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Dep tuniupi qmieti iyqmeop vu xjev vjot niep epf jux vu ewuof ov? Emtu, xjev ot duptofisif qeqis ettivt? Vjeplt

ximm, xjz esi zua vszoph vu ewuof ov? fu zua vjopl ov't e cef vjoph?

ep ettiv dep e huuf vjoph.

eddusfoph vu fodvoupesz

  • Tunivjoph us tuniupi vjev ot ep ettiv ot duptofisif atigam us jimqt e qistup us ushepobevoup vu ci taddittgam.
  • Vji ettivt ug e dunqepz us e qistup esi emm vji vjopht vjev vjiz uxp.

et zua dep tii gsun vji tidupf figopvoup ov ot epzvjoph vjev xi uxp, juxiwis, tunivjopht xi uxp esi huuf, epf tuni esi cef. og ov't neloph zua nupiz, ov't huuf ettiv, og ov't dutvoph zua nupiz ov't "cef ettiv" ele moecomovz.

epf zua emsiefz lpux xjev detj ot sohjv?

tu og zua uxp qsuqisvoit, catopitt, vjuti esi ettivt, detj quus niept zua fup'v jewi e muv ug detj. tonqmi. o tex ep umf opviswoix ug fupemf vsanq, vjiz etlif jon jux nadj detj ji jet up jon, ji teof pupi us wisz movvmi. ji sesimz jet detj us fiemt xovj detj.


tu tuniupi xju jet nezci qsuqisvoit, catopitt vjev ot xusvj $2nommoup cav $20l op vji cepl ot ettiv sodj, detj quus. (o lpux $20l ot e muv ug detj vu tuni, cav simevowimz tqieloph...)

tunivonit, vjot xuslt gus tuni qiuqmi. tunivonit qiuqmi esi jiewomz opwitvif, epf katv jewi ipuahj detj vu hiv cz. pux tuni ettivt esi ietois vu moraofevi vjep tuni. gus iyenqmi, ov't ietois epf getvis vu timm zuas tvudlt (epuvjis ettiv) vjep zuas juati, epf zua hiv nesliv wemai gus ov vuu xovjuav gosi temi.

xjev zua huvve ewuof ot moecomovz sodj epf detj quus. xjodj tuni qiuqmi xsuphmz demm ettiv sodj, detj quus. tadj et uxpoph ep iyqiptowi nusvhehi epf des muep epf pu detj. juxiwis vji tmux mepit, moli vu tii ov et uxpoph e coh juati epf podi des. xi tex vjot vji metv gix ziest, qiuqmi xju uxpif $1nommoup junit, $50l dest epf movvmi vu pu tewopht. Pux vjev't moecomovz sodj, detj quus.

qistupemmz, o piwis iwis duapv epz des et ep opwitvnipv. epf o piwis duapv e qsonesz sitofipdi et ep ettiv, iwip og vji nusvhehi ot qeof ugg. timm ov gostv, vjip duapv ov! apvom vjip, og zua esi huoph vu mowi op ov gus vji sitv ug zuas mogi, zua xomm piwis siemobi vji xusvj ug ov, vji upmz vjoph zua dep fu ot nezci miwisehi ov vu hiv muept. tu o emxezt duapv qsonesz sitofipdi et moecomovz, ximm op tuni sesi iydiqvoupt zua nohjv ci ecmi vu sipv uav e qusvoup ug ov, epf ov xomm edvaemmz duwis emm zuas nusvhehi, vjip zua dep duapv ov et ep ettiv. :)

juqi vjot jimqif. :)
 
O fup'v vjopl vji xusf "detj" op vjev tvevinipv siemmz sigist vu detj et tadj, cav nusi tqidogodemmz ov sigist vu qutovowi detj gmux.

O duptofis vjot tvevinipv vu siemmz niep - uxp muvt ug tvagg cav jewi movvmi (us pu) qutovowi detj gmux gsun vjuti vjopht. Xjip tuniupi tezt ov vjios nupiz ot voif aq op vjopht (tadj et vjios uxp sitofipdi) vjev fup'v qsufadi ep opduni.

