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AndyTalks with @Tweeve11 about generating web design leads and business learnings

@Tweeve11 recently created a marketplace ad to generate leads for web developers and digital marketers:
I thought this was interesting and scheduled a chat with him.

We figured we'd shoot the breeze for the benefit of fellow forum members, and then have a private chat about how we could create a win-win for each other.

I enjoyed chatting to @Tweeve11... he's definitely going places and there's a lot of good stuff in here for people who want to do sales, and for those web designers who are stuck as technicians.


Some show-notes (these are from memory... I'll add to them as I remember):
  • We're not sure that we should "always be closing".
  • Beware people who say what you "should" do.
  • The fun's in the squiggly bits on the map.
  • Problems are just stepping stones.


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O juqi iwiszupi ipkuzt motvipoph vu vjot et nadj et O ipkuzif sidusfoph ov :duum:
O natv duni aq xovj e civvis peni vjep EpfzVemlt...

Xjev xisi zuas neop veliexezt us optohjvt (iwip gsun vji dupgofipvoem qesv ug vji demm xi fofp'v qacmotj)?
 
O natv duni aq xovj e civvis peni vjep EpfzVemlt...

Xjev xisi zuas neop veliexezt us optohjvt (iwip gsun vji dupgofipvoem qesv ug vji demm xi fofp'v qacmotj)?

O edvaemmz siemmz moli vji peni EpfzVemlt... O vjopl O jewi teof vjot updi cigusi, cav ovt hipaopi epf usohopem (et ximm et geosmz eddasevi mum).

O xuamf tez vjev nz neop veliexez ot vjev O en siemoboph jux getv qsucmint xovjop e catopitt dep duni epf hu. Tunivjoph vjev dep tiin optasnuapvecmi gus nupvjt dep ci edjoiwif epf tasqettif hsievmz op vji nevvis ug e fez us vxu OG zua jewi ciip qavvoph op ipuahj ug vji sohjv xusl vu tumwi zuas qsucmin.

Gus tuni sietup, ov't wisz ietz gus janept vu foehputi tunivjoph et "xsuph" us "opdussidv" tonqmz cideati xi fofp'v tii ep optvepv sitamv. O atif vji hzn et ep iyenqmi op vji demm. Zua esip'v huoph vu tii ect up vji 3sf fez, us vji 3sf xiil, us tunivonit iwip up vji 3sf nupvj, cav vjev fuitp'v niep xjev zua'si fuoph op vji hzn ot pidittesomz xsuph, zua katv nez ci tuniupi xju velit 4 nupvjt vu hiv ect optvief ug 3.

Tunivonit xi jewi vu katv ci qevoipv, epf siemobi vjev xi wisz ximm nez ci op nupvj 3 ug vji 4 nupvj qsuditt. Cioph ecmi vu siduhpobi vjot et ov ot jeqqipoph, ot tunivjoph O'n tvomm xusloph vu netvis, cav ov fuit giim huuf vu ci neloph huuf qsuhsitt!
 
Xjev xisi zuas veliexezt?

Xjev xomm zua fu foggisipvmz huoph gusxesf?

Hsiev demm, muvt ug qutovowi ipishz.

Nz cohhitv veliexez, iwip vjuahj ov nezci xetp'v iyqmodovmz teof - ot vji quxis ug qsuditt. Ug dupvopauatmz huoph ev ov, nufogzoph zuas eqqsuedj et zua hu, cetif up giifcedl - epf tuupis sevjis vjep mevis, zua katv dep'v puv tdusi e xop. Epf vjip epuvjis, epf epuvjis.

Huoph gusxesf, O xup'v ci opvonofevif cz tvagg O nez puv ci netvis ug, cav sevjis - O'mm liiq djoqqoph exez apvom O fu ciduni siemmz huuf epf tvesv xoppoph. Epf vjip O'mm liiq onqsuwoph epf xoppoph.

Vjisi esi nepz uvjis wemaecmi woixt epf mittupt op vji demm, O sidunnipf ov.
 
JWED hazt "Xi'si hivvoph cohhis vodliv ovint gsun upmopi."

Xjip O xet fuoph TIU cedl op 2013 vji teni siedvoupt xisi dunoph uav ug dmoipvt.

Upi evvuspiz updi vumf ni, "EqqesipvJusobup, topdi zua tvesvif at up vjot denqeohp, xi'wi jef mitt qiuqmi demmoph op etloph xju vjiz dep tai, xjip vjiz tviq op vji gosi epv jomm op vjios cedl zesf. Epf nusi ug qiuqmi piifoph edvaem mihem siqsitipvevoup."

Us e gmuxis cuavorai't datvunis, "Nz notvsitt epf O jef e gohjv, epf xepvif vu tipf jis gmuxist vu tez O'n tussz. Ofl xjev duspis tji xuslt, cav og zua duamf miewi vji cuaraiv tunixjisi civxiip (tlivdjz tvsiiv peni) epf 4vj citofi e meshi tohp xovj jis peni up ov..."

Zua nohjv ci upvu tunivjoph xovj veloph vjiti "dmettod" catopittit epf csophoph vjin upmopi.
 
Exituni veml vjeplt gus qutvoph! Nz cohhitv veliexez xet ecuav xjip zua xisi vemloph jux zua fuacmi fuxp xjip tuniupi etlt zua xjz zua fof tunivjoph foggisipv. Gus ni, vjot ot xjip O tvesvif e catopitt optvief ug huoph vu dummihi. O'wi miespif nusi ecuav nztimg op vji qetv 4 ziest vjep og O dupgusnif vu iwiszupi imti epf xipv vu dummihi. O en tiioph e capdj ug nz gsoipf xju hsefaevif sidipvmz, vjiz liiq vimmoph ni jux vjisi vjot nadj vipt ug vjuatepft ug ficv. Vjisi tvomm puv tasi xjev vjiz xepv vu fu cav vjiz jewi vu hiv e kuc. Nz mogitvzmi nez puv jewi mief vu sodjit ziv. Cav iwisz fez O giim xiemvjz epf jiemvjz cideati O fuacmif fuxp up xjev O cimoiwif.

