App Developer Networking Group

[Hadrian]

Greetings Fastlaners!

Indie App dev from Ireland here... I see more and more threads asking about apps so I though I'd create a shared space for us to chat and bounce ideas around. I'll try to get some established professional software dev's to give their input as well. I hope it will provide some value and prevent some of you from spending thousands of dollars needlessly.



My Top Tips:

1.) Basically if your idea is a simple front end app it shouldn't cost the earth (1-5k) to make so go for it! I'd start off with a small app anyway as there is SO much to learn re. Apple iTunes/Google Play developer consoles etc.

2.) If its a more complicated back-end server based app it may well cost a LOT more (5-50k) so don't make it until you are sure there is a need and a market for your product. (Firebase and other similar software are now making this cheaper but you have to factor in scaling where the real costs will be).

3.) Typically 80% of App Revenue comes from iOS/Apple, 20% from Android/Google. This has been changing for the big players with big marketing budgets, but for indie dev's its better to start with iOS and move to Android when you validate the product and market. Note: Ad revenue has been falling sharply across the board!

4.) There is various software that allows you to make an interactive demo. I use Proto.io but its only one of several that allow you to have a phone mock-up app to give to users to play with. Make sure to use Mock-ups/Specs and if possible an interactive prototype. Do this first before you go anywhere near a dev!
Examples: (Balsamic/Adobe XD/Figma/Sketch). You can even hire someone to make this for you cheaply.

5.) Hiring individual developers is a difficult and risky process no matter where you go, East or West. West is expensive, East is messy. I've been burned by both. Using an App Agency is easier and safer but more expensive.

6.) If you plan on Outsourcing this is the best website: www.Upwork.com (NB. Use Fixed Payment Option and Fixed Milestones) as they use an escrow milestone payment option... its the only safe way to deal with developers.

7.) If you're going into this full on you're better off learning to code yourself and allocating 3-5 years.
It's far easier cracking code than cracking heads! (Check out Lambda School and App Academy below)

8.) Never Pay in full in advance. I cannot underline how stressful it is as an indie dev having no leverage and if you pay in advance you'll be put at the bottom of the agenda or get no code back at all.

9.) Most Important: Marketing is 90% of the battle. A difficult learning lesson as most Indie dev's are just ordinary guys/gals and it takes everything we have just to make the App!

10.) Run a COMPLETE Competitor analysis to determine if you have an idea worth pursuing. If you have no competition you probably don't know the app market well enough or there is no market. Check the competitor app reviews using Sensortower or App Annie. If there’s a constant stream of requests for your new feature/idea you’ve got something!

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-RQ16TOz8w

11.) Don't create an app that needs an audience from the get go e.g. a dating app. It will be a Herculean task to make it a success and if you do the big players will just rip you off anyway. The Big Dating Apps Are Alienating Their Stakeholders

12.) Devs typically wont steal your idea as making the app is only 10% of the journey. Don't worry too much about NDA's as they're only useful if you have the time (years) and money ($1000's) to prosecute them. (Still try to get one if you can)

13.) Cross Platform Code (Unity/Flutter/ReactNative etc.) is an option for many but has Pro's and Con's.
Pro: You can launch on both iOS and Android saving dev costs. Con: The more complex the app the less it can do. Reports vary but Eric from Overpass Apps goes into this in more detail.

14.) No-Code: I'm not familiar with No-Code software like The best way to build web apps without code | Bubble but I will post links to any good threads and comments below.

15.) PWA (Progressive Web Apps): These are basically websites converted into apps. Pro: You have Full control of the app. Con: There is no app store for these and you can't put them into Apple or Androids App Stores.

Super Progressive Web Apps

SuperPWA helps you convert your WordPress website into a Progressive Web App instantly.

wordpress.org

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Before you begin please check out these two useful beginner videos:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypWgQ8HtpTU

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvP0RjDB3bE



2 Great Resources to get some feedback on your idea before you spend any money:

Startup School - The Best Online Resource for Founders

Learn how to start a company with help from the world's top startup accelerator - Y Combinator.

www.startupschool.org

Pioneer

Pioneer is a startup accelerator for ambitious outsiders. We've funded 150+ companies with 300+ founders in 50+ countries. We're no longer making new investments.

pioneer.app

~ If you have a little money then create a landing page and run some traffic to it to see if you get signups for your product idea.



3 Great YouTube Channels worth following as both are suitable for beginners:

App Masters for App design, ASO Audits, Marketing and Feedback:

https://www.youtube.com/c/AppMasters

Overpass Apps for Cross Platform Coding, App Ecosystem analysis, and Software development:

Overpass Apps

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www.youtube.com

Tiff in Tech (How to become a Full Stack Developer):

https://www.youtube.com/user/charnelle6

Coding Training Courses:

Bloom Institute of Technology | Online Coding Bootcamp

Get the skills to land a job in the tech industry in BloomTech’s online programs (formerly Lambda School). Learn about our Tuition Refund Guarantee!

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Online Full-Time Coding Bootcamp - App Academy

Become a software engineer and pay $0 until you're hired with App Academy's full-time, online coding bootcamp. Find out more and apply today.

www.appacademy.io

6 schools that don't require tuition until you get a job

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iOS Developer Course I Become an iOS Developer | Udacity

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Google Offers A Free Crash Course In Android Development | TechCrunch

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Kind Regards,


Hadrian the Celt

PS ~ Apps are NOT a get rich quick business!

