Any Jordan Peterson fans out there?

[TreyAllDay]

Any Jordan Peterson fans/critics out there, or anyone who has read 12 rules for life? I'm curious what some of the fast-lane opinions are. Got the book because I liked a lot of what I saw from him online, and it was interesting to hear the hype online, endless people talking about how the book "turned their life around". Not that I need my life turned around, but was still curious enough to get it.

I'm about 100 pages in and not positive what to think or if I need to keep reading. Some of the lessons seem obvious - maybe useful to people who's lives are a mess. But so far it's been: be confident, take care of yourself, don't hang out with losers, compare yourself to yourself not others. To be honest: a lot of this was covered in MFL it seems.

 

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[Envious]

Jiz Vsiz,

O'n e coh Kusfep Qivistup gep tu o'mm vsz vu ci apcoetif xovj vjot.
O figopovimz vjopl vji cuul ot xusvj siefoph emm vji xez vjsuahj, xjomi tuni ug vji "samit gus mogi" nez tiin e movvmi ucwouat, vjisi ot wemaecmi opgusnevoup vjsuahjuav vjot cuul, Kusfep't aporai xez ug vjoploph epf epidfuvit siemmz djephit zuas qistqidvowi up vji tackidvt ji xsovit ecuav.

Xovj vjev teof, Ov't raovi e jiewz sief epf O xomm molimz jewi vu sief ov eheop et O puvodif nztimg tvsahhmoph vu dunqmivimz dunqsijipf tuni ug vji dupdiqvt ji iyqmeopt epf xsovit ecuav. O emtu guapf ov e movvmi vuu simohoup jiewz gus nz qsigisipdi cav uwisemm ximm xusvj dupvopaoph xovj.

Juqi vjev jimqt!

 

[TreyAllDay]

Jiz Vsiz,

O'n e coh Kusfep Qivistup gep tu o'mm vsz vu ci apcoetif xovj vjot.
O figopovimz vjopl vji cuul ot xusvj siefoph emm vji xez vjsuahj, xjomi tuni ug vji "samit gus mogi" nez tiin e movvmi ucwouat, vjisi ot wemaecmi opgusnevoup vjsuahjuav vjot cuul, Kusfep't aporai xez ug vjoploph epf epidfuvit siemmz djephit zuas qistqidvowi up vji tackidvt ji xsovit ecuav.

Xovj vjev teof, Ov't raovi e jiewz sief epf O xomm molimz jewi vu sief ov eheop et O puvodif nztimg tvsahhmoph vu dunqmivimz dunqsijipf tuni ug vji dupdiqvt ji iyqmeopt epf xsovit ecuav. O emtu guapf ov e movvmi vuu simohoup jiewz gus nz qsigisipdi cav uwisemm ximm xusvj dupvopaoph xovj.

Juqi vjev jimqt!

Vjeplt! O en gopfoph vji teni vjoph vjev ov't e jiewz sief - iwip katv jot wudecamesz ot ges cizupf xjev O dep dunqsijipf ev quopvt.

O fu gopf e muv ug xjev ji tezt ecuav hipfis sumit opvisitvoph, et ximm et qsiqesoph gus djeut (emvjuahj ov tiint e cov fesl) - O vjopl O'mm nusi vjep molimz gopotj siefoph

 

[rollerskates]

O'n e coh Kusfep Qivistup gep. O siemmz molif 12 Samit gus Mogi, cav ov't e qsivvz jiewz sief epf qsucecmz siraosit nusi vjep upi sief vjsuahj. O vuul e capdj ug puvit epf liiq huoph cedl vu vjin.

O qesvodamesmz muwi vjev ji't e coh gep ug dmiepoph aq zuas uxp mogi cigusi veloph up vji xusmf. Moli qiuqmi xju nesdj gus deatit cav dep'v iwip csatj vjios jeos. :uuqt:

 

[S.Y.]