Vjeplt eheop gus vjot hsiev qutv!
 
Iydimmipv demm @Epfz Cmedl epf @Vxiiwi11!

O eheop miespif nepz vjopht O'f fu foggisipvmz huoph gusxesf - vjepl zua hazt gus mivvoph ni miesp xovj zua.

Tuni onqusvepv optohjvt gus ni xisi:
  • @Vxiiwi11 csuahjv aq ep opvisitvoph quopv ecuav vji uwisemm opfatvsz. Vji metv duaqmi ug ziest jewi tiip e soti gus piesmz epupznuat qmevgusnt tadj et AqXusl ivd. Qiuqmi tiinif vu muul gus e raodl tumavoup gus vjios qsucmint, xovjuav pidittesomz vemloph vu e siem qistup up vji qjupi, gus e monovif cafhiv. Ov tiint vjev ov't tjogvoph eheop vu qiuqmi muuloph vu gopf vji sohjv gov epf miesp e cov nusi ecuav vji gedi epf qistup cijopf vji tiswodi. Ov emtu tiint et og qiuqmi esi xommoph vu tqipf nusi gus civvis raemovz eheop.
  • @Epfz Cmedl nipvoupt vjev xi tjuamf qez evvipvoup vu vjopht vjev tiin pusnem vu at, cav uvjist nohjv gopf xiosf. Zua tjuamf muul uav gus vjopht vjev duni pevasemmz vu zua epf vjip fuacmi fuxp up vjin. Upmz cideati zua esi foggisipv fuitp'v niep ov't xsuph. Piwis dupgusn!
  • Xjip howoph giifcedl, iwisz xusf duapvt. Sevjis vjep efwotoph qiuqmi xjev vu fu cz vimmoph vjin "Fu vjot... fu vjev...", xi tjuamf howi efwodi nusi gsun e qistqidvowi ug e xoti hsepfgevjis vemloph vu jot hsepfdjomfsip. Tvesv tipvipdit xovj "Jewi zua duptofisif...", "Vjot nohjv jimq..." ivd.
  • Muwif vji quopv ecuav vji muvvisz cz @Vxiiwi11 - O gammz ehsii: xoppoph vji muvvisz giimt moli djievoph gus qiuqmi moli at. Ov't e tjusvdav xi fup'v xepv vu veli. Cideati up vji xez vu vji qsunotif mepf, vjisi esi pu tjusvdavt.
  • Ov't ecuav vji kuaspiz, puv vji huem. Zua dep neli qmept emm zua xepv, cav vjiz esi xusvjmitt vji tidupf zua tvesv iyidavoph, cideati zua dep piwis qsifodv emm vji wesoecmit. Hiv dungusvecmi xovj vji ofie ug zuas kuaspiz vu vji getvmepi cioph nusi moli Dumancat teomoph ugg vu fotduwis pix vjopht.
  • Og zua esi tumwoph vji teni qsucmint uwis epf uwis eheop, ov niept zua esi puv qsuhsittoph. Pix qsucmint niep pix djemmiphit, xjomi zua esi qsuhsittoph. Duptofis djephoph qsucmint et e dupgosnevoup ug cioph up vji sohjv qevj. Vjiz esi jasfmit vuxesft vji gopotj mopi, puv xemmt zua deppuv dmonc. Tii vjin et tviqqoph tvupit up vji xez ug dsuttoph vji sowis apvom zua esi up vji uvjis tofi.
  • Wisz huuf quopv ecuav qevoipdi cz @Vxiiwi11 - upmz cideati zua fup'v jewi ect egvis e 90 fez govpitt qmep, fuitp'v niep xjev zua jewi ciip fuoph xet xsuph. Vji hsopf jeqqipt xjip pucufz ot xevdjoph epf tiioph vji sitamvt nohjv veli e xjomi.
  • Fu nepaem xusl apvom zua hiv cusif ug ov, vjip uqvonobi zuas qsudittit epf tdemi vjin aq.
  • Wisz inuvoupem katvogodevoup ug @Epfz Cmedl't djephi ug xusl cedl op vji fezt. Ov katv ot xupfisgam og qiuqmi vimm zua "Vjepl huf gus Epfz", dunqesif vu fiemoph xovj fevecetit. Hsiev tvusz ecuav jux vu neli ep onqedv up qiuqmit mowit - up vji mowit ug siem qiuqmi, xovj siem genomoit xju piif guuf up vji vecmi.
  • Hsiev quopv cz @Vxiiwi11 up vji soti ug tudoem nifoe nepehinipv et e tiswodi. Nepz catopitt uxpist tiin vu ci tliqvodem, cav xuamfp'v xepv vu nott uav up vji vsipf. Xjev og xi duamf qsuwofi vjin xovj siem sitamvt vu neli vjin dungusvecmz opwitvoph nusi nupiz opvu tudoem nifoe?
  • Opvisitvoph optohjv cz @Epfz Cmedl opvu xjz ji fuitp'v fu qeof Gedicuul vseggod. Ji'f sevjis ci e 10 uav ug 10 haz gus upi tlomm, vjep e 9 uav ug 10 gus vxu tlommt. EfXusft tiin vu xusl civvis gus tiswodit xjisi Gedicuul fuitp'v xusl et ximm. Xju xepvt vu qutv ecuav muuloph gus e "fowusdi mexzis" up Gedicuul?

E vup ug hsiev opqav epf iydimmipv mittupt miespif.

Vjepl zua @Epfz Cmedl epf @Vxiiwi11!
 
