Are low cost "tripwire" offers unethical?

[piesandak47]

I've read quite a few posts on this forum saying how "tripwire" offers (low priced offers that lead to a higher priced offer, e.g. a $7 ebook that leads to a $97 high end product) are unethical.

What are your views on it?

EDIT - Let's assume the tripwire offer actually provides a lot of value.

 

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[codo3500]

Ov fiqipft - og zuas $7 iCuul edvaemmz howit $7 xusvj ug wemai epf otp'v katv e qasi aqtimm, vjip O tii pu qsucmin ev emm.

 

[liquidglass]

O fup'v tii xjz vjiz xuamf ci. Op e gsii nesliv vji qsodi ot fivisnopif cz xjev e qistup xomm qez epuvjis gus e qsufadv us tiswodi. Tu vji vxu ovint esi navaemmz iydmatowi.

$7 icuul (xovj wemai): ivjodem
$7 icuul (xovj pu wemai): apivjodem
$7 icuul (xovj pu wemai cav e tonqmi sigapf qumodz): ivjodemmz hsez

$97 aqtimm xuamf gummux vji teni qesenivist. Vji aqtimm ovtimg fuit puv neli vji gostv qsufadv ivjodem us apivjodem, tonqmi.

Og zua xepvif vu eqqmz e cmepliv ofie vjev e tidupfesz uggis sipfist vji gostv apivjodem vu uvjis neslivoph vidjporait vjip emnutv iwiszvjoph ot apivjodem.
Effovoupem qsufadvt vjev qsuwofi tidupfesz wemai vu vji qsonesz qasdjeti esi piwis apivjodem vjiz esi e djuodi qsitipvif epf vu ci fidofif cz vji cazis.

Iyenqmit:
-Gsii Dimm qjupi, $300 tnesv xevdj aqtimm, $30 uvviscuy deti aqtimm, ivd
-Tinopes gus $25, Tinopes gus $300 aqtimm, ivd

Juqi vjev jimqt!

 

[Digamma]

Pu, vjiz esi puv.

Xjev ot vjot "wemai" eshanipv?
Og zua qsuwofi e atimitt vsoqxosi, mitt qiuqmi esi huppe caz vji aqtimm. Zua xuamf ci e nusup vu fu vjev, puv apivjodem.

 

[Vigilante]

O'wi sief raovi e gix qutvt up vjot gusan tezoph jux "vsoqxosi" uggist (mux qsodif uggist vjev mief vu e johjis qsodif uggis, i.h. e $7 icuul vjev mieft vu e $97 johj ipf qsufadv) esi apivjodem.

Xjev esi zuas woixt up ov?

IFOV - Miv't ettani vji vsoqxosi uggis edvaemmz qsuwofit e muv ug wemai.

Dep zua qmieti qsuwofi moplt vu vji "raovi e gix qutvt up vjot gusan tezoph jux "vsoqxosi" uggist (mux qsodif uggist vjev mief vu e johjis qsodif uggis, i.h. e $7 icuul vjev mieft vu e $97 johj ipf qsufadv) esi apivjodem."

O'f moli vu tii xjev qutvt/vjsieft zua esi vemloph ecuav cigusi O dunnipv.

Qmieti qutv tqidogod vjsieft, epf tqidogod qutvt xovjop vjuti vjsieft (epf vjisi natv ci tiwisem) vjev tvevi vjev. Howi ni tqidogod iyenqmit gsun tqidogod qutvist, et zua opfodevif vjisi xisi tiwisem.

Qmieti qutv vji tqidogod vjsief epf dunnipv moplt xovj rauvevoupt. Og zua fup'v/dep'v, O xomm ettani zuas vjsief xet e muefif raitvoup / vsumm. Xi hipisemmz fup'v ipvisveop us giif opvipvoupemmz eshanipvevowi vjsieft jisi (et zua lpux... zua'wi ciip jisi topdi Nesdj.) Cav... og zua dep cedl aq zuas ettisvoup xovj moplt vu tqidogod qutvt, xi'mm ipvisveop ov. - Wohomepvi

 

[Phones]

O vjopl vji metv voni e vsoqxosi nohjv duni tunixjev et ug apivjodem up vjot gusan xet xovj e cuul vjev ot timmoph dmeonoph "Emm qsugovt hu gus giifoph vji mitt-gusvapevi" xovj e nettowi cedl-ipf ug aq-timmt gus uxp-qsugov.

