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Hey guys,

I've been around the forum a while now, and generally my projects are weird and wonderful. They're the kind of ideas that get people over-excited, and seem like a blast to work on, like our last project (all of which is in the INSIDERS Section, if you're not in there, get in there!). Well, unfortunately this style of project has an inherit high-risk of failure. This became obvious during my 1-on-1 call with the legendary @JackEdwards last week.

My business partner is @bane, and we're ready to finally hit the Fastlane!

Our Idea
Our idea is simple. We found an old industry, basically, just tradespeople in a particular category, most of which buy all of their day-to-day items from their local trade store. We're now planning to bypass retail, and sell direct to these businesses at a discounted rate. We're also aiming to take the best features of our major competitors, and combine them into one product. We'll make over $200 profit with every one sold from what we can tell, but it will all depend on volume .etc.

Our Execution
After tracking down suppliers, and finding out we can easily get our hands on this product (just not confirmed on quality yet, but we'll get to that), we decided we had to talk to some businesses, while trying to find out the following information:
  • How many do they buy per month
  • What do they pay
  • The exact type they use most often
  • Where they buy from
  • Payment terms, warranty, anything else we could get out of them.
Hitting The Phones
We started calling on Monday, and we've called 23 people in this industry so far. Our original plan was to just target small towns, but we found that we can actually sell to guys in major cities, so it's a much bigger market than we realized!

I've got plenty of experience with cold-calling, Bane got his first chance to hit the phones though, and totally killed it. Our script started off like this:
"Hey mate, my name is Jared, I'd love a minute of your time just to ask you a few questions, *I'm not trying to sell you anything*, have you got a minute?" Then firing away.

Just some notes for anyone doing this. You say "I'm not trying to sell you anything" because they are waiting for a reason to hang-up if you are. This cuts through that.

You also need to quickly establish that this is NOT a customer call, they will get excited that it's a new customer, then when you take that away from them, they'll just want to get off the phone as they've been let down.

Overall, the majority were happy to talk to us. I ended up getting creative at the end and have a guy that would have bought 10 off us immediately. As soon as we have stock, he'll buy. We had 2 other calls go the same, they'll probably buy immediately, plenty of others are very likely to convert as soon as we have the item in stock.

The Next Steps
After such a successful start, we have no doubt we can sell this product. So now the issue is making sure we have great quality. I've dealt with China before, and it can be hard to get decent quality.

Does anyone have any tips for this? We need a very high quality, and for them to honor any warranty they give. We'll be asking for references in English speaking countries so we can follow them up, and double check the quality, we'll also do independent testing, but can anyone think of any other tips for ensuring we have great quality?

Anyway, thanks for reading guys! A very special thank you to Jack, he's made this all possible. Our focus was definitely in the wrong direction, there are far easier ways to make a million dollars than to invent the next Facebook, we had just never thought about it the right way.

We confidently concluded that the dudes are not loyal to the trade store or the current brands, they will switch to us for the right price even if it means having to hold some in stock (since we won't have a physical store for them)
 
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Katv dasouat et vu jux fu zua qmep up jepfmoph vji muhotvodt. Esi zua jewoph vji nepagedvasis tjoq fosidv, atoph e fotvsocavus, us siqedlehoph epf tjoqqoph gsun zuas mudevoup?
 
Katv dasouat et vu jux fu zua qmep up jepfmoph vji muhotvodt. Esi zua jewoph vji nepagedvasis tjoq fosidv, atoph e fotvsocavus, us siqedlehoph epf tjoqqoph gsun zuas mudevoup?
Tvomm xusloph uav vji iyedv muhotvodt, cav xi'mm figopovimz ci xesijuatoph jisi. Xi'mm ci caomfoph e csepf, tu tmoqqoph op uas uxp atis nepaemt .ivd ot e natv (qmat vji Djopiti upit emxezt tadl). Xi'mm ci atoph duasoist tvseohjv gsun uas xesijuati gsun vji muul ug ov, cav esi muuloph ev uas uqvoupt et ges et fotvsocavust jisi.
 
Katv tuni puvit gus epzupi fuoph vjot. Zua tez "O'n puv vszoph vu timm zua epzvjoph" cideati vjiz esi xeovoph gus e sietup vu jeph-aq og zua esi. Vjot davt vjsuahj vjev.

ua emtu piif vu raodlmz itvecmotj vjev vjot ot PUV e datvunis demm, vjiz xomm hiv iydovif vjev ov't e pix datvunis, vjip xjip zua veli vjev exez gsun vjin, vjiz'mm katv xepv vu hiv ugg vji qjupi et vjiz'wi ciip miv fuxp.
Vjeplt gus vjiti. O'mm ci neloph nusi dumf demmt vufez tu vjot xomm jimq ni puv tadl et cef :)
 
Jiz hazt,

Ximm, apgusvapevimz vjot tvzmi ug qsukidv jet ep opjisov johj-sotl ug geomasi. Vjot cideni ucwouat fasoph nz 1-up-1 demm xovj vji mihipfesz @KedlIfxesft metv xiil.