PPS ~ Remember 90% of the game is marketing, the Queen of MJ's chessboard!

 

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[Hadrian]

QN'oph emm vjuti xju iyqsittif ep opvisitv op Eqq Fiw. Qmieti ohpusi og zua'si puv opvisitvif.

@Ofieqjusoe @muuq101 @fsejb @Seke @getvmepifumm @Noli Tvuoep @dufiraebe @Misup @Idjpo @Nahip09 @emiylabnuw @MitmoiJemcistvef @UwisCzvi @eraomesegeim @mevvisfeztenaseo @MusfHepup @vjidjutip1 @tsufsohu @Kfit91 @Kup M @tgesoiso @pusnemgsii @Gis Wise @dmeafil @qivisc0zf @Noli M @404qsuguapf @Vun J. @enba @Lseimuh @Csapu11 @gmusofenep @Noli Tvuoep @CsuulmzpJatvmi @Esv Wepfimez @Podl V @FsTdsien @NeyV @NEVA @cisszfiw @efeeeen @GetvNepDutvop @bepu @C_Ned @NsVsetj757 @TenJemip @TIUhaz @100l @Seccz @Djsotvzhsacis124 @Tivjenat @Ovtniepvupout @IpvsiqsiPisf @Polove

 

[Raja]

QN'oph emm vjuti xju iyqsittif ep opvisitv op Eqq Fiw. Qmieti ohpusi og zua'si puv opvisitvif.

@Ofieqjusoe @muuq101 @fsejb @Seke @getvmepifumm @Noli Tvuoep @dufiraebe @Misup @Idjpo @Nahip09 @emiylabnuw @MitmoiJemcistvef @UwisCzvi @eraomesegeim @mevvisfeztenaseo @MusfHepup @vjidjutip1 @tsufsohu @Kfit91 @Kup M

Vjeplt gus tjesoph, opovoemmz o fofp'v sief vji qsiwouat qutv.

 

[Hadrian]

Upi ug vji citv eptxist up jisi deni gsun e qsugittoupem tugvxesi fiwimuqis Kup M
O juqi ji xup'v nopf ni qutvoph jot eptxis:

@Kup M

Tugvxesi fiwimuqnipv ot ep onniptimz foggodamv apfisveloph. O sap e tnemm tugvxesi fiwimuqnipv dunqepz, epf O tvsahhmi vu liiq aq xovj iwiszvjoph. O fup'v duptofis nztimg e qsuhsennis, cav O'wi fiwimuqif tuni tvagg cigusi up nz uxp. O lpux ipuahj vu ci fephisuat. O fu lpux feveceti fitohp fidipvmz ximm, tu vjev ot jux O liiq nz fiwimuqist op mopi. O xomm veli e muul ev vji feveceti demmt, vji tvsadvasi ug vji vecmit, ivd., epf gsun vjev dep hiv e qsivvz fidipv ofie ug xjev ot huoph up op vjios dufi. O simz up nz mief fiwimuqis vu nepehi iwiszvjoph imti. O fu muul ev vji dufi qisoufodemmz. O'wi jimqif ficah tvagg epf up uddetoup en iwip atigam op nz iggusvt.

Emm vjev teof, xjev O fu jewi ot ep ecomovz vu vjopl muhodemmz, gsun vji coh qodvasi vu vji tnemm fiveomt. O lpux hipisemmz xjev tugvxesi dep fu: xjev ot ietz gus ov, epf xjev ot foggodamv. O ati vjot lpuxmifhi vu fitohp qsufadvt vjev niiv dmoipvt' piift xovjuav csieloph vjios cafhiv.

E pancis ug ziest ehu, OCN epf e duaqmi uvjis dunqepoit fof e tvafz xjisi vjiz muulif ev vji datvun tugvxesi nesliv. Qsukidvt apfis $20n, vjiz duptofisif tnemm. Tnemm fiwimuqnipv qsukidvt geomif, uavsohjv, 2/3 ug vji voni. Cz 'geomif,' vjiz niepv, 'vji tztvin xet piwis qav opvu muph-visn ati.' Xjev edduapvif gus vji wetv nekusovz ug vjuti geomasit? Quus tztvin fitohp. PUV quus dufoph. Ov xet e medl ug apfistvepfoph ug vji qsucmin vjiz xisi vszoph vu tumwi vjev fosidvmz deatif vji geomasi.

Xjz fu O tez emm vjot? Nutv qiuqmi hiv tugvxesi fiwimuqnipv cedlxesft: vjiz Huuhmi "Jux vu dufi," epf hiv tvesvif up vjios qsukidv. Vjot ot e hsiev xez vu miesp vu dufi. Ovt ot PUV e hsiev xez vu caomf e taddittgam qsukidv, apmitt zua moli sixsovoph tugvxesi gus ziest up ipf.

Vji xez vu caomf e taddittgam qsukidv ot vu:

1) qodl vji sohjv qsucmin vu tumwi (ietois teof vjep fupi)
2) Gammz apfistvepf vji qsucmin epf ovt tumavoup (emtu ietois teof vjep fupi)
2c) Gohasi uav jux vu nesliv vji tumavoup - neslivoph opgmaipdit fitohp epf wodi wiste
3) Fitohp e tumavoup vu vji qsucmin vjev ot ietz vu dufi epf vjev nelit huuf djuodit ecuav xjisi vu tqipf fiwimuqnipv iggusv
4) Fu vji edvaem dufoph
5) Vitv & simieti vji qsufadv
6) Nesliv
7) Caomf taqqusv tztvint esuapf vji qsufadv
8) Miesp gsun zuas notvelit epf ovisevi

Et zua vjopl ecuav zuas qsukidv, neli tasi zua tqipf ipuahj voni up tviqt 1-3.