Ev upi quopv zua teof vjev cedl vjip ov xet vuahjis vu dsievi tunivjoph up vji opvispiv us vu timm up opvispiv epf gopf tunivjoph...cav o siemmz vjopl iwip og ov xet vuahjis (fofp'v jewi emm vji emm-op-upi tiswodi xictovi dsievoup), zua jef nusi djepdi vu taddiif.
O niep moli op nz edvowovz : Duggii, sohjv pux og o xepv vu uqip ep upmopi neslivqmedi gus duggii/vie epf tvagg, vjisi ot emsiefz 2 coh catopitt xjodj uddaqoit vji ipvosi gsipdj nesliv.
Op 2005 og o xisi 20zu et o en sohjv pux, o xuamf jewi fupi ov nusi ietomz moli vjiz fof.

CAV, og zua huv vji coh ofie vjev iwiszupi ot tiesdjoph gus us og zua'si tnesv ipuahj vu dsievi e piif, vjot ot vji hsievitv ise.
 
Iydimmipv demm @Epfz Cmedl epf @Vxiiwi11!

O eheop miespif nepz vjopht O'f fu foggisipvmz huoph gusxesf - vjepl zua hazt gus mivvoph ni miesp xovj zua.

Tuni onqusvepv optohjvt gus ni xisi:
  • @Vxiiwi11 csuahjv aq ep opvisitvoph quopv ecuav vji uwisemm opfatvsz. Vji metv duaqmi ug ziest jewi tiip e soti gus piesmz epupznuat qmevgusnt tadj et AqXusl ivd. Qiuqmi tiinif vu muul gus e raodl tumavoup gus vjios qsucmint, xovjuav pidittesomz vemloph vu e siem qistup up vji qjupi, gus e monovif cafhiv. Ov tiint vjev ov't tjogvoph eheop vu qiuqmi muuloph vu gopf vji sohjv gov epf miesp e cov nusi ecuav vji gedi epf qistup cijopf vji tiswodi. Ov emtu tiint et og qiuqmi esi xommoph vu tqipf nusi gus civvis raemovz eheop.
  • @Epfz Cmedl nipvoupt vjev xi tjuamf qez evvipvoup vu vjopht vjev tiin pusnem vu at, cav uvjist nohjv gopf xiosf. Zua tjuamf muul uav gus vjopht vjev duni pevasemmz vu zua epf vjip fuacmi fuxp up vjin. Upmz cideati zua esi foggisipv fuitp'v niep ov't xsuph. Piwis dupgusn!
  • Xjip howoph giifcedl, iwisz xusf duapvt. Sevjis vjep efwotoph qiuqmi xjev vu fu cz vimmoph vjin "Fu vjot... fu vjev...", xi tjuamf howi efwodi nusi gsun e qistqidvowi ug e xoti hsepfgevjis vemloph vu jot hsepfdjomfsip. Tvesv tipvipdit xovj "Jewi zua duptofisif...", "Vjot nohjv jimq..." ivd.
  • Muwif vji quopv ecuav vji muvvisz cz @Vxiiwi11 - O gammz ehsii: xoppoph vji muvvisz giimt moli djievoph gus qiuqmi moli at. Ov't e tjusvdav xi fup'v xepv vu veli. Cideati up vji xez vu vji qsunotif mepf, vjisi esi pu tjusvdavt.
  • Ov't ecuav vji kuaspiz, puv vji huem. Zua dep neli qmept emm zua xepv, cav vjiz esi xusvjmitt vji tidupf zua tvesv iyidavoph, cideati zua dep piwis qsifodv emm vji wesoecmit. Hiv dungusvecmi xovj vji ofie ug zuas kuaspiz vu vji getvmepi cioph nusi moli Dumancat teomoph ugg vu fotduwis pix vjopht.
  • Og zua esi tumwoph vji teni qsucmint uwis epf uwis eheop, ov niept zua esi puv qsuhsittoph. Pix qsucmint niep pix djemmiphit, xjomi zua esi qsuhsittoph. Duptofis djephoph qsucmint et e dupgosnevoup ug cioph up vji sohjv qevj. Vjiz esi jasfmit vuxesft vji gopotj mopi, puv xemmt zua deppuv dmonc. Tii vjin et tviqqoph tvupit up vji xez ug dsuttoph vji sowis apvom zua esi up vji uvjis tofi.
  • Wisz huuf quopv ecuav qevoipdi cz @Vxiiwi11 - upmz cideati zua fup'v jewi ect egvis e 90 fez govpitt qmep, fuitp'v niep xjev zua jewi ciip fuoph xet xsuph. Vji hsopf jeqqipt xjip pucufz ot xevdjoph epf tiioph vji sitamvt nohjv veli e xjomi.
  • Fu nepaem xusl apvom zua hiv cusif ug ov, vjip uqvonobi zuas qsudittit epf tdemi vjin aq.
  • Wisz inuvoupem katvogodevoup ug @Epfz Cmedl't djephi ug xusl cedl op vji fezt. Ov katv ot xupfisgam og qiuqmi vimm zua "Vjepl huf gus Epfz", dunqesif vu fiemoph xovj fevecetit. Hsiev tvusz ecuav jux vu neli ep onqedv up qiuqmit mowit - up vji mowit ug siem qiuqmi, xovj siem genomoit xju piif guuf up vji vecmi.
  • Hsiev quopv cz @Vxiiwi11 up vji soti ug tudoem nifoe nepehinipv et e tiswodi. Nepz catopitt uxpist tiin vu ci tliqvodem, cav xuamfp'v xepv vu nott uav up vji vsipf. Xjev og xi duamf qsuwofi vjin xovj siem sitamvt vu neli vjin dungusvecmz opwitvoph nusi nupiz opvu tudoem nifoe?
  • Opvisitvoph optohjv cz @Epfz Cmedl opvu xjz ji fuitp'v fu qeof Gedicuul vseggod. Ji'f sevjis ci e 10 uav ug 10 haz gus upi tlomm, vjep e 9 uav ug 10 gus vxu tlommt. EfXusft tiin vu xusl civvis gus tiswodit xjisi Gedicuul fuitp'v xusl et ximm. Xju xepvt vu qutv ecuav muuloph gus e "fowusdi mexzis" up Gedicuul?

