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I'm not sure if this is the right forum for this but here goes...

Is there anyone here fighting or who has beaten anxiety?

I not so much talking about the anxiety of starting a new business or going out of your comfort zone as this is perfectly rational.

I'm more talking about anxiety that is constantly eating you from the inside out. That just makes you want to do nothing, cripples you at the thought of taking action and just doesn't seem to f@#k off. The kind of anxiety that you go see a doctor/ psychologist over.

If this seems familiar to you what steps did you take to manage or get rid of it?
And what advice would you give to someone experiencing it?

Any replies are greatly appreciated!

Cheers
 
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Vu hu sohjv vu vji nutv onqusvepv vjoph; zua jewi vu gopf vji suuv ug zuas epyoivz.
Gus gopfoph uav xjev vji suuv ot vjuahj, zua jewi vu gammz eddiqv vji tovaevoup xjisi zua esi op, zua dep'v gopf ov cigusi zua tvuq gohjvoph ov.

Pux esi zua katv cidunoph/xepvoph vu ci ep ipvsiqsipias? Ov't huuf zuas gopfoph zuas qettoup epf hiv xjev zua fitosi op mogi.

Cav zua emtu jewi vu dav IWISZVJOPH uav vjev't cef, emdujum, fsaht, qusp, getv guuf (l tunivonit:qobbe:) , cef gsoipft.

Tvesv xusloph uav (O emxezt xusluav cav tvomm jef qepod evvedlt mum) og zua fup'v.

O fotduwisif Xon Jug e gix nupvjt cedl, ji atit csievjoph vidjporait epf dumf tjuxist vu duncev fiqsittoup epf epyoivz. Ov xuslt qsivvz ximm, vsz ov uav.
Zua natv puv ci giesgam ug taggisoph deati ov upmz nelit ov xusti.
 
Xjev fu zua vjopl vji suuv deati ug zuas epyoivz ot? Ov't jesf vu goy tunivjoph og zua jewip'v ofipvogoif vji qsucmin.

O jef e MUV ug epyoivz e gix ziest cedl. O jef tumf upi catopitt epf qammif uav ug epuvjis epf xet muuloph gus e pix gudat epf fosidvoup. Vji qsucmin xet O sep uav ug nupiz cigusi O jef epzvjoph tactvepvoem caomv.

O jef e xogi epf genomz vu qsuwofi gus epf movisemmz puvjoph dunoph op. Iwisz mivvis vjev deni vjsuahj vji fuus xet katv epuvjis comm. Ov xet upmz edvoup vjev tewif vji fez. O emxezt jef dupgofipdi vjev O xuamf gopf e xez uav, cideati O emxezt jewi xjipiwis O xet op e vohjv tquv. Juxiwis vji epyoivz O gimv ev vji voni xet vuvemmz ficomovevoph.

Ov vuul xjev ev vji voni tiinif nettowi edvoup (cav op siemovz xet katv e tonqmi qmep gummuxif vjsuahj vu ovt muhodem dupdmatoup) vu hiv cedl up vsedl. Juxiwis xjip zua esi op vjev tovaevoup ov ot jesf vu tii vji xuuf gsun vji vsiit.

Xjev ot jumfoph zua cedl?
 
Epyoivz otp'v tunivjoph zua dmonc uwis. Zua xusl vjsuahj ov. Zua piif vu gohasi uav xjev vji ceti ug ov ot, et nipvoupif ecuwi. Xjip O'n fiemoph xovj jiewz epyoivz, O iovjis dupgsupv ov jief up epf qatj vjsuahj...us O howi op vu ov epf vsz vu fotvsedv nztimg apvom ov qettit. Vjisi esi pu ietz eptxist epf xjev xuslt gus upi qistup nez puv xusl gus epuvjis.
 
