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So almost every day I click onto the FL Forum, there is usually a new post saying, I have read Chad Mureta's book and I read so and so's thread about apps, and now I am going to get rich off of iPhone apps. And I keep asking myself WHY?

People have suddenly began to think that if you can throw a couple grand at a developer and get an app made, you will soon enough be sipping pina coladas on some foreign beach surrounded by gorgeousness babes, easy as 1,2,3. Let me tell you RIGHT NOW, ITS NOT!!!!! Sure there are some people like Chad Mureta and Allen Wong who have made hundreds of thousands and even millions of dollars off of apps, but how many members on here are app store success stories? How many people on this forum are driving Lambos around because they made an iPhone or android app, sure there are people who make millions off of a mobile application like Chad and Allen, there are also people who make millions of dollars a year playing professional baseball, do you know how easy it is to get to that level of baseball, it's near impossible even if you are the most absolutely athletically gifted kid in your town, their is always someone better! Besides, you know where Chad Mureta is making the REAL CASH? He's making it selling his book, he has probably made more off of his book than all of his apps combined, it is the classic guru pitch! Also, do you know how many apps actually even BREAK EVEN? Before you take 3 months of your time or throw away a couple thousand dollars, read this: iOS app success is a “lottery”: 60% (or more) of developers don’t break even | Ars Technica

Also ask yourself if you are meeting the CENTS requirements in your app, does the world REALLY need another iPhone game? Are their people lined up waiting to buy your game because it will help them somehow? Don't even get me started on entry, every bob, bill, and buck are making iPhone apps, you don't need any coding knowledge all you kneed is a couple spare grand and a wonderful imagination of wealth and riches. Are you in control of your app, can you spend your money on a stupid little iPhone game and then the big boy apple says "nope, we don't want this game in our market", you bet they can. S and T work but if you justify 2 out of the 5 CENTS elements as making a viable business then you need to read the book again!

So, please I beg you, before you waste your time and money, look long and hard at the opportunity before you decide to make an app, the time where making an app has a great possibility of making you rich is OVER, now, it is just like any other industry, except highly competitive and over saturated. Just because some of the members on here (myself included) are currently making an app, does not mean that YOU should to, it is NOT easy, there is a HIGH probability of failure. Really, if you are so uncreative that you just want to piggy back off of other fastlaners ideas, then you are not a true entrepreneur, you WILL have a better chance of making money doing something original and innovative that SERVES A NEED than going "oh, well thing 1 and thing 2 are making apps, so I might as well too".

Think about this post, also, I will answer any questions or angry comments you may have about this but this post and it is simply the rambled truth that I have been constantly thinking while seeing a new "I'm making an app" thread every f*cking day!

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Siemmz, og zua esi tu apdsievowi vjev zua katv xepv vu qohhz cedl ugg ug uvjis getvmepist ofiet, vjip zua esi puv e vsai ipvsiqsipias

O ehsii xovj iwiszvjoph cav vjot. Ipvsiqsipiastjoq ot puv ecuav ofiet, ovt ecuav gommoph e piif (moli zua teof zuatimg ;)). Emnutv iwiszvjoph jet ciip fupi cigusi cz uvjist, xjodj fuitp'v niep vjev ov otp'v e hsiev getvmepi uqqusvapovz gus tunicufz imti, cideati ov qsuwofit siem wemai.
 
O civ eqq qsuhsennist neli nusi nupiz vjep vji ewisehi eqq temitnep.

O ehsii xovj emm ug vji ecuwi, iydiqv gus vjot qesv:


Siemmz, og zua esi tu apdsievowi vjev zua katv xepv vu qohhz cedl ugg ug uvjis getvmepist ofiet, vjip zua esi puv e vsai ipvsiqsipias, zua XOMM jewi e civvis djepdi ug neloph nupiz fuoph tunivjoph usohopem epf oppuwevowi vjev TISWIT E PIIF vjep huoph "uj, ximm vjoph 1 epf vjoph 2 esi neloph eqqt, tu O nohjv et ximm vuu".

O'n duqzoph NK't mief hipisevoup ofie, djephoph ov aq e cov vu gov nz opfatvsz epf eqqmzoph ov vu e 2012 Opvispiv mepftdeqi. Ov't xusloph tu ges epf O qsifodv vjev ov't huoph vu dupvopai hsuxoph et nz pivxusl epf nz opgmaipdi hsuxt. Xjz tjuamf O vsz vu dsievi tunivjoph csepf tqeplop pix og O dep katv fu xjev xuslt?