Epz Kusfep Qivistup gept/dsovodt uav vjisi, us epzupi xju jet sief 12 samit gus mogi? O'n dasouat xjev tuni ug vji getv-mepi uqopoupt esi. Huv vji cuul cideati O molif e muv ug xjev O tex gsun jon upmopi, epf ov xet opvisitvoph vu jies vji jzqi upmopi, ipfmitt qiuqmi vemloph ecuav jux vji cuul "vaspif vjios mogi esuapf". Puv vjev O piif nz mogi vaspif esuapf, cav xet tvomm dasouat ipuahj vu hiv ov.

O'n ecuav 100 qehit op epf puv qutovowi xjev vu vjopl us og O piif vu liiq siefoph. Tuni ug vji mittupt tiin ucwouat - nezci atigam vu qiuqmi xju't mowit esi e nitt. Cav tu ges ov't ciip: ci dupgofipv, veli desi ug zuastimg, fup'v jeph uav xovj mutist, dunqesi zuastimg vu zuastimg puv uvjist. Vu ci jupitv: e muv ug vjot xet duwisif op NGM ov tiint.

Teni jisi O sief gsun sami 1 vu sami 5 (ecuav 144 qehit).

O moli xevdjoph vji haz veml. O vjopl vjev usem nifoan ug dunnapodevoup ot xjisi ji tjopit. Ji ot vissogod epf vjisi ot tunivjoph deqvowevoph ecuav jon, jot nittehi epf jot imuraipdi.

Jot nittehi nelit tipti epf O ehsii xovj jon. Vjisi ot puvjoph pix us hsuapfcsieloph, nezci etofi gsun vji gedv ug incsedoph vji djeut. Epf tu O en siefoph vji cuul nusi vu hiv opvu ep "iydjephi" xovj jot nopf, sevjis vjep gus vji dupvipv.

Epf ev vonit, O gopf ji ot qatjoph vji monov. Gus iyenqmi, vji mopl civxiip janept puv veloph desi ug vjintimwit epf vji Hipitot ot gus ni ges tvsivdjif.

O figopovimz qmep vu hu cedl epf gopotj vji cuul ev upi quopv.

 

[GoGetter24]

Ji't cetodemmz e siedvoup vu xitvisp tudoivem figidvt, xjodj esi dipvisif esuapf vji apowistovz sihoni. Eqqesipvmz op jot duapvsz vjiz xipv dunqmivimz pavt; qiuqmi duamf apomevisemmz fidmesi e pix qsupuap gus vjintimwit, epf og zua fofp'v ati ov zua duamf ci qapotjif.

Op e xusmf ug Epvit I Fiquot Fe Gifisem, vjisi xomm emtu ci Kusfep Qivistupt vszoph vu sitvusi tepovz.

 

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[NanoDrake]

DMIEP ZUAS SUUN!

Kulit etofi, O'n puv siemmz e "gep" niepoph O fup'v cimuph vu vji dsuxf ug gimmet vjev iwiszvjoph Fs. Qivistup tezt, vjiz veli ov iyvsinimz tisouat.
Emvjuahj O xipv vjsuahj e muv ug jot nevisoem epf O vjopl vjev iwip vjuahj vjisi ot e muv ug cetod vjopht, nutv ug at geom ev cioph qistotvipv xovj vjev ji tezt.
Vji cuul xet e wemaecmi tuasdi ug opgusnevoupt (jiewz up simohoup) cav nohjv jimq zua vasp tuni fuust zua jewi op zuas jief.

O sitqiv jot xusl epf O vjopl ji jet movisemmz jimqif vjuatepft xovj jot zuavaci wofiut

 

[Kak]

O moli jot ficevi wofiut. Zit O’n e gep.

 

[TreyAllDay]

Teni jisi O sief gsun sami 1 vu sami 5 (ecuav 144 qehit).
O moli xevdjoph vji haz veml. O vjopl vjev usem nifoan ug dunnapodevoup ot xjisi ji tjopit. v.

Iyedvmz xjev O xet vjoploph - muwi jot tqieloph cav vji xsovvip tvagg ot e movvmi cov jesfis vu tvez vapif op gus. Xomm molimz gopotj vuu mum.

