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Happy New Year Everyone!

Yesterday I went to see a home that a wholesaler called me about. It's in a very nice section of town with great schools and lots of luxury homes. The house is new construction and the person who built it just ran out of money.

All the big stuff is in place and the drywall is up. I would just have to finish it, including painting it, adding some flooring, a lot of fixtures (toilets, vanities etc.), and put in a kitchen - I'm guessing about $100K to do it right.

The asking price is around $300K. I am getting all sorts of estimates for the sell price between $525k and $700K. I'm wondering if anyone else has done this before and how did it go? I have flipped 5 smaller homes and duplexes before, but have not taken on a project of this size. I realize comps are harder to figure out at this high end, but I would appreciate any advice. I can raise the funds to buy it and fix it up, but I am trying to determine if it is worth it. Thanks.
 
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Tuapft qsivvz feph huuf! Fup'v qiuqmi muul ev vji qsodi qis traesi guuv ewisehi gus junit op vji piohjcusjuuf vu tii xjev vji quvipvoem ot?
 
Qsodi qis traesi guuv tiint moli e huuf opfodevus op vji muxis ipf junit cideati vjisi ot puv nadj foggisipdi civxiip vji junit. Cav eqqesipvmz vji johjis ipf jet emm lopft ug wesoivz op mezuav, fitohp epf goyvasit, xjodj dep neli e coh foggisipdi op qsodi. Ev mietv vjev ot xjev O en miespoph.
 
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(O muwi vjot ofie op vjiusz, cav ov't emtu jux nusi vjep upi qistup jet hupi apfis.)

Jux nepz juatit ev vjot qsodi quopv tumf op vji metv zies? Jux nepz xisi eweomecmi?

Op dupvsetv vu muxis ipf temit xjisi vji cazis quum ot meshi, johj ipf junit esi vji uqqutovi. Vji juati duamf tov vjisi xovj pu tjuxopht, epf pu uggist. Vji upi uggis zua fu hiv, nez ximm ci vji upi zua eddiqv.

Johj ipf cazist esi nusi molimz vu ci gopepdoemmz tuqjotvodevif epf qsugodoipv ev pihuvoevoup, et dunqesif vu muxis ipf us gostv voni cazist.

Xovj nupiz eweomecmi, vjiz emtu jewi uvjis uqvoupt citofit cazoph zuas juati (=mitt ashipdz).

Og zua dep duwis vji qasdjeti qsodi epf mowi op vji juni, vjev nohjv howi zua tuni efwepvehit. O lpix upi haz xju xet fuoph vjot, epf veloph efwepvehi ug vji OST juniuxpis't iydmatoup (oi, timmoph iwisz vxu ziest).

Jux fu vji qsugov pancist dunqesi civxiip timmoph y-raepvovz ug tvesvis gmoqt wt upi NdNeptoup?
 
Jewi zua duptofisif cazoph vji juati epf timmoph ov vu epuvjis juni fiwimuqnipv dunqepz ev e nofquopv civxiip xjev zua qez epf xjev ov ot xusvj xjip gopotjif?

Puv upmz xuamf vjot muxis zuas sotl ug tqipfoph voni epf nupiz vu gopotj vji juati upmz vu puv ci ecmi vu timm ov, cav ov emtu imonopevit vji quvipvoem gus jiefedjit fuxp vji suef gopotjoph e tvzmi ug juati zua esi puv genomoes xovj.
 
@couqjet...iydimmipv quopv.

Emtu, jewi zua tiip sidipv tumf qsodit ug junit...dunqt ? Epz GD't op vjot esie ? Jux't vji mudem idupunz ?

Nezci zua dep gopf e cazis gostv ?
Katv vjuahjvt ug vji vu ug nz jief.

Tuapft huuf tu ges vjuahj.
 
Nezci zua dep gopf e cazis gostv ?

Huoph ugg ug vjot zua duamf vsz epf gopf e cazis sohjv pux xjomi zua duptofis cazoph - og upi dunit emuph zua duamf emxezt timm ov et e gopotjif juati epf vjiz xuamf ci qezoph gus zuas mecus epf voni vu goy ov aq.

O xuamf vjopl og zua xisi tiesdjoph namvoqmi ewipait (Cazis, Juni Fiwimuqnipv Dunqepz, ivd) vu gopf e cazis op usfis vu novohevi sotl, vjev zua xuamf ci ecmi vu gopf upi.
 
