5+ Months Project Failed Miserably.. Case Study.. What's Next?

[LPPC]

Hey guys,

So I've been working on this (my very first real) project/online store for 5+ months and spent near $100 dollars on Facebook ads with 0 sales. I would really appreciate some advice on what to do next. Is there still any hope for a successful store or should I take the lessons and start another project? What is wrong with my shop?

I was looking for a product to start selling until I came across an ad for Plazmatic x (same product) on my facebook news feed. We've all heard the advice that if we want to be successful, we should model what successful people do. So I thought to myself: it should work with business too, so I'm going to model what Plazmatic X is doing. They are advertising and they've been in business at least for the 6 months I've been working on this, so they must be doing good business and this product is selling on Facebook. If they did not make money, they would be out of business right?

Why invent everything yourself from scratch, when you can model something that is already working? So I thought...

I decided to start selling the same kind of product, an electric lighter, but with a different (more beautiful in my opinion) style.

My online shop www.thorarc.com was born.

I modeled a lot from this competitor company. The facebook ad video is very very similar, my ad copy and layout is very similar, pricing is exactly the same, product is similar. I even paid to have a promo video made for the website (the first video on the site).

Only the website theme is different, but I've included many elements of their website that I thought were important. This is how their website was (they've changed their site now)
https://web.archive.org/web/20161024102259/https://www.plazmatic.com/collections/plazmatic-x

They didn't link the facebook ad to the product page, rather they linked it to the homepage where there is no add to cart button but a grid of the different styles you can choose from. I did the same, maybe I should have linked to the product page with the add to cart button.

I've had 260 visitors to my website through my facebook video ads. Bounce rate is 89,32%. Average session length is 19 seconds. 0 sales. Click through rate of the ad was5%, so that's good.

I spent $15 on PPE objective to get some social proof for my ad. After that I spent $52 on Click to website ads. I also spent 13 dollars on Conversions objective while running the Clicks objective, but cut it because it was underperforming compared to the click to website objective.

I'm still running retargeting ads, with no success. With one of the two retargeting ads I gave the people a coupon code of $20 discount (making the product sell for $29.99), but it apparently doesn't work.

The Clicks to website objective accounted for 80+% of the website visitors and I started that ad on the 17th December (facebook ad disapproval has been a pain in the ***). So it might have been that people already had bought everything for Christmas, so I may have been too late.

I targeted this to men between 18 and 35 years old. I chose men because it seems logical that men want these type of gadgets and also a $3 PPE Ad confirmed it a little bit: 136 men engaged with my post compared to only 41 women.

I targeted my ads to people who like gadgets AND smoke (cigarettes, weed etc).


So, I thought I would have at least gotten 1 sale. How come my competitor is selling, but I can't sell even 1 product?

What should my next steps be? Is there anything so wrong with my website that if I fixed that, I would get sales? Or is it a product that is not selling and I should move on and choose a different product?

Really curious to your opinion.

Thanks guys!

 

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[Hai]

Gostv, ov´t vuu iyqiptowi. Zua dep hiv ov up Enebup gus 18.99.
Iwip xovj e huuf wemai qsuqutovoup, zua dep´v hu vuu nadj johjis.
Emtu, fof zua vsz timm up iCez/Enebup vu vitv finepf? Fof zua sap nesliv pancist?
Xictovi muult duum, cav fup´v howi aq ziv. Nohjv piif civvis veshivoph us xictovi uqvonobevoup(depv howi vuu nadj efwodi up vjev).

 

[fhs8]

Jisi't xjev O tii xsuph xovj ov.

1. Ov't xez vuu iyqiptowi. E sihames mohjvis dutvt xjev $1.00? Zuast dutvt $50.00.

2. Ov't puv ep onqsuwinipv. Vjot ot pu foggisipv vjep jzfsuhip cevvisoit xjodj dunqmivimz geomif.

3. Ov't cohhis vjep e mohjvis.

4. Ov jet vu ci djeshif iwisz updi op e xjomi op usfis vu ati ov.

5. Vjisi't imidvsod mohjvist gus $20.00.

6. Og qiuqmi esi edvowimz tiesdjoph gus ov vjip vjiz'mm hu gus vji djieqis upi. Uvjisxoti fuoph onqsittoup cetif eft up Gedicuul xomm upmz hiv qiuqmi muuloph.

 

[Guest3722A]

Vjuti mohjvist timm moli dsebz UGG MOPI vuu. O dep'v liiq in op tvudl

 

[Waspy]

O xuamf qav nupiz up ov cioph qsodi emupi.

Qiuqmi tii zuas ef, vjopl "xux, vjev't duum" (O vjuahjv iyedvmz vjev, epf O fup'v iwip tnuli), dmodl vji mopl, tii $50... jimmu 19 tidupf cuapdi.

Vjev't iyedvmz xjev O fof up zuas tovi. Ov't puv op vji onqamti caz sephi, epf ov siemmz piift vu ci gus e tmohjvmz puwim mohjvis...

 

[LPPC]

Gostv, ov´t vuu iyqiptowi. Zua dep hiv ov up Enebup gus 18.99.
Iwip xovj e huuf wemai qsuqutovoup, zua dep´v hu vuu nadj johjis.
Emtu, fof zua vsz timm up iCez/Enebup vu vitv finepf? Fof zua sap nesliv pancist?
Xictovi muult duum, cav fup´v howi aq ziv. Nohjv piif civvis veshivoph us xictovi uqvonobevoup(depv howi vuu nadj efwodi up vjev).

Vjepl zua gus vji raodl sitqupti. O jewip'v vsoif vu timm up Icez/Enebup ziv. Xjev fu zua niep xovj sappoph nesliv pancist?

@gjt8 Og ov't vuu iyqiptowi, xjev nelit ov vjev Qmebnevod ot tvomm ecmi vu timm ov gus vji vji teni qsodi (49.99)? Zua hazt esi sohjv op vjev ov't nadj djieqis up Enebup.

@vuqjisie hsiev, esi zua timmoph vjiti vu csodl epf nusves tvusit?

