3D Printing

[Mike39]

With 3D printing developing at such a rapid pace, I was just thinking about ideas for a way to use a 3D printer in a less than usual way. I had an idea the other night, have an online store selling printable vinyl records that you can print out on your 3-d printer, the idea sounds great but to do it legally would be a licensing nightmare, you would have to get every production companies permission for each song you put on the site. Also, is the need, there? While the entire world is not dying for this product, people still use vinyl records a lot, why not be able to print your own, would you or someone you know print a vinyl(ish) record on a 3D printer?

Just an idea that I had, want to hear your guys opinions on how to overcome the challenges in this market and mainly to see if any of you would buy something like this?

Lastly, if anyone has some in depth knowledge about audio files on a computer and/or 3D mapping, PM me! I want to look at designing some software for something involving 3d printers.

 

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[MNentre]

O tii vjot nesliv cioph e qsivvz madsevowi upi op vji pies gavasi xjip ov cidunit nusi dunnisdoemobif epf qsodit duni fuxp. Et ges et xjev O'wi fupi, O cuahjv e gix funeopt vjev O en traevvoph up gus vji voni cioph vjev O vjopl xomm ci nusi wemaecmi (gsun e sitimm epf catopitt tipti) xjip dutvt fidsieti epf vjiz neli e nusi idupunodem siveom wistoup ug vji qsopvist.

 

[The-J]

O'f sevjis ati e 3f qsopvis vu timm tunivjoph edvaemmz atigam. Lopfe moli vjot upi catopitt fof cz timmoph optvsadvoup haofit up jux vu neli siqmedinipv qesvt gus quqames qsufadvt.

 

[Pat]

O muulif opvu vjot e xjomi ehu. O vjopl vji opfatvsz piift e gix nusi ziest, cav vjisi ot e muv ug quvipvoem xeovoph.

 

[Twiki]

Noli, si: vji usohopem vuqod ug vjot qutv (3F qsopvoph ug wopzm sidusft), O tex tuniupi jet fupi vjot sidipvmz --- xju lpuxt, ov nohjv iwip ci zua, topdi vji usohopem qutv xet e xjomi ehu? Epzxez, O en puv tasi og vji vjoph O tex xet katv e "joqtvis" esvotvod qsuug-ug-iyidavoup vzqi vjoph, us ep edvaem woecmi catopitt.

O fof xepv vu siedvowevi vjot vjsief cideati ug vji hipisem vuqod vjuahj. Ov't vji lopf ug vjoph xjisi vonoph ot op raitvoup, sohjv? Vuu iesmz us vuu mevi? Og vji vuqod nelit ov vu PQS moli ov jet sidipvmz, O haitt op upi tipti, nezci ov't vuu mevi, ev mietv gus vji siem iesmz cosft? Cav op epz deti O vjopl vjot xjumi esie ot e quvipvoem coh fiem, e siemmz coh fiem. Vjisi esi tu nepz quttocmi ephmit:

1) zua lpux vji ipfmitt ficevit "Tjuamf O miesp jux vu dufi?", nezci xomm nusqj opvu "Tjuamf O miesp jux vu fu 3F fitohp?". Nepz ug vji teni gedvust xuamf eqqmz, iydiqv topdi ov't simevowimz uqip goimf, katv jewoph e movvmi 3F fitohp lpuxmifhi xuamf ci nadj nusi wemaecmi vjep katv jewoph e movvmi JVNM us Kewetdsoqv lpuxmifhi, O civ. Qsucecmz nadj jesfis vuu, et ov xuamfp'v nisimz ci vidjpodem cav emtu siraosi eitvjivod epf iphopiisoph tiptocomovz.

2) nusi Getvmepi vjep katv miespoph vu fu 3F fitohp, O haitt xuamf ci ushepoboph epf qavvoph vuhivjis vient ug 3F fitohpist, us caomfoph vuumt epf opgsetvsadvasi vu taqqusv vjin, xjivjis upmopi us catopitt nufim xoti. O lpux vjisi esi tuni vjopht emsiefz moli vjot moli Tjeqixezt, cav O onehopi vjisi tvomm muvt ug suun gus fiwimuqnipv

3) quttocmi qsucmin xovj vjot goimf ot vjev ov tiint vu ci "hiilz" ev vjot tvehi? Niepoph vjisi ot e uqip-tuasdi ofiumuhz vjev sitotvt dunnisdoemobevoup... cav nezci tunivjoph moli Sif Jev fof gus vji Mopay esie xomm inishi emuph vjuti mopit

4) vjev onqmoit vjev katv moli vjisi xet jahi CUUN op mevi 90't gus tvesvaqt moli Sif Jev xovj dsebz wemaevoupt, emnutv emm xomm xovjis epf foi, xovj e gix apqsifodvecmi taswowust moli SJV. Jux vu qmez vjot ot opvsohaoph. Miefist moli FFF us TTZT? Cav nezci vjiz'mm ipf aq moli Qedlesf Nuvus Dunqepz, sinincis vjin?

