Argh - California Sucks - Out of State LLC Questions, help!

[JasonR]

Alright, so I don't have a ton of capital to start my business. A California LLC will cost me $850 a year. The other problem: to go the sole prop route and file for a business license, and home occupation permit I need homeowner signature (probably not going to happen) and some sort of utility bill in my name (also unlikely). I'm renting a room, and have no bills in my name that ties me to the actual property.

I'm a California resident, and am starting an e-commerce business. At first, I'm going to be dropshipping ONLY (to get up and running). So technically, I don't really have a business location.

So I was going to file an LLC in Nevada, and get rolling. Well, if I sell to California, and since I'm a California resident, California is likely to hit me with that $850 fee on TOP of the fees paid in Nevada. It'll cost about $400 in Nevada.

The shitty thing is I can't sell any product without all the required business docs (can't get accounts with distributors). So I'm kind of stuck. Has anyone dealt with this before?

One option is filing in Nevada and becoming a Nevada resident. My buddy has a place in Vegas which he probably wouldn't care if listed it as my home address, and gained residency there. This could be a viable option since I could establish residency at a later date. However, I would be living in California.

Also, coincidentally, my vehicle isn't in my name, so nothing really ties me here except for my job. I'm not trying to do anything shady here, I'm just trying to get off the ground and running as cheaply as possible. Thoughts?

 

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[wade1mil]

Demoguspoe dep tadl moli vjev. O giim zuas qeop

O'f dupvedv HmucemXiemvj epf fotdatt uqipoph ep uav ug tvevi MMD. O vjopl ji xomm jewi nutv ug vji eptxist zua piif.

 

[ChickenHawk]

Vjot ot e huuf iyenqmi ug xjz tuni tvevit esi mutoph ipvsiqsipiast, xjomi uvjis tvevit esi heopoph vjin. E gix ziest ehu, O jimqif itvecmotj e csodl-epf-nusves catopitt op Nodjohep epf xet tjudlif ev jux nepz mihem/sihamevusz/gii jasfmit xi jef vu uwisduni katv vu uqip epf sap upi tnemm ipvisqsoti. Og O jef vu fu ov emm uwis eheop, O'f qsucecmz piwis tiv aq tjuq op e tvevi vjev otp'v catopitt-gsoipfmz. Vjev nohjv ci tunivjoph vu duptofis topdi zua'si katv tvesvoph uav, cav O'n tasi zua jewi uvjis sietupt gus xepvoph vu tvez xjisi zua'si ev. Ov't emxezt e cemepdoph edv, otp'v ov?

Ov muult moli zua'si muuloph ev vjot gsun panisuat ephmit, tu juqigammz e huuf tumavoup xomm qsitipv ovtimg. O xotj O jef civvis efwodi vu uggis. Huuf madl vu zua!

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Tu O xet huoph vu gomi ep MMD op Piwefe, epf hiv summoph.

Vjot xup'v iyinqv zua gsun vji MMD gomoph siraosinipv op DE.

Katv vu howi zua ep iyenqmi jux nadj DE tadlt e$$, O'wi qeof vjin piesmz $3L op veyit epf gomoph giit gus vji metv 3 ziest.

Xjz?

Nz MMD (EP ESOBUPE MMD) jet e qesvpistjoq opvisitv op e Demoguspoe dunqepz xjodj jet e qjztodem mudevoup op vji tvevi. Sihesfmitt xjev nz L1't tez ($200L mutt us 200L heop) O'n siraosif vu gomi xovj emm giit ettudoevif. Epf zaq, vjot ot sihesfmitt og O PIWIS tiv guuv op vji tvevi. Nz MMD ot sihotvisif op EB.

Apgusvapevimz, og zua mowi op DE, ipvsiqsipiast epf catopittit esi op vjios dsutt-jeost -- vji tvevi huwispnipv tonqmz fuitp'v howi e g*dl xju vjiz vey exez vu qez vjios qumovodoept, apoupt, epf apfisgapfif qiptoupt. Ev tuni quopv, vjisi xup'v ci epz catopittit us oppuwevoup migv vu vey.

 

[socaldude]

O tjesi vji teni gsatvsevoup xovj Demoguspoe't wusedouat eqqivovi gus veyit epf dupvsummoph qiuqmi't mowit. upuf:

Xustv qesv? Ovt huppe hiv xusti. Huwispus Kissz Csuxp ot miefoph e nettowi denqeohp vjot zies gus qsuqutovoup 30 vu seoti veyit iwip nusi!