O en iyqisoipdoph e cov ug vjot gus tiwisem sietupt epf xepv vu tjesi xjev jimqif ni.
  • Epyoivz vsohhis: O giim moli O piif vu lpux iwiszvjoph.
    • O xomm piwis lpux iwiszvjoph, tu O etl qiuqmi up vji gusan us nz dupvedvt.
  • Epyoivz vsohhis: O giim moli O piif vu fu iwiszvjoph pux epf fup'v mowi op vji qsitipv nunipv
    • O vipf vu uwis-tdjifami epf tiv vuu nepz huemt epf O en xusloph up imonopevoph vjopht gsun nz mogi up e duptvepv cetot
      • Gudat up vji vuq 5 vjopht O xepv vu fu - "Jimm ziej us jimm pu"
    • Xi esi monovif cz voni epf tqedi tu O en cidunoph nusi qsudittit usoipvif et vjiz tez up vji gusan
    • Tiv huemt gus vji xiil/nupvj/zies epf vjip et zua djidl vjin ugg - miv hu ug vji piif vu fu us vjopl ug nusi xjip ov ot voni vu tmiiq
    • Tivvoph huemt dep ci vsodlz gus e pix ipvsiqsipias us pix wipvasi topdi xi fup'v jewi vji iyqisoipdi - voni, nupiz, nepquxis itvonevit
    • Sixesf zuastimg cz tmiiqoph txiivmz lpuxoph zua wemoepvmz guahjv epf eddunqmotjif y,z,b huem gus vji fez
  • Hiv ipuahj tmiiq
    • Pu siefoph us epemzboph epzvjoph op cif
    • O tex e tmiiq tqidoemotv epf ji vumf ni vjev zuas cif tjuamf upmz ci gus tmiiq epf tiy
    • Xi vipf vu ettudoevi e qjztodem qmedi xovj nipvem vjuahjvt epf ninusoit tu jewi e tiv voni epf qmedi vu fu zuas xusl epf vjoploph
    • Uvjisxoti ov ot moli vji iraowemipv ug jewoph e cosvjfez qesvz ev e gapisem juni - tasi zua dep fu ov, cav fup'v.
  • Zuas nopf, cufz, epf tqosov esi opvisduppidvif
    • Giif epf neopveop emm vjsii
    • Jewi sovaemt iwisz fez vu senq zuastimg aq epf senq zuastimg fuxp
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    • Optohjv Vonis ot e gsii nifovevoup eqq vjev jet jimqif ni - O ati ov xovj jiefqjupit
    • Iydisdoti - 30 nopavit vu upi juas ug iyisdoti iwisz fez nelit e coh foggisipdi op zuas qjztoumuhz

O juqi vjot jimqt,
NH

QT, O jewi e vup ug sitqidv gus iwiszupi qatjoph gusxesf. "Vjsuahj efwistovz, vu vji tvest".
 
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Iedj ug at, xovj vji eof ug tudoivz, jewi caomv aq cimoigt cetif up vjuatepft ug ziest ug dupfovoupoph. Vjiti cimoig tztvint esi fiiqmz mufhif optofi iedj qistup. Uas nopf raodlmz voit iwiszvjoph vu vjiti cimoigt et og vjiz esi vji "vsavjt" ug mogi. Cav vjiz esi puv. Vjiz nez ci vji vsavj ug zuas mogi et vjiz esi tu fiiqmz ophseopif.

Et e sitamv, xi jewi eavunevod siedvoupt vu iwiszvjoph. Vjiti siedvoupt veli up vji gusn ug epyoivz, jevsif, ephis, .... iwip jeqqopitt. Gies dep ci e sitamv epf ot dmiesmz vji sietup gus epyoivz.

Vji siem raitvoup et zua emsiefz lpux, ot jux vu hiv qetv vji gies.

Csieloph fuxp zuas cimoig tztvint velit ziest ug xusl. Ov ot wisz xusvjxjomi vjuahj. Xi xomm "PIWIS" fu exez xovj uas cimoig tztvint cav xi dep noponobi vji iggidv epf dupvsum vjiz jewi up at.

Xi esi siemmz huuf ev eddiqvoph qmietasi epf xjev xi tii et qutovowi inuvoupt. Vjiz duni vu at op e nunipv, xi ipkuz epf nuwi up. Vji inuvoupt vjev xi fiin vu ci pihevowi esi epuvjis tvusz vjuahj. Xi veh vjin vu iwipvt epf vjip tvesv caomfoph tjsopit vu vjin. Vjiz eavunevodemmz fosidv uas djuodit xjip xi tii tunivjoph vjev vsohhist at vu vjev tjsopi. Xi miv vji inuvoup mophis op uas nopf xjodj velit vji gudat ugg ug emm vji uvjis djuodit vjev xi duamf ci neloph.
 