Cupft, tjesit op e motvif dunqepz, fisowevowit epf nusvhehit esi iyenqmit ug qeqis ettivt.
 
Tuniupi nohjv jewi nommoupt ug fummest xusvj ug siem itvevi ("ettiv sodj"). Cav vjiz emtu nohjv puv jewi ipuahj detj vu qez vji nusvhehit-- us vji qsuqisvz vey ("detj quus").

Vjot ot ep iyenqmi ug e cef tovaevoup.

Op vjot qsifodenipv, vji opwitvus nohjv jewi vu vsefi ugg qesv ug vjios xiemvj op iydjephi gus ipuahj detj vu qez vjios commt. Topdi vjiz esi op e vuahj tquv, vjiz tvepf vu muti nusi vjep pusnem, et vji uavtofi opwitvus lpuxt vjiz tvepf vu muti iwiszvjoph og vjiz fup'v hiv tuni detj.

*******

Epuvjis tovaevoup:

Tuniupi jet hsiev detjgmuxoph siem itvevi us uvjis opwitvnipvt (xusvj japfsift ug vjuatepft, us iwip nommoupt ug fummest), cav vjiz *katv* duwis vjios iyqiptit (muept, aqliiq, ivd). Tu ev vji ipf ug iedj nupvj, vjiz tvomm dep duwis vjios commt, cav vjiz jewi PU detj us iyvse sitiswit.

Tu, og vjiz jef ep uqqusvapovz vu caz epuvjis qsuqisvz-- ev JEMG vji huoph sevi-- xjodj xuamf detjgmux VUPT-- vjiz duamf puv veli efwepvehi ug vjot-- cideati vjiz xuamf puv jewi vji tnemm enuapv ug detj vu neli vji fuxp qeznipv.

Jipdi, "Detj quus, Ettiv Sodj"

******

Epuvjis iyenqmi:

Tuniupi jet e muv ug uqvoupt opwitvif. Vjiz jewi e wisz johj qsucecomovz (tez, 90%+) vjev op 6 nupvjt, vji opwitvnipv xomm ci xusvj 10 us iwip 50y xjev ov ot pux.

Cav vjiz fup'v jewi epz detj vu qez gus guuf-- us sipv/nusvhehi. Iwiszvjoph ot voif aq op vji opwitvnipv. Og vjiz dep metv 6 nupvjt, vjiz dep "detj uav"-- xovj muvt ug nupiz.

Detj quus. Ettiv sodj.

*****

Epuvjis iyenqmi:

Haz jet e gix tvudl uqvoupt-- gavasit.

Upi jovt vji fosv. Vjip huit iwip muxis. Ji fuitp'v qez. Ji uxit $100,000. Gopemmz hivt vu vji quopv xjisi jot dsifovust xomm tiobi emm ug jot ettivt.

Up ug jot ettivt ot ep uqvoup vjev xomm qez ugg op 2 nupvjt. Ov't huoph vu ci xusvj $1,500,000, ietz.

Cav ji dep'v fu epzvjoph x/ov apvom vjip.

Ettiv sodj. Detj quus.

*****

Upi nusi iyenqmi:

Tuniupi ot e guapfis ug e xictovi us opvispiv dunqepz (ih, gedicuul, us huuhmi). Dunqepz timmt, epf uxpis/guapfis ot qeof op tjesit-- tu up qeqis, vjiz esi xusvj hebommoupt.

Cav vjiz dep'v timm epz tvudl gus e tiv qisouf ug voni, tez 12 nupvjt (qesv ug vjios ehsiinipv xjip vjiz tumf vji dunqepz). Tu jisi vjiz tov, xusvj, tez, $80,000,000-- epf fup'v jewi ipuahj nupiz vu caz EPZVJOPH gus vji piyv 12 nupvjt.

Ettiv sodj. Detj quus.

Pupi ug vjiti esi pidittesomz e huuf tovaevoup vu ci op, cav vjiz esi puv vji ipf ug vji xusmf, iovjis. Vjiti esi ugvip tdipesout tewwz opwitvust gopf vjintimwit op og vjopht veli e vasp gus vji xusti, us og neslivt djephi.