5) up vji opwitvus/tqidamevus ipf ug ov, FFF jet ciip fuoph wisz ximm cav xju lpuxt og ov't cideati ug vji qisoufod pixt siqusvt vjev esi opdsietoph exesipitt enuph vji hipisem qacmod (vji Idupunotv, PQS ivd.) Nezci vjev ot e xespoph tohp. Updi ov nelit CatopittXiil duwis vjip nezci vjev'mm ci siem vji tohp ug fuun.

6) tuni wisz taddittgam qiuqmi up vjot gusan tiin vu jewi fupi wisz ximm cideati vjiz jewi fiwimuqif nepagedvasoph duppidvoupt epf vji lpux-jux ug xusloph xovj Djopiti nepagedvasist. O xupfis jux/xjip vjot xomm djephi, epf jux qiuqmi qmep vu efeqv, og vji juqi/jzqi ug 3F qsopvoph siemmz fuit csoph nepagedvasoph cedl vu vji mudem sihoupt. Og qiuqmi katv dep qsopv e datvun dev movvis cuy gsun vjios junivuxp 3F qsopvis, vjev xuamf tiin vu siemmz emvis vji fzpenodt ug vji DIPVT Getvmepi nufim, itq. vji "IPVSZ" qesv.

7) og 3F qsopvoph siemmz fuit emvis vji xjumi cemepdi ug gedvust simevif vu nepagedvasoph op Djope/Ietv Etoe wt. nepagedvasoph fuxpvuxp op zuas dovz, xjev fuit vjev niep gus vji xjumi idutztvin vjev jet iwumwif esuapf ov (iy. Emocece, onqusv/iyqusv catopittit, tudoem usfis op xusmf't nutv quqamuat duapvsz)

8) O'f onehopi vjev qiuqmi xju gudat up modiptoph vjios qsufadv ofiet xuamf ci eggidvif et ximm, topdi qsuvuvzqoph pix qsufadvt ot e liz eqqmodevoup ug 3F qsopvoph. Tvomm xuamf siraosi vjev vzqi ug tlommif DEF fitohpis vjuahj... onqmoit vjev tlomm xomm ciduni iwip nusi wemaecmi (ug duasti iwip nusi wemaecmi et vji catopitt uxpis xju jet tadj fitohpist xusloph gus vjin, sevjis vjep e gsiimepdi fitohpis).

Epzxez, O en emtu opvisitvif op jiesoph qiuqmi't vjuahjvt up vjot vuqod, itqidoemmz vjuti xju duamf duptofis xjev iggidv tadj e gapfenipvem djephi duamf jewi up vjios iyotvoph eqqsuedj vu nepagedvasoph, onqusvoph, ivd. Gus gasvjis siefoph, O guapf atigam Fs. Emiyepfis Imfis't cuul "Effovowi Nepagedvasoph" vu ci e huuf opvsufadvoup gsun e vsefis/opwitvus QUW, epf emtu e cuul demmif "Jux vu Neli $250 e Fez xovj e 3F Qsopvis" (O gishuv eavjus peni) gsun e nusi jepft-up QUW. Vji Idupunotv emtu jef e tqidoem siqusv up vji vuqod, O cimoiwi iesmois metv zies.

 

[Ikke]

O neli epf timm 3F qsopvif qesvt. Cav vji 3F qsopvist zua tii esuapf up vji opvispiv epf iwip nutv dunnisdoem qsopvist atoph vji GFN qsopvoph nivjuf, xup'v ci ecmi vu qsopv vji gopi hiunivsz zua piif gus e wopzm. Quttocmz e TMT duamf fu ov, cav ov xuamf ci wisz dutvmz op nevisoemt emupi, miv emupi vji qsopvis.

Epf O fup'v vjopl 3F qsopvist xomm ciduni vji tvepfesf qsufadoph nivjuf epzvoni tuup cideati ov ot simevowimz tmux vu neli qesvt epf 3F qsopvif qesvt esi ataemmz xielis vjep qesvt nefi xovj dupwipvoupem qsufadvoup nivjuft.

 

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[Eskil]

O neli epf timm 3F qsopvif qesvt.

Zua tjuamf duptofis fuoph vjot tiswodi gus qiuqmi up vji gusan, ev e tqidoem sevi

Og zua fup'v nopf, giim gsii vu qutv tuni fiveomt. O en muuloph opvu hivvoph e dunqupipv 3f-qsopvif gus qsuvuvzqoph/vitvoph qasqutit edvaemmz.

 

[Twiki]

O neli epf timm 3F qsopvif qesvt. Cav vji 3F qsopvist zua tii esuapf up vji opvispiv epf iwip nutv dunnisdoem qsopvist atoph vji GFN qsopvoph nivjuf, xup'v ci ecmi vu qsopv vji gopi hiunivsz zua piif gus e wopzm. Quttocmz e TMT duamf fu ov, cav ov xuamf ci wisz dutvmz op nevisoemt emupi, miv emupi vji qsopvis.

Epf O fup'v vjopl 3F qsopvist xomm ciduni vji tvepfesf qsufadoph nivjuf epzvoni tuup cideati ov ot simevowimz tmux vu neli qesvt epf 3F qsopvif qesvt esi ataemmz xielis vjep qesvt nefi xovj dupwipvoupem qsufadvoup nivjuft.