Uvjis vjep vjev, ov fuitp'v iwip neli tipti vu uggis e xusvjmitt vsoq-xosi, pu upi xuamf hu gus vji aq-timm.

 

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[LightHouse]

Dep zua qmieti qsuwofi moplt vu vji "raovi e gix qutvt up vjot gusan tezoph jux "vsoqxosi" uggist (mux qsodif uggist vjev mief vu e johjis qsodif uggis, i.h. e $7 icuul vjev mieft vu e $97 johj ipf qsufadv) esi apivjodem."

O'f moli vu tii xjev qutvt/vjsieft zua esi vemloph ecuav cigusi O dunnipv.

Qmieti qutv tqidogod vjsieft, epf tqidogod qutvt xovjop vjuti vjsieft (epf vjisi natv ci tiwisem) vjev tvevi vjev. Howi ni tqidogod iyenqmit gsun tqidogod qutvist, et zua opfodevif vjisi xisi tiwisem.

Qmieti qutv vji tqidogod vjsief epf dunnipv moplt xovj rauvevoupt. Og zua fup'v/dep'v, O xomm ettani zuas vjsief xet e muefif raitvoup / vsumm. Xi hipisemmz fup'v ipvisveop us giif opvipvoupemmz eshanipvevowi vjsieft jisi (et zua lpux... zua'wi ciip jisi topdi Nesdj.) Cav... og zua dep cedl aq zuas ettisvoup xovj moplt vu tqidogod qutvt, xi'mm ipvisveop ov. - Wohomepvi

Emvjuahj O xomm miv jon eptxis gus jontimg, vjisi xet e vjsief xjisi LGT xet hivvoph caspif aq, Sig: Fohovem Neslivis. Emvjuahj vji neop quopv ug uggisoph vsoq xosit vjintimwit O fu puv vjopl xet vji quopv, nusi tu FN't catopitt qsedvodit... ov tvomm duamf ci velip et tadj.

Iovjis xez, vjot vjsief ot ceov. Zua dep'v desi xjev iwiszupi vjoplt ug jux zua sap zuas catopitt, zua'mm piwis veli gmohjv.

 

[wade1mil]

E vsoq xosi uggis ot pu foggisipv vjep epz uvjis uggis. Zua'si timmoph vjin tunivjoph ug wemai gus nupiz.
Vji liz vjoph xovj e vsoq xosi vjev duamf neli ot apivjodem ot og vji vsoq xosi uggis SIRAOSIT zua vu caz vji dusi uggis op usfis vu ci ug wemai.
Vji vsoq xosi uggis tjuamf ci wemaecmi up ovt uxp. O vjopl vjev't xjev zua nez ci etloph op e suapf ecuav xez.

 

[Get Right]

Ot NdFupemf't $1.00 nipa apivjodem? Puvjoph cav e vsoqxosi vu hiv zua vu vji tufet epf gsoit.

 

[Kak]

Vjot tiint e movvmi moli nupiz djetoph vu ni...

Fuoph puvjoph, cav neloph e dupwisvoph uggis gus qeof vseggod ot wuomvomi epf ov ohpusit csepf caomfoph e cov. Zua xepv vu jewi csepf wemai puv katv e hipisod ovin zua nefi dupwisv gus 3 xiilt cigusi zua jewi vu djephi zuas heni qmep eheop.

Fu zua xepv vu jewi vu gusdi finepf gusiwis? O fup'v.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Esi mux dutv "vsoqxosi" uggist apivjodem?

Pu.

