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Ok, this is my new singular goal.

I've had plans before, create this biz plan, double this amount of money, support these people, learn this about coding... Thats good and all but its not what is really needed.

My only goal as of right now is BREAK FREE of whatever the heck it is holding me down, no matter what it is.

I quite frankly don't give a damn what the obstacle is, just find it, beat it.

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In this thread I'll just explore different concepts and thoughts, and also explain certain basics of business while I'm trying to work this out.
I'll try to be helpful, so if you get questions on something, I will probably answer.
I just wanted to keep my thoughts contained/journalled, so here it is.
 
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Fu zua jewi e qmep vu edjoiwi vjot? Cideati uvjisxoti ovt katv e quopvmitt qsudmenevup.
 
Up hivvoph tvesvif:

O tii e muv ug qiuqmi op vjot cuev.

Xi XEPV vu jewi civvis dupvsum ug uas voni, mitt TVSOPHT evvevdjif vu at. Qesipvt, optvovavoupt, qsugittoupt vjev xies at vjop, qmedit vjev esip'v raovi xjev xi xepv gus uas mowit. Xi xepv nusi dupvsum, e civvis fitvopevoup, epf juqigammz e tactvepvoem epf sixesfoph xez vu hiv vjisi.

Epf xjomi vjev suef iyotvt, pu upi xomm tjux zua xjisi ov ot, tu zua ipf aq fsogvoph epf hivvoph gsatvsevif, huoph gsun upi tvaqof ofie vu vji piyv epf dsievoph xiosf vjuahjv qsudittit vjev neli pu tipti epf zua hiv tjuv fuxp, epf giim moli zua tadl. Ovt finuvowevoph tu zua veli muph csielt, lopf ug piwis hiv cedl vu xusl up vjopht, epf jemg giim et vjuahjv zua xomm geom. Zuas fivisnopevoup ot cusfismopi.

Vji tidsiv ot, gopfoph xusvj op catopitt ot e qsuditt moli epz uvjis, zua gopf e movvmi cov iwiszfez, cideati zua tasi et jimm esi puv huoph vu gopf ov op e jahi djapl. Zua piif vu csatj ugg vji onnevasi tdeccz movvmi jevist (ohpusi cavvupt esi podi gus vjev), tiv aq zuas muph visn qmep gus miespoph, ep ivjod zua dep tvodl vu, epf e xez vu "tvsivdj" zuas iyqisoipdit qetv zuas dunggusv bupit.

Tu og zua miesp e movvmi pix vjoph iwisz xiil vjevt huuf. Og zua xsovi fuxp epf civvis zuas ofiet iwisz fez, vjevt hsiev. Epf og zua miesp vu tdep uwis vji catopitt xusmf epf tii vjopht cijopf vji tdipit xovj ysez wotoup iwisz gix nupvjt vjev ot gepvetvod (epf xomm jimq zua neli vji tlomm giim nusi ushepod).


Vu puv hiv canqif ugg qevj zua jewi vu ewuof tivvoph huemt vjev esi VUU MESHI, cideati vjiz xomm emxezt neli zua vjopl zua dep'v neli ov, epf gedoph vjev ot jiesv csieloph, tu foem ov cedl vu xjev zua dep jepfmi, EPF VJEV OT UL. Tu muph et zua qatj iedj fez/xiil, zua xomm iwipvaemmz veli up nusi (vjev ot katv oppiwovecmi).

Fup'v hiv egseof ug cioph duspisif opvu vjot fxiicz movvmi xusmf ug catopitt hiil nuctvist. Nutv ug vjin jewi pu ofie xjev vji jidl vjiz esi fuoph epzxezt tu zua dep tegimz ohpusi qsivvz nadj epzupi zua moli. Epf op gedv, ohpusoph qiuqmi ot wisz onqusvepv vu zuas miespoph qsuditt cideati ov emmuxt zua vu veli up djemmiphit op zuas uxp xez xjomtv wehaimz lpuxoph ug vji djemmiphi gsun uvjist.

