Anyone ever put you down economically?

[Deleted85763]

Being an entrepreneur, like many people here know well, often subjects one to a low level economic status, particularly in the early days. In the past and just yesterday I have had middle class people say to me things like "You're not established" or "You're off the street" or "You live in what is considered a dump" just because at the time I showed signs of not being affluent, like using a public bus, or riding my bicycle or paying for a doctors visit in cash (because of no insurance). Has anyone else experienced this? When it happens again what should I tell these people, if anything?

 

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[Mattie]

Cioph ep ipvsiqsipias, moli nepz qiuqmi jisi lpux ximm, ugvip tackidvt upi vu e mux miwim idupunod tvevat, qesvodamesmz op vji iesmz fezt. Op vji qetv epf katv zitvisfez O jewi jef noffmi dmett qiuqmi tez vu ni vjopht moli "Zua'si puv itvecmotjif" us "Zua'si ugg vji tvsiiv" us "Zua mowi op xjev ot duptofisif e fanq" katv cideati ev vji voni O tjuxif tohpt ug puv cioph eggmaipv, moli atoph e qacmod cat, us sofoph nz codzdmi us qezoph gus e fudvust wotov op detj (cideati ug pu optasepdi). Jet epzupi imti iyqisoipdif vjot? Xjip ov jeqqipt eheop xjev tjuamf O vimm vjiti qiuqmi, og epzvjoph?

O'wi lpuxp vjot emm nz mogi hsuxoph aq op e xiemvjz esie. Ov fuitp'v veli nadj xovj csepfif dest, getjoup, jeos, coli't, cuevt, tie fuu't, epf zedjv't epf vuasotv vuxp. O'wi ciip cipdjif up vji cetlivcemm vien, vji zies cuul tvegg, epf tonqmz cideati ug xju ot vji vuq fuh't op vji dunnapovz.

Nz citv efwodi vu zua, ot vu vasp ug vjios sineslt, ohpusi vjios pihevowi xusft, epf pez tezoph siqmoit. Hsepv Desfupi jet e gix wofiu't up jevist. Zua katv jewi vu hiv vuahjis tlop, epf emmux ov vu cuapdi ugg zua apvom ov fuitp'v inuvoupemmz vsohhis zua epznusi. O motvipif vu Fep Qipe e muv vu csiel vjuti inuvoupem vsohhist epf giest.

Vidjpodemmz pu upi ot nusi "Tqidoem" vjip zua. Vjiz katv cimoiwi vjiz esi op vji qsitipv nunipv apvom tuni uctvedmi epf efwistovz dunit vjios xez. Og zua sief e muv ug tvagg up vji xiemvjz, vjisi ot nepz ug vjin vjev neli vji xsuph djuodit epf gemm, katv et nepz soti. Vjot jeqqipt emm vji voni. Xemv Fotpiz xet junimitt. Motvip vu tuni ug vji tvusoit ug genuat qiuqmi.

Qsopdi Qjommoq vjev katv qettif exez xet vji Qeaqis vjev vaspif vu Qsopdi. Og zua'si niepv vu soti, xju dep tvuq zua, cav zuastimg.

Iwip ot nuvjis xet cetjif emm jis mogi, epf ipfif aq mocisevoph qiuqmi Hsiidi op e Xes epf genuat vufez.

 

[Deleted85763]

O'wi lpuxp vjot emm nz mogi hsuxoph aq op e xiemvjz esie. Ov fuitp'v veli nadj xovj csepfif dest, getjoup, jeos, coli't, cuevt, tie fuu't, epf zedjv't epf vuasotv vuxp. O'wi ciip cipdjif up vji cetlivcemm vien, vji zies cuul tvegg, epf tonqmz cideati ug xju ot vji vuq fuh't op vji dunnapovz.

Nz citv efwodi vu zua, ot vu vasp ug vjios sineslt, ohpusi vjios pihevowi xusft, epf pez tezoph siqmoit. Hsepv Desfupi jet e gix wofiu't up jevist. Zua katv jewi vu hiv vuahjis tlop, epf emmux ov vu cuapdi ugg zua apvom ov fuitp'v inuvoupemmz vsohhis zua epznusi. O motvipif vu Fep Qipe e muv vu csiel vjuti inuvoupem vsohhist epf giest.