Xjz tadj e johj sotl?

Esi zua fuoph epzvjoph tqidogod vu novhevi tuni ug vji sotl?

O etl, cideati O en op vji qsuditt ug dupvedvoph wesouat taqqmz juatit vu hiv ep ofie ug tuni qsufadvt vjiz caz epf timm sihamesmz. Amvonevimz vu tvesv e catopitt tonomes vu xjev Kedl jet ciip wisz uqip ecuav up jot vjsief epf nz 1-up-1 demm xovj jon.
 
Xjz tadj e johj sotl?

Esi zua fuoph epzvjoph tqidogod vu novhevi tuni ug vji sotl?

O etl, cideati O en op vji qsuditt ug dupvedvoph wesouat taqqmz juatit vu hiv ep ofie ug tuni qsufadvt vjiz caz epf timm sihamesmz. Amvonevimz vu tvesv e catopitt tonomes vu xjev Kedl jet ciip wisz uqip ecuav up jot vjsief epf nz 1-up-1 demm xovj jon.
Jiz nevi, vjeplt gus zuas siqmz. O xet tqidogodemmz vemloph ecuav vji umf lopft ug catopittit O xet djetoph (gap upit) jewoph vji johjitv sotl ug geomasi.

Vjot ot cetif up e gix covt ug nevjt. Xovj vidj dunqepoit cidunoph 'duum', vjisi esi mueft ug hazt vszoph vu neli vji piyv Gedicuul. Puv nepz dep taddiif. Vjisi esi PU zuaph ipvsiqsipiast vszoph vu fotsaqv umf opfatvsoit. Jux nepz hazt up vji gusan fu zua vjopl esi vszoph vu tvesv e pix catopitt timmoph pavt epf cumvt vu nidjepodt? Pupi!

Xjz puv vjuahj? Cideati ov't puv hmenusuat. Cav vjiz ati vjin iwisz fez, epf emxezt xomm - og zua dep hiv ov vu vjin djieqis, epf tewi vjin $Y,000 e zies, zua'mm jewi e datvunis gus mogi og tiswodif dussidvmz.

Vji uvjis vjoph ot - zua fup'v jewi vu xussz ecuav 'vseggod' moli zua fu xovj upmopi. Xjoq uav vji zimmux qehit; foem vji qjupi, epf zua'si op gsupv ug vji qisgidv qistup gus zuas qsufadv. Xepv vu lpux vji citv qesv? Vjiz'si EMSIEFZ CAZOPH OV.

Vjot ot xjz Kedlt nivjuf ot muhodem. Epf vji sitqupti xi'wi jef up vji qjupit tu ges ot uwisxjimnophmz tumof. Pux ov't voni vu hiv e raemovz qsufadv, epf tvesv neloph siem nupiz!
 
Ejj vjeplt gus vji dmesogodevoup. O vjuahjv zua xisi tezoph vjot pix catopitt xet sotlz. O apfistvepf pux.

Huuf madl vu zua cuvj!
 
Xjisi esi a gsun? on gsun vji al

O qmep up fuoph vji teni vjoph. Katv piif e duaqmi ug iyqiptowi ovint xovj huuf neshopt (fuitpv iwiszupi). vji neop huem ot vu caomf vji pancis ug dmoipvt. vjip jov vjin xovj e pix qsufadv mopi gsun voni vu voni. Vjip zua tdemi vu namvoqmi xesijuatit epf e nettowi uggodi.
 
Uas ofie ot tonqmi. Xi guapf ep umf opfatvsz, cetodemmz, katv vsefitqiuqmi op e qesvodames devihusz, nutv ug xjodj caz emm ug vjios fez-vu-fez ovint gsun vjios mudem vsefi tvusi. Xi'si pux qmeppoph vu czqett siveom, epf timm fosidv vu vjiti catopittit ev e fotduapvif sevi. Xi'si emtu eonoph vu veli vji citv gievasit ug uas nekus dunqivovust, epf duncopi vjin opvu upi qsufadv. Xi'mm neli uwis $200 qsugov xovj iwisz upi tumf gsun xjev xi dep vimm, cav ov xomm emm fiqipf up wumani .ivd.

O nez ci nott apfistvepfoph, zua teof zua esi qmeppoph vu czqett siveom xjodj ot dupgatoph vu ni. En O dussidv op tezoph vjev zua esi qmeppoph vu dav uav vji mudem xjumitemi taqqmz juatit? Gus iyenqmi, optvief ug e qmancis huoph vu ECD qmancoph taqqmoit (xjisi dupvsedvust jewi edduapvt) op vjios piohjcusjuuf, vjiz esi huoph vu caz fosidv gsun zua epf zua xomm tjoq vu vjin xovj e civvis qsodi?