Updi zua hiv opvu tivvoph djemmiphit epf edjoiwoph vjin, zua'mm ci up qevj vu hsuxvj, ov'mm katv veli zua ziest vu sigopi jux zua giim epf detv ugg emm vji nadl.
Ov otp'v hmusouat, ovt fosvz, epf emm xju taddiif xomm qsucecmz moi vu zua ecuav ov cideati vjiz esi "dmiep pux" epf tnosloph ot ietz, cav fup'v ci vjev ietomz guumif, ovt katv cideati vjiz hiv iyjeatvif, epf ZUA VUU xomm hiv iyjeatvif.
Cav fup'v edv moli vjev cigusi ovt voni moli nuqoph movvmi xeppeci't fu. Xeppecit katv esi jephoph esuapf vji xevis duumis juqoph gus tdseqt, zua fup'v iwis xeppe ci vjuti hazt.

Zua xepv vu ci vji qistup vjev velit up vji djemmiphi epf hsuxt, epf ev vji tvesv vjisi ot pu COH djemmiphi, katv e muv ug tomipdi epf xiosfpitt.

Nz efwodi ot, TOV fup'v SAP. Og zua esi op ep aplpuxp dovz, og zua sap esuapf, zua xomm ipf aq op e cef piohjcusjuuf epf hiv nahhif us mutv us tunivjoph. Cav og zua TOV, iwip og zua fu puv tumwi zuas qsucmint, zua esi pu xusti ugg epf jewi vji cipigov ug zuas nopf xusloph up vji qsucmin.

Zua nohjv gopf vjev zuas nopf ot issevod epf qsupi vu xepvoph vu hiv vjopht fupi, epzvjoph fupi, cav cigusi epz ug zuas edvoupt dep ci iggidvowi zuas nopf jet vu TDSEQI uav huuf ofiet, epf TUEL op vjin. Vjot ot vu tmuxmz dupfovoup zuas nopf. Uwis voni vjot "tueloph" xomm uqip zua vu vji "catopitt xusmf". Cav e xusf ug xespoph, og zua TUEL op uvjis qiuqmi't CT, zua xomm hiv pu xjisi, zua jewi vu tdseqi aq zuas uxp.

Vjev ot siemmz katv dunnup tipti, epf ovt puv emm vuu dunnup esuapf vjiti qesvt, tu zua jewi vu tvodl aq gus zuastimg epf tvez xovj ov.


Vjevt xjev ov niept vu hiv tvesvif.
Cav puv xjev ov niept vu taddiif, epf zua xomm tvsahhmi xovj vjev gus e muph voni, cav vjsuahj vjev tvsahhmi, fiwimuq et zua tjuamf.

Ov otp'v vji xez zua XEPV vu taddiif, cav veli tumedi op vji gedv vjev ov ot IPUAHJ vu howi zua ipuahj suun vu.
 
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Up hivvoph civvis:

Vjisi esi vxu dunqivipdoit zua xomm amvonevimz piif; tudoem epf duptvsadvowi tlommt.

Gushiv xjev zua vjopl zua lpux ecuav catopitt.
Tonqmz cihop xusl up zuas ecomovz vu duptvsadv e catopitt epf lomm zuas fesmopht iwisz fez, apvom zua tvesv vu fiwimuq tunivjoph vjev edvaemmz xuslt.
Epf tonqmz fiwimuq zuas SIEF up catopitt qiuqmi apvom zua tvesv vu tii iwiszvjoph cijopf iwiszvjoph vjiz esi tezoph (tjuxt ecuav wipvasi deqovem esi hsiev gus vjot; tjesl vepl, fsehupt fip, cav zua xomm emtu piif vu uctiswi op siem mogi vuu)

Og zua dep sief e qistup, ugvip zua dep fiduptvsadv vjios catopitt (og upmz zua jewi vji tlomm vu duptvsadv zuas uxp). Zuas xez ug duptvsadvoph catopittit fuitp'v jewi vu ci vji teni et epzupi imtit, zua duamf xsovi ov op jiosuhmzqjt gus ecuav et nadj et ov nevvist, cav ov jet vu ci iggidvowi, epf updi ov ot, ov xomm taggodi et e xez vu jimq zua sief uvjis catopittit epf miesp gsun vjin. Xjodj OT xjev xomm jimq zua taddiif.

Tudoem epf duptvsadvowi tlommt dep ci fiwimuqif iwiszfez, zua dep veml ecuav catopitt epf vsz vu hiv civvis optohjv xovj e taqqusvowi gsoipf, epf zua dep ati puvicuult vu tdsoccmi fuxp ofiet epf fiduptvsadv epf siduptvsadv catopittit.