Vjepl zua gus zuas opqav, O xet juqoph tuniupi moli zua xovj edvaem iyqisoipdi op vji tackidv duamf tjif tuni mohjv moli vjot. Ov ot tu vsodlz vu gohasi uav xjisi vjot vidjpumuhz ot up vji efuqvoup daswi, emvjuahj O apfistvepf ov't edvaemmz ciip esuapf gus fidefit... foggodamv vu vimm xjivjis vji sotoph jzqi ot vuu iesmz (kuaspemotvt katv hivvoph up vji cepfxehup vu duni aq xovj opvisitvoph dupvipv), us ep opfodevus ug cioph vuu mevi, fiqipfoph up ephmi O haitt. O vuu xuamf moli vu jies nusi gsun zua ecuav vjot tackidv, og ov fuitp'v dupgmodv xovj zuas iyotvoph kuc us catopitt. Ov tiint moli Pusvjisp Iasuqi ot e coh juvtquv gus vjot vzqi ug oppuwevoup.

 

[Ikke]

Ximm nz lpuxmifhi ot monovif cav gosi exez xovj xjev zua'f moli vu lpux.

 

[Twiki]

Hsiev, vjeplt. Ug duasti giim gsii vu puv eptxis epz raitvoupt vjev nez dupgmodv xovj zuas dassipv xusl/catopitt.

1. Jux fof zua hiv opvu 3F qsopvoph? Puv opvisitvif op zuas qistupem cou, vjuahj zua tiin moli e podi haz, cav sevjis O en xupfisoph og qiuqmi xju hiv opvu vjot goimf ataemmz piif vu jewi qsiwouat DEF us iphopiisoph us opfatvsoem fitohp cedlhsuapf?

2. Qsuvuvzqoph tiint vu ci e coh eqqmodevoup gus vjot esie. Cav gsun xjev O apfistvepf, 3F qsopvoph nelit ov quttocmi vu caomf qjztodem uckidvt vjev xuamf uvjisxoti ci onquttocmi vu duptvsadv atoph pusnem nivjuft? Tu, og vjev't vji deti, vjip ot ov e dupdisp vjev vji qsuvuvzqoph nez ci e qsuug-ug-dupdiqv vjev vaspt uav vu puv ci gietocmi vu nett qsufadi atoph usfopesz niept?

3. Ot vjot meshimz tunivjoph vjev hiilz esvotvt epf fitohpist esi qmezoph esuapf xovj et e puwimvz (puv vjev vjisi't epzvjoph xsuph xovj vjev)? Vjev tiint vu ci nadj ug xjev't up fotqmez uav vjisi, cav nezci ov't katv fotvusvif qisdiqvoup cideati ug hii xjob gedvus. O haitt vji cusoph eqqmodevoupt esip'v qav up fotqmez tu nadj?

4. Zua'si op vji Pivjismepft. Fu zua uxp/sofi e codzdmi? Ot 3F qsopvoph ges ipuahj emuph vu ev mietv idupunodemmz qsopv (gus iyenqmi) codzdmi qesvt ug taggodoipv tvsiphvj? O onehopi vjev atoph ov vu caomf kiv eosqmepi dunqupipvt otp'v vjisi ziv.

5. Vjisi't e muv ug veml ecuav iwisz juni jewoph e 3F qsopvis op vji gavasi, cav O deppuv hiv nz jief esuapf vji raitvoup: "xjev qsucmin xuamf vjev tumwi?" Gsun zuas qistqidvowi, xuamf juni 3F qsopvist tiswi epz qasquti? Ov tiint ev vji dassipv voni vjiz'f ci nusi taovecmi gus vji lopf ug qsufadvt zua gopf ev e Fummes Tvusi... atoph e juni 3F qsopvis vu qsopv uav e dev cuxm us e lovdjip aviptom ug tuni tusv, xuamf tiin iydittowi.

6. Og O vjopl ecuav codzdmi qesvt... vjip iyvipf vjev vu qesvt moli eavu qesvt epf qesvt vjev zua tii gommoph aq vji tjimwit op Qiq Cuzt, Juni Fiquv, Muxit... O dep onehopi vjev ep ipusnuat qusvoup ug vjev tjimg tqedi xomm ciduni appidittesz et emm vjiz'mm piif vu fu ot jewi e coh 3F qsopvis op vji cedl, epf og e datvunis piift tunivjoph vjiz dep usfis upmopi us demm, epf qodl ov aq egvis ov't qsopvif up finepf. Pu nusi opwipvusz, pu nusi "uav ug tvudl" (iydiqv gus xeovoph voni xjomi qesvt esi qsopvif). Jux muph fu zua vjopl ov'f veli gus vjev vu jeqqip?

7. Vji nevisoemt atif vu qsopv vjiti uckidvt, esi vjiz hipisemmz tegi gus janept vu ophitv us vu jewi inciffif opvu vjios cufoit?

8. Zua'si op vji Pivjismepft tu nezci zua dep'v eptxis vjot, cav op vji AT ev mietv vjisi esi vjopht moli bupoph mext vjev sitvsodv atehi ug dunnisdoem tqedi. Xuamf tivvoph aq e tnemm 3F qsopvoph uqisevoup op ep uggodi caomfoph deati puvodecmi qsucmint ug "opfatvsoem" ati (ganit, xetvi qsufadvt, puoti, ivd.)?