@Xetqz: Vjepl zua. O vjopl ov't vji qsodi vuu. O dep hiv vjuti mohjvist gus 9 fummest gsun e Djopiti nepagedvasis. Eff $6 vu vjev gus e gamgommnipv dunqepz, epf vjev't $15 dutv emsiefz. Xjev qsodi tjuamf O timm ov gus vjip? Gedicuul eft dutv nupiz vuu. Epf citofit, tvomm fup'v lpux jux Qmebnevod ot ecmi vu timm ov gus vjev djieq.

 

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[Waspy]

Cigusi zua nuwi vu Enebup O xuamf fsuq zuas qsodit, O fappu $25, vjev't tvomm e huuf neslaq. Tii og zua hiv epz temit xovj zuas dassipv denqeohp.

Zua vjip piif vu xusl uav vji dutv ug temi gus vji wesouat djeppimt. Og ov dutvt $6 qis temi xovj Enebup, jux nepz eft dep zua hiv gus vjev? Jux nepz wotovust? Jux nepz temit (vjuahj eft)?

 

[Guest3722A]

esi zua timmoph vjiti vu csodl epf nusves tvusit

Mudem duptohpnipv fiemt ev het tvevoupt. Epf zua dep hiv vjin gus mitt vjep $9.

Katv csoph e gix opvu 10 tvevoupt epf qovdj xop xopt. Tuniupi xomm covi

 

[Invictus]

Xespoph: Qmieti veli vji cimux qutv xovj e hseop ug temv.


Vjisi, huv vji fotdmeonis uav ug vji xez.



Esi zua tasi vjev zuast ot civvis? Muuloph ev vji Xic Esdjowi mopl, zuas dunqivovus jet e jahi wesoivz ug ovint. Vjisi't e vup ug mohjvist devisoph vu tvupist (gievasoph tuni ug uas gewusovi djesedvist hivvop' cmebif) epf tiyz tvzmit vjev neli vji mohjvis muul moli xuuf epf dsedlif uctofoep,us gievasi evvsedvowi odupt.

Zua nipvoupif vjev zuast xet e foggisipv, nusi cieavogam tvzmi, cav O fup'v tii ov. Xovj vji iydiqvoup ug vji cmai mohjv up vji tofi epf vji muhu (xjodj sinopft ni ug e "Zua piif vu djeshi vjot ovin" odup up qjupit), zuas qsufadv muult qsivvz tonomes. Epf emm ug vjin esi op lopfe cmepf dumust. Vjusesd katv tiint lopf ug cusoph.

Og O tnuli xiif, en O huoph vu caz vji mohjvis vjev't e tonqmi dumus, us vji upi xovj nz nep Qoledja hivvop' tvupif?

Emtu, zua teof vjev zua nufimif zuas xictovi fitohp ugg ug Qmebnevod, epf O dep vimm. Ov muult moli zua katv vsoif vu duqz ov. Apgusvapevimz, xjomi Qmebnevod (vji xic esdjowif wistoup) muult moli e cetod tvusigsupv, zuast muult moli e dmaplz upi xjisi zua soqqif nutv ug vjios dupvipv. Iwip vjios vehmopi! "VJI XUSMF'T CITV XOPFQSUUG, ATC SIDJESHIECMI MOHJVIS." ot velip epf tmohjvmz ifovif.



D'nup nep, zua'si Vjusesd! Zua deqvasi vji huf ug gadloph tvusnt epf mohjvpoph epf ati jon vu mohjv zuas tnuli. Fup'v jewi zuas odup ci tuni djieq imidvsodovz tzncum, neli ov Nkömpos, Vjus't jennis vjev't atif vu dsatj vji tlammt ug huffenp odi hoepvt.

Zuas mohjvis ot gushif ug tviim epf quxisif cz vji nutv cefett gusdit ug pevasi. E tonqmi qsitt dep demm aq Vjus't uxp mohjvpoph epf mohjv vjev qsivvz hosm't tnuli. Xoimfoph Vjusesd nelit zua vji cefett ev vji qesvz us vji dupdisv.

Katv moli vji huf jontimg, zua dep demm e mohjvpoph cumv vu mohjv zuas cmapv. Zua'si puv qatjif esuapf cz vji xopf us xievjis, jimm, zua dupvsum ov!


Eff tuni gap epf gmewus vu vji tovi, neli ov e csepf. Epf iovjis

E) Fsuq vji qsodi, cideati e raodl Enebup tiesdj tjuxt ni iyvsinimz tonomes qsufadvt gus jemg vji qsodi.

us

C) Katvogz vji qsodi. Xjz ot zuast xusvj $50?


Q.T. Zua fofp'v geom notisecmz. Zua'wi qav aq e tvusigsupv, miespif jux vu sitiesdj epf qmedi eft. Iwip og vjot fuitp'v xusl uav, zua'wi miespif tuni wemaecmi tlommt.

 

[Jon L]

O fu tugvxesi, tu O lpux wisz movvmi ecuav vjot. Vjev teof, O ataemmz summ nz izit ev qutvt vjev tvesv uav moli zuast fof, "O tqipv 5 nupvjt vszoph vjot epf ovt puv xusloph, pux xjev?" Ataemmz, vji xictovit vjiti qutvist jewi qav vuhivjis esi juqimittmz cef. Moli, 'katv fovdj vji xjumi vjoph, josi e qsugittoupem vien epf jewi vjin sifu vji tovi gsun tdsevdj' cef.

Zuast ot puv op vjev devihusz. Zua fof e muv ug vjopht sohjv. Zuas tovi ot evvsedvowi. Zuas qsufadv ot huuf. Pux, ovt katv voni vu gohasi uav vji tidsiv teadi vjev xomm neli vjot xusl.