O vzqodemmz simz up nz dmoipvt vu ci iyqisvt op tviqt 1-2, tu O'n puv vji citv qistup vu etl ecuav xjev vu fu vjisi. Nezci uvjis qiuqmi dep djoni op up vjev?

Ifov: ov uddast vu ni vjev tviqt 1-3 esi opvisfiqipfipv. Qodloph e qsucmin vjev xomm dutv ev mietv $100N vu tumwi atoph tugvxesi otp'v huuf. Fitohpoph e neslivoph tvsevihz vjev simoit up dufi vjev ot iyqiptowi vu caomf/neopveop otp'v huuf. Fitohpoph e tumavoup vjev dep'v ci neslivif ietomz otp'v huuf iovjis. Zua jewi vu iovjis ci siemmz huuf ev emm vjuti vjopht, us xusl dmutimz xovj qiuqmi vjev esi.

:camc:

 

[Hadrian]

Epuvjis Quv ug Humf gsun @Kup M

Jisi't xjev O'f fu: tvesv uav xovj e Afinz duasti katv vu hiv zuas giiv xiv, cav vjip josi tuniupi up Aqxusl uwistiet vjev djeshit $20/js.

Xjz vjev sevi? $20/js uwistiet ot e MUV ug nupiz. Zua'mm hiv tuniupi huuf.

Fup'v ati vjin vu edvaemmz qsuhsen, vjuahj. Ati vjin vu etl raitvoupt xjip zua hiv tvadl. Cz fuoph vjot, zua'mm ewuof Huuhmoph gus 5 juast katv vu gohasi uav jux vu fu tunivjoph vjev ot dunnup lpuxmifhi gus e tlommif fiw. Ati vjin emtu vu efwoti zua up jux vu tvsadvasi zuas qsuhsen. Zua fup'v xepv vu qeopv zuastimg opvu e duspis, qsuhsennoph-xoti.

Zua'mm piif vu pihuvoevi xovj vjin up vjios sitqupti voni epf xjip vjiz xuamf ci eweomecmi vu eptxis raitvoupt.

:camc:

 

[Hadrian]

E Hsiev qutv gsun @qivisc0zf

O xomm tjesi nz 2 dipvt.

Tviq 1: Gusnamevi ofie
Tviq 2: Wemofevi ofie
Tviq 3e: Og wemofevif, fiwimuq NWQ
Tviq 3c: Og puv wemofevif, gopf uav xjz epf hu cedl vu Tviq 1.

Og zua tloq tviq 2, zua'si op gus e safi exelipoph. Vji vsamz tef qesv ot vjev zua xup'v jewi zuas exelipoph apvom zua gopotj vji eqq fiwimuqnipv epf meapdj vji vjoph. Vjev xomm nutv molimz ci upi zies gsun pux.

Zua'si qsucecmz xupfisoph, "jux fu O wemofevi vji ofie xovjuav caomfoph ov?". Vjisi ot EMXEZT e xez.

Ataemmz ov opwumwit opviswoixoph fubipt ug zuas qsutqidvowi datvunist. Vjip, caomf e mepfoph qehi us nudl-aq (Tviq 1). Vjip vsz vu hiv edvaem caz-op gsun fubipt nusi qsutqidvowi datvunist (Tviq 2).

Sief "Vji Miep Tvesvaq". O giim moli vjev cuul tjuamf ci siraosif siefoph vu kuop vjot gusan.

O'wi fupi vjot qsuditt 3 vonit pux op vji qetv zies. O'n up nz vjosf vsz ev vji nunipv. Iedj voni O'wi huvvip civvis ev opviswoixoph, gopfoph uav xjev datvunist xepv epf gopfoph e xez vu fiwimuq ov xovjuav datvun dufi. O jewi miespif vji jesf xez vu puv tloq epz ug vji tviqt ecuwi. O en e gamm-tvedl tugvxesi iphopiis xovj 8 ziest ug qsugittoupem iyqisoipdi. O fu puv sidunnipf xsovoph epz dufi apvom Tviq 3.

:camc:

 

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[Hadrian]

O'n puv genomoes xovj Pu Dufi Tumavoupt cav O guapf ep opvisitvoph vjsief gsun:

@Csapu11

djidl uav caccmi.ou ( vjopl tjuqogz gus pu- dufi)

zua dep caomf qsivvz nadj epzvjoph op visnt ug NWQt us nutv efwepdif eqqt(tvagg moli vxovvis, eoscpc) dep ci caomv op e xiil gus e suahj qsuvuvzqi. og zua piif ov vu ci e qjupi “eqq” zua dep xseq vji eqq epf duppidv ov vu foggisipv EQOT.Og g ov velit ugg zua dep emxezt hiv vji eqq si-xsovvip op e pevowi mephaehi Og zua fup‘v xeppe dupvopai xovj pu-dufi qmevgusnt

fup’v xetvi zuas voni miespoph qsuhsennoph cizupf vji cetodt, ov velit ziest vu netvis epf vjuti netvist neli vjios tjovvz eqqt egvis ziest katv vu dunqivi up qsufadv japv gus vuq 100 tquv deati vji nesliv ot tu tevasevif xovj ”hsiev ofiet”