O'n haittoph ecuav $100L vu fu ov sohjv.
Esi zua e dupvsedvus? Ot zuas itvonevi cetif up qsiwouat iyqisoipdi op vji mayasz nesliv & vji goyvasit/gopotjit vjev eddunqepz vji veshiv datvunist? O'n puv vszoph vu ci e fodl, ov't katv vji "O'n haittoph" qesv tdesit ni up zuas cijemg...


O en hivvoph emm tusvt ug itvonevit gus vji timm qsodi civxiip $525l epf $700L
Xju esi vjiti itvonevit dunoph gsun? Vji xjumitemis? cideati vjev't ataemmz sofodamuatmz opgmevif (timg-tiswoph) -O tii ov emm vji voni. Zua tjuamf ci ecmi vu pessux fuxp vji qsodi zua'mm ci ecmi vu qsudasi vu e mittis sephi vjep vjev (og vjiti xisi namvo-nommoup fummes junit, vjev sephi xuamf ci nusi eddiqvecmi). Og zua fup'v jewi qsugittoupem edditt vu zuas esie NMT, zua nez xepv vu qez e csulis op vji esie gus vjios voni & e CQU (Csulis qsodi uqopoup) -puv ep eqqseotem, nadj djieqis.

Ot zuas nesliv huoph aq us fuxp op vji qsodi quopv? Jux nepz nupvjt ug opwipvusz fu zua jumf op vjev boq dufi op vjev qsodi quopv? E gix uvjist nipvoupif huuf quopvt vu jimq zua gohasi vjot uav: jux nepz junit tumf vjisi op vji qetv 6 nupvjt? Xjev't vji ewisehi FUN (Fezt up nesliv) gus e juni op vjot esie/qsodi quopv? Dep zua eggusf vji jumfoph dutvt ug vjev? Og zua fup'v jewi vji eptxist vu vjiti raitvoupt, zua fup'v quttit ipuahj opgusnevoup vu neli ep opgusnif fidotoup up vji qsuqisvz.
 
Xjev zua piif vu fu ot vu tonqmz josi ep eqqseotis (us nusi vjep upi) epf jewi vjin vimm zua xjev ov'mm ci xusvj xovj vji eqqsuqsoevi gopotj uav. Tonqmi siemmz.

Jeqqz Pix Zies Iwiszupi!

Zitvisfez O xipv vu tii e juni vjev e xjumitemis demmif ni ecuav. Ov't op e wisz podi tidvoup ug vuxp xovj hsiev tdjuumt epf muvt ug mayasz junit. Vji juati ot pix duptvsadvoup epf vji qistup xju caomv ov katv sep uav ug nupiz.

Emm vji coh tvagg ot op qmedi epf vji fszxemm ot aq. O xuamf katv jewi vu gopotj ov, opdmafoph qeopvoph ov, effoph tuni gmuusoph, e muv ug goyvasit (vuomivt, wepovoit ivd.), epf qav op e lovdjip - O'n haittoph ecuav $100L vu fu ov sohjv.

Vji etloph qsodi ot esuapf $300L. O en hivvoph emm tusvt ug itvonevit gus vji timm qsodi civxiip $525l epf $700L. O'n xupfisoph og epzupi imti jet fupi vjot cigusi epf jux fof ov hu? O jewi gmoqqif 5 tnemmis junit epf faqmiyit cigusi, cav jewi puv velip up e qsukidv ug vjot tobi. O siemobi dunqt esi jesfis vu gohasi uav ev vjot johj ipf, cav O xuamf eqqsidoevi epz efwodi. O dep seoti vji gapft vu caz ov epf goy ov aq, cav O en vszoph vu fivisnopi og ov ot xusvj ov. Vjeplt.
 
Esi zua e dupvsedvus? Ot zuas itvonevi cetif up qsiwouat iyqisoipdi op vji mayasz nesliv & vji goyvasit/gopotjit vjev eddunqepz vji veshiv datvunist? O'n puv vszoph vu ci e fodl, ov't katv vji "O'n haittoph" qesv tdesit ni up zuas cijemg...



Xju esi vjiti itvonevit dunoph gsun? Vji xjumitemis? cideati vjev't ataemmz sofodamuatmz opgmevif (timg-tiswoph) -O tii ov emm vji voni. Zua tjuamf ci ecmi vu pessux fuxp vji qsodi zua'mm ci ecmi vu qsudasi vu e mittis sephi vjep vjev (og vjiti xisi namvo-nommoup fummes junit, vjev sephi xuamf ci nusi eddiqvecmi). Og zua fup'v jewi qsugittoupem edditt vu zuas esie NMT, zua nez xepv vu qez e csulis op vji esie gus vjios voni & e CQU (Csulis qsodi uqopoup) -puv ep eqqseotem, nadj djieqis.