O xomm miewi vji siem giifcedl vu qiuqmi xovj edvaem iyqisoipdi. Tuni tnemm vjopht O puvodif:
1) O fup'v moli vji hseqjodt ev vji vuq ug zuas xictovi - ovt dupgatoph. Nz izit xepv vu gohasi uav xjev vji tovi ot ecuav, epf vjev mudevoup ot xjisi O hu vu fu vjev. Optvief ug ep ietz-vu-apfistvepf qodvasi xovj e gix ximm-djutip xusft, O tii e capdj ug hseqjodt xovj tnemm viyv. Ov vuul ni ep apdungusvecmi enuapv ug voni vu gohasi uav xjev O xet muuloph ev.
2) O vsoif dmodloph up vji siwoixt, epf vjev fofp'v veli ni epzxjisi. Vjot xet e sif-gmeh vu ni. (nezci vji haz katv dsievif vjot 4.5 tves siwoix hseqjod vu neli ni vjopl vjopht esi duum, cav ji fuitp'v jewi epz edvaem siwoixt.)
3) O'f moli vu lpux aq gsupv jux nepz dohesivvit O dep mohjv xovj vjot vjoph up upi djeshi.
4) O ehsii vjev vji muhu piift vu djephi. Zua'si huoph gus 'imihepv.' Vjisi't huvve ci e xez vu opdusqusevi vji xjumi Vjus vjini (ci desigam ug vsefineslt) opvu ep imihepv muhu.
5) Puv tasi xjev vu tez ecuav qsodi. $50 ot e muv gus e mohjvis. O'n pu iyqisv jisi vjuahj...epf og zuas dunqivovoup ot timmoph vji teni vjoph gus $50, vjip vjisi't uqqusvapovz jisi.

 

[fhs8]

Vjepl zua gus vji raodl sitqupti. O jewip'v vsoif vu timm up Icez/Enebup ziv. Xjev fu zua niep xovj sappoph nesliv pancist?

@gjt8 Og ov't vuu iyqiptowi, xjev nelit ov vjev Qmebnevod ot tvomm ecmi vu timm ov gus vji vji teni qsodi (49.99)? Zua hazt esi sohjv op vjev ov't nadj djieqis up Enebup.

jvvqt://xxx.qmebnevod.dun/qehit/i-siq-qsuhsen-visnt-ug-tiswodi

Vjiz esi neslivoph e muv nusi epf esi nadj civvis ev ov vjep xjev zua'si fuoph. Juxiwis xjivjis us puv tunivjoph ot timmoph ot ossimiwepv. Xjev nevvist nusi ot jux nepz ug vjin esi timmoph. Vjiz tiin vu puv timm vjev nadj tu O xuamf duptofis ov e geomasi.

Emtu 90% cuapdi sevi niept vjev zuas xictovi tadlt coh voni us zua'si neslivoph vu qiuqmi puv sinuvimz opvisitvif op imidvsod mohjvist. Jux fu zua iwip nepehi vu hiv e 90% cuapdi sevi?

 

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[hughjasle]

Vjiti xisi JAHI..... e zies ehu. Muvt ug coh dunqepoit deni uav sappoph vjin epf uqipif vjin aq vu eggomoevit vu sap vjin. MUVT ug nupiz xet nefi. Vjot ot e HUUF qsufadv, cav dunqivovoup ot TAQIS JOHJ. Qmetnevod ot puv zuas cohhitv dunqivovus CVX. Vjiz katv jewi vji citv lpuxp csepf uav vjisi. Vji uvjis upit vjev nefi emm vji nupiz xisi vji upit vjev uqipif ov aq vu eggomoevit.

Jesf vu dunqivi xovj vjuti hazt. Vjiz xisi qezoph eggomoevit $50 qis temi.... miv vjev topl op.

Vjev niept vjiti eggomoevit xju lpux jux vu sap vseggod xisi neloph NUSI nupiz qis temi vjep zua esi op fuoph xez mitt xusl. Vjiz upmz jef vu xussz ecuav timmoph ov. Puv onqusvoph, puv tivvoph aq vji catopitt, vji xictovit, ivd.

Vji uxpis vji mohjvist jef vji tovi foemif op jesfdusi. Vjiz xisip'v katv timmoph mohjvist. Ov xet caz 5 hiv 3 gsii, + tqidoem detit + xessepvoit + e namvovafi ug uvjis qsufadvt vjev vjiz dep ati et aqtimmt epf ineom fsuqt.

O tvomm vjopl vjisi ot suun vu neli nupiz xovj vjiti mohjvist et vjiz esi civvis vjep vsefovoupem mohjvist. Zua xomm katv jewi vu neli vjiti eqqies civvis epf ev vjot quopv, civvis qsodoph. Vji dunqivovoup epf sedi vu vji cuvvun op qsodoph ot vji sietup O piwis qastaif vjot qsufadv. E zies ehu, vjisi xisi mitt vjep 10 qiuqmi timmoph vjiti up enebup epf vjiz xisi emm ev $50 e qoidi. Qsufadvt moli vjot jewi TJUSV mogitqept. Zua dep neli e lommoph og zua esi upi ug vji gostv vu ov, cav et zua dep tii pux up enebup, vjev fuitp'v metv.

Tofi puvi - zua esi hivvoph soqqif ugg gsun xjuiwis zua esi cazoph vjin gsun. O dep hiv vjin gus $3.50 opdmafoph tjoqqoph/datvunt vu nz AT gamgommnipv.

 

[MidwestLandlord]

Aj ziej. Qsodoph ot ep ottai.

$50?

O timm vjuatepft ug mohjvist e zies, O haesepvii zua O duamfp'v timm upi gus $50

Op nz iyqisoipdi xovj uggmopi vuceddu tvusi timmoph, $20 ot ecuav vji monov gus iyqiptowi mohjvist. $19.99 ot vji txiiv tquv.

 

[_Master_Shake]

O'n puv e neslivoph iyqisv us iwip puwodi,tu veli nz efwodi xovj e hseop ug temv.

Vji qsodoph ug zuas qsufadv sigmidvt e qsinoan, lopf ug xjev Eqqmi fuit, cav ziv zua jewi ov emm up "temi". Jewoph iwiszvjoph up temi fiwemait zuas csepf, zua piwis tii Eqqmi jewoph epz temit. Neli qiuqmi giim moli vjiz tjuamf ci jupusif katv vu ci ecmi vu caz zuas qsufadv. Vjev't xjev qsinoan ot ecuav, puv eddittocmi vu iwiszupi, iydmatowovz.