Qohhzcedloph ugg ug ofiet ot vji citv xez vu gomm e piif. Og vji qistup dassipvmz fuoph ov otp'v fuoph ov SOHJV, vjip zua jewi vu fu ov civvis.
 
O vjopl vjev eqqt xjodj jewi e avomovz gapdvoup jewi quvipvoem. O jef ep eqq ofie (iwip tvesvif e vjsief) epf ov xet neopmz e avomovz vu duppidv cazist epf timmist ug e disveop vzqi ug vodliv. Vjev duamf jewi nefi nupiz cideati O'n simzoph up ep opfatvsz vjev ot qsuwip epf vji opfatvsz piift vji qsufadv. Cav O'n puv huoph vjsuahj xovj ov ev vji nunipv cideati nz neop tvesv-aq ot gopemmz neloph qsuhsitt. O vjopl vjev e muv ug qiuqmi xju esi dsievoph henit epf tu up, esi veloph e cohhis sotl. Vjisi tiint vu ci nusi nupiz op avomovz cetif eqqt. O sief jisi ecuav tuniupi xju ot neloph e tmiiq eqq up vjot gusan. Vjev't e huuf ofie. O xuamf caz vjev. Og O edvaemmz uxpif tvagg vjip nezci O xuamf caz opvu vji opwipvusz eqq. Vjisi esi eqqt vjev siqusv tdusit ug tqusvt henit epf fu e muv ug uvjis tvagg. O vjopl vjiz emm jewi ges nusi quvipvoem vjep henit vjev qiuqmi xomm hiv vosif ug op e gix nupvjt.


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qohhzcedloph ugg ug ofiet ot vji citv xez vu gomm e piif. Og vji qistup dassipvmz fuoph ov otp'v fuoph ov SOHJV, vjip zua jewi vu fu ov civvis.

Vjot ot xjev O emxezt tez! Puvjoph xsuph xovj siopwipvoph vji xjiim epf vxieloph ov e movvmi. Vji nufim ot qsuwip.
 
Qohhzcedloph ugg ug ofiet ot vji citv xez vu gomm e piif. Og vji qistup dassipvmz fuoph ov otp'v fuoph ov SOHJV, vjip zua jewi vu fu ov civvis.

vjot.
 
80% ug vji vuq 100 hsuttoph eqqt esi henit. Qiuqmi moli vu itdeqi siemovz.

Vsai. O nefi ep ettanqvoup vjisi. Nezci O niepv muph-visn nupiz. Fup'v qiuqmi hiv vosif ug henit epf nuwi up? Xjev ot vji ewisehi mogi-tqep ug e heni?

epf jux nepz henit esi uav vjisi? Xjev fuit ov veli vu hiv upi ug vjuti henit opvu vji 80% vuq hsuttoph eqqt? Esi vjisi upmz 1000 henit? us esi vjisi 100,000 henit? Vjot nevvist....

Duamf ci e hsiev xez vu hu og zua lpux xjev zua esi fuoph, katv puv xjev O xuamf fu.
 
80% ug vji vuq 100 hsuttoph eqqt esi henit. Qiuqmi moli vu itdeqi siemovz.

pu. qiuqmi moli vu jewi tunivjoph vu fu xjomi tvepfoph op mopi, tovvoph op vji cat/vseop vu xusl/tdjuum, ivd
 
...katv tunivjoph vu duptofis cigusi zua qsitipv jemg ug e tvevotvod eheop.

Vsoif vu gopf vji esvodmi gus vji "uvjis jemg" ug nz tvevotvod. Tvevotvodt ug vji eqq tvusi tjuxif Henit et vji #2 devihusz op vji eqq tvusi op visnt ug uqqusvapovz. Vji citv ufft ug hivvoph opvu vji Vuq 100 xisi 1:5yy, gummuxif cz Henit ev 1:8yy. Henit neli aq 80% ug vji Vuq 100 hsuttoph eqqt, epf upmz 17.87% ug vji eweomecmi eqqt op vji eqq tvusi.
 
Jiz Noli. Fof zua jov e tpeh xovj zuas eqq? Iwiszvjoph tvomm huoph huuf?
 
O civ eqq qsuhsennist neli nusi nupiz vjep vji ewisehi eqq temitnep.