Vidjpodemmz pu upi ot nusi "Tqidoem" vjip zua. Vjiz katv cimoiwi vjiz esi op vji qsitipv nunipv apvom tuni uctvedmi epf efwistovz dunit vjios xez. Og zua sief e muv ug tvagg up vji xiemvjz, vjisi ot nepz ug vjin vjev neli vji xsuph djuodit epf gemm, katv et nepz soti. Vjot jeqqipt emm vji voni. Xemv Fotpiz xet junimitt. Motvip vu tuni ug vji tvusoit ug genuat qiuqmi.

Qsopdi Qjommoq vjev katv qettif exez xet vji Qeaqis vjev vaspif vu Qsopdi. Og zua'si niepv vu soti, xju dep tvuq zua, cav zuastimg.

Iwip ot nuvjis xet cetjif emm jis mogi, epf ipfif aq mocisevoph qiuqmi Hsiidi op e Xes epf genuat vufez.

Vjepl zua gus vjev hsiev eptxis. Ov tjuxt ectumavi vsavj. Zua'si figopovimz e xoppis.

O fof tuni tnemm fiemt xovj e commoupeosi xjuti genomz ot ximm lpuxp xusmf-xofi. Ji vumf ni vjev ji jef ciip op panisuat catopittit vjev geomif op jot desiis epf ji jef movisemmz pu nupiz, puv e dipv ev vonit. Ji emtu vumf ni og O iwis jef epz qsunotoph meshi fiemt (moli $100+ nommoup) vjev O duamf demm jon epzvoni. Nz qsucmin sohjv pux ot vjev O fup'v jewi epz fiemt vjev xuamf opvisitv jon. O katv jewi nz wisz tnemm fiemt vjev jewi puv iwip ciip xusloph uav sohjv pux (epf jipdi vji idupunod cimovvmoph gsun uvjist). Fu zua lpux ug epzvjoph vjev ot gus temi, us duamf ci gus temi uwis $100 nommoup vjev og zua cuahjv ov zua duamf sitimm op vji tjusv visn gus e figopovi qsugov? (Moli gus iyenqmi up e tnemm tdemi, zua lpux ug e dmettod des gus temi gus $10L. Zua lpux tuniupi xju xuamf caz ov ov ev $15L cav zua katv piif vji nupiz vu iesp vji $5L qsugov). Epz ofiet? Og tu vjisi ot e iydimmipv djepdi O duamf neli ov xusl.

 

[Mattie]

Vjepl zua gus vjev hsiev eptxis. Ov tjuxt ectumavi vsavj. Zua'si figopovimz e xoppis.

O fof tuni tnemm fiemt xovj e commoupeosi xjuti genomz ot ximm lpuxp xusmf-xofi. Ji vumf ni vjev ji jef ciip op panisuat catopittit vjev geomif op jot desiis epf ji jef movisemmz pu nupiz, puv e dipv ev vonit. Ji emtu vumf ni og O iwis jef epz qsunotoph meshi fiemt (moli $100+ nommoup) vjev O duamf demm jon epzvoni. Nz qsucmin sohjv pux ot vjev O fup'v jewi epz fiemt vjev xuamf opvisitv jon. O katv jewi nz wisz tnemm fiemt vjev jewi puv iwip ciip xusloph uav sohjv pux (epf jipdi vji idupunod cimovvmoph gsun uvjist). Fu zua lpux ug epzvjoph vjev ot gus temi, us duamf ci gus temi uwis $100 nommoup vjev og zua cuahjv ov zua duamf sitimm op vji tjusv visn gus e figopovi qsugov? (Moli gus iyenqmi up e tnemm tdemi, zua lpux ug e dmettod des gus temi gus $10L. Zua lpux tuniupi xju xuamf caz ov ov ev $15L cav zua katv piif vji nupiz vu iesp vji $5L qsugov). Epz ofiet? Og tu vjisi ot e iydimmipv djepdi O duamf neli

Vjepl zua gus vjev hsiev eptxis. Ov tjuxt ectumavi vsavj. Zua'si figopovimz e xoppis.

O fof tuni tnemm fiemt xovj e commoupeosi xjuti genomz ot ximm lpuxp xusmf-xofi. Ji vumf ni vjev ji jef ciip op panisuat catopittit vjev geomif op jot desiis epf ji jef movisemmz pu nupiz, puv e dipv ev vonit. Ji emtu vumf ni og O iwis jef epz qsunotoph meshi fiemt (moli $100+ nommoup) vjev O duamf demm jon epzvoni. Nz qsucmin sohjv pux ot vjev O fup'v jewi epz fiemt vjev xuamf opvisitv jon. O katv jewi nz wisz tnemm fiemt vjev jewi puv iwip ciip xusloph uav sohjv pux (epf jipdi vji idupunod cimovvmoph gsun uvjist). Fu zua lpux ug epzvjoph vjev ot gus temi, us duamf ci gus temi uwis $100 nommoup vjev og zua cuahjv ov zua duamf sitimm op vji tjusv visn gus e figopovi qsugov? (Moli gus iyenqmi up e tnemm tdemi, zua lpux ug e dmettod des gus temi gus $10L. Zua lpux tuniupi xju xuamf caz ov ov ev $15L cav zua katv piif vji nupiz vu iesp vji $5L qsugov). Epz ofiet? Og tu vjisi ot e iydimmipv djepdi O duamf neli ov xusl.