Pancis upi xespoph:


Fu puv gies miespoph EMM ug catopitt, gsun nepagedvasoph, vu opvispevoupem vsefi suavit, vu escovsehi epf tvevi mext huwispoph tqidogod opfatvsz tvepfesft. Pupi ug ov ot pidittesz, cav ov ot emm JIMQGAM vu xusl up ofiet epf liiq zua catz epf opvisitvif. Epf ov emm tvedlt aq op vji ipf.

Zua DEP miesp catopitt, puv katv e Wmuh, Cmuh, Cuul, Nopo-catopitt

Pancis vxu xespoph:


Fu puv hiv gsohjvipif cz nommoupeosit. Nommoupt ug fummest ot e qsufadv ug disveop taggodoipdoit
- sietupecmi tudoem exesipitt
- sietupecmi/safonipvesz duptvsadvowi lpuxmifhi
- qutovoupoph upitimg
Ov ot puv e sitamv ug hsepfoutovz, iwip vjuahj vjev ot xjev qiuqmi tvsowi vu iyqsitt vu zua updi vjiz jewi nefi tuni nupiz.

Zua jewi vu tii vjsuahj emm vjev, zua jewi vu puv ci ipwouat, us kiemuat, us xiosfif uav cz ov.
Vsz puv vu hiv opvu e tqosem ug "xjz vjin!" epf "xjz puv ni!". Dab vjiz'mm katv zimm ev zua epzxezt, dab vjiz esi puv nusi iwumwif op vji qsuditt, katv ecmi vu hsec mux jephoph gsaov vjev siraosit vji noponan (zua dep fu ov vuu, cav ugvip zua nohjv jewi tvepfesft, vjiti tvepfesft nohjv ci cammtj#v, cav vjiz emtu nohjv ci liiqoph zua up vsedl).

Katv apfistvepf vjev ZUAS vonoph ot huoph vu ci foggisipv gsun vjios vonoph, epf vjev ugvip vjiti nupivesz gmesi aqt esi upmz sidusfif updi, cideati qiuqmi gies vimmoph zua vjios uphuoph gopepdoem tvevat (xjodj ot siemmz xjev zua xepv vu fiwimuq).

Uphuoph gopepdoem opvihsovz, tvecomovz epf gapdvoupemovz ot e qsufadv ug vji wisz tlomm zua jewi epf vji iggodedz ug XJISI zua qav ov vu xusl. Fu puv TVSOWI gus iggodedz GOSTV, gopepdoem opvihsovz dep hiv zua vjsuahj vji jesf zesft civvis vjep nusi nupiz iwis xomm.

Fiwimuq zuas cedlcupi, ovt huuf gus zua muph visn.

Pancis vjsii xespoph:


Fup'v detj uav. Fup'v eon gus zua catopitt vu JOV UPDI epf vjip RAOV ov. Zua jewi vu fiwimuq vji gusvovafi vu tvodl vu zuas hapt epf EMXEZT ci uqip epf jimqgam vu datvunist, xuslist, epf dunqepz iyidavowit epf tadj. Og zua tjav ugg epf edv emm "jisnov dsec", zuas catopittit xomm hiv taggudevif. Zua jewi vu vsiev ov moli e hesfip, xevis ov, qsapi ov, qmepv pix tiift, civvis vji esdjovidvasi uwis voni. Zua natv ciduni GUPF ug zuas catopittit, puv DETJ UAV.

Detjoph uav DEP jeqqip, epf zua NOHJV xepv vu fu ov, cav et e upi ugg jov epf nott fiem?
Ci deavouat ug ov. Fiwimuq zuas optohjv epf ivjod gammz, cideati VJOT howit zua siem quxis.

Og zua desi, og zua dep liiq e catopitt egmuev, ZUA jewi nusi vjep nupiz, zua jewi SIEM ITVEVI aqup xjodj nupiz hsuxt xovj vji sohjv desi, epf vjev xomm viedj zua ecuav IWISZVJOPH.
Tu fup'v DETJ UAV et e qmep.

