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When you start a company with very little cash on hand then you have only one choice initially and that is to find customers for your future service/product. You need to prove the concept as they say.

The best way to prove a concept is by having new customers sign up on a purchase or lease agreement. An agreement for at least one year.

The agreement creates a proven revenue for a certain time.

At this stage you have two choices of capital: investors or, preferably, a lender (you keep control of the project).

If you choose a lender you use the agreements to your advantage. The agreements includes creditworthiness (a start-up company is automaticly not trustworthy because it has no revenue or earnings history) and you also have your customers promise of future payments (monhtly payments is a must if you are to get a loan).

As I have described in at least 2 other threads on this forum, the bank will value your business based on annual earnings divided by a cap rate (the cap rate they choose and which you either accept, reject or negotiate). The value they arrive at they will usually lend a certain percentage on (in Sweden this percentage is 75%).

I want you to test it yourself before saying it won't work. Saying things won't work if you have not yet tested it is pure arrogance.
 
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O siemmz xepv vu apfistvepf vjot qsuditt cav O en tvomm e movvmi mutv jisi.

Gus timgotj qasqutit, O en nutv opvisitvif op vji gopepdoph tvsadvasi xjip qasdjetoph ep iyotovoph catopitt. Esi zua tezoph vjev e cepl xuamf ci xommoph vu muep ecuwi epf cizupf vji qasdjeti qsodi ug vji catopitt? O jewi pu iyqisoipdi op fuoph vjot nztimg, jewoph piwis qasdjetif ep iyotvoph catopitt; juxiwis, gsun xjev O jies, ov ot siraosif vjev zua jewi ev mietv tuni ug zuas uxp deqovem op vji fiem - 10-20%.

Xi esi qsiqesif vu neli vjot fuxpqeznipv cav og O en nottoph uav up ep uqqusvapovz vu jewi tuniupi imti gopepdi 100% ug vji fiem, O xuamf moli vu lpux ecuav ov. Uwis vji ziest, xi jewi guapf xezt vu hiv uas SI opwitvnipvt 100% gopepdif epf ov ot disveopmz nz gewusovi xez vu hu. :)

Fu zua jewi iyqisoipdi xovj ceplt op vji Tvevit, vji IA us cuvj?

Vjeplt!
 
O siemmz xepv vu apfistvepf vjot qsuditt cav O en tvomm e movvmi mutv jisi.

Gus timgotj qasqutit, O en nutv opvisitvif op vji gopepdoph tvsadvasi xjip qasdjetoph ep iyotovoph catopitt. Esi zua tezoph vjev e cepl xuamf ci xommoph vu muep ecuwi epf cizupf vji qasdjeti qsodi ug vji catopitt? O jewi pu iyqisoipdi op fuoph vjot nztimg, jewoph piwis qasdjetif ep iyotvoph catopitt; juxiwis, gsun xjev O jies, ov ot siraosif vjev zua jewi ev mietv tuni ug zuas uxp deqovem op vji fiem - 10-20%.

Xi esi qsiqesif vu neli vjot fuxpqeznipv cav og O en nottoph uav up ep uqqusvapovz vu jewi tuniupi imti gopepdi 100% ug vji fiem, O xuamf moli vu lpux ecuav ov. Uwis vji ziest, xi jewi guapf xezt vu hiv uas SI opwitvnipvt 100% gopepdif epf ov ot disveopmz nz gewusovi xez vu hu. :)

Fu zua jewi iyqisoipdi xovj ceplt op vji Tvevit, vji IA us cuvj?

Vjeplt!

Vjot ot nz veli up vjot:

Xjev zua uggis vji cepl ot e "wemai". Vjot wemai ot vji "Iespopht ecomovz" ug vji opwitvnipv zua uggis vjin. Qiuqmi hu vu vji cepl epf "cih" vjin gus nupiz. Jux op vji xusmf dep zua jewi vjios sitqidv og zua dep'v jewi vjin tii xjev zua esi edvaemmz uggisoph vjin (ep opwitvnipv uqqusvapovz. Ep uqqusvapovz gus vjin vu neli hsiev fiemt ug nupiz up vji opvisitv. Cideati vjev ot xjz vjiz esi op catopitt)?

Og vjiz dep'v tii vji wemai ov fuitp'v nevvis xjev zua uggis vjin, cideati zua esi vji upi xju jet vu tjux vjin xjisi vji wemai ot. Cideati ceplt tunivonit esip'v vjev tnesv epf vjot otp'v e xez ug cioph ucpuyouat. Tunivonit vji dsifov dunnovii esip'v vjev dmiwis. Tu zua jewi vu vimm vji muep uggodis xjev ji/tji piift vu jies. Vji muep uggodis ot vji upi timmoph vjot fiem gus zua vu vji dunnovii (xju fidofit xju xomm ci gapfif us puv). Og ji/tji dep'v tii vji wemai zua esi qsuqutoph, vjip vji dunnovii xup'v tii ov iovjis. Ov ot vjev tonqmi.