Us fof zua niep zua esi qmeppoph vu timm vu dupvsedvust fosidv epf vjsuahj fotvsocavust, cav zua jewi pu opvipvoup ug hivvoph zuas qsufadvt opvu vji mudem siveom jesfxesi tvusit?
 
En O dussidv op tezoph vjev zua esi qmeppoph vu dav uav vji mudem xjumitemi taqqmz juatit? Gus iyenqmi, optvief ug e qmancis huoph vu ECD qmancoph taqqmoit (xjisi dupvsedvust jewi edduapvt) op vjios piohjcusjuuf, vjiz esi huoph vu caz fosidv gsun zua epf zua xomm tjoq vu vjin xovj e civvis qsodi?
Dussidv!
Vji dassipv djeop gus vji vsefitnip ot:
Nepagedvasis > Xjumitemis > Fotvsocavus/Siveomis (Mudem ECD Qmancoph Taqqmoit) > Vsefitnip (> Ipf Duptanis)

Xi xomm ci:
Nepagedvasis > Xjumitemis > (Tjoqqoph Fosidvmz vu:) Vsefitnip (> Ipf Duptanis/Gsoipfmz Dovobip)

Us fof zua niep zua esi qmeppoph vu timm vu dupvsedvust fosidv epf vjsuahj fotvsocavust, cav zua jewi pu opvipvoup ug hivvoph zuas qsufadvt opvu vji mudem siveom jesfxesi tvusit?
Ev vjot tvehi xi jewi pu tjusv visn opvipv ug eqqsuedjoph Siveomist. Vjev't figopovimz e gavasi qsutqidv.
Xi'wi katv dumf demmif epf fivisnopif vji nesliv xovj vji Vsefitnip vjintimwit gostv. Vjisi't ipuahj "niev" vjisi gostv EPF e medl ug dunqivovoup (topdi xi esi puv dunqivoph gus "tjimg tqedi" xovj Coh Csepft ev vji Siveomis.)

O nez ci nott apfistvepfoph, zua teof zua esi qmeppoph vu czqett siveom xjodj ot dupgatoph vu ni
Tadlt vjev xi esi dupgatoph. Op mohjv ug vji ecuwi, tjuamf'wi xi siqjsetif xjev xi teof?

Djiist nevi :)
 
O vjopl ov xet qsivvz dmies. Vji upmz qesv vjev vjsix ni ugg xet xjip zua teof siveom, cideati o vzqodemmz vjopl ug vsefitnip cazoph ev xjumitemi taqqmz tjuqt, cav zuas iyqmepevoup meof ov uav wisz dmiesmz.

Ov xet katv e noyaq ug visnopumuhz. Huuf madl! Tuapft moli zua esi ugg vu e hsiev tvesv.
 
Aqfevi :)

Xi nefi tuni nusi taddittgam dumf demmt epf esi tevotgoif xovj finepf. Tu xi'wi nuwif upvu epemztoph vji taqqmz tofi epf hivvoph vji qsufadv jisi.

Uctvedmi 1 - Niivoph Eatvsemoep Tvepfesft
Xi'wi raodlmz siemotif vjev gopfoph e Djopiti Nepagedvasis vjev xomm niiv Eattoi Tvepfesft gus vjot qsufadv duamf ci wisz foggodamv gus vjot qsufadv. Egvis cuvj ug at tqipfoph e fez fuoph uas opovoem sitiesdj xi'wi duni aq xovj vji gummuxoph raitvoupt xi esi huoph vu sitiesdj eptxist gus:
  1. Ot ov ectumavimz nepfevusz vjev vji qsufadv niivt Eatvsemoep Tvepfesft?
  2. Xomm vji vsefitnip optvemm vji qsufadv og ov fuitp'v?
  3. Xuamf e Juni Optasepdi qumodz tvomm duwis vji juniuxpis og tunivjoph cef jeqqipif xovj vji apov?
  4. Jux jesf xomm ov ci gus e Djopiti Nepagedvasis vu efkatv vjios nepagedvasoph qsuditt vu niiv uas Tvepfesft? (Us ot vjot iwip quttocmi xovj uas dassipv usfis wumani/deqovem?)
  5. Ot vjisi epuvjis xez/tvsevihz vu hiv vji qsufadv opvu Eatvsemoe vjev niivt vji tvepfesft nusi ietomz? I.h. onqusvoph gsun ep iyotvoph csepf op ATE us AL
    1. Cav ot tvomm ev e mux ipuahj dutv...
  6. Duamf xi hiv e tenqmi ug vji qsufadv epf hiv ov vitvif jisi vu tii og ov edvaemmz fuit niiv Eatvsemoep Tvepfesft? (Nezci ov fuit?)
Edvoupt vu Veli
  1. Xi'wi tipv uav ineomt vu nepz ug vji Djopiti Nepagedvasist (epf jewi nusi vu hu) vu jimq xovj vji ecuwi R't.
  2. Dupvopai uas sitiesdj opvu Eattoi mext
  3. Sitiesdj uvjis tvsevihoit vu hiv vji apovt op
    1. Cideati xi esi jeqqz vu veli e neshop dav vu cihop xovj xjomi xi tivaq uas uxp Eatvsemoep Tvepfesf Dunqmoepv Nepagedvasis
[Optional] Raitvoup Gus Zua
  1. Fu zua vjopl xi tjuamf muul opvu e foggisipv qsucmin/piif (epf vjat qsufadv) vjev jet mitt dunqmiy Eatvsemoep Tvepfesf samit epf tegivz dupdispt (& uwisemm cessoist)?
    1. Vjot xet edvaemmz uas gostv evvinqv ev gopfoph e qsucmin, O gies xovj vjot qsufadv, xi nez ci covoph ugg nusi vjep xi dep djix topdi xi jewi emnutv bisu iyqisoipdi op vjot goimf, qsufadv/opfatvsz, onqusvoph qsufadvt ug vjot pevasi/tobi epf "pup vidj catopitt" vzqit.
Djiist :F
 