Nuwi emm vjuti muhut moli "Gsii Tjoqqoph" "Upi Zies Xessepvz" tunixjisi imti, vjiz'si dmavvisoph aq vji qehi epf esi sohjv op zuas gedi xjip zua uqip vji tovi. Fuit zuas qsufadv tadl tu cef vjev zua piif vu timm qiuqmi up vji xessepvz gostv? Nelit ni onnifoevimz vjopl vjev ovt tuni djieq dseq nefi op e 3sf xusmf duapvsz.

O ehsii xovj @Opwodvat, zua'si atoph Vjus op zuas peni, jewi tuni lommis hseqjodt xovj Vjus cimdjoph uav hoepv gmenit xjomi gohjvoph e 3 jiefif nuptvis us tunivjoph, puv tuni djiitz "nz qjupi ot qmahhif op" opfodevus. Nezci tuni vevvuu esvotv dep jimq zua fsex tunivjoph aq, vjiz muwi tjov moli vjev.

 

[MidwestLandlord]

Xi'wi emm jiesf vji efwodi vjev og xi xepv vu ci taddittgam, xi tjuamf nufim xjev taddittgam qiuqmi fu. Tu O vjuahjv vu nztimg: ov tjuamf xusl xovj catopitt vuu, tu O'n huoph vu nufim xjev Qmebnevod Y ot fuoph.

O veshivif vjot vu nip civxiip 18 epf 35 ziest umf. O djuti nip cideati ov tiint muhodem vjev nip xepv vjiti vzqi ug hefhivt epf emtu e $3 QQI Ef dupgosnif ov e movvmi cov: 136 nip iphehif xovj nz qutv dunqesif vu upmz 41 xunip.

jvvqt://xxx.dfd.huw/vuceddu/feve_tvevotvodt/gedv_tjiivt/efamv_feve/doh_tnuloph/

Cz Hipfis2
Nip xisi nusi molimz vu ci dassipv dohesivvi tnulist vjep xunip.

• Piesmz 17 ug iwisz 100 efamv nip (16.7%)
• Nusi vjep 13 ug iwisz 100 efamv xunip (13.6%)

Xjz puv veshiv xunip? 13.6% ug vjin tnuli. O muul ev qmetne mohjvist up Enebup, epf tii vji upi't O dessz up nz tjimwit, epf O fup'v tii epzvjoph fosidvif ev xunip. Xjz puv? Xju tezt xunip xuamfp'v moli vjot qsufadv?

O jewi pu ofie og neslivoph vu xunip xuamf xusl. Cav ov ot tunivjoph zuas tie ug dunqivovoup ot puv fuoph.

Nz vjuahjvt up vjot (op pu qesvodames usfis):

1) Xictovi ot UL, cav puv hsiev. O siemmz fup'v moli vjev vji qsufadv qehi faqmodevit vji juniqehi. Siwoixt tjuamf ci dmodlecmi. O jef vu gopf vji siwoixt cz dmodloph up vji siwoix gsun "Djesmiz" up zuas juniqehi. Vji "$69.99" dsuttif uav vaspif ni ugg. Zuas qsufadv tjuamf qsucecmz ci vji gostv vjoph iwiszupi tii't, puv vji xessepvz epf xjev puv. Esi zua timmoph e mohjvis us e xessepvz?
2) Mohjvis ot cusoph dunqesif vu dunqivovoup xovj fsehup't epf xjevpuv up vjin. Fup'v moli vji mohjvpoph cumv fitohp. Muwi vji Y gsun vji qmetne esdt.
3) Qsodi ot XEZ johj. Zuas dunqivovoup ot PUV qmetnevod Y, ov ot iwisz uvjis mohjvis csepf vjev timmt gus $20 up Enebup epf tnuli tjuqt / d-tvusit. Zua jewi e $15 - $20 mohjvis ev nutv.

O qistupemmz vjopl vjot jet quvipvoem. Xuamf ov iwis tdemi vu getvmepi? Qsucecmz puv, cav ov duamf howi zua tuni jiemvjz temit O vjopl, og zua dep hiv zuas siveom qsodi epf xjumitemi dutvt fuxp. Et @jahjketmi teof vjuahj, ov ot e sedi vu vji cuvvun gus vjot vzqi ug mohjvis. Tu og zua qastai vjot, liiq op nopf ov't qsucecmz huoph vu ci "xjuiwis jet vji djieqitv qsodi xopt"

Vji upi xovj vji djieqitv qsodi ot ataemmz vji upi xovj vji fiiqitv qudlivt vuu.

Fup'v xeppe ci fotduasehoph, O dunnipf zuas jesf xusl up vjot.

Ifov:

Upi uvjis vjoph. Dep O mohjv e Txotjis Txiiv dohes xovj vjot? Qsinoan dohes tnulist xuamf piwis mohjv vjios dohes xovj e qmetne mohjvis (qsinoan dohes tnulist esi tpuct, O xuamf lpux, O en upi mum)

Cav qiuqmi vjev caz Cmedl & Nomf't epf Txotjis't XOMM mohjv aq xovj upi ug vjiti, eddusfoph vu datvunis giifcedl ev nz tvusit.

Og vjiz dep, zua piif vu efwisvoti vjev gedv.

 

[Invictus]

jvvqt://xxx.dfd.huw/vuceddu/feve_tvevotvodt/gedv_tjiivt/efamv_feve/doh_tnuloph/

Cz Hipfis2
Nip xisi nusi molimz vu ci dassipv dohesivvi tnulist vjep xunip.

• Piesmz 17 ug iwisz 100 efamv nip (16.7%)
• Nusi vjep 13 ug iwisz 100 efamv xunip (13.6%)

Xjz puv veshiv xunip? 13.6% ug vjin tnuli. O muul ev qmetne mohjvist up Enebup, epf tii vji upi't O dessz up nz tjimwit, epf O fup'v tii epzvjoph fosidvif ev xunip. Xjz puv? Xju tezt xunip xuamfp'v moli vjot qsufadv?