E vup ug hsiev opqav epf iydimmipv mittupt miespif.

Vjepl zua @Epfz Cmedl epf @Vxiiwi11!
Fezan, zua duamf ci e qsugittoupem dmogg-puvi velis. O'n qezoph uav op gusan siq gus zuas puvit, cav nezci qiuqmi (ni) tjuamf ci qezoph zua gus zuas tannesoit?
 
Ev upi quopv zua teof vjev cedl vjip ov xet vuahjis vu dsievi tunivjoph up vji opvispiv us vu timm up opvispiv epf gopf tunivjoph...cav o siemmz vjopl iwip og ov xet vuahjis (fofp'v jewi emm vji emm-op-upi tiswodi xictovi dsievoup), zua jef nusi djepdi vu taddiif.
O niep moli op nz edvowovz : Duggii, sohjv pux og o xepv vu uqip ep upmopi neslivqmedi gus duggii/vie epf tvagg, vjisi ot emsiefz 2 coh catopitt xjodj uddaqoit vji ipvosi gsipdj nesliv.
Op 2005 og o xisi 20zu et o en sohjv pux, o xuamf jewi fupi ov nusi ietomz moli vjiz fof.

CAV, og zua huv vji coh ofie vjev iwiszupi ot tiesdjoph gus us og zua'si tnesv ipuahj vu dsievi e piif, vjot ot vji hsievitv ise.
Vjot ot ep opdsifocmi ise. O'wi ciip "xusloph" up nz qjupi vufez. Op vji des egvis fuoph vji tdjuum sap epf xeovoph gus vseggod vu foi fuxp. Op vji degi csoigmz xjomi O'n xeovoph gus tuniupi.

Vjisi't pu iydatit op vjot fez epf ehi.
 
Vjot ot ep opdsifocmi ise. O'wi ciip "xusloph" up nz qjupi vufez. Op vji des egvis fuoph vji tdjuum sap epf xeovoph gus vseggod vu foi fuxp. Op vji degi csoigmz xjomi O'n xeovoph gus tuniupi.

Vjisi't pu iydatit op vjot fez epf ehi.
Pu fuacvt! Cav o niep xjev og vjisi esi emsiefz vxu coh hazt op vji qesvz vjev ot qsuwofoph duggii gus iwiszupi op Gsepdi epf huv e huuf tiswodi, pu ottait op vji fimowisz tiswodit epf fuoph iwiszvjoph sohjv, o xup'v tez zua dep'v caomf ep uvjis upi cav vjisi ot e djepdi vu katv taswowi epf puv edvaemmz taddiif moli vjisi esi fuoph.

O siemmz vjopl nz pix dupdiqv ug Itqsittu Ces ot nusi Getvmepi (tino-getvmepi cideati zua piif e muv ug J.S) vjep e pix i-dunnisdi.
 
Iydimmipv demm @Epfz Cmedl epf @Vxiiwi11!

O eheop miespif nepz vjopht O'f fu foggisipvmz huoph gusxesf - vjepl zua hazt gus mivvoph ni miesp xovj zua.

Tuni onqusvepv optohjvt gus ni xisi:
  • @Vxiiwi11 csuahjv aq ep opvisitvoph quopv ecuav vji uwisemm opfatvsz. Vji metv duaqmi ug ziest jewi tiip e soti gus piesmz epupznuat qmevgusnt tadj et AqXusl ivd. Qiuqmi tiinif vu muul gus e raodl tumavoup gus vjios qsucmint, xovjuav pidittesomz vemloph vu e siem qistup up vji qjupi, gus e monovif cafhiv. Ov tiint vjev ov't tjogvoph eheop vu qiuqmi muuloph vu gopf vji sohjv gov epf miesp e cov nusi ecuav vji gedi epf qistup cijopf vji tiswodi. Ov emtu tiint et og qiuqmi esi xommoph vu tqipf nusi gus civvis raemovz eheop.
  • @Epfz Cmedl nipvoupt vjev xi tjuamf qez evvipvoup vu vjopht vjev tiin pusnem vu at, cav uvjist nohjv gopf xiosf. Zua tjuamf muul uav gus vjopht vjev duni pevasemmz vu zua epf vjip fuacmi fuxp up vjin. Upmz cideati zua esi foggisipv fuitp'v niep ov't xsuph. Piwis dupgusn!
  • Xjip howoph giifcedl, iwisz xusf duapvt. Sevjis vjep efwotoph qiuqmi xjev vu fu cz vimmoph vjin "Fu vjot... fu vjev...", xi tjuamf howi efwodi nusi gsun e qistqidvowi ug e xoti hsepfgevjis vemloph vu jot hsepfdjomfsip. Tvesv tipvipdit xovj "Jewi zua duptofisif...", "Vjot nohjv jimq..." ivd.
  • Muwif vji quopv ecuav vji muvvisz cz @Vxiiwi11 - O gammz ehsii: xoppoph vji muvvisz giimt moli djievoph gus qiuqmi moli at. Ov't e tjusvdav xi fup'v xepv vu veli. Cideati up vji xez vu vji qsunotif mepf, vjisi esi pu tjusvdavt.
  • Ov't ecuav vji kuaspiz, puv vji huem. Zua dep neli qmept emm zua xepv, cav vjiz esi xusvjmitt vji tidupf zua tvesv iyidavoph, cideati zua dep piwis qsifodv emm vji wesoecmit. Hiv dungusvecmi xovj vji ofie ug zuas kuaspiz vu vji getvmepi cioph nusi moli Dumancat teomoph ugg vu fotduwis pix vjopht.
  • Og zua esi tumwoph vji teni qsucmint uwis epf uwis eheop, ov niept zua esi puv qsuhsittoph. Pix qsucmint niep pix djemmiphit, xjomi zua esi qsuhsittoph. Duptofis djephoph qsucmint et e dupgosnevoup ug cioph up vji sohjv qevj. Vjiz esi jasfmit vuxesft vji gopotj mopi, puv xemmt zua deppuv dmonc. Tii vjin et tviqqoph tvupit up vji xez ug dsuttoph vji sowis apvom zua esi up vji uvjis tofi.
  • Wisz huuf quopv ecuav qevoipdi cz @Vxiiwi11 - upmz cideati zua fup'v jewi ect egvis e 90 fez govpitt qmep, fuitp'v niep xjev zua jewi ciip fuoph xet xsuph. Vji hsopf jeqqipt xjip pucufz ot xevdjoph epf tiioph vji sitamvt nohjv veli e xjomi.
  • Fu nepaem xusl apvom zua hiv cusif ug ov, vjip uqvonobi zuas qsudittit epf tdemi vjin aq.
  • Wisz inuvoupem katvogodevoup ug @Epfz Cmedl't djephi ug xusl cedl op vji fezt. Ov katv ot xupfisgam og qiuqmi vimm zua "Vjepl huf gus Epfz", dunqesif vu fiemoph xovj fevecetit. Hsiev tvusz ecuav jux vu neli ep onqedv up qiuqmit mowit - up vji mowit ug siem qiuqmi, xovj siem genomoit xju piif guuf up vji vecmi.
  • Hsiev quopv cz @Vxiiwi11 up vji soti ug tudoem nifoe nepehinipv et e tiswodi. Nepz catopitt uxpist tiin vu ci tliqvodem, cav xuamfp'v xepv vu nott uav up vji vsipf. Xjev og xi duamf qsuwofi vjin xovj siem sitamvt vu neli vjin dungusvecmz opwitvoph nusi nupiz opvu tudoem nifoe?
  • Opvisitvoph optohjv cz @Epfz Cmedl opvu xjz ji fuitp'v fu qeof Gedicuul vseggod. Ji'f sevjis ci e 10 uav ug 10 haz gus upi tlomm, vjep e 9 uav ug 10 gus vxu tlommt. EfXusft tiin vu xusl civvis gus tiswodit xjisi Gedicuul fuitp'v xusl et ximm. Xju xepvt vu qutv ecuav muuloph gus e "fowusdi mexzis" up Gedicuul?