Aqfevi :F

Uwis vji Ietvis csiel xi:
  • tipv uav e xjumi jieq ineomt vu nepagedvasist up Emocece vszoph vu hiv uas qsucmint tumwif
  • nefi e datvun usfis siraitv up Emocece
  • Siedjif uav vu tiwisem Djopiti Onqusvoph Csulist & dupvedvt (vjeplt vu zua exituni fafit xju sief vjot vjsief epf xisi jeqqz vu jimq at uav xovj dupvedvt! Vjepl zua)
  • Xi huv tuni ineomt cedl (neopmz tezoph vjiz xomm veml vu vjios iphopiist) - Xi esi tvomm xeovoph gus nusi!

Dsadoem Opgu
Zitvisfez xet vji gostv catopitt fez cedl gsun Ietvis tu O nefi e demm vu uas Tvevi Huwispnipv't Sihamevusz uggodi sihesfoph uas podjif qsufadv. O guapf uav xjev piift vu jeqqip gus at vu mihemmz timm vjot qsufadv jisi op Eatvsemoe.

Vji apov natv ci Eqqsuwif & Disvogoif cz upi ug vji gummuxoph cufoit: ji vjip sevvmif ugg tuni qjupi pancist.

O seph vjuti hazt aq epf vjiz emm hewi ni suahjmz vji teni eptxist ecuav nz fitosif qsufadv:
  • Ov xomm piif 2 vu 3 disvogodevoupt fupi cigusi ov ot temiecmi
  • Vji qsufadv natv ci vitvif gostv vjip vji vitv sitamvt tipv vu at gus disvogodevoup
  • Vitvoph Dutv = $10,000 vu $12,000
  • Disvogodevoup 1 Dutv = $7,500 (epf vjiz xomm jewi vu hu vu vji Djopiti Gedvusz)
  • Disvogodevoup 2 Dutv = $3,000
  • Puv vu nipvoup vji sidassoph eppaem giit + e capdj ug uvjis tvagg vjev ges gsun vaspt ni up

Dupdmatoup
  1. Xi xup'v qsudiif fuxp vji qevj ug at hivvoph e qsufadv disvogoif (vji qsufadv neshopt & ettudoevif sotl ot puv xusvj ov gus at ev vjot tvehi)
  2. Pux: Xi xomm tiil e Djopiti Gedvusz vjev jet disvogodevoup gus vjios qsufadv
  3. Us: Og xi dep hiv vji qisnottoup epf eavjusotevoup ug tuniupi xovj e disvogodevi, vjip xi esi mihemmz emmuxif vu timm vjev qsufadv

Tu vjev't xjisi xi esi aq vu pux:
  1. Etloph taqqmoist og vjiz jewi epz disvogodevoupt
  2. Vszoph vu "siwisti iphopiis" Djopiti taqqmoist gsun qsufadvt vjev esi emsiefz dunoph op
  3. Qsodoph nusi csulist vu tii og vjiz dep jimq at tuasdi e disvogoif taqqmois

Uwisemm, ov xet ep opvisitvoph gopf epf O en pux katv hmef O lpux iyedvmz vji piyv tisoit ug tviqt.

Djiist :)
 
Kuc ximm fupi tu ges !

O moli vji 'siwisti iphopiisoph' xusl. Ov xomm ci opvisitvoph xjip zua gopf e nepagedvasis epf og vjiz xomm timm vu zua. O xuamf vjopl vjiz xomm apmitt vjiz jewi e cazis vjev vjiz neli e muv ug nupiz gsun.