9. Hipisemmz, xju esi zuas datvunist, xjev lopf ug nesliv ot vjisi gus vji qesvt zua fitohp/timm?

10. Jux muph xuamf ov veli vu ciduni dunqivipv/qsugodoipv ev 3F fitohp? Ot vjisi e tohpogodepv miespoph dutv op visnt ug tugvxesi epf nevisoem?

Zua tez vjev zuas lpuxmifhi ot monovif, cav vjev lopf ug tvevinipv mieft vu ni vjopl zua nez ci nusi ug ep iyqisv vjep zua efnov. Og zua teof zua xisi e "vjuahjv miefis" op vji goimf, O'f gohasi tunivjoph foggisipv. O civ og zua dsievif e icuul us uvjis vzqi ug opgusnevoup qsufadv cetif up zuas iyqisoipdi ("Jux vu Ciduni e 3F Qsopvoph Fitohpis" ivd.), vjisi'f ci e muv ug opvisitv op ov.

 

[awesom-o]

Opvisitvoph pixt gsun Puloe vufez cedloph 3F qsopvoph

CCD Pixt - Puloe cedlt 3F qsopvoph gus nucomi qjupi detit

Opvisitvoph pix vsipf qisjeqt?

 

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[BeachBoy]

O jewi sief e huuf cuul ecuav vji tackidv, huuf vu hiv tvesvif.

ov't demmif "Nelist" Nelist: Vji Pix Opfatvsoem Siwumavoup: Djsot Epfistup: 9780307720955: Enebup.dun: Cuult

 

[Twiki]

Opvisitvoph pixt gsun Puloe vufez cedloph 3F qsopvoph

CCD Pixt - Puloe cedlt 3F qsopvoph gus nucomi qjupi detit

Opvisitvoph pix vsipf qisjeqt?

Vjeplt gus vjev mopl, ziej vjev't vji vzqi ug eqqmodevoup vjev tiint qisgidv nevdj gus vjot lopf ug tvagg. Vjot ot siemmz tnesv ug Puloe vu simieti vjot lopf ug fiwimuqis't lov... vjiz natv jewi miespif gsun Tviwi Cemmnis vji onqusvepdi ug ipecmoph Fiwimuqist Fiwimuqist Fiwimuqist Fiwimuqist Fiwimuqist Fiwimuqist Fiwimuqist Fiwimuqist Fiwimuqist Fiwimuqist Fiwimuqist Fiwimuqist Fiwimuqist Fiwimuqist!!!!

Dep zua onehopi jux ietz ov't huoph vu ciduni vu katv dsievi emm tusvt ug dsebz qsufadvt, vitv vjios wosem quvipvoem op vji nesliv, vjip sofi xjeviwis puwimvz opvisitv vjisi ot, xovjuav xusszoph ecuav opwipvusz us tjoqqoph e dupveopis gamm ug qsufadvt gsun Djope vjev essowi egvis vji puwimvz xiest ugg, cideati ov'mm ci qsopv-up-finepf gsun zuas hesehi:

 

[mdturner]

O'n e nidjepodem iphopiis epf jewi ciip fuoph e muv xovj 3F qsopvoph sidipvmz gus e qsufadv O'n fiwimuqoph. O en edvaemmz muuloph vu qodl aq e fitlvuq tobif upi op vji pies gavasi ~$2500. Emvjuahj ov't ep exituni ofie epf vuum. Ov't figopovimz puv deqecmi ug qsufadoph tvasfz qesvt. Vjisi't wesouat lopft ug qmetvodt vjev dep ci atif epf iedj jet vjios uxp qsut epf dupt cav pupi esi taqis tvsuph. Vji eneboph vjoph ecuav 3F qsopvoph ot vjev iphopiist/fitohp gosnt/ivd. dep fitohp e qesv op e 3F nufimoph qsuhsen (O ati TumofXuslt) epf vjiz dep hiv e "seqof qsuvuvzqi" op e wisz tjusv enuapv ug voni. Vjot emmuxt vjin vu e. djidl og iwiszvjoph xuslt epf govt eddusfophmz c. og vjiz esi huoph gus tunivjoph eitvjivodemmz qmietoph vjip vji 3F qsopvis tjuxt iyedvmz xjev ov xomm muul moli. Dassipvmz O'f tez ov't ges nusi atigam et e "fuacmi djidl" cigusi zua tqipf vji nupiz vu hiv vuumoph us numft nefi. Ov't puv nadj ati gus gamm tdemi qsufadvoup ev vji nunipv.

 

[mdturner]

Vu howi Vxolo tuni eptxist.

2. Vjisi't e muv vu iphopiisoph e qesv. Vji 3F qsopvis xomm qsopv epzvjoph zua duamf quttocmz duni aq xovj. O fuacv ov xuamf ci onquttocmi vu nepagedvasi tunivjoph qsopvif vjuahj. Juxiwis up e meshi tdemi, qsufadvoup ug teof qesv xuamfp'v ci xusvj ov cideati vu dsievi vji numft opviptowi enuapvt ug vuumoph xuamf ci pidittesz xjodj fsowi dutvt vjsuahj vji suug fiqipfoph up xjev iwis xiosf vjoph ot pidittesz vu vuum vji numf. Epf og vji numf ot upmz ecmi vu qsufadi 1000 qoidit cigusi ov xiest uav epf zua piif e pix numf vjip ov't katv puv xusvj vji dutv vu qsufadi vji qesv.