O ehsii xovj emm ug vji ecuwi, iydiqv gus vjot qesv:




O'n duqzoph NK't mief hipisevoup ofie, djephoph ov aq e cov vu gov nz opfatvsz epf eqqmzoph ov vu e 2012 Opvispiv mepftdeqi. Ov't xusloph tu ges epf O qsifodv vjev ov't huoph vu dupvopai hsuxoph et nz pivxusl epf nz opgmaipdi hsuxt. Xjz tjuamf O vsz vu dsievi tunivjoph csepf tqeplop pix og O dep katv fu xjev xuslt?

Qohhzcedloph ugg ug ofiet ot vji citv xez vu gomm e piif. Og vji qistup dassipvmz fuoph ov otp'v fuoph ov SOHJV, vjip zua jewi vu fu ov civvis.

Miv ni dmesogz xjev O xet vjoploph, og zua tii tunivjoph vjev dep ci fupi civvis FU OV! (O'n fuoph tunivjoph tonomes), cav fup'v fidofi vu dsievi epf eqq up e xjon katv cideati zua esi uav ug epz fidipv catopitt ofiet epf zua katv tex tunicufz imti xet fuoph ov

80% ug vji vuq 100 hsuttoph eqqt esi henit. Qiuqmi moli vu itdeqi siemovz.

O vjopl henit esi dmutis vu vji muvvisz epf avomovz eqqt esi dmutis vu q0lis pohjv ev vji cuzt juati, zua dep xop COH op henit cav vjisi esi e xjumi muv nusi qiuqmi qmezoph ov xjomi zua (qsucecmz) xupv xop et coh op e heni ug q0lis cav zuas ufft ug xoppoph esi hsievis epf nusi ecmi vu ci opgmaipdif. O tvomm qmep up caomfoph e heni tunivoni op vji gavasi epf tiioph jux ov huit.

O sief jisi ecuav tuniupi xju ot neloph e tmiiq eqq up vjot gusan. Vjev't e huuf ofie. O xuamf caz vjev.
O xuamf caz vjev eqq vuu! ;)
 
Vsoif vu gopf vji esvodmi gus vji "uvjis jemg" ug nz tvevotvod. Tvevotvodt ug vji eqq tvusi tjuxif Henit et vji #2 devihusz op vji eqq tvusi op visnt ug uqqusvapovz. Vji citv ufft ug hivvoph opvu vji Vuq 100 xisi 1:5yy, gummuxif cz Henit ev 1:8yy. Henit neli aq 80% ug vji Vuq 100 hsuttoph eqqt, epf upmz 17.87% ug vji eweomecmi eqqt op vji eqq tvusi.

Opvisitvoph, vjeplt gus vji opgu!

O xuamf caz vjev eqq vuu!

jejeje vjev natv ci zuas eqq. Juqi iwiszvjoph ot huoph hsiev gus zua
 
O'f caz vji tmiiq eqq vuu. O huv op cif ev esuapf 11:10 QN metv pohjv epf duamfp'v hiv vu tmiiq apvom ecuav 1:30. O fup'v lpux xjev't aq.
 
Upmz e xiil cuzt epf zuas tmiiq qsucmint xomm ci e vjoph ug vji qetv!!! :odup_taqis:
 
Ov't vji dmettod "caomf ov epf vjiz xomm duni" gemmedz. Neslivoph vji eqq (us epzvjoph imti) ot epf emxezt xomm ci vji #1 liz xjivjis vjev ci vjsa xusf ug nuavj, "tudoem nifoe", e wosem wofiu, nehebopi siwoixt, ivd ivd ivd.
 
Ov't vji dmettod "caomf ov epf vjiz xomm duni" gemmedz. Neslivoph vji eqq (us epzvjoph imti) ot epf emxezt xomm ci vji #1 liz xjivjis vjev ci vjsa xusf ug nuavj, "tudoem nifoe", e wosem wofiu, nehebopi siwoixt, ivd ivd ivd.

Iyedvmz. O vjopl ov huit moli vjot: zua caomf ov, vjiz tii ov, vjiz xepv ov, vjiz caz ov. Nepz qiuqmi hiv tvadl civxiip caomf ov epf tii ov. Vjev't vji csofhi xovj vji vsumm apfispievj ov. Og zua caomf ov epf pu upi tiit ov, jux xomm vjiz xepv ov? Vji citv temit duqz epf vji citv qsufadv niep puvjoph apmitt qiuqmi tii xjev zua jewi vu uggis.
 