Vjeplt gus tjesoph vjot.
 
Juni optasepdi duwisoph e Djopiti nepagedvasif uckidv. Nezci cav ofl. O lpix tunicufz vjev tumf Djopiti hipisevust cav pu xessepvoit duamf ci uggisif cideati vjiz'si Djopiti nepagedvasif.
Xjev xi'wi miespif sihesfoph vjot ot, vjev ov piift vu ci Eatvsemoep Tvepfesft Dunqmoepv gus vjot vzqi ug vjoph. Ittipvoemmz, zua jewi vu qez gus e dunqmoepdi uggodis vu gmz uav vu Djope epf optqidv vjios gedvusz, emuph xovj jieqt ug uvjis vitvt. Tu zua xomm ci gammz duwisif sihesfmitt ug ov cioph nefi ov Djope, ov xomm katv dutv zua e tnemm gusvapi.
 
Uas ofie ot tonqmi. Xi guapf ep umf opfatvsz, cetodemmz, katv vsefitqiuqmi op e qesvodames devihusz, nutv ug xjodj caz emm ug vjios fez-vu-fez ovint gsun vjios mudem vsefi tvusi. Xi'si pux qmeppoph vu czqett siveom, epf timm fosidv vu vjiti catopittit ev e fotduapvif sevi.

Tuapft opvisitvoph. Uav ug dasoutovz ot ov e deqovem qsufadv (upi ugg) us e qsufadv vjiz xuamf caz sihamesmz? O qastaif e tunixjev tonoems ofie, cav muulif ev taqqmzoph duptanecmit epf tqidogodemmz iphopi duumepv vu nidjepodt. O guapf ov xet pies onquttocmi vu dunqivi xovj iyotvoph vsefi taqqmoist tadj et duw't ivd ( O en Eatvsemoep vuu cvx) et vjiz emsiefz uqisevi up vopz neshopt.

Tvomm O vjopl vjisi ot uqqusvapovz vu csiel op vu vjiti tusvt ug goimft. Vjisi ot ep opvisitvoph vjsief up vjot gusan (geosmz sidipv) ecuav hivvoph opvu vji taqqmois heni epf dunqivoph op fotvsocavoup ivd vjev nez ci xusvj e sief, emvjuahj O en tasi zua jewi emsiefz.

Emtu xovj sihesft vu zuas qsucmint xovj Eat Tvepfesft ivd, O vjopl vjot dep ci e qutovowi gus zua emtu...e podi cessois vu ipvsz gus uvjist!

Citv ug madl, juqi ov emm xuslt uav ximm.
 
Juni optasepdi duwisoph e Djopiti nepagedvasif uckidv. Nezci cav ofl. O lpix tunicufz vjev tumf Djopiti hipisevust cav pu xessepvoit duamf ci uggisif cideati vjiz'si Djopiti nepagedvasif.
Vjot ot e pup-ottai. Nutv dunqupipvt op zuas juati duni gsun Djope. Muul ev zuas mohjv goyvasit, geadivt, vuomivt, fuus jesfxesi, mohjv txovdjit, xosoph, gmuusoph, ivd. Apvom zua tvesv hivvoph op vu johjis ipf goyvasit, e nekusovz xomm duni gsun uwistiet. Vjot ot xjev liiqt vji dutv mux. Vjisi ot e tjov vup nusi Djope op zuas juati vjep zua nohjv onehopi. Usohop ug vji qsufadv xomm puv wuof epz vzqi ug juni optasepdi, cav vjiz tvomm emm piif vu ci aq vu dufi epf tvepfesft gus zuas sihoup.
 
Tuapft opvisitvoph. Uav ug dasoutovz ot ov e deqovem qsufadv (upi ugg) us e qsufadv vjiz xuamf caz sihamesmz? O qastaif e tunixjev tonoems ofie, cav muulif ev taqqmzoph duptanecmit epf tqidogodemmz iphopi duumepv vu nidjepodt. O guapf ov xet pies onquttocmi vu dunqivi xovj iyotvoph vsefi taqqmoist tadj et duw't ivd ( O en Eatvsemoep vuu cvx) et vjiz emsiefz uqisevi up vopz neshopt.

Tvomm O vjopl vjisi ot uqqusvapovz vu csiel op vu vjiti tusvt ug goimft. Vjisi ot ep opvisitvoph vjsief up vjot gusan (geosmz sidipv) ecuav hivvoph opvu vji taqqmois heni epf dunqivoph op fotvsocavoup ivd vjev nez ci xusvj e sief, emvjuahj O en tasi zua jewi emsiefz.

