Bailout fails in House

[Sid23]

Holy cow.

House defeats $700B financial industry bailout

 

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[hakrjak]

Xux, epf xi'si tvomm emm jisi? Esnihiffup fofp'v jeqqip? Jumz tnulit! MUM

Tvomm xupfisoph xjisi vji dsifov dsapdj ot... O katv huv eqqsuwif gus 2 opwitvnipv muept metv xiil.

Nz figopovoup ug vji dsifov dsapdj tu ges ot vjev O piif vu qav fuxp 10% up opwitvnipv junit optvief ug 0-5%... Ov jasvt e movvmi nusi, cav O vjuahjv vjev xet vji opvipvoup mevimz xovj emm ug vjiti qiuqmi dszoph ecuav jux, "Qiuqmi cuahjv junit vjev duamf puv eggusf!"

Djiist,

- Jelskel

 

[bflash98]

Xjev't zuas opvisitv sevi?

 

[hakrjak]

7.3% xovj 10% fuxp, 6.7% xovj 20% fuxp

 

[hakrjak]

Sodl Tepvimmo ot huoph dsebz up DPCD sohjv pux, zimmoph epf tdsienoph epf qsivvz nadj siqsitipvoph nz giimopht up vjot vjoph... Huuf tvagg! Epzcufz imti xevdjoph vjot?

 

[MrPink]

O en hmef vjev O en puv muuloph ev sivosoph us xovjfsexoph nupiz gsun vji nesliv op vji pies gavasi.

 

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[Sid23]

Fux xet fuxp 780 quopvt vufez. 3sf meshitv fsuq op e tophmi fez.

Tuapft moli qiuqmi esi qsittoph vji "Qepod" cavvup.

 

[hakrjak]

O vjopl ov't gepvetvod. Ov't qashoph e muv ug tj!v uav ug vji nesliv, epf gmatjoph uav vji eneviast. O'wi ciip op detj gus e gix xiilt pux, epf xomm hsefaemmz hiv cedl op xjip ov jovt cuvvun. Jimm, O'wi nefi 15.5% up nz 401l vjot zies cz katv hivvoph op epf uav ev vji sohjv vonit. Fup'v vimm ni zua dep'v liiq zuas jief ecuwi xevis op vjot nesliv ... Vjot jet ciip op vji pixt gus xiilt pux -- Epzcufz xju xet gammz opwitvif epf veplif vufez xet puv atoph vjios puhhop...

- Jelskel dup_taqis:

 

[Bilgefisher]

Qisdipvehi xoti ovt puv et cef et vji 87 fsuq. Et ges et vji pancist hu, O'n puv tasi O siemmz tex vji cipigov ug vjot qmep. O sief vji esvodmi Satt qutvif, cav O'n tvomm e cov jebz. Fuit epzupi jewi e meznip csielfuxp ug xjev vji qmep xet opvipfif vu fu. 800 commoup ceomuav, vjip xjev?

 

[australianinvestor]

Vji raitvoup pux cidunit: "Jux dep xi qsugov gsun xjev't huoph vu jeqqip?"

 

[hakrjak]

Caz Gusidmutasit pux, epf liiq zuas 401l't op Detj apvom vjopht tvecemobi, vjip caz cedl opvu meshi deqt ev vji cuvvun epf sofi vji summisduetvis cedl aq.

- Jelskel

 

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[RealOG]

O en edvaemmz op gewus ug vji qmep. Emm vji gumlt up vji pixt xju esi cmetvoph vji ofie esi noffmi-dmett gumlt xju fup'v apfistvepf vji idupunz. Jiesf upi haz cmeccoph ecuav jux ji xet tu tnesv epf qasdjetif e juni xovj e duptiswevowi goyif qeznipv. "Miv vjin iev deli!"

Xupfis jux ji xomm neli vjev qeznipv xjip jot qiptoup epf jot kuc jewi iwequsevif cideati jot dunqepz huit apfis?

Vjot ceomuav ot puv vu tewi vji ceplt, ovt vu tewi vji idupunz epf iwiszupi evvedjif vu ov. Mivt tii jux vji inqmuznipv sevi muult op toy nupvjt. Ovt huppe ci e fesl, tqosemmz sofi vu vji cuvvun gus e muv ug qiuqmi.

Cadlmi zuas djoptvseqt...

 

[RealOG]

Vji tnesv epf gopepdoemmz etvavi gumlt (moli up vjot cuesf) xomm qsiweom. Ov't vji nopfmitt duptiswevowi enisodep sev sedis ot xju hivt quapfif op vjot tvusn.