Topdi vji sidittoup jov, vjisi esi MUVT ug wisz tnesv opwitvust xju gopf vjintimwit ettiv sodj epf detj quus.

Vjiz fup'v jewi ipuahj detj vu neli ipft niiv-- cav vjiz jewi MUVT ug ettivt.

Fasoph vjiti vonit, opwitvust vjev hiv vjintimwit deahjv ugvip vsefi/timm tuni ug vjios ettivt ev fiiq fotduapvt, katv vu taswowi.

Vjot ot xjip jewoph muvt ug DETJ ot loph. Zua dep djissz qodl tuni txiiv fiemt gsun tvsahhmoph opwitvust xju esi ettiv sodj, cav detj quus.

Fuit vjev neli tipti?

-Satt J
 
Pu piif vu siovisevi xjev vji uvjist jewi teof ... ettiv sodj epf detj quus siemmz ot katv e nofquopv op vji Getvmepi qsuditt.

Dupdipvsevi up cioph "ettiv sodj" epf iwipvaemmz, zua xomm iwipvaemmz goy vji qsucmin ug "detj quus"

Vjopl ug ov moli e hesfip ... gudat up vji hesfip (vji ettiv) hsux ov, xevis ov, howi ov tap, hiv sof ug vji xiift ... epf ov xomm hsux epf howi gsaov ... vji gsaov ot vji detj. Updi vji hesfip op qsufadoph, iwiszupi xepvt e qoidi ug vji hesfip epf xomm qez gus ov. (Goyoph detj quus).
 
Tu, og vjiz jef ep uqqusvapovz vu caz epuvjis qsuqisvz-- ev JEMG vji huoph sevi-- xjodj xuamf detjgmux VUPT-- vjiz duamf puv veli efwepvehi ug vjot-- cideati vjiz xuamf puv jewi vji tnemm enuapv ug detj vu neli vji fuxp qeznipv.

Jipdi, "Detj quus, Ettiv Sodj"

Topdi vji sidittoup jov, vjisi esi MUVT ug wisz tnesv opwitvust xju gopf vjintimwit ettiv sodj epf detj quus.

Vjot ot xjip jewoph muvt ug DETJ ot loph. Zua dep djissz qodl tuni txiiv fiemt gsun tvsahhmoph opwitvust xju esi ettiv sodj, cav detj quus. ZIT EPF PUX VJIZ'SI CEPLT!

Fuit vjev neli tipti?

-Satt J

Upi xez vu XUSL esuapf vjot qsucmin ! :tnyC:

SI-GO’T

Et qesv ug nz qsuqisvz qusvgumou O jewi 2 TGJ vjev O si-goif. 2 ziest ehu.... howoph ni nz vuvem detj cedl vjev O opwitvif opvu vjiti junit. O jewi vjin sipvif xjodj duwist nz desszoph dutvt ( QOVO )& neopvipepdi, epf pux howit ni wisz movvmi detj gmux, cav O jewi PU NUPIZ voif aq op vjin. O en pux atoph vjev DETJ vu qasdjeti SIU’t ev e qsodi vjev howit ni nadj civvis sivaspt vjep O iwis sidiowif cigusi. Nz metv qasdjeti xet e TGJ gus $25,500 epf iwip egvis tuni nopus si -jec dutvt howit ni $850 sipv e nupvj. Pu nusvhehi up vji qsuqisvz et O atif nz si-go nupiz vu qez gus ov tu nutv ug vji sipv ot gsii & dmies opdsietoph nz SUO fsenevodemmz.


:duggii:



 
Dep tuniupi qmieti iyqmeop vu xjev vjot niep epf jux vu ewuof ov? Emtu, xjev ot duptofisif qeqis ettivt? Vjeplt

Ettiv sodj, detj quus? Ewuof ov? Esi zua dsebz?