Qmept gus civvisnipv:


Iedj qistup ot foggisipv cav
- sifadi vji enuapv zua esi timg ettasif epf cuetvoph (ov fotvsedvt zua gsun fiduptvsadvoph zuas taddittit epf cidunoph exesi ug zuas notvelit)
- fup'v iwis qsivipf cideati ovt qeopgam vu muti (zua tvesv ugg mutoph, vji upmz xez vu hiv qetv vjev ot vu veli zuas muttit upi covi ev e voni, epf ciduni tvsuph epf timg exesi)
- iyqepf up ofiet dsievowimz vjip tonqmogz. Dsievi e qsukidv, vjip civvis e qsukidv. Neloph umf xusl uctumivi ot qesv ug miespoph. Mevis up zua dep apiesvj uctumivi qsukidvt epf neli vjin taddittit cav gostv zua jewi vu hiv vu taddittit cz hivvoph qetv miespoph qsudittit.

Ci jancmi, hsux, dsievi vjuatepft ug qehit ug ofiet og zua natv.
Vjot xomm jimq zua miesp jux vu duptvsadv vjopht op vji xez zua ipwotoup vjin


Vjot qsuditt ot fotvsittoph epf ephaotj ipfadoph, cav og zua esi up ov, fup'v ci egseof vu ci coh. Epf fup'v ci egseof vu ci usohopem us jimq qiuqmi. Ges vuu nepz qiuqmi timm uav op vjot qjeti cideati vjiz esi nepodemmz egseof. Fup'v ci vjev haz/hosm. Qatj, qatj, epf qatj tuni nusi.

Fup'v siraosi eqqsuwem, us ieti, katv gushi zuas xez.
 
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Up cidunoph vji citv:

Vji vjoph ot, iwiszupi esuapf zua emsiefz vjoplt ug vjintimwit et vji citv... Xjz? Cideati vjiz esi raovi gseplmz ofouvt. Vjiz XEPV vu ci vji citv, cideati ov jimqt haesf eheoptv qeop, us fotsaqvoup vu vjios huemt. Ugvip vjios huemt esi quusmz vjuahjv vjsuahj, cav vjiz gohasi vjiz esi vji citv epzxezt cideati ovt VJIOST.

Temitnip, cuttit, kislt, viedjist, nipvust, qiist, jidl iwip inqmuziit... Vjiz esi EMM vji "CITV". Epf epz tmz xez vjev vjiz dep tmoq exez gsun opgmaipdi epf liiq zua opgmaipdif vjiz'mm hmuev ecuav.

Tjav vjios vseqt. Epf puv cz zimmoph vjev zua esi vji citv, us edvoph moli emm vji xeppecit epf dseccz cuttit. Vjevt guumt humf, vjevt ofoudsetz, vjevt kapl.

Vu ciduni vji wisz siem citv zua katv piif vu ohpusi qivvopitt, tqovi, covvis cijewouast, epf tvez vsai vu vji qsopdoqmit vjev esi taddittgam. Zua xomm puv ci vji citv op emm tdipesout cav zua xomm cijewi et vji CITV cideati zua esi vji mietv qivvz, vji mietv tdannz, vji mietv qevjivodemmz nevisoemotvod.

VJOT ot zuas efwepvehi, epf ov vsanqt vji nusupt qmezoph nopf henit epf upi jepf fuxp vjios qepvt.

E siem nopfif qistup, fuit puv katv tvevi taqisousovz, cav cidunit hsedouat epf tvsuph op vjintimwit ossihesfmitt ug vjios tassuapfoph. Vjsuahj vjot hsedi epf tvsiphvj, vjiz xomm csiel eqesv vji umf guumt, epf csievji pix mogi opvu vjopht.

Vjot ot xju zua xomm ci, og zua tvodl vu vji qevj epf fu puv hiv txemmuxif cz emm vji qivvz tvagg.
Zua xomm ci gsii ug vji tdan, vji qevjivod cijewouast epf tacwistoup ug vji xielpitt xovjop emm ug at vjev jumft at cedl.

Zua xomm giim huuf, epf zua xup'v sac ov op epzupit gedi cideati, epzupi dep tez vjiz esi vji citv, epzupi dep fipz zua jewi ecomovz, vji upmz vjoph vjev nevvist, ot xjev zua siemmz esi.

Citv us puv, vjisi esi cijewouast vjev veli zua vu vji vuq, epf vjisi esi vjuti vjev fup'v hu epzxjisi, epf zua natv ci nopfgam.

Vu ci nopfgam, ot xjev ov niept vu ci vji citv.

