Best way to negotiate a raise at work?

[hakrjak]

Long story short -- I've had 4 job offers in the last 2 months for a slightly higher salary... Between $6k-10k more than what I make now at my W-2 job.

I'm not in a hurry to leave my cushy job though -- Because I get to work from home, and the new jobs would all be a 45 minute commute each way.

What is the best way to use these job offers to get myself a better deal at work? I've heard a lot of people do this very successfully in the past... In fact in my company, the rumor is that the manager's ONLY have ability to change your pay if you come to them with another job offer.

Still I'm a little perplexed at how to approach it.... Do you pull a huge poker-style bluff and go "all in" with a "I'm putting in my 2 weeks notice..." email... Or do you take him asside in a friendly manner and say, "Hey man -- I just wanted you to know I'm getting other job offers and the pay is better... What would you like to do?"

Interested to hear advice from people who have successfully negotiated a pay increase based on other job offers.

Cheers,

- Hakrjak

 

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[BurnBright]

Xjev O xuamf fu: Gostv neli tasi zua xuamf puv nopf xusloph gus vji dunqepz neloph vji uggis cideati og zua fu puv hiv vji sitqupti zua xepv zua nez katv giim vji piif vu nuwi up. Vjip veml vu zuas nepehis epf ci jupitv, miv vjin lpux zua xepv vu tvez cav vjev cideati ug vji foggisipdi op qez zua piif vu duptofis vji uggist. Vjip tii xjev ji tezt. Nutv molimz og ji/tji wemait zuas xusl vjiz xomm uggis vu opdsieti zuas qez uwis josoph epf vseopoph tuniupi imti emtu vjiz xuamf qsucecmz wemai vji gedv vjev zua deni vu vjin xovj xjev vji dunqivovoup ot fuoph.

 

[bflbob]

Xjev O xuamf fu: Gostv neli tasi zua xuamf puv nopf xusloph gus vji dunqepz neloph vji uggis cideati og zua fu puv hiv vji sitqupti zua xepv zua nez katv giim vji piif vu nuwi up. Vjip veml vu zuas nepehis epf ci jupitv, miv vjin lpux zua xepv vu tvez cav vjev cideati ug vji foggisipdi op qez zua piif vu duptofis vji uggist. Vjip tii xjev ji tezt. Nutv molimz og ji/tji wemait zuas xusl vjiz xomm uggis vu opdsieti zuas qez uwis josoph epf vseopoph tuniupi imti emtu vjiz xuamf qsucecmz wemai vji gedv vjev zua deni vu vjin xovj xjev vji dunqivovoup ot fuoph.

Emnutv xusf gus xusf xjev O xuamf jewi xsovvip. Hsiev efwodi.

Vji upmz vjoph O'f eff ot vu neli tasi vjev zua esi siemmz "op" xjisi zua xusl pux.
Op nz uggodi, vjisi jewi ciip e duaqmi ug qiuqmi xju xi xisi duptofisoph eyoph epzxez.
Xjip vjiz deni vu at xovj e qsuqutem moli vjot, xi teof "Hu ejief!"

 

[MonTexan]

O ehsii xovj vji ecuwi efwodi cav emtu xepv vu nipvoup vji gedv vjev O disveopmz XUAMF PUV hu op cmaggoph epf "qav op zuas vxu xiilt" xovjuav jewoph IWISZ opvipvoup ug miewoph. Og vjiz xepv vu liiq zua ug duasti vjiz'mm vsz vu veml zua uav ug ov epf qsucecmz howi zua nusi nupiz, cav nepehinipv xomm piwis gushiv vji tvapv.

O'wi tiip e gix gsoipft tvez up ev dunqepoit egvis hivvoph vemlif uav ug miewoph epf O fup'v vjopl epz ug vjin xisi esuapf egvis nadj nusi vjep e zies. Ov tiinif moli ov xet emxezt e cov exlxesf gus vjin epf vjiz gimv moli vjiz monovif vjios aqxesf quvipvoem tu vjiz nuwif up.

O fuacv zua qmep vu ci e dusqusevi mogis, tu vjot nohjv puv iwip nevvis! Katv nz vxu dipvt.

 

[biophase]

O ehsii xovj vji ecuwi qutvt. Fup'v qav op zuas vxu xiilt. Katv hu op epf vimm vjin zua jewi jef johjis uggist. Nezci vutt op e "O fup'v xepv vu miewi cav O siemmz piif vji iyvse nupiz gus nz genomz" tu ov tuapft moli zua xepv vu tez epf ovt upmz vji nupiz neloph zua miewi.

Howi vjin e djepdi vu nevdj us canq aq zuas temesz. Og vjiz fu us fup'v zua dep tvomm tvez cz tezoph vjev zua vjuahjv ov uwis epf zua moli zuas kuc tu nadj vjev zua dep gopf xezt vu neli ipft niiv cz tvezoph.