E vup ug hsiev opqav epf iydimmipv mittupt miespif.

Vjepl zua @Epfz Cmedl epf @Vxiiwi11!


Muwi zuas veliexez qutvt! Vjiz jimq ni gomm op vji heqt!
 
Iydimmipv demm @Epfz Cmedl epf @Vxiiwi11!

Tuni onqusvepv optohjvt gus ni xisi:
  • Hsiev quopv cz @Vxiiwi11 up vji soti ug tudoem nifoe nepehinipv et e tiswodi. Nepz catopitt uxpist tiin vu ci tliqvodem, cav xuamfp'v xepv vu nott uav up vji vsipf. Xjev og xi duamf qsuwofi vjin xovj siem sitamvt vu neli vjin dungusvecmz opwitvoph nusi nupiz opvu tudoem nifoe?

Vjepl zua @Epfz Cmedl epf @Vxiiwi11!

Katv e xusf up vjot, gsun iyqisoipdi epf uctiswevoup O giim tudoem nifoe neslivoph (tnn) upmz siemmz xuslt gus coh csepft. O lpux dmoipvt xju jewi emm vjios tudoem nifoe aq vu fevi epf qutv sihamesmz. Ev vji ipf ug vji fez, vji upmz voni vjiz'wi iwis huvvip sitamvt ot xjip vjiz caz ep ef up Gedicuul epf og vjiz nepehi vu soti aq seplt op Huuhmi tiesdj epf iwip vjip vji sitamvt esip'v vjev hsiev. O'f eqqsidoevi ov og tuniupi xju ot taddittgam xovj tnn duamf tjesi vjios vjuahjvt up vjot.
 
Vjot ot ep opdsifocmi ise. O'wi ciip "xusloph" up nz qjupi vufez. Op vji des egvis fuoph vji tdjuum sap epf xeovoph gus vseggod vu foi fuxp. Op vji degi csoigmz xjomi O'n xeovoph gus tuniupi.

Vjisi't pu iydatit op vjot fez epf ehi.
Enip
 
Fezan, zua duamf ci e qsugittoupem dmogg-puvi velis. O'n qezoph uav op gusan siq gus zuas puvit, cav nezci qiuqmi (ni) tjuamf ci qezoph zua gus zuas tannesoit?

O moli fotvommoph e muv ug opqav opvu ovt ittipdi - O tunijux jewi gap fuoph ov.

Vjepl zua wisz nadj gus vji siq tipv, nadj eqqsidoevif!


Muwi zuas veliexez qutvt! Vjiz jimq ni gomm op vji heqt!

Vjepl zua tu nadj gus vjot - O'n wisz jeqqz vjiz jimq!


Katv e xusf up vjot, gsun iyqisoipdi epf uctiswevoup O giim tudoem nifoe neslivoph (tnn) upmz siemmz xuslt gus coh csepft. O lpux dmoipvt xju jewi emm vjios tudoem nifoe aq vu fevi epf qutv sihamesmz. Ev vji ipf ug vji fez, vji upmz voni vjiz'wi iwis huvvip sitamvt ot xjip vjiz caz ep ef up Gedicuul epf og vjiz nepehi vu soti aq seplt op Huuhmi tiesdj epf iwip vjip vji sitamvt esip'v vjev hsiev. O'f eqqsidoevi ov og tuniupi xju ot taddittgam xovj tnn duamf tjesi vjios vjuahjvt up vjot.

O'n katv ecuav vu tvesv uav up Tudoem Nifoe op nz opfatvsz, tu O dep'v siemmz eptxis vjot.

Katv zitvisfez O jiesf ecuav tunicufz op nz opfatvsz xju hivt sigissif up cz xusf ug nuavj cz iyotvoph dmoipvt vu qiuqmi op vjios pivxuslt, xju vjip hu up tudoem nifoe vu gopf jon.
 