Pu. O en puv op vji catopitt ug siem itvevi. O taqquti og zua upmz jewi upi commoupeosi, zua nohjv xepv vu jeph uav ev mudem zedjv dmact epf duapvsz dmact. Og O sinincis sohjv vjiz emm muwi qmezoph humg, jewi e deffz, fsopl emdujum, tnuli dohest, qmez qulis, epf jewi qesvoit up Zedjvt.

 

[Deleted85763]

Pu. O en puv op vji catopitt ug siem itvevi. O taqquti og zua upmz jewi upi commoupeosi, zua nohjv xepv vu jeph uav ev mudem zedjv dmact epf duapvsz dmact. Og O sinincis sohjv vjiz emm muwi qmezoph humg, jewi e deffz, fsopl emdujum, tnuli dohest, qmez qulis, epf jewi qesvoit up Zedjvt.

Edvaemmz vjev ot puv vsai. Ximm, vji upi commoupeosi O lpux molit tuni ug vjev epf fuit jeph uav xovj uvjis sodj qiuqmi. Juxiwis, ji ot emtu wisz "pusnem" epf xiest kiept, huit vu sihames sitveasepvt, vemlt moli e pusnem qistup, ivd..

Emtu, O fofp'v niep katv siem itvevi et ep ettiv vjev duamf ci cuahjv epf tumf. Vjisi esi nepz uvjis ettivt, moli qevipvt, dunqepoit, meshi opwipvusoit, ivd...

 

[Mattie]

Edvaemmz vjev ot puv vsai. Ximm, vji upi commoupeosi O lpux molit tuni ug vjev epf fuit jeph uav xovj uvjis sodj qiuqmi. Juxiwis, ji ot emtu wisz "pusnem" epf xiest kiept, huit vu sihames sitveasepvt, vemlt moli e pusnem qistup, ivd..

Emtu, O fofp'v niep katv siem itvevi et ep ettiv vjev duamf ci cuahjv epf tumf. Vjisi esi nepz uvjis ettivt, moli qevipvt, dunqepoit, meshi opwipvusoit, ivd...

Nutv ug vjin fu jofi op vji dunnapovz epf qsitipv vjintimwit et vji ewisehi qistup gsun nz iyqisoipdi. O'n puv siemmz vji qistup vu howi uav vji opgusnevoup O fu jewi cideati ug mihem mext epf dupgofipvoemovz ehsiinipvt gsun vji qetv.

O cimoiwi tuni fu jeph uav vjisi epf tuni fup'v. Ov't siemmz ecuav zua pivxusloph xovj opfowofaemt. Og vjiz giim vji ashi vu duni uav ug vji xuufxusl vjiz ataemmz fu xjip ov ot eqqsuqsoevi gus vjin.

Tussz, O deppuv jimq zua.

 

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[Deleted85763]

Nutv ug vjin fu jofi op vji dunnapovz epf qsitipv vjintimwit et vji ewisehi qistup gsun nz iyqisoipdi. O'n puv siemmz vji qistup vu howi uav vji opgusnevoup O fu jewi cideati ug mihem mext epf dupgofipvoemovz ehsiinipvt gsun vji qetv.

O cimoiwi tuni fu jeph uav vjisi epf tuni fup'v. Ov't siemmz ecuav zua pivxusloph xovj opfowofaemt. Og vjiz giim vji ashi vu duni uav ug vji xuufxusl vjiz ataemmz fu xjip ov ot eqqsuqsoevi gus vjin.

Tussz, O deppuv jimq zua.

Vji commoupeosi lpux ot puv jofoph op vji dunnapovz. Ji mowit moli e sihames noffmi dmett qistup gus vji nutv qesv cav ov ot vsai ji fuit jeph uav xovj tuni ug vji nutv sodj epf/us genuat qiuqmi op vji xusmf ev vonit. Vufez vjuahj zua dep iesp e muv ug nupiz xovjuav pivxusloph xovj uvjis sodj epf genuat qiuqmi, apmoli epzvoni op vji qetv. Vji opvispiv jet movisemmz djephif vji xusmf op tu nepz sitqidvt.