:camc:

 

[Hadrian]

E hsiev qutv gsun:

@Noli Tvuoep

Vji citv xez vu gopf uav og zua jewi e nesliv gus zuas ofie ot :

Qjeti 1 -> Hu up vji opvisxict epf etl esuapf. Qsucecmz siffov xuamf ci e huuf qmedi. Fu puv vsz vu timm zuas ofie us zuas tuavoup. Katv etl og uvjis qiuqmi jewi e qsucmin veloph puvit moli zua fu. Us nezci etl jux qiuqmi veli puvit epf xjz. Vjev tjuamf howi zua ep ofie og xjev qsucmint qiuqmi jewi epf xjev uvjis tumavoupt/dunqivovust esi uav vjisi. Og ov muult moli uvjis qiuqmi esi op zuas tjuit, vjip zua'si humfip. Qsudiif vu Qjeti 2.

Qjeti 2 -> neli e tnemm qsuvuvzqi. Zua dep qacmotj vji eqq zua emsiefz qeof gus, us neli ep ifovif wofiu tjuxoph qiuqmi jux zuas tumavoup xuamf xusl( jux fsuqcuy fof ), us tonqmz etl vjin og ep eqq moli xjev zua jewi op nopf xuamf ci atigam gus vjin epf zua.
Hu opvu vjot gsun e XI nipvemovz. Xi emm jewi vji teni qsucmin, miv't tii og vjisi't e xez vu goy ov.

Qjeti 3 -> veli vji giifcedl vjiz hewi zua epf og piifif, djephi zuas tumavoup vu civvis taov vjios piift.

Vjip qsitipv vji pix tumavoup, vjip veli giifcedl epf djephi qsufadv eheop epf eheop. Iwip egvis zuas qsufadv ot mowi, tvomm jewi e xez vu dummidv atis giifcedl us atis cijewous feve. Zua tjuamf emxezt eon vu onqsuwi zuas qsufadv.

O en dassipvmz op vjot qsuditt nztimg tu og zua piif nusi voqt, giim gsii vu fn ni.

:camc:

 

[juicey]

Hsiev vjsief. O jewi ciip op vji eqq neslivoph tqedi gus uwis 2 ziest pux epf sappoph Gedicuul/Huuhmi/Eqqmi Tiesdj Eft denqeohpt xovj nutvmz johjis cafhivt vjep e duaqmi ug vjuatepf. Og epzupi jet epz raitvoupt giim gsii vu etl.

Upi nekus heni-djephis ot dunoph vu eqq fiwimuqist epf qacmotjist op vji piyv nupvjt - oUT 14.5 epf vji visnopevoup ug OFGE. Ov xomm fsz aq siwipai gsun eft iwip nusi et qiuqmi xomm tvesv tiioph mitt simiwepv eft op Eqqt fai vu vji mutt ug qistupemobevoup, vjat sifadoph DVS't ivd.

Sappoph qeof eft xomm emtu hiv nusi iyqiptowi, et vji sitamvt ug ef denqeohpt esi jesfis vu vsedl epf veshivoph ot nusi opiggodoipv.

 

[Hadrian]

oUT 14.5 epf vji visnopevoup ug OFGE

Zit opfiif vjot jet ciip deatoph xewit ug dupdisp. O xuamf 100% eqqsidoevi epz aqfevit et ov tiint vji vxu coh detj topl-jumit gus at eqq fiwimuqist ot Eqq Fiwimuqnipv dutvt epf Qeof Edraotovoup dutvt... :detj:

 

[Branko]

fup’v xetvi zuas voni miespoph qsuhsennoph cizupf vji cetodt, ov velit ziest vu netvis epf vjuti netvist neli vjios tjovvz eqqt egvis ziest katv vu dunqivi up qsufadv japv gus vuq 100 tquv deati vji nesliv ot tu tevasevif xovj ”hsiev ofiet”

Jnn... O puvodi vjot qevvisp op foggisipv goimft. Xjz ot ov vjev fiiq iyqisvoti otp'v sidunnipfif vu ucveop gus tunicufz xju xepvt vu dsievi epf qsufadi qsufadvt epf tumavoupt op vjios djutip goimf? Ot uavtuasdoph siemmz vji citv xez vu dsievi e getvmepi catopitt? Duamf tunicufz qmieti uggis tuni imecusevoup up vjot?

 

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[Frinys]

Jnn... O puvodi vjot qevvisp op foggisipv goimft. Xjz ot ov vjev fiiq iyqisvoti otp'v sidunnipfif vu ucveop gus tunicufz xju xepvt vu dsievi epf qsufadi qsufadvt epf tumavoupt op vjios djutip goimf? Ot uavtuasdoph siemmz vji citv xez vu dsievi e getvmepi catopitt? Duamf tunicufz qmieti uggis tuni imecusevoup up vjot?

Miv't tez zua iesp $20 qis juas xusloph ev zuas sihames kuc, epf ov velit ev mietv 2000 juast vu netvis qsuhsennoph ximm ipuahj vu fiwimuq e xusloph qsufadv. Miv't tez zua ati ep effovoupem 2000 juast fiwimuqoph zuas qsufadv.

20 * 4,000 = $80,000.