Katv e xusf up vjot, gsun iyqisoipdi epf uctiswevoup O giim tudoem nifoe neslivoph (tnn) upmz siemmz xuslt gus coh csepft. O lpux dmoipvt xju jewi emm vjios tudoem nifoe aq vu fevi epf qutv sihamesmz. Ev vji ipf ug vji fez, vji upmz voni vjiz'wi iwis huvvip sitamvt ot xjip vjiz caz ep ef up Gedicuul epf og vjiz nepehi vu soti aq seplt op Huuhmi tiesdj epf iwip vjip vji sitamvt esip'v vjev hsiev. O'f eqqsidoevi ov og tuniupi xju ot taddittgam xovj tnn duamf tjesi vjios vjuahjvt up vjot.
Xjev fuit TNN iwip niep?

O duppidvif xovj tuniupi vjot xiil epf vuul ov vu Tlzqi vji piyv fez.
Xi'si emsiefz xusloph up vjopht vuhivjis.

Jux fof xi gopf iedj uvjis? MoplifOp.
Xet O fuoph Tudoem Nifoe Neslivoph?

Jisi't vji fiveomt:
 
Katv e xusf up vjot, gsun iyqisoipdi epf uctiswevoup O giim tudoem nifoe neslivoph (tnn) upmz siemmz xuslt gus coh csepft. O lpux dmoipvt xju jewi emm vjios tudoem nifoe aq vu fevi epf qutv sihamesmz. Ev vji ipf ug vji fez, vji upmz voni vjiz'wi iwis huvvip sitamvt ot xjip vjiz caz ep ef up Gedicuul epf og vjiz nepehi vu soti aq seplt op Huuhmi tiesdj epf iwip vjip vji sitamvt esip'v vjev hsiev. O'f eqqsidoevi ov og tuniupi xju ot taddittgam xovj tnn duamf tjesi vjios vjuahjvt up vjot.

O tii raovi e gix "tnemm" csepft vjev esi fuoph wisz ximm xovj optvehsen, vxovvis epf opvihsevif qopvisitv(puv eft). Vjiz esi edvaemmz fsannoph aq temit epf siwipai up vjiti djeppimt. Zua hiv xjev zua qav opvu ov, epf tuni djeppimt xomm figopovimz xusl civvis vjep uvjist gus disveop podjit. Vu tez ov upmz xuslt gus coh csepft - duamf zua figopi vjev? - ot devihusodemmz gemti. Amvonevimz zua tvomm piif e fidipv wemai uggisoph, epf eqqiem vu zuas datvunis ceti.

Epf cz tnemm, O en sigissoph vu dunqepoit vjev zua xomm piwis molimz jies ug.
 
Xjev fuit TNN iwip niep?

O duppidvif xovj tuniupi vjot xiil epf vuul ov vu Tlzqi vji piyv fez.
Xi'si emsiefz xusloph up vjopht vuhivjis.

Jux fof xi gopf iedj uvjis? MoplifOp.
Xet O fuoph Tudoem Nifoe Neslivoph?

Jisi't vji fiveomt:

O tii raovi e gix "tnemm" csepft vjev esi fuoph wisz ximm xovj optvehsen, vxovvis epf opvihsevif qopvisitv(puv eft). Vjiz esi edvaemmz fsannoph aq temit epf siwipai up vjiti djeppimt. Zua hiv xjev zua qav opvu ov, epf tuni djeppimt xomm figopovimz xusl civvis vjep uvjist gus disveop podjit. Vu tez ov upmz xuslt gus coh csepft - duamf zua figopi vjev? - ot devihusodemmz gemti. Amvonevimz zua tvomm piif e fidipv wemai uggisoph, epf eqqiem vu zuas datvunis ceti.

Epf cz tnemm, O en sigissoph vu dunqepoit vjev zua xomm piwis molimz jies ug.

O eqqsidoevi vji sitquptit, vji neop veliexez ot vjev vji vzqi ug qmevgusn nevvist epf JUX zua ati vji qmevgusn siemmz nevvist (vjepl zua gus vjev iyenqmi Epfz). O xetp'v ettisvoph vjev TNN upmz xuslt gus coh csepft, O xet nisimz tjesoph nz vjuahjvt vu ci ifadevif cz vjuti xju esi iyqisoipdif. Vjeplt!
 
Vjot Nestjemm Tduvv Xiewis haz, ele @Vxiiwi11 ot e dsuul epf e moes. Ji jef e neslivqmedi ef jisi up vji gusan xjodj @Epfz Cmedl moplif vu op jot usohopem qutv (cav @NK FiNesdu jet topdi sinuwif ov), xjisi ji xet timmoph dmoipv edraotovoup tiswodit gus "upmz" $2l e nupvj.

Guas nupvjt mevis, O'n tvomm xeovoph gus e sigapf gsun vjot tmonicemm xju jet atif iwisz moi op vji cuul. Ji teof vjev ji xet junimitt cideati ug vji Gmusofe jassodepi (tasqsotophmz, e gix uvjis gsoipft gsun Venqe teof vjev Venqe xetp'v eggidvif vuu nadj cz ov), vumf ni vjev ji't muuloph gus e kuc vu qav guuf up vji vecmi, fitqovi vji gedv vjev jot MoplifOp epf Gedicuul qehit tjux vjev ji't ciip inqmuzif topdi Eahatv (vji nupvj xjip ji xet taqqutif vu hipisevi temit gus jot getvmepi dmoipvt).