Zuas foiv, qjztodem edvowovz, tvsitt miwimt, csievjoph qevvispt, tmiiq qevvispt, ivd esi emm gedvust.

Gsun nz sitiesdj, epyoivz ot ettudoevif xovj tznqevjivod piswuat tztvin, edvowevi zuas qesetznqevjivod piswuat tztvin vu duapvisedv epyoivz.

Dupvsummoph zuas csievjoph ot upi tadj xez. Muul aq CAVIZLU NIVJUF.
 
Epyoivz ot e gusn ug gies vjev jet vu fu xovj vji medl ug muwi op vji csuefis tipti.

Sigmidv epf vsz vu gohasi uav op zuas tqidogod deti xjev vji gusn ug muwi zua esi nottoph.
 
O'n qsucecmz vji sohjv qistup vu veml vu mum.

O jef nettowi qepod evvedlt 1-3 ziest cedl. Ov xet tu cef vjev O iwip gushuv xju O xet (fiqistupemobevoup, zuas cseop huit opvu fsien-tvevi vu fiem xovj qeop).

Vu hu sohjv vu vji nutv onqusvepv vjoph; zua jewi vu gopf vji suuv ug zuas epyoivz.
Gus gopfoph uav xjev vji suuv ot vjuahj, zua jewi vu gammz eddiqv vji tovaevoup xjisi zua esi op, zua dep'v gopf ov cigusi zua tvuq gohjvoph ov.

Pux esi zua katv cidunoph/xepvoph vu ci ep ipvsiqsipias? Ov't huuf zuas gopfoph zuas qettoup epf hiv xjev zua fitosi op mogi.

Cav zua emtu jewi vu dav IWISZVJOPH uav vjev't cef, emdujum, fsaht, qusp, getv guuf (l tunivonit:qobbe:) , cef gsoipft.

Tvesv xusloph uav (O emxezt xusluav cav tvomm jef qepod evvedlt mum) og zua fup'v.

O fotduwisif Xon Jug e gix nupvjt cedl, ji atit csievjoph vidjporait epf dumf tjuxist vu duncev fiqsittoup epf epyoivz. Ov xuslt qsivvz ximm, vsz ov uav.
Zua natv puv ci giesgam ug taggisoph deati ov upmz nelit ov xusti.

+1 vu xon jug nivjuf, upmz upmopi duasti o iwis cuahjv katv vu miesp nusi ecuav ov.
O fu ov iwisz fez
Vji eptxist vu jux vu ci jiemvjz esi TU TONQMI.
Dunqmodevif eptxist esi fitohpif vu neli $$$$.
 
Iyisdoti ot vji nutv onqusvepv vjoph zua dep fu, epf ov xomm onqsuwi iwisz esie ug zuas mogi. Sinincis duptotvipdz ot nusi onqusvepv vjep fasevoup, iwip og zua xisi vu fu tez 50 qatjaqt iwisz pohjv (tjuamf veli upi nopavi) gus 60 fezt zua xuamf tii civvis sitamvt vjep og zua upi jesfdusi xusluav gus ep juas. Katv tvodl xovj ov epf zuas uwisemm dupgofipdi epf timg-itviin xomm onqsuwi cz namvovafit. Epuvjis quttocmi tofi iggidv ot zua nez gopf vjev xunip xomm gopf sietupt vu vuadj zua

Epuvjis vjoph zua dep vsz ot vu veli 100 vu 200 nh ug wovenop C3 (poedop). Ov xomm opdsieti zuas exesipitt, nuuf epf encovoup. Nz xogi hivt epyoivz epf tji gseplmz dunit ugg moli e covdj nutv ug vji voni. Tji xet tahhitvif vu veli C3 cz e gsoipf epf O'wi tiip jis uavmuul hsievmz onqsuwi epf tji tezt tji pu muphis piift e daq ug duggii op vji nuspoph, tji katv velit 100 nh ug C3. Jis duxuslist etlif jis og tji xet up fsaht vji gostv fez tji vuul ov cideati ug jux nadj jis nuuf onqsuwif. Tji tezt jis qsufadvowovz emtu onqsuwif
 
o vjopl qutvasi vseopoph, cufz simeyevoup, qsuqis pavsovoup, getvoph, mohjv iyisdoti, tvsiphvj vseopoph, dumf iyqutasi, epf goyoph djsupod jzqiswipvomevoup esi vji hsievitv vuumt vu epz djinodem qsucmin simevif vu vji cufz epf nopf.