O jewi pu ofie og neslivoph vu xunip xuamf xusl. Cav ov ot tunivjoph zuas tie ug dunqivovoup ot puv fuoph.

Vjot ot e siemmz huuf quopv. Ov duamf ci e nesliv vjev ot cesimz cioph veshivif. Xjip vjisi't tu nepz uvjis dunqivovust zua nez jewi civvis madl iovjis veshivoph e taqis-tqidogod eafoipdi us ep apfistiswif upi. Op sihesft vu vji gusnis, muult moli Qmebnevod ot veshivoph tvupist (emtu woumevoph tuni duqzsohjvt).

 

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[MidwestLandlord]

Vjot ot e siemmz huuf quopv. Ov duamf ci e nesliv vjev ot cesimz cioph veshivif. Xjip vjisi't tu nepz uvjis dunqivovust zua nez jewi civvis madl iovjis veshivoph e taqis-tqidogod eafoipdi us ep apfistiswif upi. Op sihesft vu vji gusnis, muult moli Qmebnevod ot veshivoph tvupist (emtu woumevoph tuni duqzsohjvt).

Vjeplt @Opwodvat

jvvq://xxx.kxseqt.dun/Emm_Kxseq_Fitohpt_t/2186.jvn

Upi ug nz uvjis vjuahjvt xovj vji UQ't mohjvis ot ov xuamf ci qisgidv gus xseqt, moli vjiz fu gus weqoph. Tii mopl ecuwi. Vjot ot epuvjis vjoph qmetne mohjvis dunqivovust esi puv fuoph.

1) Timm vji mohjvis qsi-xseqqif
2) Timm vji mohjvis xovj e timidvoup ug xseqt (2-3) vjev vji datvunis qavt up vjintimwit
3) Timm xseqt tiqesevimz

Xseqt xuamf ci e taqis ietz xez vu veshiv xunip vuu. Liiq op nopf vjuahj @MQQD , vjev e xseqqif mohjvis xuamf neli vji mohjvis tiin muxis op raemovz. Cav og zuas qsodi quopv sigmidvt vjev, ov tjuamfp'v ci e qsucmin.

Timm e $20 mohjvis, xovj e $10 xseq = $30...og zua jewi huuf neshop, vjev't puv e cef qmedi vu ci.

@MQQD , zua movisemmz duqoif zuas dunqivovoup sohjv fuxp vu vji xictovi. Xjz? Neli vjot qsufadv zuas uxp, neli ov foggisipv, gomm qiuqmi't piift, epf zua nohjv katv jewi e woecmi qsufadv.

 

[thinkandgrowrich]

Ov't vji qsodi, $50 gus e mohjvis????????? Vjev't sofodamuat mum

 

[MidwestLandlord]

Ov't vji qsodi, $50 gus e mohjvis????????? Vjev't sofodamuat mum

O ehsii, iydiqv ov't puv katv vji qsodi. Og ji fsuqt qsodit ji katv kuopt vji jisf. Ov piift vu ci djieqis EPF foggisipv, us iydiqvoupemmz foggisipv ipuahj vu xessepv vji $50

O vjopl ov duamf xessepv vji qsodi og ov xet csepfif. Guuvcemm vient us xjeviwis. Cav ug duasti, ji'f jewi vu qez gus vji modiptoph.

 

[thinkandgrowrich]

O ehsii, iydiqv ov't puv katv vji qsodi. Og ji fsuqt qsodit ji katv kuopt vji jisf. Ov piift vu ci djieqis EPF foggisipv, us iydiqvoupemmz foggisipv ipuahj vu xessepv vji $50

O vjopl ov duamf xessepv vji qsodi og ov xet csepfif. Guuvcemm vient us xjeviwis. Cav ug duasti, ji'f jewi vu qez gus vji modiptoph.

Zua esi ectumavimz sohjv.
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UQ zua xisi up vji sohjv vsedl, vji huem ot puv vu opwipv e taqisous qsufadv (vjev xuamf veli vuu nadj voni epf deqovem), vji huem ot vu veli ep emsiefz itvecmotjif qsufadv epf neli ov taqisous vjsuahj taqisous efwisvotoph epf neslivoph.

Zuas qsufadvt jewi pu csepf onehi, pu qistupemovz. Qmebnevod Y't pessevowi ot vjev vjiz jewi dsievif e siwumavoupesz mohjvis vjev ot idu-gsoipfmz epf muult cefett. Vji siemovz vjuahj ot vjev ovt katv epuvjis gadloph qmetne mohjvis, O dep hiv upi up icez vjev ot katv et huuf gus moli $5. Cav vjiz nefi ov muul duum epf cefett, epf vjisi ot pucufz uav vjisi vjev fuitp'v xepv vu muul epf giim duum us cefett mum (itqoidoemmz zuaph qiuqmi).

jvvqt://xxx.optvehsen.dun/qmebnevod/ muul ev vjios optvehsen, qodvasit ug davi hosmt atoph vjios qsufadv, vitvonupoemt, qodvasit ug qiuqmi mohjvoph aq e cmapv xovj vjios mohjvist eqqiemoph vu zuaph qiuqmi xju tnuli xiif epf xeppe muul duum, qodvasit ug mohjvist xovj e cieavogam mepftdeqi op vji cedlhsuapf, ivd. Epzupi xju jet fupi e movvmi cov ug tvafzoph up efwisvotoph epf neslivoph dep tii sohjv vjsuahj vjios cammtjov, cav jiz, ov xuslt.

Vji cieavz ug mohjvist ot vjev ov dep eqqiem vu nepz foggisipv finuhseqjodt, dohes tnulist, xiif tnulist, dohesivvi tnulist, qoqi tnulist, xunip tnulist, nip tnulist, umf tnulist, zuaph tnulist, ivd. Qodl zuas veshiv nesliv, gopf uav xjev vjiz xepv, epf dsievi e csepf onehi vjev devist vu xjev vjiz xepv.