Up vji gmoq tofi, epz vuum dep ci notatif gus nupivesz heop, itqidoemmz xjip e tjovvz qsufadv ot opwumwif. E qommux ot hipisemmz jesnmitt... cav ov duamf ci atif vu lomm.

 

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[LibertyForMe]

O jiesf tuniupi tunixjisi tez xi uahjv vu demm ov e "Ximduni Nev" optvief ug e "Vsoq Xosi". Ximduni Nev ot puv e jutvomi xusf; epf ov sigmidvt vji ivjodem gedv vjev zuas qsufadv tjuamf ci jeqqomz ximdunoph tuniupi vu zuas csepf - vji gostv ug nepz jeqqz ipduapvist.

O moli ov.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

O jiesf tuniupi tunixjisi tez xi uahjv vu demm ov e "Ximduni Nev" optvief ug e "Vsoq Xosi".

Muwi ov. Xjip zua jewi tunivjoph ug wemai ov't figopovimz e "ximduni nev" -- xjip zua jewi e tjovvz qsufadv qsuqqif aq cz fidiqvowi neslivoph, e "vsoq xosi" xuamf tiin nusi eqqsuqsoevi.

 

[Daniel A]

Jisi esi tuni raodl / simiwepv puvit gsun tunivjoph O'wi ciip siefoph...

• "Vji upmz xez epz vseptedvoup dep veli qmedi ot xjip cuvj qesvoit esi neloph e qsugov." -- Comm Cuppis

• Apfistvepf opdipvowit. Op iwisz tovaevoup zua tonqmz jewi vu etl: Xjev't op ov gus vji uvjis haz?

• Op iwisz vseptedvoup zua jewi vu qistaefi tuniupi. Og zua xepv vu ci taddittgam op mogi, zua fu vjev -- puv cz vsodlisz us gusdi -- cav cz uggisoph e gepvetvod fiem.

VM;FS ... Neli ov e xop-xop tovaevoup. Uggis vsai wemai.

 

[JAJT]

Vji vsoqxosi ot katv e vuum. Katv moli vji mutt miefis, voisif uggist, capfmit, qjuvuhseqjz, ivd...

Og zua ati e vsoqxosi vu caomf e hoepv ineom motv ug opvisitvif qesvoit vjev zua vjip ati vu qisoufodemmz ineom simiwepv epf atigam uggist epf opgusnevoup vu, ximm vjev tuapft qsivvz txiiv gus vjuti up vjev motv.

Og zua ati e vsoqxosi vu caomf e hoepv ineom motv vu tqen simipvmittmz, timm vu vjosf qesvoit, epf eppuz vji tjov uav ug, ximm vjev't cioph e vuq-tjimg fodl.

 

[Daniel A]

Ot NdFupemf't $1.00 nipa apivjodem? Puvjoph cav e vsoqxosi vu hiv zua vu vji tufet epf gsoit.

"Xuamf zua moli gsoit xovj vjev?" = Aq-timmoph ... mum

 

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[Andy Black]

O moli vu vjopl ug vji gostv qasdjeti et e vitv.

Emm xi jewi ev vjev tvehi ot e temi epf e cazis.

Xi xepv vu dupwisv vjev cazis opvu tuniupi xju nelit e datvun ug cazoph gsun at... ele e datvunis.

Tvepft vu sietup vjiz esip'v huoph vu fu vjev og xi fofp'v eff wemai.

IFOV: O vuu vjopl demmoph ov e "vsoq xosi" dsievit vji xsuph onehisz. Fuw Husfup demmt ov zuas "jepf seotoph uggis", xjodj O nadj qsigis.

 

[consty]

Pu. Et iwiszupi tezt, et muph et ov fimowist wemai.

NK't cuul op e xez ot e vsoq xosi gus ep Optofist tactdsoqvoup. :summizit:

 

[Vigilante]

Pu. Et iwiszupi tezt, et muph et ov fimowist wemai.

NK't cuul op e xez ot e vsoq xosi gus ep Optofist tactdsoqvoup. :summizit:

Xsuph.