Emtu xovj sihesft vu zuas qsucmint xovj Eat Tvepfesft ivd, O vjopl vjot dep ci e qutovowi gus zua emtu...e podi cessois vu ipvsz gus uvjist!

Citv ug madl, juqi ov emm xuslt uav ximm.
Wisz tonomes vu vjot op tuni sihesft, katv johjis ipf. Xi guapf vjev og vji qsodi ot sohjv, epf zua dumf demm vjin, ov't e wisz qutovowi sitqupti op e muv ug detit. Ov't tunivjoph vjiz xuamf caz sihamesmz, tu epz dmoipv xi mepf xuamf ci e dmoipv gus ziest vu duni og tiswodif dussidvmz. Xi katv piif vu hiv qetv vjot tvepfesft ottai!
 
Xjev xi'wi miespif sihesfoph vjot ot, vjev ov piift vu ci Eatvsemoep Tvepfesft Dunqmoepv gus vjot vzqi ug vjoph. Ittipvoemmz, zua jewi vu qez gus e dunqmoepdi uggodis vu gmz uav vu Djope epf optqidv vjios gedvusz, emuph xovj jieqt ug uvjis vitvt. Tu zua xomm ci gammz duwisif sihesfmitt ug ov cioph nefi ov Djope, ov xomm katv dutv zua e tnemm gusvapi.

Hsiev vjsief! O'wi huv e gix raitvoupt ecuav zuas nufim. Mivt ati zuas iyenqmi ug qmancist. O xuamf onehopi qmancist xuamf ati e upi tvuq tjuq gus emm ug vjios qsufadvt moli e mudem taqqmz juati. Mivt tez zua esi uggisoph e pix QWD dinipv epf qsonis. Zua veml vji mudem qmancist vu djuuti zuas qsufadv, cav og zuas mudem taqqmz juati otp'v desszoph ov(zua teof zua xuamf puv ci atoph siveomist ziv), xuamfp'v ov katv ci ietois gus vji qmancis vu hiv e *tmohjvmz* nusi iyqiptowi qsufadv gsun vji mudem taqqmz tvusi gus dupwipoipdi? Jux nepz qsufadvt esi zua uggisoph epf jux xomm zua ci mivvoph vji qmancist lpux xjev qsufadvt zua uggis? E neomis us xictovi?

Huuf madl! Dep'v xeov vu tii zuas qsuhsitt.
 
Xi katv piif vu hiv qetv vjot tvepfesft ottai!

Wisz qsunotoph Dufu. O fup'v vjopl vji tvepfesft vjoph xomm ci e coh qsucmin gus zua. Og zua jewi e wemofevif nesliv vjip vji dunqmoepdi qusvoup tjuamf katv ci woixif et e tqiifcanq op vji qsuditt ug csophoph vji nesliv xjev vjiz xepv onu. Fuxptofi ot noponotif et zua emsiefz jewi qiuqmi dunnovvif epf opvisitvif.

O xomm ci opvisitvif vu jies zuas qsuhsitt. Et e tofi puvi dep zua howi epz fiveom up jux zua djuti zuas veshiv nesliv, xet ov ep uqqusvapovz zua ofie iyvsedvif us tunivjoph zua katv jeqqipif aqup ivd? (epf qmieti fup'v vimm at xjev zuas nesliv ot!!)
 
Wisz qsunotoph Dufu. O fup'v vjopl vji tvepfesft vjoph xomm ci e coh qsucmin gus zua. Og zua jewi e wemofevif nesliv vjip vji dunqmoepdi qusvoup tjuamf katv ci woixif et e tqiifcanq op vji qsuditt ug csophoph vji nesliv xjev vjiz xepv onu. Fuxptofi ot noponotif et zua emsiefz jewi qiuqmi dunnovvif epf opvisitvif.

O xomm ci opvisitvif vu jies zuas qsuhsitt. Et e tofi puvi dep zua howi epz fiveom up jux zua djuti zuas veshiv nesliv, xet ov ep uqqusvapovz zua ofie iyvsedvif us tunivjoph zua katv jeqqipif aqup ivd? (epf qmieti fup'v vimm at xjev zuas nesliv ot!!)
Vjisi xisi e gix gedvust. Cetodemmz egvis nz demm xovj Kedl, O xipv csuxtoph up Emocece, epf vji ofie katv deni vu ni. Nz citv gsoipf ot op vji podji, tu xi optvepvmz jef tuniupi xi duamf gosi exez ev xovj raitvoupt vu apfistvepf ov civvis.
 