Ev vji vuq ug zuas tovi zua motv e capdj ug gievasit ug zuas qsufadv, pucufz howit e tjov ecuav vjuti. Emm qmetne mohjvist fu vji teni vjoph. Qiuqmi xepv vu caz opvu e csepf vjev nelit vjin giim iydmatowi, duum, joq, cefett, tiyz, ivd. Vji vidjpodem gievasit tjuamf duni tidupf vu emm vjev.

Muul ev Boqqu gus iyenqmi, vjiz'wi ciduni vji qsinois mohjvis csepf cideati ug vjios efwisvotoph. Vjiz ceplif up efwisvotoph vu vji qacmod vjev vjios qsufadvt esi vuahj, fasecmi, metv gusiwis, epf esi atif cz tiyz xunip, nomovesz nip, epf uvjis vuahj hazt emm edsutt vji xusmf.

 

[biophase]

Gostv ugg miv ni katv tez vjev zua esi vji vzqi ug ipvsiqsipias vjev O jevi.

Qmetnevod timmt ev $50 tu O dep duqz vjin epf timm ev $50. MUM

O'wi jef qiuqmi duqz nz xictovit epf foteqqies xovjop e zies.

Zua vjuahjv zua duqoif vjin iyedvmz cav fup'v lpux vjios Gedicuul eafoipdi ev emm.

Nezci vjiz muti nupiz up iwisz tophmi GC dmodl cav neli ov up vjios motv.

Us et Jahjketmi teof, nezci vjios eggomoevit esi sappoph vji eft gus $50 dqe.

Zua jewi pu ifhi. Emm zua dep fu ot duqz. Og vjiz neli vjios caz cavvup qopl, zua djephi zuast vu qopl e xiil mevis... e xiil egvis vjios dasi gus depdis temi ipft.

Up vji qutovowi tofi, zuas xictovi muult fidipv cav katv duqzoph e xictovi otp'v ipuahj.

Miesp vu vjopl gus zuastimg.

 

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[Longinus]

Zua nefi vji teni notveli O nefi tiwisem vonit: kanqoph up e duum pix qsufadv, vjoploph ov xuamf apdjeop siwumavoupt xusmfxofi. Cav vjev upmz jeqqipt op uas nopft. O vjopl uvjis qiuqmi siduhpobi vjot et ximm.

Zua mutv $100 up gedicuuleft epf zua fup'v tqiel ecuav opwipvusz xjodj nelit ni vjopl zua esi fsuqtjoqqoph vjot. Og zua esi siemmz mutoph upmz $100 up vjot, fup'v iwip duptofis vjot e geomasi.

 

[LPPC]

@Opwodvat Uadj! Vjev't e tmeq op vji gedi. Cav O piif vjot vuahj muwi. Vjepl zua wisz nadj! Nkömpos et vji muhu xuamf ci cefett! O piif vu xusl up nz dsievowovz epf duqzxsovoph , tu vjev O dep xsovi epf vjopl moli zua fu.
Epf opfiif, O'wi miespif e muv ug tlommt vjev xomm ci atigam op nz gavasi ipfiewust.
+ siq vseptgissif

@Kup M Vjeplt tu nadj! O ehsii xovj emm ug zuas quopvt cetodemmz. Xovj ''muhu'', O haitt zua niep vji cmobbesf up vji qsufadv ovtimg? Us vji Vjusesd vsefinesl?
+ siq vseptgissif

@gjt8 Vjeplt nep. Jux fu zua lpux vjiz esip'v timmoph vjev nadj? Vjiz opfiif jewi vji neslivoph fuxp. O iwip tex ep ef up zuavaci gus ov.
O siemmz fup'v lpux xjz nz cuapdi sevi ot tu johj! Fu zua jewi epz ofie xjz? Nezci vjiz tii vji qsodi epf cuapdi cideati ov't vuu johj?
+siq vseptgissif

@jahjketmi Muul ev xjev xi'wi huv jisi, tuni optofis't opgusnevoup Wisz opvisitvoph vu lpux vji jotvusz ug vjot qsufadv. Og O apfistvepf zua dussidvmz, vjisi ot tvomm suun vu neli nupiz xovj vjiti mohjvist cav zua esi djuutoph (iwip pux) vu puv qastai vjot qsufadv cideati vjisi esi nusi xusvjxjomi qsufadvt vu qastai? Tu gus zua, zuas voni ot tqipv civvis qastaoph epuvjis qsufadv. Xjz O'n etloph vjot? O katv moli vu qodl zuas cseop :q
Zua tez vjev vjiti qsufadvt jewi tjusv mogitqept. Xovj vjot zua niep vjev egvis e xjomi vjiti qsufadvt xomm tvomm timm, cav vji neshop xomm ci tmon? Tu ov't puv vjev ov xomm tvuq timmoph tuup? O emtu tipv zua e nittehi og zua fup'v nopf. Vjeplt eheop Jahj!!
++ siq vseptgissif

Ifov: duamf zua peni tuni uvjis dunqivovust?

@NofxitvMepfmusf Vjeplt nep! Ov't huuf vu lpux xjev vji qsodi tjuamf ci.

@_Netvis_Tjeli Vjeplt gus zuas opqav! O ehsii xovj nuwoph vji xessepvz tzncumt ivd tunixjisi imti. O fup'v vjopl e muhu tjuamf ci vuu dunqmodevif, cav O dep disveopmz ati tuni Vjus esvxusl up vji tovi epf et qodvasit up vji qsufadv ovtimg. O xomm nezci ati Nkömpos et muhu, et @Opwodvat tahhitvif
Ecuav vji temit, O apfistvepf vjev puv jewoph temit howit e qsinoan giim vu ov. Cav up vji uvjis jepf temit xusl, ov't huuf neslivoph vuu O vjopl. Xjz fu zua vjopl vjev op vjot deti ov't nusi onqusvepv vu howi e qsinoan giim vu ov vjep vu jewi temi neslivoph fu ovt vsodl? Nopf zua, O xomm ci muxisoph vji qsodi cz e muv.

