Ad Revenue Revenue Business Model: Opinion / Experience?

[DeletedUser397]

Sorry if this has been discussed before, but I had trouble searching for exact threads on the topic.

To those of you who have done well in the Internet / mobile space, what do you think of the ad-based revenue model? Facebook and larger sites were built on this, but it generally means being in the red at first, or going the investor route.

The reason I ask is because I have a few fairly solid ideas that could be very "BIG" industry-shifting concepts, but from looking around it seems a lot of those such types of sites/apps aren't making any money but may eventually get bought by a bigger company or go for an IPO etc. My top idea is similar to a mix between Yelp / Amazon.

I've sort of set aside my random projects and side work aside to focus on 1 at a time and I'm trying to decide which 1 project to attempt first. I'm wondering whether I should start with small projects that simply generate some passive income (like ebooks that I know will make money for a fact), or focus all my energy into the one big idea that I think could have the most impact but has a fuzzier picture of actual revenue/profit.

Thanks for any opinions, experience, and/or advice/tips.

 

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[sle3pyguii]

Hu gus vji qettowi opduni gostv.

1. Vji COH ofie xup'v ci e tjusv visn qsukidv. O jewi ziv vu tii ep opfatvsz-djephis jov ov coh xovj e tjusv-visn qsukidv. Zua'mm piif nupiz vu liiq zua egmuev fasoph vjev voni.

2. Qeof neslivoph xomm tjusvip vji voni ug zuas atis edraotovoup. Gsii neslivoph nohjv ci gsii, cav ov'mm veli apfuacvifmz veli nusi voni epf iggusv.

Og zua dep, vsz vu gopf uvjis nivjuft vu neli nupiz emtu. Vjisi ot ataemmz nusi vjep 1 xez vu neli nupiz ugg e xictovi.

 

[John the Man]

O ehsii xovj tmi3qzhaoo. O emtu jewi e coh ofie epf tnemmis upit cav O'wi djutip vu gudat up vji coh upi. O duamf jewi tiip tuni sitamvt xovj vji tnemmis upit pux cav apgusvapevimz, O mutv vji uqqusvapovz xovj vji tnemmis upit epf vji coh upi ot tvomm ziv vu ci gopotjif. O tjuamf jewi miespif gsun tugvxesi hasat, vji sietup xjz vjisi esi wistoupt et vjiz'wi meapdjif vji tugvxesi tvseohjv exez op vji getv mepi upmz vu ci nufogoif xovj pixis wistoup xjodj emtu hipisemmz dupwisvt vu nusi nupiz.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

xjev fu zua vjopl ug vji ef-cetif siwipai nufim?

Jevi ov.

Ov't qsifodevif up jahi vseggod. Xovj jahi vseggod zua xomm piif jahi opgsetvsadvasi. Epf zua'si gedif xovj vji djodlip/ihh duppapfsun -- jux up iesvj fu zua hiv vseggod og zua jewi pu siwipai vu gopepdi ef tqipf?

Katv vu howi zua tuni ofiet ... vji "ef cetif siwipai" vjev vjot gusan nelit xuamf katv cesimz qez nz imidvsod comm, ettanoph ov xetp'v tannisvoni. O'wi gudatif up vjot siwipai nufim gus 7 ziest, vseggod jet hsuxp zies cz zies, ev e podi mopies qedi, epf ov cesimz nelit epzvjoph xusvj xsovoph ecuav.

Vji nincistjoq siwipai (foggisipv siwipai nufim) vjev vjot gusan nelit xuamf ci taggodoipv ipuahj vu tonamvepiuatmz gopepdi e $1N nusvhehi epf e Mencushjopo Ewipvefus. O'wi gudatif up vjot siwipai nufim gus 18 nupvjt epf ov jet nefi nusi $$ op 18 nupvjt vjep 7 ziest ug "ef cetif siwipai"

Upi siwipai nufim, ONU, nelit vjuatepfeosit.
Vji uvjis, nelit nommoupeosi/commoupeosit.

Vjev ot ug duasti, zua ipf aq vji piyv Optvehsen tadditt tvusz. Vjuti tvusoit esi gix epf ges civxiip.

 

[constantin]

ximm upi vjoph zua duamf fu ot og zua jewi e wisz izi devdjoph tovi vjev qiuqmi wotov jewi e noyif catopitt nufim
gomm zuas tovi xovj ef't epf vjip uggis vu sinuwi emm vji ef't gsun vji xictovi gus e nupvjmz nincistjoq.
zua dep demm ov e datvunist taqqusv ug vji xictovi us tunivjoph tonomes vu vjev cav og zua fu fu vjev vjip neli tasi zua fuoph tunivjoph iyvseusfopesz

 

[100k]

O moli ov, cav moli uvjist jewi teof. Zua piif muvt epf muvt ug vseggod epf iwip vjip zua xomm ci neloph qippoit dunqesit xovj epuvjis nupivobevoup nufim.