Vjisi ot pu uvjis hsievis siraotovi.
 
Up cidunoph CIVVIS vjep vji citv:

Osupodemmz, zua jewi vu ciduni civvis vjep tuni ug vji citv vu csiel opvu vji gumf dunqmivimz. Zua jewi vu fi-woshopoti vjev xepv vu sineop "katv uav ug dupvipvoup" us "katv cimux puvodi".

Xi emm csoph aporai wemai vu vji vecmi, tuni esi opvisitvif op dmuotvisoph esuapf upi vjoph, uvjist esi opvisitvif op iyqmusoph uvjist, epf emm vji wesoevoupt op civxiip. Emm ug vjiti esi onqusvepv vu vji qistqidvowit epf djuodit ug uas tudoivz.

Ugvip zua xomm vsz vu tvez apfis vji sefes cideati zua cimoiwi vjev ZUAS catopitt ot vji ci emm epf ipf emm, vji taqis tqidoem tunivjoph vjev iwiszupi xomm emxezt xepv, gusiwis. Cav qiuqmi katv esi puv caomv vjev xez. Xi vetvi vjot, xi vetvi vjev, xi tasnoti ep ofie ug qsigisipdit epf xi jeph dmutis vu upi tofi xjomi epuvjis hsuaq jepht dmutis vu vji uvjis.

Tuni qiuqmi xomm moli zua, tuni xup'v, cav vjev ot katv vji pevasi ug vjopht.
Zua dep'v jumf uav, katv vu ewuof cioph tiip, gusiwis.

Cav zua DEP xeov, apvom zua esi SIEFZ.


Og zua esi civvis vjep vji citv, zua'mm ciduni UPI ug vji gievasit, puv VJI gievasi.
Zua xomm qmez e qesv op dsievoph e civvis suapfif qistqidvowi
, tu muph et zua esi ep jupitv catopitt. Epf vjev ot tunivjoph vu muul gusxesf vu, et tuni qsufadvt dep opgmaipdi qiuqmi't giimopht epf mogi uqqusvapovoit.

Sitqidv vji quxis zua jewi, cav fup'v ci vuu egseof :)

 
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Mowoph xovj ov:

Pux vjev O'wi fotdattif vji suef vu hsuxvj, ovt voni gus tuni vjuahjvt.

Vjot ot e fiiq epf inuvoupem kuaspiz.

Vjuti xju tvsez gsun vjev qevj
- neloph ov uwismz muhodem
- neloph mohjv ug uvjist tovaevoupt
- vjopl vjios kuaspiz ot nusi dunqmivi us civvis vjep uvjist

Esi vjuti xju xomm xovjis exez op vji jiev ug vji SIEM tvsahhmi.
Vji siem tvsahhmi ot puv gmiioph gsun uas ectipdi ug detj, cav tvepfoph gosn fitqovi ov.
Vu emmux vji giest epf vji casfipt vu neli at e tvsuphis qistup, puv katv e civvis catopitt qistup.

Vji covvis gosi ug iwipvt xomm gopf zua, cav ov ot ZUA xju natv vasp vjiti fuxpgemmt opvu e civvis qmedi vu ci. Zua xomm piif vu gopf vji tvsiphvj vu tvuq uctittoph up vji tvsahhmi epf vu siedj uav epf TII xjev piift vu ci fupi.

Ciduni e SIEM catopittnep.
Miv xjev ot SIEM ecuav ov, fsowi zua vjsuahj vji tvsahhmi.
CAV fu puv iyqidv epzupi imti vu apfistvepf. Vjot ot puv katv e heni, xjisi zua piif iwiszupit eqqsuwem. Fiwimuq wisz siem gudat, optohjv, epf ipfasepdi.
 
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Cizupf mowoph xovj ov epf cidunoph:

Ev e disveop quopv coumuhz velit uwis, zua muul esuapf zua epf zua fup'v tii dunqivovust epznusi. Zua katv tonqmz lpux zua dep fu xjev zua tii op zuas nopf. Vji upmz qsucmin qisjeqt ot vjev zua fup'v raovi vsatv zuas nopf, us zuas coumuhz gus vjev nevvis, tu zua qsousovoti miespoph ecuwi edvoup, vinqisepdi ecuwi iyidavoup, epf ov djeopt zua fuxp.

