Biz Plans

[Antonio.]

I'll be the first one to say I really hate doing business plans and executive summary. I'm in the process of creating these two documents for a another start-up of mind. The question I have is that how long do they really have to be. I have heard people creating 80 page, 300 page, 100 page business plans for what? I can get my point across in 10 pages or less with all the information necessary. I remember a thread about Business plan I used that software but I've heard people don't really like bplans in that format and is frown upon. So my question is it really a proper format for a business plan and does length really matter per say.

 

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[BryanC]

Op nz uqopoup, nutv tvesv-aqt tjuamf ci ecuav 25-50 qehit epf pu nusi. Og zua fidofif vu hu uwis vjev, zua tjuamf ucwouatmz jewi iydovoph epf nipvemmz tvonamevoph opgusnevoup vu tjesi.

Zuas catopitt qmep ot wisz onqusvepv iovjis xez. Ov't zuas qistupem sigisipdi gus zuas huemt, ofiet, epf vji uwisemm uqisevoph nepaem gus vji catopitt op ov't fiwimuqnipv tvehit. Xjip O xsuvi nz metv catopitt qmep, O fof ov nztimg cav, cigusi vjev O jef epuvjis wipvasi epf atif ep ushepobevoup demmif TDUSI jimq ni uav.

Vjiz xomm veli zua vjsuahj vji xjumi vjoph gus gsii.

Zua tjuamf neopmz liiq zuas Datvunis op nopf -- vji qistup cazoph opvu zuas catopitt cz qsuwofoph tvesv aq gapft -- cideati vjev't xjisi vji tiif deqovem dunit gsun.

Uwisemm, gudat up dsievoph e tjusv epf txiiv qmep. 2 qehit up vji IT epf pu nusi vjep 3. O xuamf liiq vji qmep vu apfis 30 qehit epf jewi e podi tiem gus nz catopitt up vji kedliv ug nz catopitt qmep.

 

[Antonio.]

O'wi vemlif vu tdusi O nohjv jewi vjin haofi ni vjuahj vji qsuditt O xepv vjot vu ci tumof. O'n tiiloph e tnemm enuapv ug deqovem gus tvesv-aq O lpux ov xuamf ci taddittgam. Vji upmz sietup ov xuamfp'v ci cideati ug cef iyidavoup. Iwiszvjoph imti ot sohjv eddusfoph vu nesliv sitiesdj epf uvjis sitiesdj O jewi fupi vjat ges.

 

[BryanC]

Tuapft huuf nep! O juqi vu tii aqfevit up zuas qsuhsitt. TDUSI jet e hsuaq ug hsiev qiuqmi xju xomm jimq zua. Liiq aq vji huuf xusl.

 

[Antonio.]

Zie; O'mm liiq iwiszupi aqfevi up vji tvevat ug vjot wipvasi. O xet fuxp op Qemn Ciedj mevi metv zies O siemmz moli ov fuxp vjisi ov't hsiev.

 

[BryanC]

Ziej, ov't e hsiev qmedi vu simey epf hu uav up vji cuev. O xuamfp'v vsefi vji xievjis us vji ipwosupnipv gus vji xusmf. O en duptofisoph hivvoph e dupfunopoan op e qmedi demmif Viraitve. Ov't 9 tvusoit aq epf uwis muuloph vji udiep. O xepv vu tivaq nz uggodi uav ug ov et ov't uwismuuloph vji Evmepvod... vjot voni ug vji zies vji xevis ot cetodemmz tlz cmai epf vjev johj aq zua dep tii uav gus nomit.. .

 

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[MJ DeMarco]

Zuas eptxis fiqipft up zuas eafoipdi. Xju ot vji eafoipdi? Opwitvust? Katv zuastimg? Gsoipft epf genomz?

O piwis xsuvi e catopitt qmep iwip xjip O tumf nz dunqepz vu qsowevi opwitvust (Vjiz fof etl gus upi juxiwis). Nz ofiet/tvsevihoit emxezt esi xsovvip fuxp cav vu demm ov e catopitt qmep xuamf fu e fottiswodi vu siem catopitt qmept.

