I have no doubt that with that experience he is a great asset to you.

I think I should mention that I have built 2 multi-million dollar businesses, both of which I expanded internationally, one through exporting and the other through franchising. I ran the first one for 20 years and the second one for 22 years before I was forced to sell it due to serious health problems. That second business imported everything we sold.

Regards,
Walter

 

[WillMitchell]

Thanks Will,

I would not have commented if someone very persistent had not asked me to.

I completely agree that sourcing and importing are totally different to the product marketing side of a business. That is why I don't get involved in the marketing side.

I suppose the big difference between your clients and those who buy my book would be that although I have some who came to me after importing containers loads, most of my book buyers are newbies, usually starting small. This is probably why they come to me rather than seek the help of your sourcing and importing expert who is used to handling huge accounts. I have no doubt that with that experience he is a great asset to you.

I think I should mention that I have built 2 multi-million dollar businesses, both of which I expanded internationally, one through exporting and the other through franchising. I ran the first one for 20 years and the second one for 22 years before I was forced to sell it due to serious health problems. That second business imported everything we sold.

Regards,
Walter

Congrats on the successful businesses Walter! There's lots of ways to skin the cat of success - no doubt we are both helping others do that

 

[Yussef]

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[Yussef]

Congrats on the successful businesses Walter! There's lots of ways to skin the cat of success - no doubt we are both helping others do that

Nice Webinar

 

[Yussef]

Two things flawed here (it would be the case in most instances but not in this one)
1) They are using Amazon as the main channel. I put that in another category of it's own, I wouldn't even call it importing per say. You cannot build a "big big big" business out of it, not using Amazon.. only the unwise do that. You could however hit $M, but to me "big big big" is $B and that is all about distribution game outside of Amazon.

2) That particular Amazon import niche is actually not that crowded... yet.

At the end of the day; it's your opinion on something someone else is doing. I'd rather focus on myself... which is what I am going back to do.... right.... now.

Uh ...I'm cool with the $M for now.

 

[Yussef]

Also want to mention that it's very common to give away free stuff to get people to show up to webinars. No different than serving lunch in corporate business meetings to get busy people to show up. Webinars are more believable and worth the time of the host when enough people show up to ask questions. Bottom line is those guys know what they are talking about, they are not ripping anyone off, and they are providing a great service for a lot of people. If someone who has actually watched their videos and taken their group coaching program has a legit complaint, then that would be worth reading. There are so many extremely successful entrepreneurs doing podcasts and webinars doing the exact same thing. They are millionaires, some even show their income reports, and they have hundreds of hours of free podcasts and also charge for coaching. Marie Forleo, Pat Flynn, Ramit Sethi, Mixergy, and the list goes on and on. Why would any of those extremely successful people do free podcasts and also charge a few thousand for coaching? It's their prerogative and seems to be the standard. Yet all the info they give out can be found online for anyone who wants to spend a year or two digging to learn everything they have already gathered to present. Busy people appreciate these successful people taking the time to get an insane amount of information gathered for us in one place to learn from. There is no reason to question StartupBros based on what was posted in this thread.

Jordan Malic approves of them. Apparently Malic is well respected and a good source. See him introduce them on this informative presentation.

Tonya thanks for this video. Jordan is solid. His podcast is packed with value and he has an ironclad reputation for integrity. This may be my determining factor.

 

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[Wannakatana]

I have gone through two different seminars, StartupBros actually gave actionable advice rather than mostly fluff like the other one. I felt like I could do it myself with their advice which in turn made me more confident in their "for pay" service. Just on the surface, and seeing Kyle's very diplomatic and direct replies in this thread, I tend to trust them more than the other dudes.