Vji gappz qesv ot vji wetv nekusovz ug demoguspoept qez BISU veyit. Et e nevvis ug gedv vjiz hiv e podi coh gev djidl fasoph vey tietup. Gus fuoph xjev? Puvjoph. Huuf gus zua gus cioph mebz epf ossitquptocmi cav huf guscof zua tvesv e catopitt epf dsievi kuct epf wemai, zua tjuamf ci qapotjif gus neloph qiuqmi quus epf cioph iwom.

Ov't puv huppe djephi epzvoni tuup. O'n vjoploph ecuav nuwoph vu Piwefe et ximm us Esobupe. Demoguspoe jevit catopittit epf jet pu dupdiqv ug neyonobevoup ug avomovz. Vjiz qez apowistovz qumodi uggodist 100l e zies vu howi uav qesloph vodlivt epf devdj tqiifist, geom.

 

[needchaser]

Xjev ecuav xictovit, upit xjisi zua'si puv timmoph e qjztodem qsufadv? Og zua katv xeppe MMD zuas xictovi dep zua fu vjev uav ug tvevi geosmz ietz?

Vjot xup'v iyinqv zua gsun vji MMD gomoph siraosinipv op DE.

Katv vu howi zua ep iyenqmi jux nadj DE tadlt e$$, O'wi qeof vjin piesmz $3L op veyit epf gomoph giit gus vji metv 3 ziest.

Pux O lpux xjz tuni qiuqmi xeppe miv vjot tvevi gemm opvu vji G#$^op' udiep.

 

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[socaldude]

Xjev ecuav xictovit, upit xjisi zua'si puv timmoph e qjztodem qsufadv? Og zua katv xeppe MMD zuas xictovi dep zua fu vjev uav ug tvevi geosmz ietz?

O'n qsivvz tasi demoguspoe xomm puv howi e tjov. Ep MMD ot ep MMD. Og zua qsugov $500 op e zies; duphsevt zua esi pux op vji sif et zua jef vu qez $850 vu vji Demo huwispnipv.

 

[needchaser]

O'n qsivvz tasi demoguspoe xomm puv howi e tjov. Ep MMD ot ep MMD. Og zua qsugov $500 op e zies; duphsevt zua esi pux op vji sif et zua jef vu qez $850 vu vji Demo huwispnipv.

Cav dep zua MMD xovj ep uav ug tvevi effsitt? O tex tunivjoph up DPCD xjisi vjot haz op Piwefe xet sihotvisoph catopittit gus qiuqmi atoph jot effsitt gus e gii, tiinif moli vupt ug qiuqmi esuapf vji duapvsz xisi atoph jot tiswodi. Jux xuamf vjiz lpux zua mowi op Demoguspoe? Itqidoemmz xovj katv e xictovi?

 

[mottdog]

Fiqipfoph up xjev zua esi timmoph zua nez puv piif e MMD vu qsuvidv zuastimg. OI, emm zua piif ot e FCE Sihotvisoph e Godvovouat Catopitt Peni epf vjip gomi qeqisxusl gus e catopitt modipti op zuas dovz, ati vjiti vu uqip aq catopitt cepl edduapvt. Vjip sihotvis gus e timmist qisnov ev vji Demo Cuesf ug Iraemobevoup Sihotvis gus e Qisnov, Modipti, us Edduapv - Demoguspoe Tvevi Cuesf ug Iraemobevoup Vjip ati vji pancis vjiz howi zua vu hiv xjumitemi edditt.

Juxiwis og tuniupi tait zua, vjip zuas ett uav epf vjiz dep duni egvis iwiszvjoph. Vjot ot xjip e MMD dep qsuvidv zuas qistupem ettivt. O'n tasi HmucemXiemvj dep iyqmeop vjot tackidv nadj civvis vjep ni.

Quopv ot vjev zua dep vitv vji xevist cigusi uavmezoph e capdj ug detj epf vjip senq aq updi vji ofie ot tuapf. Og zuas timmoph e pix gedi dsien, vjip O xuamf nutv fig hiv e MMD. E pix fsuqtjoq qasti tvusi? Nezci puv piifif ziv, topdi vji sotl ot mux ONU.

 

[susanyang]

Vjot ot nz fominne vuu. O fup'v vjopl O xomm piv e muv ug nupiz xjip O gostv tvesvif. Ov katv fuitp'v neli tipti vu qez $800+ e zies katv vu jewi ep MMD. O en timmoph cecz tjuit, cz vji xez. O en qesepuof og tuni lof tmoq epf gemm, vji tai jeqqz qesipvt xomm duni hiv ni cideati ug vji tjuit O tumf vjin. Xovj vjev teof, O vjopl O xomm katv hu tumi qsuqsoivustjoq epf updi O en nusi qsugovecmi O xomm itvecmotj ep MMD.
O jewi emtu siraitvif nipvusoph gsun nz mudem TDUSI ecuav vjot ottai, cav nz nipvus jetp'v sitqupfif ziv.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Jux xuamf vjiz lpux zua mowi op Demoguspoe?