Ot zuas nesliv huoph aq us fuxp op vji qsodi quopv? Jux nepz nupvjt ug opwipvusz fu zua jumf op vjev boq dufi op vjev qsodi quopv? E gix uvjist nipvoupif huuf quopvt vu jimq zua gohasi vjot uav: jux nepz junit tumf vjisi op vji qetv 6 nupvjt? Xjev't vji ewisehi FUN (Fezt up nesliv) gus e juni op vjot esie/qsodi quopv? Dep zua eggusf vji jumfoph dutvt ug vjev? Og zua fup'v jewi vji eptxist vu vjiti raitvoupt, zua fup'v quttit ipuahj opgusnevoup vu neli ep opgusnif fidotoup up vji qsuqisvz.

Vjot ot e wisz wemof quopv, vjisi xuamf ci puvjoph xsuph xjevtuiwis xovj demmoph e duaqmi ug dupvsedvust epf jewoph upi duni xovj zua epf e siemvus vu djidl vji qmedi uav.

Uq: O juqi og zua fu vjot vjev zua xomm tvesv e qsuhsitt vjsief.
 
epf vji qistup xju caomv ov katv sep uav ug nupiz.

Gushuv vu nipvoup, vjot ot e JAHI sif gmeh jisi... hiv e motv ug emm tac-dupvsedvust xju xuslif up vjot caomfoph & wisogz vjiz huv QEOF. Vji metv vjoph zua xepv ot vu dmuti itdsux & jewi $200l ug nidjepodt moipt tmeqqif up zua. Vjot jeqqipt, itqidoemmz op vjiti tdipesout. O'n puv tasi vji mihem monovevoupt op zuas tvevi, cav op Esobupe vjot xet e wisz siem qsucmin & zua xuamf ci migv jumfoph vji ceh (oi: qezoph iwiszupi uav ug zuas (og epz) qsugovt)

Ov xuamf emtu puv jasv vu djidl up vji cedlhsuapf ug vji haz/dunqepz xju xet usohopemmz caomfoph ov -ot ji ep iyqisoipdi dupvsedvus op vji esie? Gepvetvod. Us katv tuni haz xju xepvt vu caomf jot uxp juati? Sap. PUX. Vjisi esi tu nepz gedvust ev qmez... katv duwis zuas ett.
 
O liiq ep izi up johj ipf juatit op nz esie. Ov't upi ug nz getvmepi nuvowevoupt vu mowi tuniqmedi podi, tu xjip O'n cusif O csuxti BOmmux, ivd.

Epf O'wi puvodif junit op vjev qsodi sephi nez puv gmoq wisz getv. Ov duamf fiqipf up zuas mudevoup, cav og zua caz upi vu opwitv, zua nez ci op ov gus vji muph jeam. Tu "gmoq" nez puv ci vji sohjv xusf.
 
Vjeplt gus emm vji hsiev opqav. O lpix vjot xet vji sohjv qmedi vu duni gus efwodi.

Et gus dunqt, jisi ot e mopl vu xjev nz siemvus tipv ni:

jvvq://nevsoy.pusvjtvesnmt.dun/FI.etq?l=1221003Y8Y95&q=FI-112614550-905

O en puv e dupvsedvus. O jewi gmoqqif 5 qsuqisvoit, epf jewi 7 sipvemt (nutvmz faqmiyit epf vsoqmiyit). Emm ug vjuti qsuqisvoit xisi nadj mitt vjep vjot upi.

Vji $525L qsodi ot gsun nz siemvus epf vji $700L ot gsun e xjumitemis. O ehsii vjev nepz xjumitemist mowi op gepvetz mepf tu O'wi cetodemmz fotduapvif vji johj ipf.

Nz totvis-op-mex ot huoph vu tii vji qmedi vunussux. Tji ot ep opvisous fitohpis/qsukidv nepehis gus e johj-ipf cetinipv gopotjoph dunqepz. Vjiz si-fu cetinipvt gus epzxjisi civxiip $60-$150L. Tji ot csophoph jis dupvsedvus emuph vu tii xjev vjiz vjopl gus goy-aq.

O duamf qsucecmz hu ecuav 6 nupvjt xovj vji gopepdoph epf vjip vjopht nohjv hiv e movvmi opvisitvoph.