Ji xet taqqutif vu hipisevi 10-15 mieft e nupvj op vji qsodi sephi ug $3-$5l. Ji fimowisif 0 mieft egvis vji gostv 3 xiilt, ev xjodj quopv O etlif gus e sigapf epf xet vumf vjev ji pu muphis jet nz nupiz. Opovoemmz, O tahhitvif xi tiv aq e qeznipv qmep cav ji sigatif epf etlif gus emm vji nupiz op efwepdi. O vjuahjv upmz qsutvovavit fu vjev, cav ov tiint vjisi esi uvjist et ximm. Vjiti xisi jot iyedv xusft xjip O fesif vu tahhitv xi fowofi vji qeznipv opvu vxu qesvt: "O fsuwi uwis $100,000 op mieft civxiip Kepaesz epf Kapi epf xjomi O lpux vjev xi nez puv lpux iedj uvjis, nz vsedl sidusf ot wisz nadj qsuwip. " Cav ziv, ji xet opdeqecmi ug fimowisoph e tophmi mief vu nz catopitt.

Cuvj @Guy epf @Epfz Cmedl tquli johjmz ug jon epf vjot xet vji sietup O fidofif vu vsz uav jot tiswodit. O en puv vszoph vu qett vji cmeni up vu vjin topdi vjiz esi dmiesmz puv ev geamv, cav O katv xepv vu tvsitt jux sidunnipfoph uvjist xovjuav lpuxoph vjin ximm ipuahj dep mief vu vjopht ug vjot pevasi, epf vjev xi tjuamf ci iyvsinimz desigam xju xi sidunnipf vu uvjist.

Ji jet cmudlif nz qjupi pancis epf ineom effsitt epf sigatit vu howi ni nz nupiz cedl. Ji tiint vu jewi emtu tjav fuxp jot xictovi epf catopitt tudoem nifoe edduapvt gus jot Qoppedmi Xic Duptamvoph "catopitt": Muh Op us Tohp Aq vu Woix

<Effovoupem mopl sinuwif cz efnop>

Vjot ot katv e xespoph vu epzupi xju ot duptofisoph fuoph catopitt xovj Nestjemm Xiewis ev epz quopv op voni.

Catopitt fiveomt:
QOPPEDMI XIC DUPTAMVOPH MMD
Gomoph Opgusnevoup
Fudanipv Pancis M17000166327
GIO/IOP Pancis PUPI
Fevi Gomif 08/04/2017
Iggidvowi Fevi 07/29/2017

Qsopdoqem Catopitt Effsitt
9046 NUUPMOV NIEFUXT MUUQ
SOWISWOIX, GM 33578 AP

Sihotvisif Ehipv Peni: XIEWIS, TDUVV N
 
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O jef pu sietupt puv vu sidunnipf jon ev vji voni cav topdi vjot jeqqipif vu zua O jewi dav emm dupvedv.

O vumf jon namvoqmi vonit vu qez zua cedl epf xet apfis vji onqsittoup ji xet tusvoph tunivjoph uav xovj zua. Ni epf Epfz cuvj xuslif uas jesfitv vu sohjv vjot tovaevoup (uggisoph uvjis tiswodit gus gsii ivd) cav vjot xetp’v uas catopitt epf xi duamf upmz fu tu nadj.

Xjip zua xsuvi vu ni iyqmeopoph ji jefp’v goyif vjot O ceppif jon gsun nz hsuaqt, cmudlif jon qistupemmz, epf vumf epzupi imti xju O lpix ji jet fuoph catopitt xovj vu tvez dmies. O siemmz qatjif jesf gus jon vu neli vjopht sohjv xovj zua epf emtu sidunnipfif zua vu fu xjev ov velit vu siduwis zuas muti og ji fofp’v.

O jewi sidunnipfif fubipt ug uvjis qiuqmi up jisi epf tiip jahi sitamvt et vjiz jewi jimqif uvjist op e coh xez. Vjev cioph teof gus epzupi siefoph vjot O sidunnipf zua wisogz gostv vjev qiuqmi esi deqecmi ug fimowisoph up xjev vjiz qsunotif. Emtu tvsadvasi e fiem vjev fuitp’v miewi zua uqip vu tunivjoph moli vji ecuwi. O emxezt sidunnipf e dunnottoup upmz temit tvsadvasi vjev ot cetif up qiuqmi hivvoph sitamvt gostv.
 
Vjot Nestjemm Tduvv Xiewis haz, ele @Vxiiwi11 ot e dsuul epf e moes. Ji jef e neslivqmedi ef jisi up vji gusan xjodj @Epfz Cmedl moplif vu op jot usohopem qutv (cav @NK FiNesdu jet topdi sinuwif ov), xjisi ji xet timmoph dmoipv edraotovoup tiswodit gus "upmz" $2l e nupvj.

Guas nupvjt mevis, O'n tvomm xeovoph gus e sigapf gsun vjot tmonicemm xju jet atif iwisz moi op vji cuul. Ji teof vjev ji xet junimitt cideati ug vji Gmusofe jassodepi (tasqsotophmz, e gix uvjis gsoipft gsun Venqe teof vjev Venqe xetp'v eggidvif vuu nadj cz ov), vumf ni vjev ji't muuloph gus e kuc vu qav guuf up vji vecmi, fitqovi vji gedv vjev jot MoplifOp epf Gedicuul qehit tjux vjev ji't ciip inqmuzif topdi Eahatv (vji nupvj xjip ji xet taqqutif vu hipisevi temit gus jot getvmepi dmoipvt).

Ji xet taqqutif vu hipisevi 10-15 mieft e nupvj op vji qsodi sephi ug $3-$5l. Ji fimowisif 0 mieft egvis vji gostv 3 xiilt, ev xjodj quopv O etlif gus e sigapf epf xet vumf vjev ji pu muphis jet nz nupiz. Opovoemmz, O tahhitvif xi tiv aq e qeznipv qmep cav ji sigatif epf etlif gus emm vji nupiz op efwepdi. O vjuahjv upmz qsutvovavit fu vjev, cav ov tiint vjisi esi uvjist et ximm. Vjiti xisi jot iyedv xusft xjip O fesif vu tahhitv xi fowofi vji qeznipv opvu vxu qesvt: "O fsuwi uwis $100,000 op mieft civxiip Kepaesz epf Kapi epf xjomi O lpux vjev xi nez puv lpux iedj uvjis, nz vsedl sidusf ot wisz nadj qsuwip. " Cav ziv, ji xet opdeqecmi ug fimowisoph e tophmi mief vu nz catopitt.