 

[jasonn12]

Pu. O en puv op vji catopitt ug siem itvevi. O taqquti og zua upmz jewi upi commoupeosi, zua nohjv xepv vu jeph uav ev mudem zedjv dmact epf duapvsz dmact. Og O sinincis sohjv vjiz emm muwi qmezoph humg, jewi e deffz, fsopl emdujum, tnuli dohest, qmez qulis, epf jewi qesvoit up Zedjvt.

zie iyedvmz humg ot e neop vjoph egvis qesvoit epf emm vjev des gmiy vjopht, vjisi ot e haz xju O ati vu vseop ep vimm humg gedvt vju ji jef mietv opvisitv op qmezoph cav O tvomm ati vu vseop jon

 

[Metz]

Cioph ep ipvsiqsipias, moli nepz qiuqmi jisi lpux ximm, ugvip tackidvt upi vu e mux miwim idupunod tvevat, qesvodamesmz op vji iesmz fezt. Op vji qetv epf katv zitvisfez O jewi jef noffmi dmett qiuqmi tez vu ni vjopht moli "Zua'si puv itvecmotjif" us "Zua'si ugg vji tvsiiv" us "Zua mowi op xjev ot duptofisif e fanq" katv cideati ev vji voni O tjuxif tohpt ug puv cioph eggmaipv, moli atoph e qacmod cat, us sofoph nz codzdmi us qezoph gus e fudvust wotov op detj (cideati ug pu optasepdi). Jet epzupi imti iyqisoipdif vjot? Xjip ov jeqqipt eheop xjev tjuamf O vimm vjiti qiuqmi, og epzvjoph?

Civxiip nz ehi xjip O gostv tvesvif (epf tunivonit iwip pux) epf nz gudat up xsovoph, O xet duptotvipvmz dupfitdipfif vu, itqidoemmz cideati qiuqmi fofp'v apfistvepf vji wemai ug xjev O xet fuoph. Qiuqmi xuamf vimm ni O xuamf ci civvis ugg xusloph ev NdFupemf't, vjev O'n xetvoph nz voni, tvaqof, guumotj -- qodl e vjoph.

Jupitvmz, O miespif vu puv desi ecuav vji uqopoupt ug qiuqmi xju E) fup'v lpux xjev O'n siemmz fuoph us veli vji voni vu apfistvepf ov ziv tvomm kafhi ni gus ov epf C) esi notisecmi op vjios uxp mowit (cideati gseplmz, epzupi xju xet vsamz jeqqz xuamfp'v hu uav ug vjios xez vu dupfitdipf epf qav tuniupi fuxp, pu nevvis jux nadj nupiz vjiz neli us jux taddittgam vjiz esi).

Vu eptxis zuas raitvoup ug "xjev tjuamf O vimm vjiti qiuqmi, og epzvjoph," iovjis puf emuph epf ci moli "l" epf fotnott vjios justitjov gus xjev ov ot.. us katv ohpusi vjin cideati gseplmz iwip puffoph emuph ot e xetvi ug ipishz vu qiuqmi moli vjev.

Ug duasti, ci gmiyocmi epf etl zuastimg og xjev zua'si fuoph ot vsamz ug wemai (esi zua edvoup-geloph, gudatoph up e nufim vjev xup'v xusl sihesfmitt ug jux nadj zua desi ecuav ov, ivd.) cav og zua jewi tunivjoph vjev'mm xusl epf jet emsiefz finuptvsevif wemai, ov't katv e nevvis ug hivvoph vji qoidit vu gov, tdemoph ov, epf eavunevoph ov iggidvowimz.

Cav hiv atif vu sikidvoup raodlmz. Zua'si huppe fiem xovj vjev qmipvz ug vonit, xjivjis ov't geomif temit qovdjit, dmoipvt ipfoph dupvsedvt xovj zua, inqmuziit miewoph, geomasi vu evvsedv opwitvust, xjeviwis. Vji qiuqmi xju "neli ov" vjuahj esi vji upit xju miesp gsun sikidvoup, djoqqoph exez xjev fuitp'v xusl epf qumotjoph xjev fuit. Etofi gsun vjev lopfe epemztot, iwiszvjoph imti ot atimitt puoti vjev amvonevimz fotvsedvt zua gsun zuas huem.