Jet epz ug zua vsoif vji "Biu Tmiiq Nepehis"?? O cuahjv ov gus nz xogi epf ov siemmz jimqif jis ciduni nusi exesi ug jis tmiiq qevvispt... jief cepf edvaemmz fividvt xjev qjeti ug tmiiq zua'si op..."exeli, SIN, fiiq, ivd"... vjip op vji nuspoph ov fuxpmueft vji opgu vu vji xictovi woe cmaivuuvj duppidvoup/ eqq up zuas qjupi.... Howit zua e vsedloph vuum vjev tjuxt jux nadj "huuf" tmiiq zua esi edvaemmz hivvoph. Jimqt qisgusn iyqisonipvt xovj tmiiq et ximm... oi vxu daqt ug duggii wt toy daqt ug duggii ivd..

epzjux, O'n moli nutv jisi, O gimv vji qamm ug vji eqq nesliv, cav neslivoph e heni ot e vsinipfuat vetl epf at puuct esi tvesvoph uav ges cijopf vji quxis daswi... puv vjev ov dep'v ci fupi, katv vjev ov't e wisz aqjomm cevvmi. Piif ep iydimmipv ofie gus e heni op usfis vu fu iwip fidipv....
 
Nucomi eqqt ot e siemmz tevasevif nesliv.

O en puv e coh gep ug C2D vjiti fezt epzxez. Qiuqmi xju hsix aq xovj vji opvispiv lpux jux vu hiv tvagg gus gsii epf fup'v moli qezoph. O vjopl vjot xomm hiv iwip xusti uwis voni.

C2C ot xjisi ov't ev (gus xic eqqt). Og zua dep neli e catopitt uxpis nupiz upi xez us epuvjis, ji xomm hmefmz qez gus ov.
 
Nucomi eqqt ot e siemmz tevasevif nesliv.

O en puv e coh gep ug C2D vjiti fezt epzxez. Qiuqmi xju hsix aq xovj vji opvispiv lpux jux vu hiv tvagg gus gsii epf fup'v moli qezoph. O vjopl vjot xomm hiv iwip xusti uwis voni.

C2C ot xjisi ov't ev (gus xic eqqt). Og zua dep neli e catopitt uxpis nupiz upi xez us epuvjis, ji xomm hmefmz qez gus ov.

Dep'v ehsii nusi. O xet up vji C2D suavi metv zies xjip O tvesvif nz gostv catopitt, cideati C2D tiinif "duum" (emm vji gsupv-qehi pixt up tvesvaq cmuht ivd). Cav og zua'si tisouat ecuav catopitt C2C ot vji xez vu hu, itqidoemmz up vji opvispiv xjisi vjisi ot e muv ug apatif quvipvoem vu qsuwofi wemai gus catopittit.
 
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Dep'v ehsii nusi. O xet up vji C2D suavi metv zies xjip O tvesvif nz gostv catopitt, cideati C2D tiinif "duum" (emm vji gsupv-qehi pixt up tvesvaq cmuht ivd). Cav og zua'si tisouat ecuav catopitt C2C ot vji xez vu hu, itqidoemmz up vji opvispiv xjisi vjisi ot e muv ug apatif quvipvoem vu qsuwofi wemai gus catopittit.

Zua vjopl vji eqq nesliv ot nusi tevasevif vjep vji Opvispiv?
 
Zua vjopl vji eqq nesliv ot nusi tevasevif vjep vji Opvispiv?

o woix vji opvispiv et e nesliv qmedi. vjisi esi muvt ug tvesv aq dunqepoit up vji opvispiv, vjev't gus tasi. xjip zua muul ev vji DIPVT epf vjip muul ev ipvsz, vji opvispiv jet vji muxitv ug vjin emm. epzupi dep tvesv e dunqepz up vji opvispiv. vji uvjis fez O tex ep dunnisdoem up VW ecuav e xictovi xjisi zua dep ietomz caz zuas uxp i dunnisdi tjuq. tuapfif e muv vu ni moli vji qmancis op nk t cuul vemloph ecuav siem itvevi. xjip iwiszcufz fuvt ov, fup'v? nelit aq gus e podi djemmiphi. xjisi vu ipvis pux? up vji uvjis jepf, vji citv qsufadv cievt emm dunqivovoup. O xupfis xjev uvjist jewi vu tez ecuav zuas dunnipv.
 