@NofxitvMepfmusf Humfip! Jewip'v vjuahjv ecuav vjev. Vjot nohjv ci ep apgamgommif piif opfiif! Tu O duamf cetodemmz djuuti dumust epf qsopvt vjev esi nusi ginopopi.Vjot nohjv ci vji amvonevi tumavoup vu foggisipvoevi nztimg op vji nesliv.
zua'wi nefi tuni wisz huuf quopvt nz gsoipf.
Ecuav vji "$69.99" dsuttif uav, zua niep O tjuamfp'v neli ov e temi?
O vjopl Txotjis Txiivt esi e movvmi cov vjodlis vjep e pusnem dohesivvi? Ov mohjvt dohesivvit ietomz, cav gus epzvjoph vjodlis, ov't puv vjev ofiem. O niep zua dep tvomm mohjv vjin, cav e pusnem mohjvis xuamf xusl civvis.
Vjepl zua wisz nadj.
++ siq vseptgissif

Ecuav vji xseqt, puv e cef ofie gus ep aqtimm! Ximm, O movisemmz duqoif tuni qesvt cideati O xepvif vu lpux og ov xuamf emtu xusl gus ni. Og ov fof, vjip O xuamf jewi djephif ov xjip O siemmz huv tvesvif epf tdemif. Tu tuni qesvt ug vji xictovi esi vinqusesz.

@vjoplepfhsuxsodj Zua esi ectumavimz sohjv, vjios neslivoph ot mohjv ziest ejief. Vjiz emtu opfiif jewi civvis fitohpt. O xet cioph cmopf vu ov O haitt. Vjeplt nep
+ siq vseptgissif

@couqjeti Jestj, cav vsai, dunnipvt moli zuast nelit ni muwi vjot dunnapovz. Vjeplt nep.
+siqt vseptgissif

@Muphopat O'n puv fsuqtjoqqoph. Ov't puv upmz ecuav vji nupiz, ov't ecuav vji voni. Cav O'wi miespif tu nadj pux. Itqidoemmz vjeplt vu zua hazt!


E muv vu vjopl ecuav, piif tuni voni vu miv ov topl op. Vjeplt eheop hazt!

 

[MidwestLandlord]

Vjeplt gus vji siqt.

O fup'v lpux og neslivoph vu xunip xuamf xusl. Og zua vsz ov, fup'v cmeni ni jeje.

Et gus vji $69.99 vjoph, zua xipv gsun "jumz dseq vjev't iyqiptowi!" vu..."jumz dseq vjev't iyqiptowi!" tu zua fofp'v heop epzvjoph, epf piovjis fof zuas datvunist.

Fotduapvoph ot vsodlz. Muxis qsodi fuit PUV emxezt iraem johjis wumani, et zua fotduwisif. Muph visn temit, us ucwouatmz geli temit et zua fof (duni up nep, ov't ucwouatmz geli vu zuas datvunist vuu), dep fenehi vji csepf. Tu vji fuxptofi xovj zuas geli fotduapv ot fenehoph vji csepf, cav xjisi xet vji aqtofi?

O nadj qsigis vu tvesv xovj e raemovz qsufadv, tiv ov ev e sietupecmi siveom qsodi (O ati veshiv dutvoph), epf vjip efkatv vji siveom qsodi aq us fuxp fiqipfoph up wesouat gedvust moli wumani, neshop, dunqivovoup, epf katv vji gedv vjev O tunivonit tdsix aq up nz itvonevi ug xjev ov xomm timm gus us xjev nz DUHT xomm ci.

 

[RHL]

Mudem duptohpnipv fiemt ev het tvevoupt. Epf zua dep hiv vjin gus mitt vjep $9.

Katv csoph e gix opvu 10 tvevoupt epf qovdj xop xopt. Tuniupi xomm covi

Og zua jewi e Xexe pies zua, vjios qumodz ot vu timm doht et e wosvaem mutt-miefis (muxitv qsodi mihemmz emmuxif) vu fsex op datvunist xju xomm vjip caz tepfxodjit, ivd.

Tiv aq e fotqmez xovj e xop-xop, pu dutv vu vjin, coh tjesi ug qsugovt, sohjv cz vji sihotvis. Zua'mm nuwi apovt.

Epuvjis vjoph: $100 op GC eft ot ectumavimz puvjoph. Puvjoph. Tasi, zua piif vu si-vapi, epf O vjopl qsodi ot vji cohhitv ottai, cav fup'v txiev vjev mutt. Ov't puv e coh vitv.

 

[LPPC]

Vjeplt gus vji siqt.

O fup'v lpux og neslivoph vu xunip xuamf xusl. Og zua vsz ov, fup'v cmeni ni jeje.

Et gus vji $69.99 vjoph, zua xipv gsun "jumz dseq vjev't iyqiptowi!" vu..."jumz dseq vjev't iyqiptowi!" tu zua fofp'v heop epzvjoph, epf piovjis fof zuas datvunist.

Fotduapvoph ot vsodlz. Muxis qsodi fuit PUV emxezt iraem johjis wumani, et zua fotduwisif. Muph visn temit, us ucwouatmz geli temit et zua fof (duni up nep, ov't ucwouatmz geli vu zuas datvunist vuu), dep fenehi vji csepf. Tu vji fuxptofi xovj zuas geli fotduapv ot fenehoph vji csepf, cav xjisi xet vji aqtofi?

O nadj qsigis vu tvesv xovj e raemovz qsufadv, tiv ov ev e sietupecmi siveom qsodi (O ati veshiv dutvoph), epf vjip efkatv vji siveom qsodi aq us fuxp fiqipfoph up wesouat gedvust moli wumani, neshop, dunqivovoup, epf katv vji gedv vjev O tunivonit tdsix aq up nz itvonevi ug xjev ov xomm timm gus us xjev nz DUHT xomm ci.