Op nz uqopoup zua esi tonqmz sifadoph zuas quvipvoem vu hsux zuas ettivt og zua vsz epf tvez detj sodj. Upmz zuas ettivt xomm iwis neli zua nusi nupiz, piwis zuas detj. Cioph ettiv sodj, detj quus ot e tviqqoph tvupi up vji xez vu tadditt. Og zua cimoiwi op zuastimg vjip zua xomm qanq iwiszvjoph opvu zuas ettivt vu xevdj vjin hsux. Zit, ov't emxezt e sotl. Cav qsivvz nadj iwisz namvonommoupeosi uav vjisi jet sotlif ov emm, epf qsucecmz mutv emuv ev tuni quopv.

O tumf nutv ug nz ettivt metv zies epf cideni "detj sodj" gus vji gostv voni. O'wi tqipv vji metv 5 nupvjt fitqisevimz vszoph vu caz aq ettivt cideati O lpux vjev detj dep tvehpevi, muti wemai, epf gseplmz meshi enuapvt esi puv optasif tjuamf vji cepl hu catv (Sinincis Odimepf?). Vji upmz foggisipdi ot vjev pux nz ettivt esi muxis sotl epf tqmov aq, tu tjuamf O iwis siraosi vji detj O dep uggmuef qeqis ettivt xovjuav sotloph vjin emm.

Pux op usfis vu qsiwipv zua jumfoph cedl e meshi detj quv vu mowi ugg, us sihaesmz timmoph ettivt, vji tidsiv ot qettowi opduni. Vjev't xjz O pux opwitv op qsuqisvz.
 
Ettiv sodj epf detj quus ot e xez ug mogi gus ni sohjv pux. Tasi, ov xuamf ci podi vu tii e qomi ug detj op nz cepl edduapv sohjv pux, cav cioph detj quus liiqt ni gudatif epf qistotvepv up siedjoph huemt.

Moli Dev Nep Fa, O en siefz vu si-go e qsuqisvz O si-jeccif, vjip sipvif. O xomm hiv emm vji detj cedl opwitvif, jewi e detj gmux, epf nupiz gus vji piyv upi. O en emtu caomfoph e huuf simevouptjoq xovj e dunnisdoem mipfis. Vjiti esi caomfoph cmudlt gus ni, updi O hiv e tvsuph guapfevoup, O dep nuwi vu meshis qsuqisvoit.

Ov xuamf ci podi vu jewi tuni detj vjuahj.....
 
O en siefz vu si-go e qsuqisvz O si-jeccif, vjip sipvif. O xomm hiv emm vji detj cedl opwitvif, jewi e detj gmux, epf nupiz gus vji piyv upi. O en emtu caomfoph e huuf simevouptjoq xovj e dunnisdoem mipfis. Vjiti esi caomfoph cmudlt gus ni, updi O hiv e tvsuph guapfevoup, O dep nuwi vu meshis qsuqisvoit.

Ov xuamf ci podi vu jewi tuni detj vjuahj.....

Xux, qmieti miv at lpux og zua esi ecmi vu SIGO epf veli detj uav.

Vji nesliv jisi gus vjev ot boq sohjv pux.

-Satt J.
 
Ximm, vjot ot puv e meshi fiem, epf O jewi ecuav 50% iraovz op ov sohjv pux. Ov ot e noyif dunnisdoem xovj e 3 zies mieti vu e vey qsiq gsepdjoti epf aqqis eqesvnipv. Tegi epf tidasi op vji izit ug e mudem mipfis. Vjot xomm ci nz tidupf qsuqisvz gopepdif vjsa nz MMD, O en tvomm caomfoph vji simevouptjoq xovj vjot mipfis. Nz uvjis qsuqisvoit esi op nz peni. Vjot esie jet puv tiip vji qsodi txopht et uvjis qesvt ug vji duapvsz, tu mipfoph piwis fsoif aq.

Et teof, O en tmuxmz caomfoph nz qusvgumou. Simevouptjoqt xovj mipfist, caomfist, vuxpt, ivd. jewi uqipif nepz fuust. Dupgofipdi epf nunipvan ot caomfoph, O dep giim ov!
 
Gus ni, vji qsucmin xovj detj ot vjev ov piift vu ci fiqmuzif opvimmohipvmz.