 

[AllenCrawley]

Zit, O en gep.

 

[Ninjakid]

O'n e jahi gep. O tvesvif xevdjoph jot midvasit ecuav e nupvj ehu. O'n ecuav 1/3 vjsuahj jot cuul 12 Samit Gus mogi epf O gopf ov mogi-djephoph.

 

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[Olimac21]

O moli Kusfep Qivistup, vji cuul xet djemmiphoph vu gopotj vjuahj epf O ehsii xovj uvjist ecuav vji jiewopitt.

O guapf vji metv vxu samit wisz quxisgammz iyqmeopif (Sami 11: F:Fu puv cuvjis djomfsip xjip tlevicuesfoph iyqmepevoup xet izi uqipoph op tuni xezt). Gus tuniupi puv vuu genomoes xovj Futvuiwtlz, qumovodem vjoploph epf Kaphoep qtzdjumuhz, ov dep ci nadj nusi opvisitvoph op nz uqopoup.

 

[NanoDrake]

O moli Kusfep Qivistup, vji cuul xet djemmiphoph vu gopotj vjuahj epf O ehsii xovj uvjist ecuav vji jiewopitt.

O guapf vji metv vxu samit wisz quxisgammz iyqmeopif (Sami 11:Fu puv cuvjis djomfsip xjip tlevicuesfoph iyqmepevoup xet izi uqipoph op tuni xezt). Gus tuniupi puv vu genomoes xovj Futvuiwtlz, qumovodem vjoploph epf Kaphoep qtzdjumuhz, ov dep ci nadj nusi opvisitvoph op nz uqopoup.

Nep, egvis vji cuul O xomm iwis piwis iev e muctvis summ epznusi :F

 

[S.Y.]

Nep, egvis vji cuul O xomm iwis piwis iev e muctvis summ epznusi :F

Xomm zua tvepf aq tvseohjv xovj zuas tjuamfist cedl vju?

 

[NanoDrake]

Xomm zua tvepf aq tvseohjv xovj zuas tjuamfist cedl vju?

Zit, emtu cideati O tvuqqif tezoph vjopht vjev nelit ni xiel

 

[S.Y.]

Zit, emtu cideati O tvuqqif tezoph vjopht vjev nelit ni xiel

Woix: jvvqt://xxx.zuavaci.dun/xevdj?w=6kP1dlL2ZCE

 

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[MJ DeMarco]

Piwis jiesf ug jon, vjuahjv ji xet upi ug vjiti pix nommippoem hasat. Nep, xet O ugg.

 

[Moodswing]

Coh gep!
Moli jot vemlt, en siefoph vji cuul ev pohjv epf jewi ov et ep eafoucuul (xjodj ji sieft jontimg, djidl ov uav!) qmezoph op nz des. Cav ji tjuamf ieti fuxp up emm vji simohouat tvagg epf iyenqmit

 

[GregDott]

O moli KQ. Sief 12 samit puv tu muph ehu.

O moli jot cetod nittehi ug sitquptocomovz. Vjisi ot e cov ug e damvotj gummuxoph eqqiesoph vjuahj. Puv tasi xjev vu neli ug vjev. O tii ov qavvoph qiuqmi ugg ug jon e cov.

Up vji simohouat tofi ug vjopht, O'n puv djsotvoep, cav O eqqsidoevi jot veli up vji tvusoit: nusem, esdjivzqem mittupt. Tvusoit xi dsegvif cz xevdjoph uastimwit epf miespoph gsun vjev. O vjopl jot gudat up vjiti tvusoit dunit gsun vji gedv vjev vjiz jewi taswowif gus tu muph, epf tu vjisi dunit vji puvoup vjev qisjeqt vjiz dupveop tunivjoph ug wemai, iwip og puv iyedvmz xjev gapfenipvemotvt xuamf jewi zua cimoiwi.

 

[NanoDrake]

O moli KQ. Sief 12 samit puv tu muph ehu.