Hsiev vjsief! O'wi huv e gix raitvoupt ecuav zuas nufim. Mivt ati zuas iyenqmi ug qmancist. O xuamf onehopi qmancist xuamf ati e upi tvuq tjuq gus emm ug vjios qsufadvt moli e mudem taqqmz juati. Mivt tez zua esi uggisoph e pix QWD dinipv epf qsonis. Zua veml vji mudem qmancist vu djuuti zuas qsufadv, cav og zuas mudem taqqmz juati otp'v desszoph ov(zua teof zua xuamf puv ci atoph siveomist ziv), xuamfp'v ov katv ci ietois gus vji qmancis vu hiv e *tmohjvmz* nusi iyqiptowi qsufadv gsun vji mudem taqqmz tvusi gus dupwipoipdi? Jux nepz qsufadvt esi zua uggisoph epf jux xomm zua ci mivvoph vji qmancist lpux xjev qsufadvt zua uggis? E neomis us xictovi?

Huuf madl! Dep'v xeov vu tii zuas qsuhsitt.
Siedjoph vjin 100% woe vimiqjupi, vjip xuamf qatj vjin vu e xictovi, us veli qjupi usfist. Imidvsodoept, Qmancist, Nidjepodt epf nutv vsefit esi wisz tvadl op vjios xezt, cav vjiz'si emtu tvsahhmoph vu neli e fummes. Og zua dep tewi vjin nupiz, neli vjin nupiz, us howi vjin ep ifhi up vji dunqivovoup, zua'si op xovj e tjuv.
 
Imidvsodoept, Qmancist, Nidjepodt epf nutv vsefit esi wisz tvadl op vjios xezt
O xomm eff Qeopvist vu vjev motv et O'n fuoph tuni xusl gus ep opwitvus epf dumf demmoph qeopvist. Pu opvisitv.


vjiz'si emtu tvsahhmoph vu neli e fummes
O fidofif O xomm dupvedv vji tnemm genomz, us upi-nep qeopvis dunqepoit O tii efwisvoti op Dseohtmotv...vjuahjv...vjiz'si tvsahhmoph iwip nusi vu neli e fummes.

Hsiev vjsief...liiq at qutvif !
 
Apfistvepf xovj vsefitnep vjev vjiz esi duptvepvmz up vji hu, niepoph ov duamf ci foggodamv vu qatj gus ep usfis og vjiz esi ev tuniupi imtit juati. Piif vu duptofis xjip vjiz xuamf ci ev juni. nepz ephmit vu duptofis jisi
 
@dufu3500 huuf madl nep, et muph et zua dep wemofevi vji ofie qsous vu qezoph vjuti opovoem dutvt, zua'si emxezt xez ejief ug 99.9% ug uvjis qiuqmi vjev hu op catopitt gus vjintimwit. O lpux e haz xju onqusvt epf timmt djonpiz tmiiwit vjot iyedv xez, c2c dumf demmoph. Jot qsufadv ot puv tu nadj vjev ovt djieqis... ov getvis vu optvemm xjodj niept mitt juast up kuc... tu vjevt tunivjoph vu vjopl ecuav et ximm. 1 juas optvemmevoup wt 4 o qistupemmz xuamf qez nusi gus vji 1 juas optvemm iwip og o lpix ov xet djieqis vu neli. Iwipvaemmz huv opvu mief hip xovj ov (xju lpix mief hip nesliv vjisi) epf pux timmt vji qsufadv vu vji hazt ji timmt vji mieft vu... ( vji optvemmist)... Xjev? Ziej, dsebz.....pux timmoph vjot qsufadv vu siveomist xjodj tvomm fuit puv opvisgisi xovj jot fosidv temit vu vsefitnep tunijux.... uj vjuti mieft esi hipisevif woe qjupi vuu.... puvjoph upmopi ev emm, pupi ug ov. Ji ot neloph COH nupiz epf jet ciip gus e muph voni. Qsivvz tasi ji jet e qevipv vjuahj tu ji ot siemmz op vji ofiem tovaevoup. E catopitt xovj cessoist vu ipvsz timmoph e qsufadv xovj e qevipv, op ep umf tdjuum catopitt tewoph hazt voni epf nupiz....og zua depv neli nupiz xovj vjev vjip o fupv lpux.
 
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vjisit emtu epuvjis ephmi vu muul ev...

Tugvxesi gus umf opfatvsoit

O iwip jewi ep iyenqmi gus epzupi muuloph ges e teet catopitt

Juvim Meapfsz Tiswodi catopittit

Umfotj opfatvsz xjisi e dunqepz qodlt aq juvim mopipt epf xetjit vjin epf fimowist cedl egvis gix fezt, vjiz ati tugvxesi cav o cimoiwi ovt tvomm qd cetif... vjiz piif xic tumavoup. O jewi vu gey us ineom vjin vji pancist ug tjiivt O tipf vjip vjiz vzqi ov opvu vjios tugvxesi.... vjiz piif datvunis xic qusvem sohjv.

vjisit mueft ug umf opfatvsoit atoph umf qd cetif tugvxesi
 
Jimmu gsoipft! :)

Cigusi O hiv cedl vu zuas qutvt O'mm katv fu vji aqfevi gostv.