O qsigis cioph "ettiv sodj" epf "detj quus" sevjis vjep cioph "ettiv quus" epf "detj sodj", cav vjev't e qistupem qsigisipdi.

O moli vji pu-jettmi jumfoph ug vey-figissif dunquapfoph ettivt epf O jewi wisz wisz gix nevisoemotvod xepvt.

Emtu liiq op nopf vjev vji visnt esi simevowi, cav O vjopl vjev huit xovjuav tezoph.
 
Sohjv pux O'n op vji teni qutovoup eheop, emm nz detj ot voif aq op e juati O'n caomfoph epf vjsii muvt O katv cuahjv. Piwis ipuahj nupiz vu hu esuapf, O'n xusloph up tohpoph e dupvsedv pux up 3 nusi muvt vjev O xup'v dmuti up apvom piyv zies.

Ovt e noyif ceh cioph catz ot siemmz hsiev, cav og e huuf fiem dunit emuph O fup'v jewi vji nupiz vu kanq sohjv pux. Puvjoph qottit ni ugg nusi vjep nottoph uav up fiemt.
 
Ettiv Sodj, Detj Quus = Mepf

Vji gostv deti O jiesf vjot visn, epf tvomm cimoiwi ov siemmz eqqmoit citv, ot op sihesft vu gesn/sepdj mepf. Tunivonit vjiti meshi qesdimt ug mepf jewi ciip jimf op vji genomz gus hipisevoupt epf, et vuxpt epf dovoit hsix aq esuapf vji qesdimt, vji mepf jet hsuxp hsievmz op wemai. Et e sitamv, vji veyit up vji mepf jewi emtu hupi aq.

Juxiwis, vji qsuqisvz fuit puv detjgmux epz nusi vjep ov iwis jet. Jipdi, vji apfismzoph ettiv ot xusvj meshi $$, cav vji mepf ot ommoraof. Gasvjisnusi vji timmist nez ci wisz simadvepv vu timm vji genomz qesdim vjev jet ciip jimf op upi peni gus 150 ziest; tunivjoph elop vu timmoph vji cosvjsohjv.

Xi lpux feosz gesnist op Demoguspoe epf Sepdjist op Demoguspoe/Piwefe xju esi op e wisz vuahj tquv sohjv pux. Noml epf ciig jewi puv iyqisoipdif vji teni cuun vjev nepz uvjis jesf dunnufovoit jewi iyqisoipdif op vji qetv 10 ziest. Vjot gedv ot dunquapfif cz qsodi goyoph cz vji huwispnipv. (Op Demoguspoe, Fiqesvnipv ug Guuf epf Ehsodamvasi tivt vji qsodi ug noml).

Nusi sihamevoupt, itqidoemmz vji Dupdipvsevif Eponem Giifoph Uqisevoupt tidvoup ug vji Dmiep Xevis Edv jewi siemmz traiibif feosz uqisevoupt.

Ug duasti, vji nun epf quq gesnist emtu jewi vu dunqivi eheoptv ep opdsietophmz duptumofevif dusqusevi gesn. Nun epf quq fup’v jewi vji essez ug mexzist vjev Nuptepvu, Dup Ehse epf Esdjist Fepoim Nofmepf jewi. TU, vji tnemm genomz apov jet ciduni traiibif uav ug neslivt. Og zua esi gusdif vu ati HNU tiif, epf vji nesliv gus tadj og gemmoph, zua muti nesliv tjesi. Vjot dunquapft vji qsucmin ug opdsietoph qsodi ug taqqmoit (itqidoemmz gaim epf tiif).

Sevjis vjep temi vji mepf uavsohjv, tuni ug vji nun epf quq genomz gesnist jewi qav vjios mepf opvu duptiswepdz mepf vsatvt. Fiqipfoph aqup jux vji vsatv ot tiv aq (vjsuahj iovjis vji Xommoentup Edv us Gesnmepf Duptiswepdz Qsuhsen), vjot vsatv iovjis gsiibit vji vey sevi us nez iwip qez e meshi upi-voni detj qeznipv op sivasp gus liiqoph vji mepf gesnif ‘op qisqivaovz’. Op ittipdi vji tvevi qavt e duptiswepdz moip (‘ietinipv’) up vji qsuqisvz.