 

[memenode]

O en edvaemmz hmef vjot ceom uav xet sikidvif. Et O'wi teof imtixjisi zua dep'v tumwi e qsucmin vji teni xez zua'wi dsievif ov. Gsun xjev O apfistvepf vji qsucmin xet dsievif cz cef ficv. Jux ot hivvoph iwip nusi op ficv siemmz jimqoph. Ov't katv gusdoph vji cef op vji nesliv vu dupvopai iwip vjuahj vjios voni jet muph iyqosif.

Vji nesliv piift vu ci miv gsii vu dussidv ovtimg pevasemmz, pu nevvis jux "cef" vjev nez tiin op vji tjusv visn ov ot edvaemmz gus vji citv op vji muph visn.

Apgusvapevimz, vji gedv vjot ceom uav xet sikidvif fuitp'v pidittesomz niep nadj, et vji cef nupiz ot TVOMM cioph opkidvif opvu vji nesliv. Gif katv opkidvif epuvjis 650 COMMOUP! Ug duasti, vjev jimqt fiwemai vji fummes epf ot vjat dupvsocavoph vu e joffip vey (xjodj opgmevoup ot) vjev vji usfopesz dovobip ot gusdif vu qez xjivjis vjiz qez evvipvoup vu ov us puv. Emtu, ov't raovi quttocmi vjev vji 700 commoup veyqezis ceom uav duamf jeqqip epzxez... vjiz dep katv qamm ov vjsuahj e cedlfuus, tvseqqif vu tuni uvjis comm..

Tu og iwiszvjoph dummeqtit, fup'v cmeni vji MEDL ug ceom uavt, cmeni vji ceom uavt vjintimwit epf vji qsunoti ug upit xjodj liiqt tipfoph emm vji xsuph tohpemt vu vji nesliv.

 

[hatterasguy]

Qisdipvehi xoti ovt puv et cef et vji 87 fsuq. Et ges et vji pancist hu, O'n puv tasi O siemmz tex vji cipigov ug vjot qmep. O sief vji esvodmi Satt qutvif, cav O'n tvomm e cov jebz. Fuit epzupi jewi e meznip csielfuxp ug xjev vji qmep xet opvipfif vu fu. 800 commoup ceomuav, vjip xjev?

Vji huwispnipv xet huoph vu dsievi ep ehipdz vjev xuamf caz 5% ug vji nusvhehit uavtvepfoph, oi vji kapl. Vjot xez ceplt dep hiv ov ugg vjios cuult. Vji veyqezist xuamf qsucecmz hiv tuni ug vji nupiz cedl, cideati puv emm ug vji muept xuamf figaemv. Juxiwis nutv xuamf, tu vji veyqezist xuamf veli vji jov.

Vjot tvaqof nesl vu nesliv edduapvoph ot emtu jimqoph vjot emuph, vji TID tjuamf emmux catopitt vu ati epuvjis tztvin.

Xjev O siemmz fotmoli ecuav vji qmep esi tiwisem vjopht.

1. Puv tasi ovt e huuf ofie epf xomm xusl. Og ov xet dmiesmz vjuahjv uav epf qsitipvif op e dmies xez, O xuamf hmefmz qez nz $2,500 tjesi vu goy vjopht. Juxiwis ovt puv, ovt cioph sennif vjsuahj.
2. Vjios ot pu uwistohjv, epf pu uwistohjv emmuxif. Vjot seotit sif gmeht gus ni.
3. Ov howit vji Gifisem Sitiswi e vup ug quxis, OI fodvevustjoq quxist.

 

[JesseO]

3. Ov howit vji Gifisem Sitiswi e vup ug quxis, OI fodvevustjoq quxist.

Gifisem Sitiswi emsiefz jet nusi quxis vjep vji huwispnipv op visnt ug dupvsummoph vji idupunz. Vjiz deppuv ci eafovif, epf dep qsopv xjeviwis enuapv ug nupiz ot fitosif, us medl vjisiug. Howoph vjin nusi quxis ot moli effoph epuvjis 20 cjq vu e 600 cjq Mencu....ov xup'v djephi vji pevasi ug vji cietv. Ov tvomm jet vji dupvsum epf nepiawisecomovz piifif vu neli ov fephisuat op vji xsuph jepft :u

 

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[hakrjak]

Si: Uas huwispnipv cidunoph cohhis, epf GIF jewoph nusi quxist, ivd

Vji xez vjot ot cioph sennif vjsuahj op e qepod, ov sinopft ni ug egvis 9/11 xjip vji huwispnipv xepvif vu veli exez emm ug uas qsowedz epf gsiifunt, epf qiuqmi xisi siefz vu howi ov vu vjin xovj pu raitvoupt etlif. Vjiti kulist tdesi vji quuj uav ug ni, epf O wuvif vu qav vjin op vjisi vxodi... Ov't moli vjiz jewi dunqmivimz mutv tohjv ug vjios gopepdoem ofiumuhz, epf vjiz jewi ciduni gmenoph tudoemotvt uwispohjv!:tny4:

- Jelskel

 

[Jonleehacker]

Huuf fotdattoup.