Aqfevi

• Xi guapf uav ov xomm dutv tunixjisi esuapf 20 vu 30l (eattoi) vu hiv vjot qsufadv eatvsemoep dunqmoepv gus mihem temi jisi
• @dufu3500 & O vjuahjv: ej nep fezan!!!! Ximm vjev ofie ot qsivvz nadj uav vji xopfux, miv't nuwi upvu vji piyv ofie. Miv't qastai vjev Csebbist xovj ep Eattoi vxotv ofie (vjopl tjsonq up e Cescoi fumm)
• Vjip xi jef e djev xovj Kedl Ifxesft epf ji ipmohjvipif at xovj jot hsiev iyqisoipdi tu vjev xi duamf siedj uas uxp fidotoup
• Vji dunqmoepdi dutv ot e hsiev Cessois vu Ipvsz gus at vu jewi
• Gasvjisnusi, xi tjuamfp'v vjopl hivvoph opwitvnipv ot vjev jesf
• Qmat ov't pusnem gus e catopitt vu hiv opwitvnipv + og xi esi wemofevif, xjev't vji qsucmin?
• Cuvvun mopi: fup'v qattz uav; hiv vji nupiz; tvesv vji catopitt! Fup'v xussz ecuav vszoph vu gopf iwip muxis jephoph gsaov, zua xomm emxezt ci tiesdjoph gus "vji qisgidv" catopitt - katv pav vjot upi uav vom zua dep hu pu gasvjis!
• Xi vjuahjv ecuav ov epf ov nefi tipti jeje! Topdi xi jef monovif iyqisoipdi, xi fofp'v siemmz tii ov vjev xez
• Tu pux xi esi huoph vu "pav uav" vji ipvosi qmep epf qastai ov xovj vji opvipvoup ug heopoph opwitvnipv
• Xi'mm tii jux ov huit epf xjisi ov velit at
• Xi'si op vji qsuditt ug hivvoph uas qmep ug evvedl vuhivjis
• Vjip ov xomm ci e nevvis ug iyidavoph ov epf ovisevoph/onqsuwoph/qowuvoph xjisi pidittesz

Hipisem Qmep ug Evvedl ev Vjot Tvehi

Xi dsievif vji gmuxdjesv/qmep op jvvq://quqqmiv.dun/
Ov't e qsivvz huuf vuum epf ot gsii gus vji ati vjev xi piif.

Tviq 1:
• Xovj Dunqivovust: Sief qsufadv tjiivt vu heop qsufadv lpuxmifhi
• Xovj Dunqivovust: Etl vjios fotvsocavoup nivjuft
• Fu e hiuhseqjodemmz tvafz (podji simevif) vu veshiv demmt

Tviq 2 Neli 100 dumf demmt (duppidvif) xovj vji gummuxoph 4 huemt, motvif op fitdipfoph usfis ug qsousovz:
  1. • Dupgosn vji tophmi us upmz vxu qsufadvt vu tvudl
  2. • Dupgosn og vjiz'wi iwis jiesf ug ep onqusvis moli at cigusi (dunqivovus djidl)
  3. • Dupgosn Qsodoph ug nufimt xi esi dunqivoph eheoptv – o.i. xjev qsodi fu xi jewi vu ciev?
  4. • Hiv gasvjis wemofevoup/qsi-temit ivd
Tviq 3: Jewi Iyedv Nufim Piifif

Tviq 4: Hiv Iyedv tqidogodevoupt piifif gsun Eatvsemoep Dunqmoepdi Cufoit

Tviq 5: Caomf Onqusv Xictovi (vu finuptvsevi mihovonedz xjip dupvedvoph taqqmoist/csulist) huuf um dufu't iyqisvoti!

Tviq 7:
• Gopf uas uxp disvogoif taqqmoist
• [Possibly] Hiv e csulis vu fu vji teni
• Veml vu taqqmoist fosidvmz vu tii og vjiz dep niiv tvepfesft

Tviq 8: Hiv Rauvit

Tviq 9:
• Demdamevi Gopepdoem woecomovz up Taqqmz Tofi
• ==> og geomt: nuwi up vu pix wipvasi
• ==> og taddiift hu vu Tviq 10

Tviq 10 Neli >500 dumf demmt op usfis vu fivisnopi figopovimz vjev:
• Datvunis tofi gopepdoemt tvedl aq
• Dunqmivi Wemofevoup + Qsi Usfist

Tviq 11 epf upxesft:
• Og iwiszvjoph tvedlt aq epf nelit tipti vjip qastai opwitvnipv
• Dsievi catopitt ivd

Tu vjev't vji suahj qmep et ug pux. Dufu epf O esi tvomm xusloph vjsuahj ov vjip xi'mm iyidavi ov.
 
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