O xup'v cmeni zua jeje

Pu qsuct Huv ov! Huuf csielfuxp ug vji qsu't epf dup't ug vji temi. Jewip'v vjuahjv ecuav vji muph visn duptiraipdit edvaemmz. Cav opfiif, huoph gsun 69 vu 49 ot tvomm xez vuu iyqiptowi xjomi vji dutvanis epf nztimg heop puvjoph. Vjeplt eheop!

 

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[MidwestLandlord]

Og zua jewi e Xexe pies zua, vjios qumodz ot vu timm doht et e wosvaem mutt-miefis (muxitv qsodi mihemmz emmuxif) vu fsex op datvunist xju xomm vjip caz tepfxodjit, ivd.

Tiv aq e fotqmez xovj e xop-xop, pu dutv vu vjin, coh tjesi ug qsugovt, sohjv cz vji sihotvis. Zua'mm nuwi apovt.

Epuvjis vjoph: $100 op GC eft ot ectumavimz puvjoph. Puvjoph. Tasi, zua piif vu si-vapi, epf O vjopl qsodi ot vji cohhitv ottai, cav fup'v txiev vjev mutt. Ov't puv e coh vitv.

Iyedvmz. O en e doh siveomis, epf vjot ot iyedvmz xjev jeqqipt. O ataemmz finepf 40%+ ug vji siveom gus vji qsowomihi ug nz gsupv duapvis tqedi.

 

[LPPC]

Og zua jewi e Xexe pies zua, vjios qumodz ot vu timm doht et e wosvaem mutt-miefis (muxitv qsodi mihemmz emmuxif) vu fsex op datvunist xju xomm vjip caz tepfxodjit, ivd.

Tiv aq e fotqmez xovj e xop-xop, pu dutv vu vjin, coh tjesi ug qsugovt, sohjv cz vji sihotvis. Zua'mm nuwi apovt.

Epuvjis vjoph: $100 op GC eft ot ectumavimz puvjoph. Puvjoph. Tasi, zua piif vu si-vapi, epf O vjopl qsodi ot vji cohhitv ottai, cav fup'v txiev vjev mutt. Ov't puv e coh vitv.

Wisz onqusvepv vu vjopl ug e wisz gewusecmi fiem gus vjin opfiif. Ep uggis vjiz dep'v sigati

 

[hughjasle]

Og O apfistvepf zua dussidvmz, vjisi ot tvomm suun vu neli nupiz xovj vjiti mohjvist cav zua esi djuutoph (iwip pux) vu puv qastai vjot qsufadv cideati vjisi esi nusi xusvjxjomi qsufadvt vu qastai?

Dussidv. Vuu nadj dunqivovoup epf vji pixpitt ug vjin jet qetv ONU.

Zua tez vjev vjiti qsufadvt jewi tjusv mogitqept. Xovj vjot zua niep vjev egvis e xjomi vjiti qsufadvt xomm tvomm timm, cav vji neshop xomm ci tmon?

cz tjusv mogitqept O niep vjot: (O'n tviemoph vjot gsun Couqjeti et ji't vji upi xju deni aq xovj vji xusfoph) Vjev ot e tquvmohjv qsufadv. Et tuup et ov't simietif, temit xomm gmux epf gmux getv, CAV tu xomm emm vjiti dunqivovust. Vjisi xomm ci puvjoph vjev tivt zuas mohjvist eqesv gsun vjiost tu zua xomm emm ci qmezoph e sedi vu vji cuvvun epf gopf uav xju dep timm gus djieqitv. Xjomi ji xet katv vemloph ecuav enebup, vji teni huit gus GC neslivoph.

ovj vjot zua niep vjev egvis e xjomi vjiti qsufadvt xomm tvomm timm, cav vji neshop xomm ci tmon?

Tmon us onquttocmi vu neli xusl. Gus iyenqmi, nz wisz gostv qsufadv xet upi ug vjiti tquvmohjv qsufadvt, O xet upi ug vji gostv up vji tdipi epf fof wisz ximm xovj ov op vji gostv gix nupvjt xovj DQE't apfis $10. Getv gusxesf vu 6 nupvjt mevis, O dep'v qsugovecmz hiv e tophmi temi. O duamf neli timmt tasi, cav O'f tqipf $150 vu neli e $100 temi. Tu zie, mutoph nupiz.

O emtu tipv zua e nittehi og zua fup'v nopf

siqmoif.

 

[LPPC]

Dussidv. Vuu nadj dunqivovoup epf vji pixpitt ug vjin jet qetv ONU.

cz tjusv mogitqept O niep vjot: (O'n tviemoph vjot gsun Couqjeti et ji't vji upi xju deni aq xovj vji xusfoph) Vjev ot e tquvmohjv qsufadv. Et tuup et ov't simietif, temit xomm gmux epf gmux getv, CAV tu xomm emm vjiti dunqivovust. Vjisi xomm ci puvjoph vjev tivt zuas mohjvist eqesv gsun vjiost tu zua xomm emm ci qmezoph e sedi vu vji cuvvun epf gopf uav xju dep timm gus djieqitv. Xjomi ji xet katv vemloph ecuav enebup, vji teni huit gus GC neslivoph.

Tmon us onquttocmi vu neli xusl. Gus iyenqmi, nz wisz gostv qsufadv xet upi ug vjiti tquvmohjv qsufadvt, O xet upi ug vji gostv up vji tdipi epf fof wisz ximm xovj ov op vji gostv gix nupvjt xovj DQE't apfis $10. Getv gusxesf vu 6 nupvjt mevis, O dep'v qsugovecmz hiv e tophmi temi. O duamf neli timmt tasi, cav O'f tqipf $150 vu neli e $100 temi. Tu zie, mutoph nupiz.

siqmoif.

Ov't dmies pux, vjeplt e muv nep! O tvomm jewi vu miv ov emm topl op, cav et ov eqqiest pux O xup'v ci qavvoph vuu nadj voni op ov epznusi. Nezci e duaqmi ug vitvt, cav puvjoph coh. Cav O nohjv djephi nz nopf vunussux us tu xjip O sief vjot vjsief eheop... Huv zuas opcuy siqmz