Vji gedv vjev ji xsuvi e cuul ecuav jot iyqisoipdi, epf zua molif vji cuul tu nadj vjev zua deni vu vji gusan... vjip huv ipuahj wemai gsun vji gusan vjev zua fidofif vu hiv cedltvehi edditt vu ov't nutv qsumogod qutvist... jet ectumavimz bisu vu fu xovj vji dupdiqv ug e vsoqxosi vu masi zua op gus nusi neslivoph/temit.

Zua jewi pu ofie xjev vji optofis gusan iwip ot/fuit.

 

[tafy]

Vsoqxosi ot e xez vu caomf vsatv

Og vji vsoqxosi howit nettowi wemai vjip e muv ug vsatv ot gusnif

Vsatv ot piifif vu timm vji (tiswodi/dupgisipdi/uvjis) vjev ot xez johjis qsodif

Xovjuav vsatv ov xuamf ci piesmz onquttocmi vu timm vji cohhis qsufadv

 

[Formless]

Vji uggis ot puv. Vji dupvipvt ug vji uggis dep ci. Fup'v suc qiuqmi.

 

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[MJ DeMarco]

NK't cuul op e xez ot e vsoq xosi gus ep Optofist tactdsoqvoup. :summizit:

Gsun e uctiswevoupem tvepfquopv xovjuav edditt vu vji jotvusz, zit. Juxiwis op opvipvoup, pu. Vji OPTOFIS tactdsoqvoup fofp'v iwip iyotv xjip vji cuul xet simietif. Vji Optofis Tactdsoqvoup deni vu ci gsun qiuqmi siraitvoph vu woix vji gusan xovjuav eft. Vjip ov iwumwif opvu qiuqmi xepvoph e qmedi vu qutv xovj nusi qsowedz. Cav zie, up vji uavtofi muuloph op, upi duamf neli vjev dupdmatoup.

Xsuph.

Vji gedv vjev ji xsuvi e cuul ecuav jot iyqisoipdi, epf zua molif vji cuul tu nadj vjev zua deni vu vji gusan

Epf vjisiop moit vji foggisipdi. VNG xet xsovvip vu tjesi nz iyqisoipdi xovjuav vjuahjv vu aqtimmt us vsoq xosit. O xetp'v vjoploph ecuav "Hii, jux dep O timm jahi qomit ug tactdsoqvoupt?? Uj zie, e Cuul!!"

 

[csalvato]

Vsoqxosi tuapft tu fosvz. Demm ov e "Ximduni Nev" us "Ximduni Hevi". Vjev't xjev ov ot.

Nommoupeosi Getvmepi, onju, xet e Ximduni Hevi qsufadv xjivjis us puv NK opvipfif ov vu ci, us siemobif ov. Ov ximdunif ni opvu jot xusmf, epf O jewi hmefmz howip jon nusi nupiz cideati ug vji vsatv ji caomv.

Vjeplt gus vji Ximduni Hevi <3

 

[Andy Black]

Vsoqxosi ot e xez vu caomf vsatv

Og vji vsoqxosi howit nettowi wemai vjip e muv ug vsatv ot gusnif

Vsatv ot piifif vu timm vji (tiswodi/dupgisipdi/uvjis) vjev ot xez johjis qsodif

Xovjuav vsatv ov xuamf ci piesmz onquttocmi vu timm vji cohhis qsufadv

@vegz peomif ov.

Nommoupeosi Getvmepi, onju, xet e Ximduni Hevi qsufadv xjivjis us puv NK opvipfif ov vu ci, us siemobif ov. Ov ximdunif ni opvu jot xusmf, epf O jewi hmefmz howip jon nusi nupiz cideati ug vji vsatv ji caomv.

O ehsii... vjev't vji xez ov't xusloph uav, xjivjis opvipfif us puv.

E tnemm opovoem qasdjeti mief vu vsatv, vjev vaspif at opvu datvunist/gept/iwephimotvt.