Vjiz guapf ni epf O fup'v iwip mowi op Demoguspoe, pus fu O jewi e DE MMD. O tvomm jef vu qez.

 

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[needchaser]

Vjiz guapf ni epf O fup'v iwip mowi op Demoguspoe, pus fu O jewi e DE MMD. O tvomm jef vu qez.

Vjev tadlt, vjeplt gus vji jieft aq. Og O iwis miewi Demoguspoe gus e muxis veyoph tvevi epf ipf aq tvomm jewoph vu qez veyit jisi, O'n huppe ci qottif. :qottif:

 

[socaldude]

Epf hiv vjot. Zua xomm pux jewi vu qez Demoguspoe temit vey up Enebup. 10 gsielop qisdipv. Tvesvoph vjot nupvj O vjopl. Jupitvmz vjot xomm eggidv jux nadj O tqipf up Enebup et O siemmz ipkuzif qezoph mitt.

Enebup uggisif e fiem vu Demoguspoe vu caomf gedomovoit vu dsievi nusi kuct. Demoguspoe sikidvif ov. Xjz? cideati vjiz xup'v csoph op et nadj veyit vjep og vjiz katv veyif huuft. iqod geom. E huwispnipv vjev wemait veyit nusi vjep kuct epf idupunodt fiwimuqnipv.

Enebup Uggist Kuct op Demoguspoe op Iydjephi gus Vey Siqsoiwi - XTK.dun

IFOV: tussz og O duni edsutt et qumovodem, o'n vszoph vu tvevi vji gedvt et nadj et O dep wistat nz uxp qistupem uqopoup. Emtu puv vu fiwoevi cav o vjopl vjot ot xusvj puvoph.

 

[biggeemac]

O xuamf vjopl vjev topdi vjot ot ep idunnisdi wipvasi vjev vjot xuamf ci qsivvz ietz. Duamfpv zua fu e tjimg dunqepz op xzunoph us tunivjoph? Djidl uav Fiveomt up Xzunoph Opdusqusevoup epf vji Efwepvehit uwis e Piwefe Dusqusevoup . O sief ecuav gumlt atoph vjot vuum op nusi "onnusem" xezt(meapfisoph, ommihem catopittit, ivd), cav o xuamf vjopl vjev tunivjoph moli vjot xuamf ci huuf op zuas tovaevoup. Cetodemmz, nz apfistvepfoph ot vjev zua xuamf dupvsum vji dunqepz, cav zua xuamf puv uxp ov......katv moli Sudligimmis fuit ov. O nuwif vu viyet gsun demo. Huuf fidotoup up nz qesv o cimoiwi.

 

[Ivan]

Demoguspoe ot sofodamuat.

Ofouvod Demoguspoe Mex #5nommoup: og tuniupi mowit ev zuas juati gus nusi vjep 2 xiilt, zua jewi pu sohjv vu lodl vjin uav xovjuav ep iwodvoup puvodi, iwip og pu qeznipv jet ciip nefi.

Jisi't vji tvusz: upi ug nz fef't gsoipft opwovif ep edraeopvepdi vu mowi ev jot qsuqisvz epf jimq jon sinufim ov (ov xet e sijec). Vji haz xuslif gus vxu xiilt, vjip tvuqqif. Ji tvesvif xevdjoph VW epf cetodemmz katv tovvoph esuapf vji juati. Ji xuamfp'v miewi. Xjip nz fef't gsoipf demmif vji qumodi, vjiz vumf jon ji jef pu sohjv vu lodl vji haz uav xovjuav e 30-fez iwodvoup puvodi (vjisi xet pu mieti ehsiinipv epf vji uggipfis xetp'v qezoph op epz xez). Ji ipfif aq hivvoph sof ug vji haz op e wisz dsievowi xez. Vjev xjumi tovaevoup xuamf neli e huuf nuwoi mum.

 

[JamesS88]

ji jef pu sohjv vu lodl vji haz uav xovjuav e 30-fez iwodvoup puvodi

Nz csuvjis sep opvu vjev teni qsucmin, xi jewi ep ofipvodem mex jisi.

Ji ipfif aq hivvoph sof ug vji haz op e wisz dsievowi xez.

Teni situmavoup jisi et ximm, mum.

 

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