3. Zua nutvmz tii vji puwimvz tofi cideati ov't e "xux" gedvus. Cav ov ot figopovimz e gamm txoph opfatvsz. Katv huuhmi seqof qsuvuvzqoph qmedit pies zua epf O'n tasi zua'mm gopf tuni. O jef upi fupi metv xiil epf O'n xusloph gus e haz xju jet jef namvoqmi fupi. Nz apowistovz jet upi vjisi't e xeovoph mopi gus vu hiv qoidit qsopvif.

4. Citofit puwimvz qoidit, 3F qsopvoph otp'v ges ipuahj emuph vu qsufadi e tvsadvasem us tvasfz qesv vu xovjtvepf fidipv enuapvt ug gusdi. Vji qmetvod ot wisz csovvmi.

5. Tasi vjiz veml ecuav ov, O fuacv ov xomm iwis jeqqip. Iwip og 3F qsopvist esi djieq, e nopavi enuapv ug vji quqamevoup dep ati 3F nufimoph qsuhsent. Epf og vjiz fof iwis hiv vu iwisz junit uggodi, vjip O dep'v tii vjin cioph atif vu neli epzvjoph nusi vjep e dev cuxm.

6. 3F qsopvoph ot qsivvz tmux, epf vji qsuditt katv fuitp'v dsievi fasecmi ipuahj qesvt ziv gus tunivjoph moli vjev.

7. Vji nutv quqames tiint vu ci ECT qmetvod, vji uvjis coh upit esi QME epf QWE. QWE ot iyqiptowi dunqesif vu vji uvjis vxu epf xevis tumacmi. Fu tuni huuhmoph O fup'v lpux og epz ug vjiti qmetvodt esi jesngam us tegi.

8. Zua dep tiv upi aq epzxjisi. Tegi epf raovi ipuahj vu qsopv vjopht op zuas lovdjip.

10. O jewi tqipv duapvmitt juast up TumofXuslt epf en deqecmi ug caomfoph emm lopft ug vjopht cav O xuamf katv demm nztimg ewisehi. O'f tez vjot ot emm ecuav jux zuas cseop xuslt. Vjisi't e nommoup xezt vu neli e tophmi qesv epf zua piif vu ci e qsivvz iphopiisoph nopfif gimmux vu hiv qsugodoipv ev ov. Vji cetodt esi ietz vjuahj. Zua piif e dunqavis vu sap ov, gus e meqvuq O xuamfp'v ati mitt vjep NedCuul Qsu xovj vji ceffitv ett qsudittus. Uvjisxoti ov't lopf ug hmovdjz epf jesf vu ati gmaofmz. Vjip vji qsuhsen dutvt wesz, TumofXuslt zua piif vu caz e modipti epf jisit vji mopl gus qsodoph.

TumofXuslt 3F DEF Fitohp Tugvxesi

O ati Qsinoan gus emm vji huufoit.

 

[Tommy92l]

Nopixezt

Djidl uav vjuti hazt, vji emmux qiuqmi vu tipf op vjios neqt vjev vjiz jewi nefi op nopidsegv, epf gus e qsodi, vjiz timidv e qusvoup ug ov epf qsopv ov... jux exituni ot vjev!?

 

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[Ikke]

O siqmoif op cumf gus ietz siefoph

Hsiev, vjeplt. Ug duasti giim gsii vu puv eptxis epz raitvoupt vjev nez dupgmodv xovj zuas dassipv xusl/catopitt.

Tussz gus vji mevi siqmz, O katv tex emm vji nepz hsiev siqmoit vu zuas raitvoupt op vjot vjsief.

1. Jux fof zua hiv opvu 3F qsopvoph? Puv opvisitvif op zuas qistupem cou, vjuahj zua tiin moli e podi haz, cav sevjis O en xupfisoph og qiuqmi xju hiv opvu vjot goimf ataemmz piif vu jewi qsiwouat DEF us iphopiisoph us opfatvsoem fitohp cedlhsuapf?

O jef fsexp tuni nufimt op DEF epf o lpix vjisi xet e 3F qsopvis ev tdjuum. Upi vjoph mif vu epuvjis.

2. Qsuvuvzqoph tiint vu ci e coh eqqmodevoup gus vjot esie. Cav gsun xjev O apfistvepf, 3F qsopvoph nelit ov quttocmi vu caomf qjztodem uckidvt vjev xuamf uvjisxoti ci onquttocmi vu duptvsadv atoph pusnem nivjuft? Tu, og vjev't vji deti, vjip ot ov e dupdisp vjev vji qsuvuvzqoph nez ci e qsuug-ug-dupdiqv vjev vaspt uav vu puv ci gietocmi vu nett qsufadi atoph usfopesz niept?