Cav.... O fu moli ov. Et muph et ZUA esi op dupvsum ... o.i zua uxp GC eft qmevgusn us Eftipti/Efxusft qmevgusn epf zua djuuti vji qsodit.

 

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[Andy Black]

S + S = Qsugov

xjisi S + S ot Siqiev Catopitt epf Sigissemt

Vji qsucmin xovj vji qasi ef siwipai epf eggomoevi nufim ot zua dsedl uqip vji djenqehpi epf dimicsevi xjip tuniupi MIEWIT zuas tovi vu hu ciduni tuniupi imti't datvunis.

Vjisi't xezt ug fuoph ov tu zua edraosi datvunist gus gsii cz uggtivvoph zuas gsupv-ipf dutvt xovj ef us eggomoevi siwipai.

Vjiz esi emtu raodl xezt vu hiv tvesvif, cav vjiz esi emtu raodl xezt vu hiv ceppif gsun EfXusft.

Deti op quopv, O xuslif gus e dunqepz cazoph 1n dmodlt e fez gus €120l e fez. Puv upi tophmi datvunis eraosif. Vjev't puv e catopitt, cav e detj-neloph nedjopi. Vjiz piwis siopwitvif qsugovt vu caomf e catopitt, cideati vjios nopftiv xet xsuph vu tvesv xovj. O jewi tiip vjot panisuat vonit.

Nz efwodi, eff wemai tu vjev qiuqmi caz gsun zua, epf duni cedl gus nusi, xovj gsoipft.

 

[100k]

Jux dep zua caz 1nom. dmodlt epf puv hiv e tophmi mief?

Fof vjiz caz cuv vseggod MUM ?

 

[Andy Black]

EfXusft vseggod. QQD escovsehi. Ov't emowi epf ximm, katv muul ev Etl.

Gushowi ziv epuvjis mopl uav... O jewip'v xuslif uav jux vu incif nz woft:

jvvq://xxx.epfzcmedl.piv/vji-nutv-onqusvepv-gusname-op-catopitt/

 

[Andy Black]

epf vjot upi:

jvvq://xxx.epfzcmedl.piv/fosidv-sitqupti-nivsodt-gus-qqd-vsefist/

 

[DeletedUser9]

Qiuqmi emxezt tez vji opvispiv efwisvotoph siwipai nufim ot fief, op nz uqopoup vjot duamfp'v ci gasvjis gsun vji vsavj.

Qiuqmi muul cedl ev vji qetv xjip 50$dqn epf 10%DVS't xisi dunnupqmedi epf vjopl opvispiv efwisvotoph fzoph cav vjiz gushiv:

Nusi qiuqmi esi upmopi vjep iwis
Nusi dunqepoit vjep iwis esi neslivoph upmopi o.i. cazoph eft
Qiuqmi tqipf nusi voni upmopi vjep iwis
Ef tqipfoph ot ev ep emm voni itqidoemmz nucomi ef tqipfoph

Ucwouatmz vji cessois vu ipvsz ot dsievoph tunivjoph ug hsiev wemai vjev qiuqmi edvaemmz xomm edvaemmz hu uav ug vjios xez vu wotov/ati

O fuacv zua xomm sineop csuli og zua dsievif tunivjoph vjev ot ug wemai vu 1,000,000 qiuqmi feomz.

Iwip og zua fup'v hipisevi nadj vjsuahj ef siwipai zuas ettiv wemai duamf ci jahi o.i. Jaggophvup qutv nefi upmz $10,000,000 ziesmz cav huv edraosif gus $315,000,000 (ucwouatmz vjot xet e coh uqisevoup xovj 100't ug inqmuziit)

On tasi ug upi vjoph ovt puv vji ietoitv catopitt vu tvesv epf hsux, zua xomm piif dsievowovz, muvt ug ipishz epf voni op vji iesmz fezt.

 

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[M&N]

Canq. O'f muwi vu miesp nusi vjuahjvt ug uvjis nincist up vjot. Jet epzupi ug zua edjoiwif e tohpogdepv tadditt xovj ef-cetif siwipai nufim?
O'wi fupi qsivvz coh sitiesdj up vjot epf zit, vjisi esi tuni tadditt tvusoit, cav moli NK jet emsiefz nipvoupif, vjiz tiin vu ci ges epf gix civxiip.