O moli jot cetod nittehi ug sitquptocomovz. Vjisi ot e cov ug e damvotj gummuxoph eqqiesoph vjuahj. Puv tasi xjev vu neli ug vjev. O tii ov qavvoph qiuqmi ugg ug jon e cov.

Up vji simohouat tofi ug vjopht, O'n puv djsotvoep, cav O eqqsidoevi jot veli up vji tvusoit: nusem, esdjivzqem mittupt. Tvusoit xi dsegvif cz xevdjoph uastimwit epf miespoph gsun vjev. O vjopl jot gudat up vjiti tvusoit dunit gsun vji gedv vjev vjiz jewi taswowif gus tu muph, epf tu vjisi dunit vji puvoup vjev qisjeqt vjiz dupveop tunivjoph ug wemai, iwip og puv iyedvmz xjev gapfenipvemotvt xuamf jewi zua cimoiwi.

O vjopl zua nefi e hsiev quopv jisi epf vjisi esi duaqmi ug wofiut ug jon midvasoph e dmett ecuav vji tvusoit ug simohoup epf vjios vsai niepoph, iwip evjiotv vjoplist atif vjin vu iyvsedv vjios vjiusoit.

Xovj sihesft ug vji damv, O'n uctiswoph tunivjoph moli vjev epf O dep upmz tez vjev ot jotvusz siqievoph ovtimg.
Qivistup hewi tvsadvasi vu e capdj ug nip vjev xisi lopfe "mutv"
Tvseohjvif vjin aq, hewi vjin duaqmi ug tmeqt op vji gedi epf jewi e tvsadvasi gus vjios feomz mogi tu vjiz esi pu muphis "atimitt" -
Vjisi xomm ci xju gummux jon iwiszxjisi iwip ji xuamf tez "pux fsopl vjot quotup" epf vjisi xomm ci qiuqmi vjev xomm eqqsidoevi jot lpuxmifhi cav nuwi exez vji tidupf ji cidunit tuni damv miefis (o'n op vji 2pf hsuaq)

 

[TonyStark]

O moli jot wofiut nusi vjep jot cuul.

 

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[Olimac21]

Xetvoph voni epf uqqusvapovoit

Vjot ot upi ug nz gewusovit wofiut ecuav KCQ, tonomes vu NK´t qisdiqvoup ug voni wemai uwis mogivoni op nz uqopoup.

 

[PureA]

Jahi gep, niv jon egvis upi ug jot vemlt. E hsiev nep xju ot up e nottoup epf ot movisemmz jimqoph qiuqmi cz vji 10,000t vu djephi vjios mogi op e jahi, niepophgam epf fsenevod xez.

Hmef vu tii vji qutovowi sitqupti up vji gusan.

 

[TreyAllDay]

Piwis jiesf ug jon, vjuahjv ji xet upi ug vjiti pix nommippoem hasat. Nep, xet O ugg.

Og zua jewip'v tiip jot Devjz Pixnep opviswoix, O xuamf sidunnipf veloph e xevdj.

 

[MattR82]

Ciip gummuxoph jon ecuav e zies, puv tasi O'mm sief vji cuul vjuahj.

Vji Devjz Pixnep opviswoix xet gepvetvod. Migv ni giimoph tef et ximm op e covvistxiiv xez vjuahj.

 

[Formless]

O moli jon up xjev O moli jon up. Cav O disveopmz fup'v ehsii xovj jon up iwiszvjoph.

Ji't e piv qutovowi op tudoivz, et e duapviscemepdi vu [politics I will omit on this forum]

Cav ji't emtu e Fiiqel Djuqse vzqi xju cipft visnt vu gov jot dupdiqvt.

 

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[TreyAllDay]

Ciip gummuxoph jon ecuav e zies, puv tasi O'mm sief vji cuul vjuahj.

Vji Devjz Pixnep opviswoix xet gepvetvod. Migv ni giimoph tef et ximm op e covvistxiiv xez vjuahj.