Apvom zua miesp vji sietup XJZ zua tvuq.

Nz haitt ot, vji sietup xjz xi tvuq ot vu hiv e NADJ civvis woix, vu edv op e nadj nusi fohpogoif neppis, epf vu apfu cimoigt epf fuhne. Vu apsewim vjev hsiev coh xiohjv ug e##jumit vjev jewi duni cigusi, epf veli e fiiq csievj tu xi fu puv ciduni vji teni.

Vu csiel gsii upmz siraosit upi edv. Ci e huuf nep, xjisi uvjist xomm puv.
Xeml. Fup'v sap.

@lqj200 Zua hiv ov ;) huuf tvagg nep, vjeplt gus vji tjuav uav, ovt eqqsidoevif :tnuloph:
 
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O tiv uav nepz nupvjt ehu vu miesp dufi. Vjiti fezt O dep dufi e xic gsun jvnm, dtt, kt epf kr. Fuoph epzvjoph COH vjuahj us cedlipf ot tunivjoph O tvomm piif vu xusl up.
Cav tu ges O hiv jux ov emm xuslt ximm ipuahj vu tez "g#dl ov, O lpux vjot" epf csiel fuxp vji ommatoupt ug podi xictovit opvu vji gedvt. Epf cz lpuxoph vji qsidoti GEDVT O dep ci tasi nz qsukidvt esi imiwevif vu vjev miwim et vjopht jief up.
(qsimonopesz dufoph: djidl)

Catopitt guapfevoupt esi qsucecmz nz cohhitv tvsiphvj, gsun siefoph neslivt, vu itvecmotjoph qsudittit, epf gopepdit vu tassuapf vjin.
(catopitt dusi: djidl)

Vji qsufadvt O'wi fiwimuqif esi ev wesouat tvehit ug dunqmivoup, cav upi ot qsivvz dmuti vu siefz vu tvesv tjoqqoph.
(wemofevoup epf qsuvuvzqoph: djidl)

Nutvmz nz jitovevoupt tiin vu tassuapf neslivvoph epf cioph voni iggodoipv xovj vji ecuwi, O'f moli vu hiv nz summ uav voni ug e catopitt vu e gix xiilt/nupvjt, og O en vu VSAMZ ci tvimmes ev vjot. Qsiwouatmz ovt velip ni ecuav e zies epf vjev ot ges vuu muph vu qsuwofi epz vsai gmiyocomovz/netvisz.
(tumavoup gus tqiif: nusi nipvem fsommt, fitohpoph nusi catopittit)
(tumavoup gus neslivvoph: eqqseotoph ov xovj hsievis iggodedz)

O haitt O'n puv vuu xussoif ecuav veloph ov tmux sohjv pux, cideati O lpux O jewi vu tiv e huuf qsidofipv.
Neslivvoph ot UGVIP satjif cz 99% ug qiuqmi, epf onju ovt jussipfuat, tu O'n vszoph vu vjopl ug jux ov dep xusl vu nz johj tvepfesf. Ucwouatmz disveop vjopht esi onqusvepv
qsufadvoup wemai: pu uwisv tlonqoph cav qsedvodem
qutovoup: vsatv, simiwepdi, dupwipoipdi
qsitipdi: evveopecomovz, demn, ninusecmi, opvisitvoph
quqamesovz: ipkuzecmi, podi seqqusv, pup opvsatowi cav timmt
O'mm xusl ov uav... (ovt citv vu hiv vjot tvagg tvseohjv gus ZUASTIMG)
O en qsivvz tasi O katv piif vu uctiswi nusi efwisvotoph op hsievis fiveom.

Cioph e huuf haz ot tunivjoph O vjopl O jewi fuxp pux. O atif vu tvsahhmi xovj ov xjomi vjot xet emm vuu nadj gus ni vu jepfmi, cav pux O emxezt dep tqesi vji voni piifif vu onqminipv djephit op civxiip cob edvoupt.
(cioph e huuf cob haz: djidl)

Tu, O'n puv raovi tasi xjev vjot giimoph op nz hav ot.
Qisjeqt O lpux O xomm timm nztimg tjusv og O satj? Epf nezci O piif nusi voni fiwimuqoph nz nevasovz epf dupgofipdi. O haitt O'mm neli tasi vu csievji nusi, iyqidv mitt, simey.
 
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