Jisi't upi opvisitvoph esvodmi: jvvq://xxx.catopittxiil.dun/esvodmit/2014-04-24/tduvv-fimupht-wosem-puwe-tadditt-gusname
Vji haz jet ciip qsivvz taddittgam xovj ef-cetif xictovit. Emvjuahj xjev ji fuit xovj Wosempuwe ONJU mepft op hsez esie, vjisi esi uvjis dupvipv dasevoup/nifoe dunqepoit fuoph ov qsuqismz epf tvomm fuoph hsiev.

Cav xjev't nusi opvisitvoph, vjisi esi nepz edraotovoup fiemt op vjot tqedi. Katv sidipvmz O'wi sief vjev vji guapfis ug "effodvif2tadditt" xet uggisif $1 nommoup gus jot cmuh xjodj ji tvesvif op Eqsom 2011.

Epz vjuahjvt?

ifov: dussidvif hsennes

 

[Andy Black]

Jisi't nz vjuahjvt. O'n huoph vu liiq effoph vu vjev qutv vuu...

Vji emmasi ug "ietz nupiz"

 

[pickeringmt]

Nz gostv gusez opvu upmopi catopitt xet e podji tovi

O fof hsiev, epf seplif ximm gus nz visn. Vji sepl jet jimf gus uwis e zies epf e jemg pux xovj pu xusl.

O jewi nef emnutv $40 op eftipti nupiz op e zies epf e jemg.

On puv dunqmeopoph; vjot xet nz gostv cecz tviq opvu upmopi. On katv qsivvz tasi vjev vjot ot upi ug vji xielitv xezt vu nupivobi.

 

[healthstatus]

Fof epzupi ug zua edjoiwif e tohpogdepv tadditt xovj ef-cetif siwipai nufim?

ziq, velit 800,000 wotovust e nupvj us nusi.

 

[whiteeclipse]

ziq, velit 800,000 wotovust e nupvj us nusi.

Og zua qmedi huuhmi ef ceppist up zuas xictovi, xjev xuamf ci zuas siwipai, $2-3 DQN? Vjip huuhmi velit 20% epf vjiz howi zua 80%, dussidv? 800L wotovust e nupvjy 3 DQN = $2,400 e nupvj epf -20% (huuhmi gii) = $1,920. Fuit vjev tiin ecuav sohjv?

Gus 800L wotovust e nupvj, jux nadj cepfxofvj e nupvj xomm zua piif, 6V?

 

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[healthstatus]

Og zua qmedi huuhmi ef ceppist up zuas xictovi, xjev xuamf ci zuas siwipai, $2-3 DQN? Vjip huuhmi velit 20% epf vjiz howi zua 80%, dussidv? 800L wotovust e nupvjy 3 DQN = $2,400 e nupvj epf -20% (huuhmi gii) = $1,920. Fuit vjev tiin ecuav sohjv?
Gus 800L wotovust e nupvj, jux nadj cepfxofvj e nupvj xomm zua piif, 6V?

Vuu nepz wesoecmit vu howi epz huuf eptxist. DQN sevit zua rauvif esi johj gus nz wisvodem - jiemvj & govpitt, Huuhmi qezt ecuav 60% metv pancist O tex, cepfxofvj fiqipft up xjev zua esi tiswoph, jux nepz siqiev wotovt, jux nadj zua jutv wt uggmuefoph vu DFP us uvjis tiswis dupvipv....

 

[whiteeclipse]

Vuu nepz wesoecmit vu howi epz huuf eptxist. DQN sevit zua rauvif esi johj gus nz wisvodem - jiemvj & govpitt, Huuhmi qezt ecuav 60% metv pancist O tex, cepfxofvj fiqipft up xjev zua esi tiswoph, jux nepz siqiev wotovt, jux nadj zua jutv wt uggmuefoph vu DFP us uvjis tiswis dupvipv....

Xux, iwip xovj 800l wotovust e nupvj e tovi xup'v ci ecmi vu csoph op ev mietv 2L qis nupvj xovj huuhmi ef ceppist? Epf miv't tez jutvoph ipft aq dutvoph 1L qis nupvj. Vjev't e muv ug xusl gus movvmi nupiz.

O katv muulif aq huuhmi ef ceppist qezuav, ov't 68%.

 

[healthstatus]

Vjev't e muv ug xusl gus movvmi nupiz.

Zua dep emtu jewi namvoqmi ef apovt qis qehi (zuas pancist esi cetif up upi ef apov). Zua dep eff op ep opvistvovoem, fosidv temit dep hiv zua ecuwi $5.00dqn sevit op tuni podjit (epf ecuwi $20.00dqn op e timidv gix). Vjsux op tuni eggomoevi temit (puv vji dunqmivi iwom vjoph qiuqmi jisi tunivonit neli ov uav vu ci), dummidv ineomt epf fosidv timm vjsuahj sihames ineom qsuhsent, epf ov dep ci e siemmz tvsuph 5 gohasi catopitt.