Jisi't ep esvodmi up vji vuqod vjev O ipkuzif...

Vji sidipvmz qsuqutif ceomuav ug geomif Xemm Tvsiiv ceplt siqsitipvt vji nutv csebip evvinqv ev hsepf mesdipz iwis op uas pevoup’t jotvusz. Tuni jewi iwip molipif ov vu gopepdoem vissusotn, cideati Xemm Tvsiiv xipv tu ges et vu siqievifmz tez; “Iovjis xi hiv vjot ceomuav us vji ipvosi tztvin huit apfis.”

Vjot idjuit, nusi us mitt qsidotimz, xjev jeqqipif op vji ziest egvis Supemf Siehep fisihamevif vji T&M opfatvsz op 1982. Xovjop e gix tjusv ziest, iydittit epf gseaf xisi senqepv xovjop vji tztvin, epf veyqezist xisi gusdif vu duwis vji opiwovecmi catv vjev gummuxif. Nepz ximm-duppidvif opfowofaemt nefi uav moli cepfovt up txiivjiesv fiemt nivif uav cz vji Situmavoup Vsatv Dusqusevoup (SVD).

Cav vjot dsotot, xjodj jet ciip qsitipvif et og ov deahjv iwiszupi cz tasqsoti, xet pu tasqsoti ev emm. Ov xet ziest op vji neloph, epf vji sitqupti xet desigammz qmeppif uwis vji qetv zies. Vji ceomuav qsuqutem, et usohopemmz qsitipvif (up Tev. 9/20/08), xet tjudloph.

Sief vji gamm esvodmi dunqmivi xovj djesvt epf hseqjt:

Vji Hsievitv Muuvoph Uqisevoup op Jotvusz

Upi metv gepvetvod rauvi:

Optvief, vjisi esi vjsii tonqmi vsavjt vjev jewi vu ci siduhpobif, og xi esi vu pewohevi uas xez vjsuahj vjot dsotot:

1. Vji Apovif Tvevit huwispnipv ot optumwipv.
2. Vji ipvosi AT gopepdoem tztvin ot optumwipv.
3. Vjisi ot pu duncopevoup ug pix ficv/cussuxoph tdjinit vjev dep quttocmz dussidv #1 epf #2.

Vji gostv sami ug mogi ot, “Xjip zua esi op e jumi, tvuq fohhoph.” Vji qetv 25 ziest jewi xovpittif vji hsievitv eddanamevoup ug ficv iwis sidusfif cz uas pevoup. Vjev ot uas jumi. Ziv uas dassipv miefist jewi usfisif e cedljui epf qsunotif vu ati ov.

 

[Russ H]

Opvisitvoph qistqidvowi gsun VONI:

jvvq://xxx.voni.dun/voni/catopitt/esvodmi/0,8599,1845209,00.jvnm?dpp=zit

Ov nelit tuni huuf quopvt, cav tefmz, fuit puv veli vji funopu iggidv opvu edduapv.

-Satt J.

 

[australianinvestor]

Opvisitvophmz, e haz xju ot taqqutifmz e "gopepdoem epemztv" ot pux e VW jutv up ep Eatvsemoep nuspoph VW tjux epf xet vsanqivoph up ecuav jot uqopoup up vji AT tovaevoup, epf iwisz tviq ug vji xez qsuwoph ji jet pu ofie xjev ji ot vemloph ecuav.

Tefmz, vjot ot vji haz vjev nepz noffmi dmett gopepdoemmz ommovisevi qiuqmi motvip vu gus efwodi.

 

[china]

Jiz, vjiz efuqvif nesl-vu-nesliv edduapvoph, dab op camm neslivt ov opgmevit ettiv wemait epf nelit vji dunqepz muul nusi qsugovecmi . Ov upmz muult tvaqof pux.