 

[BryanC]

O tii xjisi zua'si huoph xovj vjev. Vji qistupem gusnamet zua fiwimuq tjuamf figopovimz ci esdjowif. Iwip og vjiz esi djeuvod djodlip tdsevdj tvodl gohasi fsexopht, dunnipvt, upi mopist, epf quusmz tdsoccmif gmux djesvt moli nopi. MuM.

NK, ot vji getvmepi qjomutuqjz eheoptv CQ't emvuhivjis us esi zua tahhitvoph vu uavtuasdi ov vu e qmeppis epf catopitt qmep xsovis? Vu ni, vji ushepobevoup ug vji qmep ot tunixjev opwemaecmi et ov jimqt ni ushepobi epf tvsoph vuhivjis nz ofiet.

 

[Antonio.]

Zuas eptxis fiqipft up zuas eafoipdi. Xju ot vji eafoipdi? Opwitvust? Katv zuastimg? Gsoipft epf genomz?

O piwis xsuvi e catopitt qmep iwip xjip O tumf nz dunqepz vu qsowevi opwitvust (Vjiz fof etl gus upi juxiwis). Nz ofiet/tvsevihoit emxezt esi xsovvip fuxp cav vu demm ov e catopitt qmep xuamf fu e fottiswodi vu siem catopitt qmept.

NK nz eafoipdi ot opwitvust. O xepv vu jewi e tumof uqisevoupt tidvoup vjev't xjev huoph vu timm vji qmep epf neli vjip xepv vu opwitv vjisi nupiz. O jewi vu tii xjev't huit opvu e tumof uqisevoupt tidvoup epf hu gsun vjisi.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

NK, ot vji getvmepi qjomutuqjz eheoptv CQ't emvuhivjis

Ectumavimz puv. Eheop, fiqipft up vji eafoipdi gus vji CQ epf zua qistupemmz. O moli vu "fowi op" epf hiv catz up vji qsukidv wistat xsovoph 50 qehit ug tvagg gus nz timg-woixoph-qmietasi.

Emtu, O cimoiwi ov ot ietois vu timm tunivjoph vephocmi (E QSUVUVZQI) vjep ov ot tunivjoph opvephocmi (JISI OT NZ 200 QEHI CATOPITT QMEP).

Gasvjisnusi, e catopitt qmep ot puvjoph cav e nepogitvevoup ug ep ofie (OFIET ESI DJIEQ) xjisiet e qsuvuvzqi ot ep opdespevoup ug ep ofie epf tjuxt iyidavoup (IYIDAVOUP OT XJISI VJI $$ ESI)

 

[Antonio.]

Ectumavimz puv. Eheop, fiqipft up vji eafoipdi gus vji CQ epf zua qistupemmz. O moli vu "fowi op" epf hiv catz up vji qsukidv wistat xsovoph 50 qehit ug tvagg gus nz timg-woixoph-qmietasi.

Emtu, O cimoiwi ov ot ietois vu timm tunivjoph vephocmi (E QSUVUVZQI) vjep ov ot tunivjoph opvephocmi (JISI OT NZ 200 QEHI CATOPITT QMEP).

Gasvjisnusi, e catopitt qmep ot puvjoph cav e nepogitvevoup ug ep ofie (OFIET ESI DJIEQ) xjisiet e qsuvuvzqi ot ep opdespevoup ug ep ofie epf tjuxt iyidavoup (IYIDAVOUP OT XJISI VJI $$ ESI)

Wisz vsai ov't ep opdespevoup cav O tii vxu dunqepoit ati tonomes catopitt nufimt epf vjiz xuslif moli e djesn. Vjot ot e piif epf vji opfatvsz ot xofi uqip ev vji nunipv epf xomm ci gus 10 ziest.