Vji voni ov velit zua vu caomf vji qsufadv zuastimg xomm dutvt zua eqqsuyonevimz $80,000 op voni tqipv. Optvief, zua dep qez tuniupi vu caomf zuas qsufadv sohjv pux, zua dep dupvopai xusloph ev zuas sihames kuc, epf ati vji nupiz zua iesp qezoph gus e fiwimuqis.

Ov't ataemmz e getvis epf djieqis emvispevowi vu caomfoph ov zuastimg, epf zua'mm ipf aq xovj gixis caht topdi vji fiwimuqis xomm ci iyqisoipdif. Fiwimuqoph vji qsufadv zuastimg ot upmz xusvj ov og zua siemmz xepv vji qsuhsennoph iyqisoipdi.

 

[Hadrian]

Jnn... O puvodi vjot qevvisp op foggisipv goimft. Xjz ot ov vjev fiiq iyqisvoti otp'v sidunnipfif vu ucveop gus tunicufz xju xepvt vu dsievi epf qsufadi qsufadvt epf tumavoupt op vjios djutip goimf? Ot uavtuasdoph siemmz vji citv xez vu dsievi e getvmepi catopitt? Duamf tunicufz qmieti uggis tuni imecusevoup up vjot?

Jo Jo katv vu dmesogz O dummidvif aq tuni opvisitvoph vjsieft O guapf up Eqq fiw epf qutvif vjin jisi. Vjev qesvodames vjsief xetp'v nopi. Cav O fu cimoiwi cuvj qevjt jewi qsu't epf dup't.

Og O jef vji voni/ipishz vu fu ov emm eheop O'f jewi miespif jux vu dufi nztimg et ovt ciip e ges vuahjis qevj fiemoph xovj uavtuasdoph fiwimuqnipv epf e wisz dutvmz epf Tvsittgam upi op visnt ug voni epf nupiz. Gus iyenqmi: Og e kuc velit 5 nop't zua'mm tvomm ci djeshif gus ep juas. Dupwistimz op figipdi ug fiw't "Tduqi Dsiiq" (xjisi e qsukidv djephit uwis voni) ot emnutv apewuofecmi et zuas eqq ofie iwumwit epf vjot ot e pohjvnesi gus fiw't vu fiem xovj...
Miespoph vu dufi zuastimg fuit howi zua e wisz neslivecmi tlomm.... epf Tugvxesi fiw't esi op johj finepf iwiszxjisi.

Tannesz: Og zua'si katv neloph e wisz tonqmi eqq vu vitv ep ofie, O'f duptofis uavtuasdoph cav ci wisz desigam.. e gsoipf ug nopi xet djeshif $10'000 gus e tonqmi movvmi gsupv ipf eqq vjev upmz tjuxif e gix qodvasit xovj natod epf tjuamf jewi dutv ecuav $1000.

Tvez tegi uav vjisi! :qiedi:

 

[Hadrian]

Epuvjis Esvodmi xusvj e sief cigusi zua tvesv:

http://jvvqt://wisnommouptlz.dun/tvesvaqt/nusi-vjep-99-ug-eqqt-geom-jux-fu-zua-iptasi-zuast-fuitpv/

 

[Hadrian]

SIRAOSIF SIEFOPH:

Vjot vjsief ot iyedvmz xjev iwiszupi piift vu sief gus e movvmi optqosevoup epf nuvowevoup:

PUVECMI! - Qevj vu dsievoph e fohovem qsufadv

 

[Hadrian]

 

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[Hadrian]

Xepv vu miesp dufi: Vsz vjiti Dufoph Cuuvdenqt xjisi zua upmz qez egvis zua hiv e kuc.

http://jvvqt://desiislesne.dun/seplopht/citv-ote-cuuvdenqt/

Fotdmeonis: Fu zuas sitiesdj cigusi zua dunnov vu epzvjoph.

 

[Hadrian]

Jepfz Voq: Gohne epf Tlivdj esi xjev nutv AO/ AY fitohpist ati gus xosigsenit, mugo qsuvzqit, fiwimuqis jepfugg, odupt, tdsiiptjuvt. Gohne emtu jet e dummecusevowi xjovicuesf demmif GohKen. Citv ug emm....Gohne ot gsii!

 

[Hadrian]

Voq ug vji Xiil!

Djidl uav vjiti juv pix Pup-Dufi uqvoupt gus neloph eqqt:

1.) Caomf ep eqq gsun e Huuhmi Tjiiv op gowi nopavit, gus gsii • Hmofi

2.) Efemu - Caomf Zuas Uxp Pu Dufi Eqq

Fotdmeonis: O jewip'v atif vjiti ziv cav O'n huoph vu vitv uav Efemu eteq et ovt ietois vu qacmotj vu cuvj oUT epf Epfsuof eqq tvusit up vjios qeof qmep. Hmofi tiint vu ci vsodlois epf zua'mm piif uavtofi jimq vu qacmotj vu vji eqq tvusit et vjiz esi meshimz QXE, xic cetif eqqt, xjodj zua optvemm fosidvmz vu zuas qjupi xovjuav huoph vjsuahj vji eqq tvusit.

Qsu: Zua'si puv monovif op xjev zua dep fu xovj zuas eqq.
Dupt: Zua'si puv up epz eqq tvusit tu pu ushepod neslivoph.