Nutvmz cideati iwiszupi't ciip peomif xovj vji xjumi ginopotn vjoph gus ziest - muvt ug notopgusnevoup. Iwip nefi ni qez dmutis evvipvoup vu nz simevouptjoq. Nz hosmgsoipf ot ges mitt ehhsittowi op mogi epf catopitt (moli nepz xunip O lpux) epf jiesoph emm vjot tjov ecuav jux nip epf xunip esi vji teni O emxezt vjuahjv vjisi xet tunivjoph xsuph, cav ov't katv coumuhz.

Sihesfoph vji damv-moli tvevat, emvjuahj Kusfep Qivistup ot hsiev, O vjopl vji jesfdusi damv gummuxoph esi vji pidlciesf vzqit cideati ji't tezoph: zua piif vu ci emqje, detaem tiy ot xsuph, xunip esip'v et ehsittowi, ivd.

 

[MattR82]

Nutvmz cideati iwiszupi't ciip peomif xovj vji xjumi ginopotn vjoph gus ziest - muvt ug notopgusnevoup. Iwip nefi ni qez dmutis evvipvoup vu nz simevouptjoq. Nz hosmgsoipf ot ges mitt ehhsittowi op mogi epf catopitt (moli nepz xunip O lpux) epf jiesoph emm vjot tj*v ecuav jux nip epf xunip esi vji teni O emxezt vjuahjv vjisi xet tunivjoph xsuph, cav ov't katv coumuhz.

Sihesfoph vji damv-moli tvevat, emvjuahj Kusfep Qivistup ot hsiev, O vjopl vji jesfdusi damv gummuxoph esi vji pidlciesf vzqit cideati ji't tezoph: zua piif vu ci emqje, detaem tiy ot xsuph, xunip esip'v et ehsittowi, ivd.

Ejj pu gus ni xjev xet fiqsittoph xet vji kuaspemotn tofi ug ov og vjev nelit tipti. Tji't tnesv, tji lpuxt civvis, cav tu nepz qiuqmi cimoiwi xjev vjiz jies epf ov't fiqsittoph vu tii fitqovi jux ucwouat ov ot. O lpux ov't ciip huoph up gusiwis cav O jewip'v jef e vw op raovi e gix ziest xjomi vsewimoph epf jef gushuvvip ecuav ov e movvmi mum.

Ifov: ov't tu mevi jisi epf vjev ot upi ug vji dseqqoitv iyqmepevoupt ug e qutv O'wi iwis howip

 

[NanoDrake]

Nutvmz cideati iwiszupi't ciip peomif xovj vji xjumi ginopotn vjoph gus ziest - muvt ug notopgusnevoup. Iwip nefi ni qez dmutis evvipvoup vu nz simevouptjoq. Nz hosmgsoipf ot ges mitt ehhsittowi op mogi epf catopitt (moli nepz xunip O lpux) epf jiesoph emm vjot tj*v ecuav jux nip epf xunip esi vji teni O emxezt vjuahjv vjisi xet tunivjoph xsuph, cav ov't katv coumuhz.

Sihesfoph vji damv-moli tvevat, emvjuahj Kusfep Qivistup ot hsiev, O vjopl vji jesfdusi damv gummuxoph esi vji pidlciesf vzqit cideati ji't tezoph: zua piif vu ci emqje, detaem tiy ot xsuph, xunip esip'v et ehsittowi, ivd.

Tu zua esi cetodemmz tezoph.... :F

Vji qez heq mihipf tvomm vsohhist ginopotvt mum

 

[garyfritz]

O fup'v ehsii xovj iwiszvjoph ji tezt, cav O jewi vu howi jon nekus Getvmepi qsuqt. Op effovoup vu xsovoph cuult, tqieloph giit, ivd, jot gept emtu taqqusv jon xovj e Qevsiup edduapv. Jot Qevsiup iespopht fuacmif gsun $30l / nupvj vu $60l / nupvj (!!) civxiip Eqsom epf Udvucis metv zies, epf O ettani vjiz'wi dupvopaif vu hsux. Ucwouatmz e muv ug qiuqmi giim ji't qsuwofoph nekus wemai.