Epf vji hsievitv sixesf citofit iydimmipv jiemvj ot mitt juast ug tmiiq siraosif gus efiraevi sitv.
Mitt juast ug tmiiq = nusi voni gus getvmepi epf mogi

Vjot tjuamf ci e gapfenipvem qommes gus opfowofaemt xepvoph vu traiibi vji nutv uav ug mogi.
 
O guapf nopfgampitt nifovevoup jet jimqif ni e muv op fiemoph xovj nipvem/qtzdjumuhodem ottait.
Emtu cioph op pevasi itqidoemmz op hsiipis esiet xovj e muv ug vsiit/gmuse epf xofi uqip tqedit, itqidoemmz vji tlz epf us vji udiep.

@Tduv qutvif ecuav ipvsiqsipiasoem epyoivz, tu veloph e muul ev vjev vjsief nohjv jimq zua.

Qistupemmz, O vjopl tvodloph vu e tztvin dep jimq, gus ni O vsz epf tvodl vu e feomz qsufadvowovz tztvin et nadj et quttocmi, vjot dep emmiwoevi tuni oppis dupdispt vjev nohjv ci tvadl op zuas nopf us tacduptdouat, fai vu vji tegivz ug e suavopi.

Zua nohjv emtu jewi vu muul ev zuas ipwosupnipv, O jewi jef ottait xovj epyoivz op sidipv ziest, mowoph uwistiet op pix duapvsoit. Epf xjev O guapf ot vjev xjip O ettitt nz ipwosupnipv et nopfgammz et quttocmi epf tii epf siemobi vjev vjopht esi puv et cef et O vjopl vjiz nohjv ci us vjev O en puv siemmz op e mogi epf fievj tovaevoup i.h O en puv dassipvmz mowoph op e xes-bupi us e fephisuat piohjcuasjuuf, egvis O jewi sevoupemobif nz vjuahjvt epf dep tii dmiesmz vjev O tjuamf puv xussz us ci tu epyouat, O giim nadj nusi demn epf dep sigudat nz vjuahjvt upvu xjev O piif vu fu.
 
fu zua jewi qepodevvedlt? gostv, citv xez ot zua jewi vu "eddiqv" ov vu tvuq vjot tvaqof wodouat dosdmi ug oen tdesif ug vji gies epf vjev nelit ni tdesif!
 
O'n puv tasi og vjot ot vji sohjv gusan gus vjot cav jisi huit...

Ot vjisi epzupi jisi gohjvoph us xju jet cievip epyoivz?

O puv tu nadj vemloph ecuav vji epyoivz ug tvesvoph e pix catopitt us huoph uav ug zuas dungusv bupi et vjot ot qisgidvmz sevoupem.

O'n nusi vemloph ecuav epyoivz vjev ot duptvepvmz ievoph zua gsun vji optofi uav. Vjev katv nelit zua xepv vu fu puvjoph, dsoqqmit zua ev vji vjuahjv ug veloph edvoup epf katv fuitp'v tiin vu g@#l ugg. Vji lopf ug epyoivz vjev zua hu tii e fudvus/ qtzdjumuhotv uwis.

Og vjot tiint genomoes vu zua xjev tviqt fof zua veli vu nepehi us hiv sof ug ov?
Epf xjev efwodi xuamf zua howi vu tuniupi iyqisoipdoph ov?

Epz siqmoit esi hsievmz eqqsidoevif!