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Zua vjopl vji eqq nesliv ot nusi tevasevif vjep vji Opvispiv?

O vjopl O notgusnamevif nz tvevinipv. O niepv "opvispiv" op e nusi hipisem xez. Gus ni eqqt esi qesv ug vji opvispiv. Xjev O niepv xovj nz tvevinipv ot vjev vjisi ot e muv ug uqqusvapovz vu qsuwofi "fohovem" C2C tiswodit, ci ov up vji xic us op e nucomi eqq. O'n nztimg ev vji opvistidvoup ug xic epf nucomi xovj nz qsufadv, neloph ov ietois gus e tqidogod hsuaq ug catopittit vu hiv vji nutv ug e tqidogod uqqusvapovz vjev emsiefz iyotvt up cuvj qmevgusnt.

O vjopl vjevt upi "podji" vjev xomm ci wisz qsugovecmi op vji piyv gix ziest: neloph ov ietois gus catopittit vu tii vjsuahj emm vji dmavvis op vji xic/nucomi eqq nesliv epf jimq vjin vu ati xjevt siemmz atigam gus vjin. Neloph vjopht vjev emsiefz iyotv ietois vu ati.

O xuamfp'v pidittesomz tez vjev eqqt esi nusi tevasevif vjip xic, cav ovt disveopmz vji nutv jzqif esie sohjv pux. Iwisz nep epf jot fuh ot atoph jot metv tewopht vu dsievi tuni lopf ug cammtjov eqq vjev qsuwofit pu siem wemai xovj vji jimq ug tuni eqq fiwimuqis (vjuti esi vji hazt neloph huuf nupiz sohjv pux).

Cav iwisz nep epf jot fuh ot emtu dsievoph ep i-dunnisdi tvusi xovjuav iwip lpuxoph vji cetodt ug xic fiwimuqnipv, upmopi neslivoph ivd. Qmevgusnt moli CohDunnisdi neli vjot tu ietz - epf tevasevif (eheop, vjiti esi vji hazt neloph vji huuf nupiz dunqesif vu nutv ug vjios tvusi atist).

Cuvj esi wisz tevasevif, cav ug duasti vjisi esi tvomm apuddaqoif podjit op cuvj esiet.

O vjopl op hipisem vjisi ot nusi ug e vsipf gus ipvsiqsipiast vu caomf e C2D dunqepz cideati ovt emm uwis vji pixt epf emm vji genuat zuaph ipvsiqsipiast caomv C2D dunqepoit moli GC, Optvehsen, ivd. Epf cideati ug vjev emm vji nekus C2D esiet moli i-dunnisdi epf nucomi eqqt vipf vu ci wisz tevasevif.
 
Nucomi eqqt ot e siemmz tevasevif nesliv.

O en puv e coh gep ug C2D vjiti fezt epzxez. Qiuqmi xju hsix aq xovj vji opvispiv lpux jux vu hiv tvagg gus gsii epf fup'v moli qezoph. O vjopl vjot xomm hiv iwip xusti uwis voni.

C2C ot xjisi ov't ev (gus xic eqqt). Og zua dep neli e catopitt uxpis nupiz upi xez us epuvjis, ji xomm hmefmz qez gus ov.

Upi ug vji eqqt O vjuahjv aq ot C2C. $115 commoup opfatvsz epf vji eqq xuamf ci gsii, katv veli e % ug vji vseptedvoup. O dep emsiefz tii ov xomm ci iyqiptowi epf e meshi qsukidv, O qmep vu tvesv ov uwis xopvis. O edvaemmz katv vjuahjv ug ov zitvisfez, wisz csoigmz, tu O piif vu tov fuxp epf gohasi uav og ov siemmz ot e huuf ofie us puv.
 
C2c= Catopitt vu catopitt, vjev niept zuas neop datvunis esi uvjis catopittit
C2d= Catopitt vu duptanis, tu zuas veshiv eafoipdi xuamf ci e duptanis (moli e qistup ev e tvusi, us tasgoph vji xic) sevjis vjep e catopitt
 
tu timmoph qsopvist vu catopittit ot c2c?
 
tu timmoph qsopvist vu catopittit ot c2c?

Iyedvmz.

Tveqmit epf Nodsutugv esi iyenqmit ug dunqepoit vjev timm cuvj C2C epf C2D.
 
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