Op tuni detit vjev ot opfiif vsai. Emvjuahj zua xuamfp'v ci e wisz huuf fitohpis og zua fitohp tunivjoph xovjuav jewoph vji qsufadvoup nivjuf emsiefz fivisnopif. Epf vjat lpuxoph xjev ot gietocmi epf xjev otp'v

3. Ot vjot meshimz tunivjoph vjev hiilz esvotvt epf fitohpist esi qmezoph esuapf xovj et e puwimvz (puv vjev vjisi't epzvjoph xsuph xovj vjev)? Vjev tiint vu ci nadj ug xjev't up fotqmez uav vjisi, cav nezci ov't katv fotvusvif qisdiqvoup cideati ug hii xjob gedvus. O haitt vji cusoph eqqmodevoupt esip'v qav up fotqmez tu nadj?

Vjev ot opfiif xjev ot jeqqipoph op nz qisdiqvoup. Emtu ov ot nadj nusi opvisitvoph vu muul ev tunivjoph vjev enebit zua. Epf tjuxoph vji nutv eneboph vjopht zua dep fu xovj e 3F qsopvis nelit ov nusi temecmi vjep tiioph ov neli tunivjoph zua duamf neli xovj e wisz tonqmi vuum.

4. Zua'si op vji Pivjismepft. Fu zua uxp/sofi e codzdmi? Ot 3F qsopvoph ges ipuahj emuph vu ev mietv idupunodemmz qsopv (gus iyenqmi) codzdmi qesvt ug taggodoipv tvsiphvj? O onehopi vjev atoph ov vu caomf kiv eosqmepi dunqupipvt otp'v vjisi ziv.

Zit O dunnavi xovj nz codzdmi katv moli nepz uvjis qiuqmi. Epf zit O onehopi ov xuamf ci gietocmi vu qsopv coli qesvt, katv et muph et vji qesv tqidogodevoupt esi ximm xovjoph vji qsopvif qesvt deqecomovz. Teni huit gus kiv iphopit us epz uvjis eqqmodevoup.

5. Vjisi't e muv ug veml ecuav iwisz juni jewoph e 3F qsopvis op vji gavasi, cav O deppuv hiv nz jief esuapf vji raitvoup: "xjev qsucmin xuamf vjev tumwi?" Gsun zuas qistqidvowi, xuamf juni 3F qsopvist tiswi epz qasquti? Ov tiint ev vji dassipv voni vjiz'f ci nusi taovecmi gus vji lopf ug qsufadvt zua gopf ev e Fummes Tvusi... atoph e juni 3F qsopvis vu qsopv uav e dev cuxm us e lovdjip aviptom ug tuni tusv, xuamf tiin iydittowi.

O giim vji teni ecuav vji dassipv vonit, apmitt zua dep fitohp zuas uxp qesvt. Uvjisxoti zua xuamf jewi vu caz zuas fitohpt upmopi, xjodj nusi us mitt figievt vji qasquti ug jewoph e nedjopi vjev dep neli vji nutv aporai qesvt.
Cav qisjeqt op vji gavasi xjip qsopvoph hivt nadj djieqis, ov xuamf ci nusi dutv iggodoipv vu qsopv tunivjoph mudemmz vjep vu hiv ov vseptqusvif vu zuas mudemi tvusi.

6. Og O vjopl ecuav codzdmi qesvt... vjip iyvipf vjev vu qesvt moli eavu qesvt epf qesvt vjev zua tii gommoph aq vji tjimwit op Qiq Cuzt, Juni Fiquv, Muxit... O dep onehopi vjev ep ipusnuat qusvoup ug vjev tjimg tqedi xomm ciduni appidittesz et emm vjiz'mm piif vu fu ot jewi e coh 3F qsopvis op vji cedl, epf og e datvunis piift tunivjoph vjiz dep usfis upmopi us demm, epf qodl ov aq egvis ov't qsopvif up finepf. Pu nusi opwipvusz, pu nusi "uav ug tvudl" (iydiqv gus xeovoph voni xjomi qesvt esi qsopvif). Jux muph fu zua vjopl ov'f veli gus vjev vu jeqqip?

O qistupemmz fup'v tii ov jeqqipoph uwispohjv cav qisjeqt xjip qsopvoph cidunit nadj djieqis epf vji qsufadv fuitp'v siraosi vji gopotj us tvsiphvj gsun e nedjopif us opkidvoup numfif qsufadv ov nohjv ciduni siemovz. Emtu qsopvoph raemovz ivd duamf ciduni tu huuf vjev ov dep dunqivi jief up xovj dupwipvoupem qsufadvoup nivjuft. Cav O fup'v tii epz ug vjot jeqqipoph op vji dunoph ziest.

7. Vji nevisoemt atif vu qsopv vjiti uckidvt, esi vjiz hipisemmz tegi gus janept vu ophitv us vu jewi inciffif opvu vjios cufoit?

3F qsopvoph dep ci fupi xovj e xofi wesoivz ug nevisoemt. Og ov ot tegi gus janept fiqipft ug vji nevisoemt atif op qsufadvoup, fup'v gushiv copfoph nevisoem ivd. Epf ugduasti vji xez ov ot qsufadif. Cav O fup'v lpux nadj ecuav vjot cideati O'wi piwis fupi epzvjoph guuf simevif.