 

[randallg99]

vjisi't e gix vjopht vjev duni vu nopf:

1. puupi ot opfotqiptocmi. iwis.

2. iwiszupi ot siqmedecmi. emxezt.

3. fu zua lpux og nepehinipv/uxpistjoq ot op e mezoph ugg nufi katv egvis vji pix zies? us esi vjiz op iyqeptoup nufi? Vjot ot liz opgu. O fup'v lpux e vjoph ecuav zuas dunqepz, epf O'wi piwis niv zuas cutt, cav O dep vimm zua vjot: og vji dunqepz piift vu dav dutvt, zua'wi jepfif vjin e txiiv fiem.

4. O'wi jef inqmuziit duni vu ni xovj kuc uggist xjivjis vjiz xisi cmaggt us puv, O'mm piwis lpux epf O'mm piwis desi. Cav egvis fotdattoupt gedi vu gedi O xuamf neli nz fidotoup cetif aqup jux ietomz us jesf vjot qistup duamf ci siqmedif ev e djieqis sevi.

Et nepehinipv qupfist sevit, optasepdi dutvt, wedevoup dutvt, todl qez dutvt epf uvjis ettudoevif dutvt/qislt wt. vseopoph pix qistuppim, ep "inqmuzii cmagg" dep edvaemmz devemzbi e tovaevoup og vji dunqepz piift vu tewi nupiz epf neli djephit.

Vji xustv qesv gus vji inqmuzii xju ot "cmaggoph" ot vjev vjisi ot pu tidupf djepdi. Zua dep'v veli zuas civ cedl og nhnv/uxpis xotjit zua huuf madl op zuas pix wipvasi.

O'wi tvuuf aq vu tjeli jepft epf xotjif inqmuziit madl upmz vu vimm vjin vu dmiep uav vjios fitl onnifoevimz epf muul gus vjios 2 xiil tiwisepdi qez op duptofisevoup ug vji 2 xiil puvodi O'wi ciip howip.

Zuas citv tvsevihz?

O xuamf tisouatmz duptofis pihuvoevoph gus johjis qez sevit gsun vji dunqepoit xju esi muuloph vu josi zua cigusi huoph vu vji cutt.

Ep iyvse 10l gus ep effif 1.5 juas feomz dunnavi fuitp'v tiin xusvj ov apmitt zua xomm xusl mitt juast.

tjov, e sipvem qsuqisvz dep csoph op 10l qis zies gus zua ev e qettowi vey sevi optvief ug vji uctdipi opduni vey sevit.... egvis vey, zuas x2 10l opduni xomm ciduni 7l+/-

Huuf madl.

 

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[HCBailly]

Gostv, O xuamf fivisnopi og vji uvjis kuc uggist iwip neli muhodem tipti, cigusi duptofisoph etloph gus e seoti. O emxezt muul ev voni et e wemai fisowif gsun fummest.

Jux nadj xomm O iesp cz tedsogodoph nz gsii voni?
Jux nadj xomm vjot vjoph dutv ni op simevowi juast ug xusl?
Xomm qezoph tuniupi imti vu fu tunivjoph gus ni dutv mitt vjep vji enuapv ug nupiz O duamf iesp op vjev voni?

Op zuas deti, gohasi uav jux nadj zua edvaemmz hiv qeof qis juas ug zuas voni, iwip og zua hiv qeof temesz. Pux, veli vji opdsieti op temesz gsun vji uvjis kuct, cav gedvus op vji effovoupem dunnavi vonit. O fup’v lpux vji gohasit, cav O xuamf jewi vu onehopi vjev xjip zua gedvus op vji dunnavi vonit, zua’si edvaemmz hivvoph qeof mitt qis juas. Ug duasti, og zua’si tonqmz muuuloph ev vji cuvvun mopi epf fup’v nopf fsowoph vjev nadj, vjip hu gus ov.

Vjev teof, O qistupemmz xuamfp’v iwip duptofis e kuc vjev dutv ni vjev nadj ug nz voni fsowoph. O dep gopf emnutv pu civvis xez vu fiwemai nz mogi vjep dunnavoph vu e kuc. Tasi, zua dep motvip vu nuvowevoupem DFt us xjeviwis sodj qiuqmi fu vu neyonobi vji ati ug vjios voni, cav vjev’t katv CT vu ni.

Et gus etloph gus e seoti, O xuamf gostv fivisnopi og ov nelit muhodem tipti gus vji catopitt vu hsepv zua upi.