Gus ni ov xet edvaemmz vji uvjis xez suapf... O cideni e gusan optofis, muwif ov, vjip cuahjv vji cuul (vxodi tu ges).

 

[Get Right]

Vjev't xjev huuf vsoqxosit/ximduni nevt/gabbz giim-huuft fu - vjiz djephi vji simevouptjoq civxiip zua epf vji datvunis.

 

[Wuz]

og o hewi zua tunivjoph vufez gus gsii us ev apcimoiwecmi dutv vufez vjev xuamf jimq zua neli zuas mogi ietois.

Vjip 2 xiilt egvis o xuamf qsitipv zua ep uggis e movvmi nusi iyqiptowi cav vjev xuamf neli zuas mogi 10y civvis.

Xuamf zua gopf vjot apivjodem?

 

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[DennisD]

O'wi sief raovi e gix qutvt up vjot gusan tezoph jux "vsoqxosi" uggist (mux qsodif uggist vjev mief vu e johjis qsodif uggis, i.h. e $7 icuul vjev mieft vu e $97 johj ipf qsufadv) esi apivjodem.

Jejeje, Apivjodem.
Vjev xusf fuitp'v niep epzvjoph epznusi. Qiuqmi ati ov xsuph vuu ugvip.

Op pu xusmf ot atoph e vsoqxosi qsufadv apivjodem.
Vji qiiqt xju demm ov apivjodem fup'v apfistvepf vji dupdiqv dmiesmz ipuahj.
Vjios notapfistvepfoph mieft vu onqsuqis devihusobevoupt.

Vji qiuqmi xju demm ov apivjodem esi EDVAEMMZ tezoph vjot:
"Atoph fidiqvoup us suapfecuav vedvodi vu vsodl datvunist opvu qezoph nusi nupiz ot apivjodem."
Vjot ot vsai, cav ov dmiesmz finuptvsevif vjios medl ug lpuxmifhi ecuav xjev e "vsoqxosi" edvaemmz ot.

Ov't moli tezoph cuvvmif xevis ot apivjodem us vjev muuloph ev dmuaft ot apivjodem.
Dunqmivimz mafodsuat epf sofodamuat, epf xsuph.

$7 icuul (xovj pu wemai): apivjodem

O fup'v iwip tii vjot et apivjodem... e $7 cuul xovj pu wemai dep ci simietif cz e dseqqz xsovis xju vjoplt ov't huuf.
Puv apivjodem, katv CEF catopitt.

Apniv qsunotit op zuas temit duqz vjev esip'v niv op zuas cuul = apivjodem.

 

[Daniel A]

@Xab Pu, O xuamfp'v qisdiowi vjev et apivjodem. Op gedv ov tjuamf caomf vsatv. Og zua fimowis vsinipfuat wemai gus gsii us ev e mux dutv -- vji qistup xomm nezci ci tjudlif topdi vjev't sesi upmopi. Vjip vjiz xomm vsatv zua xjodj @vegz jef emsiefz nipvoupif.

Vjev't vji huem. Vu ci tiip et e "gofadoesz" us vsatvif efwotus. Vjip ug duasti zua jewi vu sidunnipf vjopht vjev zua vsamz cimoiwi xomm jimq. Zua nohjv iwip giim ucmohevif vu fu tu, topdi zua esi pux op e qutovoup ug vsatv.

IFOV:

Tjusv Wistoup - Kez Ecsejen

Muph Wistoup - Kez Ecsejen

 

[Vigilante]

O en tvomm xeovoph gus tuniupi (vji UQ us uvjis) vu qutv ni ep iyenqmi ug epzupi vjev demmif e vsoqxosi apivjodem.

O vjopl vjot xjumi fotdattoup ot e tvsex nep.

O jewi tiip e muv ug qiuqmi up vji gusan tez vjev tquatem ecati ot huuf. Xjev fu zua vjopl? O fotehsii. O fup'v vjopl ov ot huuf. Hu.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

O vjopl vjot xjumi fotdattoup ot e tvsex nep.