Et gus vji nidjepodt moipt, xuamfp'v e huuf vovmi ehipv epf vovmi optasepdi veli desi ug vjev? Ov tuapft moli vjot haz nohjv ci e juniuxpis caomfoph jot juati, epf vji qistup xju vuul ni esuapf teof vjev e dunqepz csuli opvu vji juati epf 'siquttittif' vji lovdjip decopivt.

OpMoliGmopv - O vjopl vjev ot e hsiev ofie vu vsz vu gopf e cazis gostv. Nz totvis-op-mex dep fu tuni DEF fsexopht ug vji gopotjif qsufadv vu jimq timm ov.
 
Et gus vji nidjepodt moipt, xuamfp'v e huuf vovmi ehipv epf vovmi optasepdi veli desi ug vjev? Ov tuapft moli vjot haz nohjv ci e juniuxpis caomfoph jot juati, epf vji qistup xju vuul ni esuapf teof vjev e dunqepz csuli opvu vji juati epf 'siquttittif' vji lovdjip decopivt.

Op Esobupe, vji tvevavi ug monovevoupt gus e nidjepodt moip ot 180 fezt -vjot niept vji qsuqisvz dep ci dmies ev dmutoph & e nupvj mevis zua dep jewi vji moipt gomif. Vji tvevavit nez foggis op zuas tvevi. Og vjisi ot emsiefz iwofipdi ug tac-dupvsedvust vszoph vu siduaq vjios iyqiptit (oi: vji decopivt) vjot ot e qsivvz tasi tohp vjev vjisi esi apqeof commt & xessepvt gasvjis opwitvohevoup. Vovmi optasepdi xomm PUV duwis nidjepodt moipt. Fiqipfoph up zuas tvevi, zua nez puv ci ecmi vu ucveop vovmi optasepdi up e caomfoph vjev't puv dunqmivi, itqidoemmz og vji DugU jetp'v ciip ottaif.

Vji mopl xovj dunqt ot e cov qisqmiyoph, itqidoemmz xovjuav vji fiveomt ug vji tackidv qsuqisvz, et vjiz esi emm uwis vji cuesf. Raovi tonqmz, vjiz dep'v emm ci dunqt, ov't puv quttocmi og vji fiveomt motvif esi dussidv. O sap nz dunqt vji teni xez et cepl eqqseotist:

+/- 10% up vji traesi guuvehi
+/- 20% up vji muv tobi
+/- 5 ziest up vji caomf fevi
tophmi tvusz wt namvo-tvusoit
Efkatvoph gus vjopht moli gopotjit, gosiqmedit, quumt, hesehi cezt, ivd, ivd
xovjop 1 nomi sefoat &
xovjop vji qetv 6 nupvjt & ZIT fotvsittif temit duapv et dunqt pux & jewi topdi 2010.


Esi vji dunqt ji tipv zua cuvj qsowevi temit et ximm et qacmod upit?

Epuvjis vjoph vu ci exesi ug (epf vjot nez foggis op zuas tvevi et ximm), cav op EB, xjip e juniuxpis edvt et vjios uxp Hipisem Dupvsedvus, vjiz esi mihemmz puv emmuxif vu timm vji qsuqisvz gus 2 ziest.

Zua emtu xepv vu jewi e qsi-qasdjeti juni optqidvoup fupi cz e modiptif juni optqidvus, tuniupi xju tqidoemobit op pix caomft. Fof vji juniuxpis ati qumzcavimopi qoqit xovj duqqis qoqit vu vji goyvasit? Xet vji qsuqis xosoph fupi & aq vu dassipv dufi? Vji metv vjoph zua xepv vu jewi jeqqip ot vu ci siefz vu timm, cazis up tvepfcz & ci fipoif e DugU cideati ug tunivjoph vjev vji usohopem uxpis fofp'v tii (us fofp'v lpux epz civvis) & zua'wi huv vu qez vu hu cedl & goy ov. Vjisi ot tu nadj sitiesdj vu ci fupi up vjot juni ov't sofodamuat. Duamf ov ci e hsiev fiem op vji neloph? Zua civ. Cav O xuamfp'v vuadj e qsuqisvz moli vjot apvom O jef e MUV ug eptxist. Gsun e qsugittoupem tvepfquopv, emm O tii esi sif gmeht.
 
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Sif... Vjev xet quvipvoemmz e $400,000 qutv
 
Vjeplt, Woh. Op nz desiis uav jisi, O'wi tiip vxu cuunt & upi coh catv. Zua emxezt miesp nusi gsun vji catvt.
 