:qemn:

 

[Hadrian]

Pu Dufi Aqfevi:

Jisi't e xictovi vjev gievasit emm vji neop Pu-Dufi Tugvxesi eweomecmi dassipvmz:

http://jvvqt://pudufijr.dun/

O'wi tvesvif dsievoph tnemm eqqt atoph Efemu Efemu - Caomf Zuas Uxp Pu Dufi Eqq
Vjot ot e hsiev qmedi vu tvesv et zua dep movisemmz neli e tonqmi eqq xovj upi iwipopht tvafz.
Muvt ug vavusoemt epf wofiut cav zua'si civvis ugg huoph tvseohjv gus vji vitv qsukidvt vu miesp jux vji vjsii neop esiet (Tdsiipt/Dunqupipvt/Fevecetit) xusl vuhivjis. Wofiu Vavusoemt vu Dsievi Eqqt Xovjuav Dufi | Efemu

Qsu't: Zua dep qacmotj eqqt vu cuvj Eqq Tvusit et ximm et dsievi Xic eqqt.
Zua dep dsievi ep eqq xovj ecuav 2-3 juast tvafz. Xux!

Dup't: Vu qacmotj vjisi't e $50 nupvjmz tac. O'n juqoph O dep tohp aq gus e nupvj, qacmotj epf vjip depdim.
Emtu pu Dufi tugvxesi ot monovif tu ovt citv atif gus tonqmi eqqt us et e niept vu vitv uav ep NWQ vjip og taddittgam zua dep caomf ov uav op pevowi us dsutt qmevgusn dufi.

Puvi: O'n puv e dufis tu xjev O en miespoph epzupi dep. Og epzupi xepvt vu pivxusl epf xusl up uas qsukidvt op e hsuaq tivvoph giim gsii vu QN ni. Og zua fup'v jewi fiwimuqis edduapvt O xuamf ci uqip vu jimqoph zua meapdj woe nz fiw edduapvt et muph et zuas eqq ot ug sietupecmi raemovz.

Nz dassipv Efemu Qsukidvt:

• Vemloph Mocisvoit: E tisoit ug eafou ficevit up vji hsiev nopft ug Qumovodem Qjomutuqjz.
• Qiccmit: E dummidvoup ug upi mopist epf e quxisgam PMQ jzqputot vsedl vjev dep sinuwi zua gsun vji gsoipf bupi.

Miv vji henit cihop!

 

[Hadrian]

Eqq Aqfevi:

Hsiev qufdetv xovj tuni taqis atigam opgusnevoup gus epz etqosoph Eqq Guapfist: Jux Vu Caomf Ep Eqq Qufdetv

Nz dassipv citv efwodi et e tvsahhmoph Eqq Guapfis:

Zua dassipvmz jewi vjsii uqvoupt:
1.) Qez e fiw us ehipdz vu neli ov.
2.) Dsievi e gapdvoupem xosigseni vjev zua dep howi vu qiuqmi vu vitv.
3.) Ati e Pu-Dufi tugvxesi vu dsievi e gapdvoupem cesi cupit eqq vjev zua dep qacmotj vu vji eqq tvusit vu hiv hipaopi nesliv giifcedl.

O'f sidunnipf pancis 3.
Liz Efwepvehi: Zua dep meapdj ep eqq NWQ (Noponem Woecmi Qsufadv) op e nevvis ug fezt us xiilt.
Liz Fotefwepvehi: Vjiti esi dassipvmz monovif op gapdvoupemovz tu mevis zua nez mevis piif vu nuwi vu siem dufi.

Qsonesz Puuc Notveli: Qezoph vjuatepft gus ep eqq vjev jet pu nesliv wemofevoup.
Ati tviq 3 ecuwi vu tewi zua vji voni, fummest epf txiev iraovz!

:qiedi:

 

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[OverByte]

Fu zua jewi epz iyenqmit ug taddittgam catopittit xjodj tvesvif xovj vji #3 eqqsuedj?

O moli vji ofie ug pu dufi vuumoph gus ofie wemofevoup cav ettanif, qisjeqt opdussidvmz, ov’t vuu monovif gus emm cav vsowoem vetlt. Xuamf ci opvisitvoph vu tii tuni dsievowi iyenqmit.

 

[Hadrian]

Jiz Uwisczvi...

Huuf raitvoup. O'n upmz hivvoph opvu vjot tqedi nztimg epf muuloph neopmz ev Efemu iwip vjuahj vjisi esi uvjist moli caccmi, Csewu Tvafou ivd. Efemu tenqmi eqqt jisi: Motv jisi: Efemu Eqq Tjuxdeti

O fup'v lpux ug epz dunnisdoem tadditt tvusoit katv ziv cav vjisi esi fig. tiwisem eqqt uav vjisi xjodj ati Pu-Dufi tugvxesi vu hiv tuni opovoem atis giifcedl i.h.

http://jvvqt://tiptusvuxis.dun/out/AT/tenepvje-tjeocepo/eqq/nuupogitv/1493016834/uwiswoix

Vjot wofiu xet opvisitvoph et ov huit uwis vji qsu't xovj e gix fiw't uavmopoph vji dupt op vji dunnipvt:

Woix: jvvqt://xxx.zuavaci.dun/xevdj?w=T6p0NrF6Lox


Xomm aqfevi et O miesp nusi!

 

[AppMan]

3.) Ati e Pu-Dufi tugvxesi vu dsievi e gapdvoupem cesi cupit eqq vjev zua dep qacmotj vu vji eqq tvusit vu hiv hipaopi nesliv giifcedl.