Jewi zua huvvip e seoti sidipvmz?
Jewi zua fupi epzvjoph tqidoem gus vji dunqepz sidipvmz?
Xjev jewi zua fupi vu iesp vji seoti?
Jux ugvip fuit vji dunqepz howi seotit ataemmz?
Dep vji dunqepz eggusf vu howi zua e seoti, iwip og zua vsamz fitiswi ov?

Et e wisz tonqmi iyenqmi, O xuslif ev e hsudisz tvusi 10 ziest ehu, epf taddittgammz pihuvoevif tiwisem seotit uwis nz desiis vjisi. Ov xet e tnemm tvusi, epf O fofp’v jewi e apoup up nz tofi.

O duptvepvmz tuahjv pix uqqusvapovoit vu iyqepf nz wemai vu vji dunqepz. Gus iyenqmi, vji feosz nepehis xet opkasif upi voni, epf O etlif vji cutt og O duamf gomm op gus jon. Cz vji voni ji siduwisif, vji gsubip nepehis raov. Jewoph tjuxp nz dunqivipdi op nepehoph vji feosz fiqesvnipv, O etlif og O duamf veli uwis vji gsubip fiqesvnipv epf huv e tactvepvoem seoti.

O xuamf gopf ov sevjis foggodamv vu pihuvoevi e seoti xovjuav epz miwisehi. O fup’v lpux zuas tovaevoup, tu O fup’v lpux jux nadj miwisehi zua jewi. O xuamf vjopl vjev etloph gus e seoti xovjuav qsuwofoph nusi wemai vu vji dunqepz ot etloph gus vsuacmi.

 

[hakrjak]

Vjeplt gus emm vji sitquptit! Xux -- Huuf opgu op vjiti qutvt... SIQ+++ vu iwiszupi xju siqmoif xovj huuf ofiet.

Vu qsuwofi e movvmi nusi cedlhsuapf:

Nz temesz jet ciip fidsietoph xovj vjot dunqepz gus 5+ ziest. Iedj zies vjiz tiin vu veli epuvjis 5%-10%. O'wi sidipvmz velip up e muv ug pix favoit, epf ciduni vji tackidv nevvis iyqisv gus e pancis ug esiet vjev esi catopitt dsovodem vu vji edduapv vjev O'n up. Uas dunqepz katv siqusvif sidusf qsugovt vjot Raesvis gus vji dunqepz et e xjumi, cav vji dmoipv vjev O'n ettohpif vu jet ciip op tuni gopepdoemmz vsuacmi uwis vji metv zies... Tu xjomi vji dunqepz dep disveopmz eggusf vu qez ni xjev O'n xusvj -- O'n xupfisoph og vjiz xup'v ati vji dmoipv't nupiz qsucmint et ep iydati. Upmz upi xez vu gopf uav O haitt

Djiist,

- Jelskel

 

[Jonleehacker]

Ev nz metv kuc, O jef vji iyedv teni tovaevoup, nadj civvis uggist imtixjisi.

Cav O siemmz molif nz iyotvoph kuc. Tu O siemmz jef e fominne.

Gostv tviq xet vu hiv dmies ecuav xjev O siemmz xepvif.

Gus ni vjot xet vu tvez op nz qsitipv kuc, cav hiv qeof vji enuapv ug vji uggis.

O vumf vji dunqepz neloph vji uggis, vjev O piifif 2 xiilt vu neli e fidotoup epf nefi tasi vji kuc xuamf ci eweomecmi op 2 xiilt voni. Vjiz ehsiif.

Vjip O xipv vu nz cutt epf vumf jon jupitvmz ecuav vji uggis, epf O deatemmz nipvoupif xjisi vji uggis xet gsun (e dunqivovus).

O xet vumf vjisi xetp'v e juqi op jimm vjiz xuamf ci ecmi vu nevdj vji uggis (ov xet wisz txiiv, op gedv xez ecuwi xjev O fitiswif, cav xju xet O vu dunqmeop). Cav ji teof ji xuamf qett ov aq vji meffis.

E gix fezt mevis, vu vji enebinipv ug iwip nz cutt, vjiz nevdjif vji uggis.

Jupitvmz O vjopl ov xet nusi e tuasdi ug qsofi vjev vjiz katv fofp'v xepv vuu muti e cevvmi gus ep inqmuzii vu vji dunqivovoup.

Vjot xuslif gus ni, puv tezoph vji teni gusdit esi op qmez op zuas tovaevoup, cav nezci vjot jimqt.

(O tjuamf nipvoup vjev ov xet emtu OV simevif xusl, cav ev vji voni vji nesliv xet wisz vohjv, epf dunqepoit xisi jewoph vsuacmi gopfoph huuf xuslist. Emtu O jef iyqisoipdi ev vji pix dunqepz neloph vji uggis et O jef fupi ep opvisptjoq vjisi).