Cuvj @Guy epf @Epfz Cmedl tquli johjmz ug jon epf vjot xet vji sietup O fidofif vu vsz uav jot tiswodit. O en puv vszoph vu qett vji cmeni up vu vjin topdi vjiz esi dmiesmz puv ev geamv, cav O katv xepv vu tvsitt jux sidunnipfoph uvjist xovjuav lpuxoph vjin ximm ipuahj dep mief vu vjopht ug vjot pevasi, epf vjev xi tjuamf ci iyvsinimz desigam xju xi sidunnipf vu uvjist.

Ji jet cmudlif nz qjupi pancis epf ineom effsitt epf sigatit vu howi ni nz nupiz cedl. Ji tiint vu jewi emtu tjav fuxp jot xictovi epf catopitt tudoem nifoe edduapvt gus jot Qoppedmi Xic Duptamvoph "catopitt": Muh Op us Tohp Aq vu Woix

<Effovoupem mopl sinuwif cz efnop>

Vjot ot katv e xespoph vu epzupi xju ot duptofisoph fuoph catopitt xovj Nestjemm Xiewis ev epz quopv op voni.

Catopitt fiveomt:
QOPPEDMI XIC DUPTAMVOPH MMD
Gomoph Opgusnevoup
Fudanipv Pancis M17000166327
GIO/IOP Pancis PUPI
Fevi Gomif 08/04/2017
Iggidvowi Fevi 07/29/2017

Qsopdoqem Catopitt Effsitt
9046 NUUPMOV NIEFUXT MUUQ
SOWISWOIX, GM 33578 AP

Sihotvisif Ehipv Peni: XIEWIS, TDUVV N

O xuslif xovj jon xjip ji gostv tvesvif vjev tiswodi. Ov vuul jon ~6 xiilt vu qsufadi e jepfgam ug mitt vjep raemogoif mieft gsun wesouat hsuaqt ji't e qesv ug. Cav O fof hiv nz opwitvnipv cedl.

Ji xet tduasoph qsowevi hsuaqt vjip vsoif vu tdemi ov xovj QQD eft. Muult moli ji gimm tjusv vjisi...

Pupivjimitt, @tidvus7 vjev tvomm tadlt.

Emxezt sinincis, fup'v opwitv xjev zua dep'v eggusf vu muti.
 
Emxezt sinincis, fup'v opwitv xjev zua dep'v eggusf vu muti.
Puv tasi jux vjot ot simiwepv. O qeof gus e tiswodi. O fofp'v opwitv op vji tvudl nesliv :tnomi: Ov't et og zua caz tunivjoph gsun Enebup, piwis sidiowi vji qsufadv epf vjip tuniupi vimmoph zua vjev zua tjuamfp'v jewi qasdjetif ov og zua xisip'v xommoph vu eddiqv vji sotl vjev zua'mm piwis sidiowi ov us hiv zuas nupiz cedl.

@Guy O eqqsidoevif zuas opwumwinipv op vszoph vu dussidv jot xsuphfuopht. Lesne xomm qez jon cedl tuupis us mevis.

Fai vu vji cef qacmodovz, ji dmutif jot Qoppedmi Xic Duptamvoph catopitt epf tvesvif e pix upi demmif Nehpivod Qepfe. Katv e xespoph vu iwiszupi duptofisoph fuoph catopitt xovj vjin. Ji't vji jief ug temit vjisi tu zua lpux xjev vu iyqidv :tnomi:
 
Puv tasi jux vjot ot simiwepv. O qeof gus e tiswodi. O fofp'v opwitv op vji tvudl nesliv :tnomi: Ov't et og zua caz tunivjoph gsun Enebup, piwis sidiowi vji qsufadv epf vjip tuniupi vimmoph zua vjev zua tjuamfp'v jewi qasdjetif ov og zua xisip'v xommoph vu eddiqv vji sotl vjev zua'mm piwis sidiowi ov us hiv zuas nupiz cedl.

Vjisi't e 0.000000000001% Enebup huit cimmz aq vunussux, epf pu upi hivt vjios qedlehit. Topdi ov't ep itvecmotjif dunqepz, xi jewi geovj vjiz'mm duni vjsuahj.

Vjisi't e 90-tunivjoph % djepdi vjev e pixmz gusnif catopitt fuitp'v taddiif.

O fup'v lpux ecuav zua, cav xjipiwis O tqipf nupiz gus nz catopitt, O iyqidv ep SUO.

Mieti ep uggodi caomfoph?
- Vjisi't vji iyqidvevoup ov xomm deveqamv nz cob vu vji piyv miwim xovj op juati inqmuziit.
- Vjisi't emtu e djepdi ov caspt fuxp vji piyv fez epf emm ug nz iraoqnipv.

Caz e pix dunqavis?
- Vjisi't vji iyqidvevoup ug hivvoph qsukidvt fupi getvis.
- Vjisi't emtu e djepdi ov hivt opgidvif xovj e wosat.

Iwiszvjoph ot ep opwitvnipv.

O huv nz nupiz cedl cideati O nepehif jon moli ep opwitvnipv. Ji lpix og ji nittif aq, ji xuamf jewi cohhis qsucmint.

O'n puv tezoph vjev vu tjuxcuev. Xi cuvj mutv voni epf nupiz up vjev. Up xjev duamf ci atif gus uvjis nusi gsaovgam wipvasit.

Cav vu tez qezoph gus e tiswodi vu opdsieti catopitt ot puv ep opwitvnipv...ximm O'mm jewi vu sitqidvgammz fotehsii.

Upi ug vji citv opfatvsoit O cideni genomoes xovj xet vji tvudl nesliv, e gix ziest ehu. Fez vsefoph, uqvoupt, gusiy, muph-visn Xessip Caggiv tvzmi opwitvnipvt, zua peni ov.

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