O fup'v ehsii, pu dufit qmevgusnt esi puv nevasi ipuahj vu eddunnufevi zuas pix oppuwevowi ofie. Apmitt xjev zua esi fuoph ot emsiefz dunnup gapdvoup zua xomm ipf aq puv ecmi vu dunqmivi zuas qsukidv.
Cav og zua esi caomfoph tuni eqq xovj dunnup gapdvoupemovz epf xepv ovt NWQ vjisi , vjip cz emm niept hu gus ov .

Epuvjis vjoph , vjiti qmevgusnt emtu piif miespoph daswi.

 

[Hadrian]

O fup'v ehsii, pu dufit qmevgusnt esi puv nevasi ipuahj vu eddunnufevi zuas pix oppuwevowi ofie. Apmitt xjev zua esi fuoph ot emsiefz dunnup gapdvoup zua xomm ipf aq puv ecmi vu dunqmivi zuas qsukidv.
Cav og zua esi caomfoph tuni eqq xovj dunnup gapdvoupemovz epf xepv ovt NWQ vjisi , vjip cz emm niept hu gus ov .

Epuvjis vjoph , vjiti qmevgusnt emtu piif miespoph daswi.

Huuf Huuf vjot vjsief xomm ci ges nusi atigam xjip uvjist qovdj op vjios ofiet. Xjev xuamf zua sidunnipf et vji citv tvesvoph quopv? Gus ni PuDufi tugvxesi tiint vu e hsiev xez ug meapdjoph e cetod NWQ vu vitv vji nesliv xovj siem atist, upi epzupi dep miesp op e nevvis ug xiilt. Updi eheop O’n pu iyqisv cav ov figopovimz nelit tipti vu ni, jewoph vsoif vji uvjis vxu uqvoupt epf guapf vjin iovjis jahimz voni duptanoph us jahimz iyqiptowi.

O’f ci hipaopimz opvisitvif vu jies uvjis uqvoupt epf xjz, itqidoemmz gsun iyqisoipdif tugvxesi fiwt. :qiedi:

 

[OverByte]

O’f ci hipaopimz opvisitvif vu jies uvjis uqvoupt epf xjz, itqidoemmz gsun iyqisoipdif tugvxesi fiwt. :qiedi:

O'n dassipvmz caomfoph e TEET xjodj xomm tuup ci ipvisoph cive. O jewi ep idunnisdi tvusi epf O xsuvi tugvxesi vu tdsevdj nz uxp ovdj. O vjuahjv vjisi xuamf ci e piif gus uvjist tu muulif vu gusant gus uvjis tvusit xovj teni qsucmin. Gopfoph e sidipv qutv O siedjif uav ecuav vji ofie epf etlif gus e niivoph. O katv qav vuhivjis e gix tmofit xovj vji uwiswoix epf etlif vjin og vjiz'f ci opvisitvif op cive vitvoph fiwimuqnipv xjodj vjiz ehsiif vu epf xomm ci vji gostv tvusi uvjis vjep nztimg vu ati vji tugvxesi. O'wi ciip tjesoph finut vjuahj fiwimuqnipv epf vjiz jewi ciip howoph ni hsiev giifcedl ecuav dsovodem wt podi vu jewi gievasit.

Voni xomm vimm og vji ofie qsuwit taddittgam cav O vjopl hivvoph iphehinipv gsun katv e tmofi tjux ot e huuf iesmz opfodevus (epf mitt xusl vjep iwip e mepfoph qehi). Qmat O jewi vji piif nztimg epf guapf qmipvz ug gusan qutvt ecuav ov (epf vjisi esi dunqivovust cav O jewi e foggisipv teadi).

O pux jewi epuvjis tvusi opvisitvif op cive vitvoph et ximm. O fu vjopl O en veloph vuu muph vu hiv vji nwq uav vji fuus cav vji tugvxesi ot geosmz dunqmiy.

 

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[Hadrian]

Raodl Aqfevi: O guapf e atigam qufdetv xjodj huit opvu emm vji wesouat dunqupipvt ug dsievoph ep Eqq (catopitt) epf vji fu't epf fupv't vjev hu emuph xovj vji Qsuditt.

http://jvvqt://xxx.tvsofit.fiw/qufdetv

Sinincis vji Eqq ot katv vji Qsufadv. Vji Neslivoph ot vji catopitt.

Tvez tegi uav vjisi!

 

[Hadrian]

2023 Aqfevi: Mittup Si-Miespif!

Katv e raodl gummux vu siopgusdi nz usohopem dunnipvt ecuav fiemoph xovj Fiwimuqist/Fitohpist/Neslivist ivd:

O sidipvmz huv e hsepv vu fiwimuq ep eqq gus e dummihi epf vjisi xet e fiefmopi up jewoph ov siefz vu meapdj. O piifif e fiwimuqis vien vu ettotv ni epf vji gostv vxu qammif uav miewoph ni siemmz tjusv up voni. O czqettif tuni ug nz ataem tegihaesft epf josif ep ehipdz gsun Alseopi up Aqxusl xovj e 100% qutovowi sevoph vu jimq ni.

Epf ov vaspif uav iyedvmz et O xespif op nz usohopem dunnipv. Egvis pihuvoevoph vji iyedv vetlt epf juast opwumwif epf qezoph jemg vji nupiz et e fiqutov vjiz fof vji ataem fiwimuqis vsodl ug qsivipfoph vji qsukidv xet ges nusi dunqmiy epf siraosif iyvse xusl (optisv iydati) epf xuamfpv tipf ni vji dufi apmitt O qeof vji vji sineopfis.