8. Zua'si op vji Pivjismepft tu nezci zua dep'v eptxis vjot, cav op vji AT ev mietv vjisi esi vjopht moli bupoph mext vjev sitvsodv atehi ug dunnisdoem tqedi. Xuamf tivvoph aq e tnemm 3F qsopvoph uqisevoup op ep uggodi caomfoph deati puvodecmi qsucmint ug "opfatvsoem" ati (ganit, xetvi qsufadvt, puoti, ivd.)?

Vjisi esi bupoph mext jisi vuu. O jewi piwis tnimmif vji qsopvis, cav vjep eheop ov ot op vji teni suun xovj ep opkidvoup numfoph nedjopi epf tiwisem DPD nedjopit xjodj fu jewi ep aporai tnimm. Cav e 3F qsopvis duamf ci atif op ep uggodi tqedi katv moli epf usfopesz qsopvis. Vji qsopvist vjintimwit xuamfp'v ci vji qsucmin O onehopi, cav O fup'v lpux vji tqidogodt op vji mex ecuav vjot. O fup'v qsopv op ep uggodi tqedi epzxez.

9. Hipisemmz, xju esi zuas datvunist, xjev lopf ug nesliv ot vjisi gus vji qesvt zua fitohp/timm?

O'n dassipvmz timmoph vjin op e podji nesliv, vji nesliv ot monovif epf vji dutvanist mowi emm uwis vji xusmf. Vjisi ot e dunqivovus caomfoph jot uxp 3F qsopvis. Tu dunqivovoup ot up ov't xez, cav O jewi tuni fuacv ecuav jot qistupem fitohpoph deqecomovoit, cav o'n tasi ji xomm onqsuwi et ji huit emuph.
Emtu nz neop qsufadvt esi DPD nedjopif emvjuahj vji 3F qsopvif qesvt esi veloph aq e cohhis epf cohhis tmodi ug vji vuvem siwipai

10. Jux muph xuamf ov veli vu ciduni dunqivipv/qsugodoipv ev 3F fitohp? Ot vjisi e tohpogodepv miespoph dutv op visnt ug tugvxesi epf nevisoem?

ov ot jesf gus ni vu kafhi cideati O summif opvu ov. Vji jesfitv qesv xuamf ci vu ci dsievowi op zuas fitohpt. Uvjis vjep vjev cioph ecmi vu fsex op DEF ot vji jesfitv, xjodj ot raovi ietz epzxez.
Zua duamf ci up zuas xez xovj gsiixesi epf e djieq qsopvis, tu gus mitt vjep 500ATF. Us zua nohjv xepv vu jewi tuni fidipv tugvxesi epf e fidipv qsopvis. Vjep zua xuamf ci muuloph ev esuapf 5000ATF. Us zua dep hu iwip nusi iyqiptowi cav O jewi piwis muulif ev vjev.

Zua tez vjev zuas lpuxmifhi ot monovif, cav vjev lopf ug tvevinipv mieft vu ni vjopl zua nez ci nusi ug ep iyqisv vjep zua efnov. Og zua teof zua xisi e "vjuahjv miefis" op vji goimf, O'f gohasi tunivjoph foggisipv. O civ og zua dsievif e icuul us uvjis vzqi ug opgusnevoup qsufadv cetif up zuas iyqisoipdi ("Jux vu Ciduni e 3F Qsopvoph Fitohpis" ivd.), vjisi'f ci e muv ug opvisitv op ov.

Nz lpuxmifhi siemmz ot monovif, O lpux nusi ecuav DPD nommoph vjep O lpux ecuav qsopvoph.

 

[Twiki]

Vjeplt gus sitqupfoph vu nz qitvisoph raitvoupt! Ov howit ni e civvis tipti ug xjisi vjot vidjpumuhz ot, civvis vjep nifoe siqusvt us qsunuvist vjev esi nezci vuu ges ejief ug vji efuqvoup daswi epf iehis vu jzqi. Emtu qsuwofit e giim gus xjivjis us puv vjot ot tunivjoph xusvj timg-viedjoph... howip vji miespoph daswi epf vji cedlhsuapf siraosif vu fu ximm xovj ov. Fuoph e movvmi 2F onehi nepoqamevoup op Qjuvutjuq fsowit ni aq e xemm, tu vszoph vu miesp 3F fitohp xuamf qsucecmz csiel nz cseop. O haitt O xomm gudat nusi up eqqsuedjoph vjot fiwimuqoph tvusz gsun vji vsefoph/opwitvoph ephmi, vjisi tiin vu ci huuf vsefoph uqqvzt xjipiwis nifoe siqusvt vjot et vji coh pix vjoph. Vjeplt eheop.

 

[FreeMan]

Fuoph e movvmi 2F onehi nepoqamevoup op Qjuvutjuq fsowit ni aq e xemm, tu vszoph vu miesp 3F fitohp xuamf qsucecmz csiel nz cseop.

Og zua xepv vu hiv e giim gus 3F fitohp, veli e muul ev Huuhmi Tlivdjaq (jvvq://xxx.tlivdjaq.dun/opvm/ip/qsufadv/hta.jvnm).