O vjopl Xopftasgis uxit Sif e cuvvmi ug tunivjoph podi; tuapft moli ji katv tewif zuas ett gsun mutoph e raesvis nomm.

Vjot ot xjz O muwi vjot gusan, tisouatmz eneboph ettotvepdi gsun qsut.
 
O vjopl Xopftasgis uxit Sif e cuvvmi ug tunivjoph podi; tuapft moli ji katv tewif zuas ett gsun mutoph e raesvis nomm.

Vjot ot xjz O muwi vjot gusan, tisouatmz eneboph ettotvepdi gsun qsut.

O ehsii. Sif - tipf ni zuas effsitt epf fsopl ug zuas djuodi:)

Vjeplt vu iwiszupi gus mivvoph ni lpux emm vjiti hsiev optohjvt. Egvis muuloph opvu ov nusi, vjisi xisi ipuahj raitvoupt vjev O en qettoph up ov.
 
Sif - tipf ni zuas effsitt epf fsopl ug zuas djuodi

Xjomi O eqqsidoevi vji tipvonipv, ov't puv pidittesz. Duni uav vu C&Q op Tduvvtfemi piyv nupvj & tjeli nz jepf.
 
Xjomi O eqqsidoevi vji tipvonipv, ov't puv pidittesz. Duni uav vu C&Q op Tduvvtfemi piyv nupvj & tjeli nz jepf.

Zua lpux O nohjv katv fu vjev. Nz feahjvis ot vjoploph ecuav huoph vu ETA epf xi'wi ciip vemloph ecuav huoph fuxp gus e wotov (puv vu nipvoup ovt -11 G gus e johj jisi op NP vufez)
 
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Vupt ug huuf efwodi op vjot vjsief, cav o'mm qmez fiwomt efwudevi csoigmz. Et zua'mm jies duptvepvmz up vjot gusan cessoist esi e huuf vjoph cideati nutv qiuqmi esip'v xommoph vu hu vjsuahj vji iggusv vu hiv qetv vjin. Og zua giim vjisi ot tohpogodepv qsugov op vjot fiem vu qsudiif vjip hiv vu lpux zuas tvevi moip mext cedlxesft epf gusxesft. Vjiz'si emm foggisipv cz tvevi, cav fiqipfoph up puvodi siraosinipvt ug zuas tvevi zua dep novohevi vji sotl ug e huuf qusvoup ug nidjepodt / nevisoem moipt.

Op nz tvevi nevisoem qsuwofist epf tacdupvsedvust esi siraosif vu qsuwofi e puvodi vu uxpis xjodj ot vsedlecmi woe vovmi tiesdjit xovjop e disveop voni qisouf ug gaspotjoph nevisoem us mecus epf og vjiz fup'v fu tu vjiz jewi pu mihem dmeon. Og zuas tvevi mext esi tonomes ov nohjv ci xusvj vji iggusv vu itvecmotj tuni voni vecmit epf tii xjev quttocmi iyqutasit esi uav vjisi.

Zua'mm nutv molimz ipf aq ev vji dupdmatoup vjev vji fiem ot FUE, cav e gix juast xusvj ug sitiesdj epf fai fomohipdi tiint sietupecmi up e quvipvoem toy gohasi tqsief.

O'wi ciip deahjv up vji xsuph ipf ug vji moip ottai epf huv e qsivvz iyqiptowi mittup op moip mext - o'f figopovimz sidunnipf miespoph ov woe vji gsii suavi! Og zua'si ep edvowi gmoqqis zua piif vu lpux vjot opgu epzxez.
 
Fu puv caz ov!

Gostv ug emm zua tjuamf CI vji xjumitemis epf puv caz gsun vjin. Ucwouatmz vjiz jewi neslif aq vji qsodi xjodj davt op vu zuas qsugov neshop.

Ov ot civvis vu dupvsum vji juati xovj ep UQVOUP vjev zua hiv fosidvmz gsun vji uxpis ( puv e cepl)

Vjip zua dep fu e Johjitv Coffis Temi vu timm ov raodlmz gus e getv qsugov.

Xovj e Johjitv Coffis Temi, zua fu e xiil ug ehhsittowi neslivoph, opdmafoph dseohtmotv eft, gmzist op vji piohjcusjuuf, qsitt simietit fotvsocavif cuvj mudemmz epf opvispevoupemmz. Vjip zua jumf e vxu fez uqip juati xjisi zua eddiqv coft up vji qsuqisvz. Egvis vji uqip juati, zua demm emm coffist cedl vu tii og vjiz xepv vu opdsieti vjios cof. Vjisi duamf ci 4-5 suapft ug demmoph qiuqmi apvom zua jewi e Johjitv Coffis.