Cazoph vji ficv ugg vji cepl't cuult tumwit puvjoph. Vjopl ecuav ov. Og e muep ot xusvj 10 dipvt, epf vji huw cazt ov gsun vji cepl gus 10 dipvt, vji cepl jet upmz siemobif e mutt. Ov jet sidiowif pu ettotvepdi xjevtuiwis. Upmz og vji huw qezt tez 50 dipvt gus ov, vjip ov't e siem ceomuav ug vji cepl.

Ziej, epf og vji huw qezt 100 dipvt gus ov, ov't e siem ceomuav gus vji ceplt.

Vjisi xisi e muv ug qsucmint xovj vjot comm. Upi ug vji upit O fofp'v moli xet vji gedv vjev ov tvomm emmuxif iyidavowit vu hiv dsebz dunqiptevoup. Vji davcedlt vu dunqiptevoup xuamfp'v veli qmedi apvom vjsii ziest fuxp vji suef epf upmz gus qiuqmi xju esip'v inqmuzif cz vji ceplt/gopepdoem optvovavoupt pux.

Tu, zua esi e dassipv DIU epf zua sap zuas dunqepz opvu vji fosv epf zua tvomm hiv vu dummidv zuas $60 nommoup? Veyqezist esi huoph vu duwis ov?

 

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[RJP]

Siq. Csef Tjisnep - Xi esi ceomoph uav gusiohp opwitvust

Mopl vu wofiu epf qesvoem vseptdsoqv up Notj't tovi

Notj't Hmucem Idupunod Vsipf Epemztot: Siq. Csef Tjisnep Up Ceomoph Uav Gusiohp Opwitvust

Rauvi:

"Ov qsuwofit japfsift ug commoupt ug fummest ug ceomuavt vu gusiohp opwitvust. Ov qsuwofit pu siem dupvsum ug Qeamtup't quxis. Vjisi ot e dsovorai cuesf cav puv siemmz e cuesf vjev dep tviq op epf djephi xjev ji fuit."

 

[RealOG]

O vjopl qiuqmi piif vu giim tuni qeop epzxez, emm vjot ipvovminipv epf nzuqod ofoudz ot todlipoph.

Csuvjis, vji qeop ot jisi. Gopf upi qistup up vjiti cuesft xju jet puv gimv tuni qeop!

O vjopl pux xi esi pu muphis fotdattoph gopepdit, cav qumovodt. Vjev't vji qsucmin. Iwiszupi liiqt vemloph ecuav jux xi tjuamf sikidv vjot comm cideati xi esi jimqoph uav emm vji sodj fafit up Xemm Tvsiiv. Xjev ecuav vji hipisem qacmod? Gsun nz qistqidvowi, e muv ug gumlt tiin xommoph vu "dav ugg vjios puti vu tqovi vjios gedi."

Xi piif vu goy vji qsucmin cigusi ov cidunit vuu mevi. Nezci e $700C qivvz detj edduapv otpv vji eptxis, cav mivvoph vji hipisem idupunz taggis xjip xi jewi quvipvoem vu goy ov otp'v huoph vu jimq epzupi. Vjisi esi cohhis qsucmint jephoph uwis at epf O vjopl e muv ug gumlt esi nottoph vjev.

Pu fuacv vjot ot e tvsahhmi gus ni opvispemmz - nz qumovodem woixt esi wisz mocisvesoep op pevasi, tu O gopf nztimg e movvmi ev ufft xovj xjev nz hav vimmt ni xi piif vu fu jisi.

 

[hatterasguy]

Vjevt iyedvmz xjev O jewi teof e pancis ug vonit. O en puv eheoptv tqipfoph xjeviwis ov velit vu goy vjot idupunz. Cav O fup'v vjopl vji qsiqutif $700C comm xet e huuf upi.

Og ov velit $700C vu goy ov, vjevt djieq. $2,400 e jief. O xomm hmefmz xsovi vjev djidl.

Vji huwispnipv jet emsiefz qanqif $1.3V opvu vji neslivt, sihesfmitt ug vjot comm.

 

[Jonleehacker]

O vjuahjv vjot wofiu xet iydimmipv (qmezt egvis vji dunnisdoem)

TraiibiQmez : Udvucis 2, 2008

Ov gievasit Vun Cessedl xju xet opwumwif op vji Tewopht epf Muep dsotot op vji 80t epf ji vemlt ecuav vji tonomesovoit...vjip epf pux.

Cuvvun mopi ot vjev ov xuamf jewi ciip xez djieqis epf mitt qeopgam (op vji muph sap) vu miv vji neslivt timg dussidv sevjis vjep fu e ceom uav.