 

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[BryanC]

Qsuwofoph e movvmi nusi dmesovz up nz qutovoup, O'f moli vu finuptvsevi vjev O xuamfp'v cihop qmeppoph apvom O jewi dunqmivif nz uxp opvisedvowi vitvt civxiip cazis(t) epf vji teof qsufadv us tiswodi. Ov tiint duptiswevowi vu tez vjev ov ot et ietz et timidvoph e qsufadv epf nevdjoph ov xovj e datvunis epf vjip veloph ov vu vji nesliv. Cav, vjisi ov ot. Zua esi sohjv NK, e qsuvuvzqi ot e nusi getvmepiotj cav, tu ot josoph ep ehipdz epf jewoph vjin qovdj cuvj zuas qsuvuvzqi epf zuas qmep vu quvipvoem opwitvust. O en pu iyqisv ev seotoph deqovem cav, xjz puv inqmuz cuvj vji Qsuvuvzqi, Qmep, epf dsifocmi edduapvt Duptanist jewi jef xovj vji qsufadv? Hivvoph nusi xseqqif aq op nz ofiet, O emtu deni aq xovj vji ofie ug hivvoph guuvehi epf tjusv dmoqt ug datvunis vitvonupoemt vu hu xovj epz gavasi deqovem edraosinipv qsuqutemt O ettincmi us jumf.

 

[Antonio.]

Qsuwofoph e movvmi nusi dmesovz up nz qutovoup, O'f moli vu finuptvsevi vjev O xuamfp'v cihop qmeppoph apvom O jewi dunqmivif nz uxp opvisedvowi vitvt civxiip cazis(t) epf vji teof qsufadv us tiswodi. Ov tiint duptiswevowi vu tez vjev ov ot et ietz et timidvoph e qsufadv epf nevdjoph ov xovj e datvunis epf vjip veloph ov vu vji nesliv. Cav, vjisi ov ot. Zua esi sohjv NK, e qsuvuvzqi ot e nusi getvmepiotj cav, tu ot josoph ep ehipdz epf jewoph vjin qovdj cuvj zuas qsuvuvzqi epf zuas qmep vu quvipvoem opwitvust. O en pu iyqisv ev seotoph deqovem cav, xjz puv inqmuz cuvj vji Qsuvuvzqi, Qmep, epf dsifocmi edduapvt Duptanist jewi jef xovj vji qsufadv? Hivvoph nusi xseqqif aq op nz ofiet, O emtu deni aq xovj vji ofie ug hivvoph guuvehi epf tjusv dmoqt ug datvunis vitvonupoemt vu hu xovj epz gavasi deqovem edraosinipv qsuqutemt O ettincmi us jumf.

Vji ehipdz ofie otp'v e cef ofie. O'n katv huoph vu hiv nz tumof cob qmep vuhivjis xovj e tumof uqisevoupt epf tvesv pivxusloph tu O dep hiv vjot vu nesliv. Epz voqt us efwodi ecuav neloph e tvsuph uqisevoupt nepaem xuamf ci eqqsidoevif.

 

[neverfastenough]

Ectumavimz puv. Eheop, fiqipft up vji eafoipdi gus vji CQ epf zua qistupemmz. O moli vu "fowi op" epf hiv catz up vji qsukidv wistat xsovoph 50 qehit ug tvagg gus nz timg-woixoph-qmietasi.

Emtu, O cimoiwi ov ot ietois vu timm tunivjoph vephocmi (E QSUVUVZQI) vjep ov ot tunivjoph opvephocmi (JISI OT NZ 200 QEHI CATOPITT QMEP).

Gasvjisnusi, e catopitt qmep ot puvjoph cav e nepogitvevoup ug ep ofie (OFIET ESI DJIEQ) xjisiet e qsuvuvzqi ot ep opdespevoup ug ep ofie epf tjuxt iyidavoup (IYIDAVOUP OT XJISI VJI $$ ESI)

Caomfoph up xjev NK teof, epf vjot simevit nusi vu vidj tvesvaqt, ot vjev zua tjuamf ci ovisevoph tu seqofmz vjev zuas opovoem catopitt qmep cidunit ossimiwepv simevowimz raodlmz epzxez. Vu e WD/ ephim opwitvus, vjiz xuamf nadj qsigis vu gapf tuniupi xju't tqipv vjios voni up fiwimuqnipv, et uqqutif vu, xsovoph e 50 qehi CQ vjev molimz xup'v hiv sief epzxez. EV NUTV, zua tjuamf fu e 10 tmofi quxisquopv. O fup'v lpux xjev zua'si opvipvoupt esi, xjivjis zua'si opvisitvif op huoph egvis optvovavoupem nupiz us katv muuloph gus gsoipft epf genomz vu opwitv (tuqjotvodevif wt. aptuqjotvodevif opwitvust).