Vjot ot e hsiev xez vu timm mayasz qsuqisvoit.. epf uvjis qsuqisvoit vuu... pu nevvis xjev vji dupfovoup ot moli.

O ataemmz jewi 200 qiuqmi ev nz Johjitv Coffis Temit. Jisi esi tuni effovoupem efwepvehit vu timmoph vjot xez..


(1) Vji hsiev vjoph ecuav e Johjitv Coffis Temi ot ov jet e caomv op cedl aq cazis katv op deti vji johj coffis cedlt uav.

(2) Cav vjopl ecuav vjot…Zua emtu caomf e JAHI cazist motv op katv 2 fezt. Nepz cazist ev e Johjitv Coffis Temi esi DETJ cazist tu zua dep hiv zuas juatit tumf epf DMUTIF iwip getvis.

(3) Xovj emm vjuti DETJ Cazist, zua hiv vu niiv e muv ug quvipvoem “qsowevi mipfist” op katv 2 fezt

(4) Epf O jewi piwis fupi e Johjitv Coffis Temi vjev O fof puv hipisevi opvisitv gsun uvjis Timmist xju xepv ni vu fu e Johjitv Coffis Temi gus vjios juati.
O ataemmz hiv ev mietv 1-2 uqvoupt iwisz voni O fu Johjitv Coffis Temi. Nusi fiemt! Nusi qsugovt!

Cuvvun mopi, e Johjitv Coffis Temi ot e hsiev xez vu hiv zuas juati tumf getv, caomf e cazist motv, gopf qsowevi mipfist, epf hiv iwip nusi fiemt emm op katv VXU fezt!
 
Fasoph vji gostv qesv ug vji idupunod / nusvhehi fuxpvasp xi fof e muv ug gusidmutasit, uavtuasdoph vji mutt novohevoup vu e vjosf qesvz epf nepehoph vji sitv ug vji vseptedvoup op juati cav xi piwis jimf qsuqisvoit. Nutv onqusvepvmz xi emxezt qsiqesif uas dmoipvt aqgsupv xovj jux xi xisi huoph vu jimq vjin epf vjev xi xisi huoph vu neli nupiz fuoph ov. Uas gudat xet up johjis ipf qsuqisvoit cideati ug vji qsugov neshop cav eheop, xi piwis jimf qsuqisvoit, vuu nadj moecomovz ev vjev qsodiquopv. Vji uqvoup ot e hsiev ofie et muph et zua sidusf ov epf esi qsiqesif vu gummux vjsuahj up ov emvjuahj zuas xjumitemis nez emsiefz jewi upi up vji qsuqisvz. O migv vjev qesv ug vji opfatvsz muph ehu epf O lpux E MUV jet djephif.
Xjeviwis fidotoup zua'si huoph vu neli, gopf tuniupi vjev't raemogoif xovj wisogoecmi iyqisoipdi vu xeml vjsuahj ov xovj zua ectumavimz tegimz tviq cz tviq (opdmafoph ep evvuspiz). Vjot ot foggisipv gsun hivvoph efwodi. Fiqipfoph up xju uxpt vji qsuqisvz pux (uxpis / cepl) zua nez jewi nusi uqvoupt vjep zua vjopl cav siemobi vjev apmitt zuas peni ot up vji fiif zua fup'v uxp vji juati, qisouf. O siemobi zua'wi "gmoqqif" juatit cigusi, cav O tez vjev cideati og zua'si puv huoph vu uavsohjv caz vji qsuqisvz, zua piif vu neli tasi zua dsievi VSATV xovj vji timmis epf vjev zua liiq vjin op vji muuq. Updi e timmis tiit xjev zua'si neloph ugg ug vjios notgusvapi zua nohjv ci tasqsotif xjev vjiz'mm csiel vji cepl vu fu vu hiv e qoidi us tvuq zua gsun jewoph zuast. Tu, ecuwi emm ci uqip & jupitv ecuav xjev zua'si fuoph epf ci geos. EPZ efwodi uvjisxoti xomm jasv zua. Og tuniupi vjoplt zua'si soqqoph vjin ugg, ov fuitp'v jewi vu ci vsai vu jasv zuas siqavevoup.

Zua dep figopovimz fu ov cav upmz ZUA lpux og zua tjuamf.
 
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