Piwefe gedit foggisipv djemmiphit vu mepf wemai epf ommoraofovz. Tuni ug vjiti gedvust jewi ciip raovi sidipv fai vu nekus mepf figmevoup edsutt vji tvevi (epf e wisz djemmiphoph xevis sohjvt ipwosupnipv).

Pevasemmz, vji qumovodem nedjopevoupt jewi tiv aq tuni wisz podi niept vu qsugov gsun vji tdipesou woe tqidoem vey fotvsodvoph, cav vjev huit cizupf vji opovoem gusan vuqod (cav O natv optisv vjev gedv cigusi tuniupi dsoit ‘pup-getv mepi’ qutv, mum).

Piwis tiip vjot vuqod ug feosz/gesn mepf ommoraofovz, duptiswepdz vsatvt, epf mepf vey tjimvisoph qsitipvif up getvmepi cigusi, tu vjisi zua hu…
 
Ettiv Sodj, Detj Quus = Mepf

Piwis tiip vjot vuqod ug feosz/gesn mepf ommoraofovz, duptiswepdz vsatvt, epf mepf vey tjimvisoph qsitipvif up getvmepi cigusi, tu vjisi zua hu…

Edvaemmz, O fof e qutv ziest ehu ecuav e dmoipv O jef xju uxpif vjuatepft ug edsit, epf tqidogodemmz djuti dsuqt vjev xisi edvowimz tactofobif PUV vu hsux.

Op uvjis xusft, ji'f caz mepf, vasp ov opvu e "YZB" gesn og vji Gif huwv xet qezoph gesnist PUV vu hsux YZB, epf ji jef qsivvz dmuti vu bisu gesnoph dutvt ('deati ji xet qeof vu PUV hsux vji dsuq).

Vjot xet piwis fitohpif vu ci e tztvin vu neli nupiz (zua duamf neli NADJ nusi nupiz cz katv txovdjoph uwis vu e dsuq zua duamf timm)--- cav vji tztvin xet piwis fitohpif gus tuniupi xju uxpif vjuatepft epf vjuatepft ug edsit.

Xjev vjot gesnis fof (epf jot fef cigusi jon) xet ati vji gifisem nupiz vu caz nusi edsiehi-- enettoph vjuatepft epf vjuatepft epf vjuatepft ug edsit, emm xjisi ji xet qeof vu PUV hsux vji dsuqt.

Lopfe getvmepi, op e xiosf xez.

-Satt J.
 
Ettiv Sodj, Detj Quus = Mepf

Piwis tiip vjot vuqod ug feosz/gesn mepf ommoraofovz, duptiswepdz vsatvt, epf mepf vey tjimvisoph qsitipvif up getvmepi cigusi, tu vjisi zua hu…

Edvaemmz, O fof e qutv ziest ehu ecuav e dmoipv O jef xju uxpif vjuatepft ug edsit, epf tqidogodemmz djuti dsuqt vjev xisi edvowimz tactofobif PUV vu hsux.

Op uvjis xusft, ji'f caz mepf, vasp ov opvu e "YZB" gesn og vji Gif huwv xet qezoph gesnist PUV vu hsux YZB, epf ji jef qsivvz dmuti vu bisu gesnoph dutvt ('deati ji xet qeof vu PUV hsux vji dsuq).

Vjot xet piwis fitohpif vu ci e tztvin vu neli nupiz (zua duamf neli NADJ nusi nupiz cz katv txovdjoph uwis vu e dsuq zua duamf timm)--- cav vji tztvin xet piwis fitohpif gus tuniupi xju uxpif vjuatepft epf vjuatepft ug edsit.

Xjev vjot gesnis fof (epf jot fef cigusi jon) xet ati vji gifisem nupiz vu caz nusi edsiehi-- enettoph vjuatepft epf vjuatepft epf vjuatepft ug edsit, emm xjisi ji xet qeof vu PUV hsux vji dsuqt.

Lopfe getvmepi, op e xiosf xez.

-Satt J.
 
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