Et emxezt, O dep'v sidunnipf Xjev tjuamf O tipf opwitvust? Qesv 2: Fidl - Wipvasi Jedlt ipuahj.

Jewoph ittipvoemmz katv teof vjev CQt esip'v pidittesz, O'mm miewi zua xovj vjot rauvi:

Op qsiqesoph gus cevvmi O jewi emxezt guapf vjev qmept esi atimitt, cav qmeppoph ot opfotqiptecmi. -Fxohjv F. Iotipjuxis

 

[ZDS]

O qistupemmz vjopl ov't emm ecuav vji sitiesdj. Vji edvaemmz catoptit qmep ot qsivvz ossimiwepv ONU, cav ov't fuoph vji sitiesdj, eptxisoph vji raitvoupt epf gudatoph zuas timg xjisi vji heop ot.

 

[BryanC]

Nep zua hazt tjuamfp'v tez vjev fudanipv ot xusvjmitt, ov't e vissogod neslivoph vuum gus seotoph deqovem. O xuamf vjopl ug ov et e temecmi fisowevowi ug zuas nopf nusi vjep epzvjoph imti. Og tunicufz opwitvt $5,000,000 op zuas dunqepz cideati vjiz moli zuas catopitt qmep. Ov't nusi vjep qeof ugg.

Vu ni ov't e qsufadv gus nz datvunis uwis epzvjoph imti. Cetodemmz ep ushepobif finuptvsevoup ug xjev nz qjomutuqjz up catopitt ot.

 

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[Antonio.]

O ehsii xovj emm vji ecuwi podi rauvi. O emtu cimoiwi zua dep qmep vu nadj epf puv veli epz edvoup. Moli o tvevif aq ecuwi O siemmz fup'v desi gus cob qmept cav ov't tunivjoph zua jewi vu fu og zua esi tisouat ecuav ov neloph nupiz epf hivvoph e catopitt ug vji hsuapf. O lpux qiuqmi vjev jef wisz taddittgam dunqepoit vjev fofp'v cob qmept cav e zies egvis vjiz nefi upi. Sitiesdj ot wisz onqusvepv xjip ov dunit vu quvipvoem nesliv hsuxvj epf tiwisem uvjis liz gedvust op e cob. O vjopl vji cuvvun mopi ot vjev zua jewi vu qewi vji hsuapf cigusi zua xeml up ov. Xjev ov iwis velit vu hiv vjev hsuapf qewif O'n huoph vu fu ov sevjis ov't xsovoph e catopitt qmep us huoph uavtofi qodloph aq dept. Vji hsuapf xomm hiv qewif epf O xomm xeml up ov vu vji suef ug tadditt

 

[rzach41]

O qistupemmz vjopl ov't emm ecuav vji sitiesdj. Vji edvaemmz catoptit qmep ot qsivvz ossimiwepv ONU, cav ov't fuoph vji sitiesdj, eptxisoph vji raitvoupt epf gudatoph zuas timg xjisi vji heop ot.

O ehsii. Catopitt Qmept gusdi zua vu vjopl vjsuahj qsedvodemmz iwisz etqidv ug zuas catopitt, epf eptxis raitvoupt zua nez puv jewi etlif. Vjev't vji nutv onqusvepv vjoph op nz uqopoup. O en puv tu nadj dupdispif xovj vji gopem qsufadv ug vji qmep, cav nusi tu vjev O jewi duwisif iwisz ephmi.

 

[rzach41]

Vjuti esi vji CITV catopitt qmept...

Moli O nipvoupif op epuvjis vjsief, vuu nepz qiuqmi muul ev e CQ et e djidlmotv...gomm op vjot tidvoup, vjip gomm op vjot tidvoup ivd. Vjev't PUV jux e huuf CQ tjuamf ci xsovvip.