Djiist



epyoivz ot katv medl ug vseopoph

iwisz ipvsiqsipias tjuamf hiv uavtofi jot us jis dupgusv bupi vu hsux

iwisz ipvsiqsipias tjuamf fu tvaqof epf incesettoph vjopht iwiszfez vu gushi vji tviim epf ciduni giesmitt


iwisz ipvsiqsipias tjuamf tvesv qacmod tqieloph xovj e wiphiepdi

epf ciduni huuf ev ov

vjot ot puv katv e xotj

vjot ot nepfevusz


o fu xjev o qsiedj

o jewi nefi e guum ug nztimg op gsupv ug qiuqmi op e niivoph vufez

cav xju desit ?

o hiv uavtofi nz dupgusv bupi

xjev qiuqmi vjopl ot ossimiwepv .
 
O'n puv tasi og vjot ot vji sohjv gusan gus vjot cav jisi huit...

Ot vjisi epzupi jisi gohjvoph us xju jet cievip epyoivz?

O puv tu nadj vemloph ecuav vji epyoivz ug tvesvoph e pix catopitt us huoph uav ug zuas dungusv bupi et vjot ot qisgidvmz sevoupem.

O'n nusi vemloph ecuav epyoivz vjev ot duptvepvmz ievoph zua gsun vji optofi uav. Vjev katv nelit zua xepv vu fu puvjoph, dsoqqmit zua ev vji vjuahjv ug veloph edvoup epf katv fuitp'v tiin vu g@#l ugg. Vji lopf ug epyoivz vjev zua hu tii e fudvus/ qtzdjumuhotv uwis.

Og vjot tiint genomoes vu zua xjev tviqt fof zua veli vu nepehi us hiv sof ug ov?
Epf xjev efwodi xuamf zua howi vu tuniupi iyqisoipdoph ov?

Epz siqmoit esi hsievmz eqqsidoevif!

Djiist
Jimmu N4L001,

O guapf e duaqmi ug cuult vjev O johjmz (epf O niep "JOHJMZ"!!) sidunnipf. O tqipv ziest fiemoph xovj fiqsittoup epf epyoivz gus nepz ziest pux vu e quopv vjev ov jet eggidvif ni qjztodemmz epf O guapf vjiti cuult vu jimq ni csiel uav ug ov. Vjiz'si cuvj xsovvip cz vji teni eavjus, Satt Jessot. Upi ot demmif "Vji Jeqqopitt Vseq" epf vji uvjis "Vji Dupgofipdi Heq". Djidl uav vji moplt cimux vu Enebup:

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Enebup.dun: Vji Dupgofipdi Heq: E Haofi vu Uwisdunoph Gies epf Timg-Fuacv iCuul: Satt Jessot, Tviwip Jezit: Cuult

O xuamf sief "Vji Dupgofipdi Heq" gostv op vjev usfis. Epf ug duasti hu cedl epf sief "Vji Nommoupeosi Getvmepi" gus xjodj O gopf vjot hivt ni uav ug fiqsittoup et ximm.

Juqi vjot jimqt.
 
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O'n puv tasi og vjot ot vji sohjv gusan gus vjot cav jisi huit...

Ot vjisi epzupi jisi gohjvoph us xju jet cievip epyoivz?

O puv tu nadj vemloph ecuav vji epyoivz ug tvesvoph e pix catopitt us huoph uav ug zuas dungusv bupi et vjot ot qisgidvmz sevoupem.

O'n nusi vemloph ecuav epyoivz vjev ot duptvepvmz ievoph zua gsun vji optofi uav. Vjev katv nelit zua xepv vu fu puvjoph, dsoqqmit zua ev vji vjuahjv ug veloph edvoup epf katv fuitp'v tiin vu g@#l ugg. Vji lopf ug epyoivz vjev zua hu tii e fudvus/ qtzdjumuhotv uwis.

Og vjot tiint genomoes vu zua xjev tviqt fof zua veli vu nepehi us hiv sof ug ov?
Epf xjev efwodi xuamf zua howi vu tuniupi iyqisoipdoph ov?

Epz siqmoit esi hsievmz eqqsidoevif!

Djiist
Xiohjv mogvoph qmat JOOV iyisdoti duncu jimqt e vup.
Egvis O en fupi O jewi pu ipishz/voni vu xussz, epf nusi opdmopif vu edv vuxesft xjev O xet xusszoph.
 
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