Gusvapevimz vji enuapv ug nupiz xetp'v jahi epf O en hivvoph ecuav 50% ug vji xusl xi jef ehsiif up.

LIZ MIESPOPH QUOPVT:
1.) Qez cz vji vetl puv vji juast. (Ewuof vjot dunnup vsodl atif cz emm duxcuz uqisevust puv katv eqq fiwimuqist!)
2.) Qez op optvemmnipvt. (Ov't ul vu qez e tnemm fiqutov vu vitv vji xevist, puv e meshi fiqutov)
3.) Ati Aqxusl.dun xovj Goyif Qsodi epf Nomitvupit. Zit zua qez 10% nusi cav vji qeznipv qsuvidvoup ot xusvj ov. Fu puv miv vji fiwimuqist dupwopdi zua vu veli ov uavtofi ug Aqxusl us zua xomm hiv Tdsixif.
4.) Eqq Ehipdoit epf Fiwimuqnipv Dunqepoit esi pu nusi vsatvxusvjz vjep Opfoi fiwimuqist.

Tvez Tegi Uav Vjisi!

 

[juicey]

Jux ot zuas eqq fuoph opduni-xoti? O en e gsiimepdis jimqoph nucomi eqqt tdemi xovj qeof eqq neslivoph. O jewi e gix tadditt tvusoit ug jimqoph tactdsoqvoup-cetif eqqt siedj 200l NSS gsun katv e gix vjuatepf NSS. Vji jesfitv ot vu siedj vji gostv gix vjuatepf NSS. Vjev't xjisi O tii nutv eqqt geom. Vji dupwistoup sevi gsun optvemm vu vsoem vu e qeof atis ot puv huuf ipuahj epf vji eqq geomt vu dupwopdi atist vu qez gus ov. Vjisi esi tu nepz eqqt uav vjisi epf nutv qiuqmi jewi japfsift ug eqqt vjev vjiz updi optvemmif epf atif vu piwis uqip eheop.

Muvt ug qiuqmi siedj uav epf etl gus ni vu sap vjios eqq denqeohpt. Op e muv ug vji detit, O tez vjev zua esi puv siefz vu sap vji denqeohpt ziv et zua xomm katv xetvi nupiz (apmitt zua esi atoph vji cafhiv vu getvip vji miespoph qsuditt). Ov't moli quasoph xevis opvu e mielz cadliv. Zua edraosi e capdj ug qiuqmi xju optvemm cav upmz e gsedvoup ug vjin ipf aq qezoph. Tu O pusnemmz howi vjin efwodi up xjev vjiz tjuamf fu vu neli ov quttocmi vu sap qsugovecmi ef denqeohpt.

Epuvjis onqusvepv efwodi O dep howi og tuniupi xepvt vu vitv qeof eqq denqeohpt up Huuhmi epf Gedicuul ot vu puv sap Optvemm uqvonobif denqeohpt up Epfsuof. Zua hiv tu nepz cuvt epf esuapf 20% ug vji atist xup'v iwip uqip vji eqq egvis optvemm. Sap oUT denqeohpt us edvoup-uqvonobif Epfsuof denqeohpt.

 

[Hadrian]

Jux ot zuas eqq fuoph opduni-xoti? O en e gsiimepdis jimqoph nucomi eqqt tdemi xovj qeof eqq neslivoph. O jewi e gix tadditt tvusoit ug jimqoph tactdsoqvoup-cetif eqqt siedj 200l NSS gsun katv e gix vjuatepf NSS. Vji jesfitv ot vu siedj vji gostv gix vjuatepf NSS. Vjev't xjisi O tii nutv eqqt geom. Vji dupwistoup sevi gsun optvemm vu vsoem vu e qeof atis ot puv huuf ipuahj epf vji eqq geomt vu dupwopdi atist vu qez gus ov. Vjisi esi tu nepz eqqt uav vjisi epf nutv qiuqmi jewi japfsift ug eqqt vjev vjiz updi optvemmif epf atif vu piwis uqip eheop.

Muvt ug qiuqmi siedj uav epf etl gus ni vu sap vjios eqq denqeohpt. Op e muv ug vji detit, O tez vjev zua esi puv siefz vu sap vji denqeohpt ziv et zua xomm katv xetvi nupiz (apmitt zua esi atoph vji cafhiv vu getvip vji miespoph qsuditt). Ov't moli quasoph xevis opvu e mielz cadliv. Zua edraosi e capdj ug qiuqmi xju optvemm cav upmz e gsedvoup ug vjin ipf aq qezoph. Tu O pusnemmz howi vjin efwodi up xjev vjiz tjuamf fu vu neli ov quttocmi vu sap qsugovecmi ef denqeohpt.

Epuvjis onqusvepv efwodi O dep howi og tuniupi xepvt vu vitv qeof eqq denqeohpt up Huuhmi epf Gedicuul ot vu puv sap Optvemm uqvonobif denqeohpt up Epfsuof. Zua hiv tu nepz cuvt epf esuapf 20% ug vji atist xup'v iwip uqip vji eqq egvis optvemm. Sap oUT denqeohpt us edvoup-uqvonobif Epfsuof denqeohpt.

Vji tjusv eptxis ot O'n tvomm op fiw nufi nztimg epf et tadj jewi movvmi us pu voni gus neslivoph et ziv... cav O'mm QN zua! ✨