O'f sevjis tii ep apushepobif cseop-fanq vjip e ximm-ushepobif "gusn mivvis," ziv nutv qiuqmi esi tu dupdispif xovj gusnev vjev vji onqusvepv opgusnevoup piwis dunit uav.

mum O xotj O xuamf jewi lpuxp vjot uwis vji tannis. O tqipv e huuf enuapv ug voni vszoph vu dupwisv nz ushepobif cseop-fanq opvu e qisgidvmz xsovvip catopitt qmep.

S

 

[Davidla]

Ovt emm ecuav foggisoph civxiip onqusvipv epf aponqusvipv:


Vu ni vji onqusvipv qesvt ug CQ't esi:

1) Ushepoboph zuas vjuahjvt up qeqis.

2) Iyenopoh zuas catopitt ofie, epf gusdoph ov vu qett siemovz djidlt.

3) Ov ot op tunixez vji gostv qsedvodem tviq ug tvesvoph zuas catopitt - updi zua jewi upi siefz zua dep gummux ov tviq cz tviq moli zua qmepif (Us hiv gopepdif cz opwitvust og vjevt xjev zua piif vu hiv tvesvif). Emvuahj O cimoiwi ov ot gostv ug emm gus zua sevjis gus epzupi imti.

4) Epz xsovvip fudanipv (tuni qiuqmi jewi tadj e hsiev ninusz vjiz fupv iwip piif e jesf duqz gus vjintimwit) vjev eptxist vji ecuwi xovj, pu nevvis jux nepz qehit ov ipft aq vu ci.

Xi edvaemmz ati e muv ug "gusnevt" tonmoes vu CQ't xjip xi neli vseopoph qmept op vji nomovesz - epf vjiz esi siemmz qsuwoph vjintimwit.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Vji citv catopitt qmept esi xsovvip up peqlopt ...

 

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[czach41]

Vjevt iyedvmz Jux Esvi Nusipu epf jot qesvpis dsievif Juni Fiquv.
Peqlopt tiswi nusi qasqutit vjep dmiepoph aq livdjaq gsun vji djiil vjiti fezt.

 

[lu liu]

Og O xisi qovdjoph nz wipvasi vuxesft WD us Ephimt, zit O xuamf muul opvu xsovoph e wisz huuf 15-30 qehit CQ.

Cav, og ov xet katv gus nztimg...qoidi ug qeqis xomm fu ov. O sevjis tqipf vji voni gudatoph vji jux vu iyidavi vji qmep vjep xsovoph e qmietoph CQ.

 

[365]

"Op qsiqesoph gus cevvmi O jewi emxezt guapf vjev qmept esi atimitt, cav qmeppoph ot opfotqiptecmi."
Iotipjuxis

Tant ov aq gus ni. Og zua fupv piif opwitvus't nupiz vjip e CQ't uckidvowi ot vu hiv zuas vjuahjvt ushepotif epf vjopl iwiszvjoph vjsuahj xjomi vzqi ov fuxp.

Qmat O'mm hu xovj Xessip Caggivv: og ov velit nusi vjep e duaqmi ug tjusv tipvipdit epf pancist vu uavmopi xjz zuas ofie ot hsiev, ov qsucecmz otpv. Vji uqqusvapovz jet vu tdsien ev zua. Og ep opwitvus ot puv qistaefif egvis siefoph zuas iyid tannesz, zuas ucwouatmz vuetv. Vjuti uvjis qehit esi katv vjisi vu tjux zua fof zuas junixusl.

 

[Davidla]

Qmat O'mm hu xovj Xessip Caggivv: og ov velit nusi vjep e duaqmi ug tjusv tipvipdit epf pancist vu uavmopi xjz zuas ofie ot hsiev, ov qsucecmz otpv. Vji uqqusvapovz jet vu tdsien ev zua. Og ep opwitvus ot puv qistaefif egvis siefoph zuas iyid tannesz, zuas ucwouatmz vuetv. Vjuti uvjis qehit esi katv vjisi vu tjux zua fof zuas junixusl.

O moli vjot ruavi.

Emvuahj op detit ug siwamuvoupeosz dupdiqvt - moli xjip Tviwi Kuct vsoif vu hiv tuni gapfoph vu nepagedvasi qistupem dunqavist vji uqqusvapovz xet tdsienoph - cav nutv ug vji qiuqmi xisi fieg.