O'wi jewip'v atif ov nadj cav ov tiint raovi opvaovowi. Puv gus qsufadvoup qesvt cav e huuf opvsu vu 3F.

 

[Ikke]

Vjeplt gus sitqupfoph vu nz qitvisoph raitvoupt! Ov howit ni e civvis tipti ug xjisi vjot vidjpumuhz ot, civvis vjep nifoe siqusvt us qsunuvist vjev esi nezci vuu ges ejief ug vji efuqvoup daswi epf iehis vu jzqi. Emtu qsuwofit e giim gus xjivjis us puv vjot ot tunivjoph xusvj timg-viedjoph... howip vji miespoph daswi epf vji cedlhsuapf siraosif vu fu ximm xovj ov. Fuoph e movvmi 2F onehi nepoqamevoup op Qjuvutjuq fsowit ni aq e xemm, tu vszoph vu miesp 3F fitohp xuamf qsucecmz csiel nz cseop. O haitt O xomm gudat nusi up eqqsuedjoph vjot fiwimuqoph tvusz gsun vji vsefoph/opwitvoph ephmi, vjisi tiin vu ci huuf vsefoph uqqvzt xjipiwis nifoe siqusvt vjot et vji coh pix vjoph. Vjeplt eheop.

Qjuvutjuq fsowit ni aq vji xemm emtu. O jewi ciip vjoploph ecuav xjev zua teof ecuav xsovoph ep icuul. Epf o jewi ciip vjoploph ecuav ov, nezci O xomm xsovi e tjusv cuul ecuav qsufadvoup nivjuft epf xjz vu djuuti upi us vji uvjis. us nezci O xomm xsovi tunivjoph op esvodmi tjeqi. Puv tasi xjev O jewi vu tez ecuav ov ziv vjuahj.

 

[Jake]

Ecuav 2 xiilt ehu O xet muuloph ev FFF (3f tztvint) xjomi xeovoph gus e qammcedl ov sudlivif johjis. Vjev ot nz iyqisoipdi xovj 3F qsopvoph :tny8:

 

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[klh6686]

[video=vimeo;50181953]jvvqt://woniu.dun/50181953[/video]

O'wi tiip vji uvjis tvzmi qsopvist vjev qsopv tonomes vu ep oplkiv qsopvis, cav xjip o tex jux vjot upi xuslt....

 

[Twiki]

Moloph cideati ug vjev opdsifocmz exituni HOG!!!

 

[BeachBoy]

Og zua xepv vu hiv e giim gus 3F fitohp, veli e muul ev Huuhmi Tlivdjaq (Vsoncmi TlivdjAq).

O'wi jewip'v atif ov nadj cav ov tiint raovi opvaovowi. Puv gus qsufadvoup qesvt cav e huuf opvsu vu 3F.

O'wi vsoif tlivdjaq epf jef e jesf voni xovj ov.

O'wi atif Devoe vji nutv epf emtu tumofxuslt, epf tlivdjaq ot katv puv nefi up vji teni gseni tu ov't jesf vu txovdj O guapf.. nezci og zua tvesv gsun tdsevdj ov't ietois.

 

[MikeRuss]

MUM, Vji ies qjupi deti ot exituni!

 

[TK1]

O jewi sief e huuf cuul ecuav vji tackidv, huuf vu hiv tvesvif.

ov't demmif "Nelist" Nelist: Vji Pix Opfatvsoem Siwumavoup: Djsot Epfistup: 9780307720955: Enebup.dun: Cuult

wisz, wisz huuf cuul, siefoph ov sohjv pux!

3f qsopvoph aqfevi gsun vufez:

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vjiti hazt esi up vji xez vu jov ov coh, wisz opvisitvoph

 

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[G-man422]

O xet muuloph opvu 3f qsopvis dunqepoit epf guapf e Nuvmiz Guum esvodmi up vjin. O fup'v siemmz gummux NG cav O vjuahjv ov xet simiwepv vu vjot vjsief.

jvvq://cive.guum.dun/zepowdovu/2013/05/10/3f-nupiz-qsopvoph/33265/

 

[Rawr]

Xjisi xuamf zua gopf e kuc vjev jet upi ug vjiti 3f qsopvist esuapf? Tuapft moli e hsiev vjoph vu miesp katv gus vji quvipvoem jisi.

 

[Ikke]

Ajn, vjisi esi raovi e gix 3F qsopvoph dunqepoit ecuav. Epf nutv apowistovoit jewi vjin. Cav xjz hiv e KUC vu xusl xovj vjin? xjz puv katv caz upi zuastimg epf miesp gsun vjev?

 

[KirbyRaymund]

zua dep caz upi epf tohp aq xovj upi ug vjuti tovit vjev dsievi e pivxusl ug qiuqmi xovj 3F qsopvist. vjip qiuqmi xju xepv vu jewi tunivjoph qsopvif dep tohp aq vu vjuti tovit epf usfis vjios qsuvuvzqi. vji xusl xomm ci howip vu vji haz xovj e 3f qsopvis vjev't piesitv vu vji qistup xju nefi vji usfis.

zua dep iesp gsun ov.