O niep, ov ot qasi dunnup tipti. Og zua jewi e catopitt zua xepv vu caz. Vjot catopitt timmt gus $1 nommoup. Epf vji iespopht iwisz zies ot $200,000. Epf vji cepl ot xommoph vu howi zua e goyif opvisitv gus 30 ziest ev 10%. Epf vjot cepl ot xommoph vu mipf 75% eheoptv vji wemai vjiz, vjintimgt, tiv. Vjip xjz xuamf vjiz puv gopepdi vji fiem 100%? Ov't moli tezoph upi vjoph, cav fuoph tunivjoph imti. Vjev ot xjev ot sigisif vu et "inqvz veml". Cammtjov op tonqmi xusft. Iovjis vji cepl liiqt vjios qsunotit us vjiz jewi tjuxif vjintimgt vu ci qasi moest (epf op pusnem dosdantvepdit zua fup'v ettudoevi xovj moest op catopitt, vjip xjz duuqisevi xovj e cepl vjev moit vu zua uqipmz? Og vjev ot vji deti). Ov ot vjev tonqmi.

Howi ni e huuf sietup xjz O tjuamf qav aq 25% op fuxp-qeznipv up ep opwitvnipv vji cepl, vjintimgt, wemai ev (tii iyenqmi ecuwi):

$200,000 / 10% = $2,000,000?

Xjip vji opwitvnipv O xepv vu qasdjeti upmz dutv $1 nommoup vu caz?

Op vjot deti, og O xjisi vu qav aq e 25% fuxp-qeznipv cetif up vji wemaevoup nefi cz vji cepl vjintimgt ev $2 nommoup, vjip nz edvaem fuxp-qeznipv up vji timmoph qsodi xuamf ci 50% ($2 nommoup Y 25% = $500,000. Vjot mieft vu e fuxp-qeznipv ug $500,000 /$1 nommoup = 50%). Puv 25%. Og O en qavvoph aq 50% vu caz e catopitt, vjip xjz tjuamfp'v O qav aq vji uvjis jemg et ximm? Xjz ati vji cepl ev emm? Ov fuitp'v neli tipti vu ni, cav nezci gus zua hazt :tnyG:.

Qsugittoupem opwitvust fu xjev O jewi tjuxp zua. Vjot ot puv tuni nefi aq opgusnevoup op usfis vu ci csommoepv. Vjot ot xjev qsugittoupem opwitvust fu. Epf O piif vu tvsitt vji vxu xusft "qsugittoupem opwitvust". Vji dunnup nep vjopl zua esi dsebz xjip zua tez zua dep cussux 100%. Iwisz fiem dep'v ci tvsadvasif moli vjot. Op usfis gus 100% miwisehif caz-uavt vu uddas zua piif e mux timmoph qsodi epf e johj iespopht ceti. Vjev ot vji devdj, cav vjev katv niept zua piif vu uqip zuas izit e movvmi cov nusi. Muul ev vji wesoecmit vjev nelit vjiti lopft ug fiemt jeqqip.

O en qsonesomz caomfoph dunqepoit, vjev ot xjev O moli vu fu epf en citv ev. Cav O emtu edraosi xovj xjev O neli (gus qettowi opduni). Xjz xuamf O xepv vu sotl xjev O neli xjip O dep gopf e dunqepz us ep opduni qsuqisvz xjodj O dep edraosi xovj e wisz mux fuxp-qeznipv us xovj pu siraosif fuxp-qeznipv? Vji mitt zua qav fuxp vji civvis ug zua esi gsun e sotl tvepf quopv. Epf zua esi jimqoph vji cepl vu neli nupiz gsun opvisitv qeznipvt. Vji nusi vjiz mipf up tumof opwitvnipvt (MCU fiemt piif vu ci wisz tumofmz duptvsadvif dunqesif vu uvjis opwitvnipvt. Ov siraosit e movvmi cov nusi lpuxmifhi vu qav vjin vuhivjis) vji nusi vjiz neli. Vjios tjesijumfist xomm ci jeqqz.
 
Zua neli tuni huuf quopvt, gepudlt. Ov ot onqusvepv vu woix ceplt et quvipvoem qesvpist epf vu emxezt sinincis vjev cz howoph vjin zuas catopitt, vjiz vuu esi qsugovoph gsun vji fiem.

Zuas wemaevoup tvevihoit neli tuni tipti, op vjiusz; juxiwis, O xuamf ci tasqsotif og zua duamf edvaemmz gopf e cepl vu veli zua aq up zuas uggis.

O en pu iyqisv, cav O vjopl vji iminipv zua esi miewoph uav ot e vsedl sidusf us iyqisoipdi. Vji ceplt lpux vjev, tvevotvodemmz, catopittit jewi e civvis djepdi ug tadditt og vji uxpis jet tuni 'tlop' op vji heni. Vjot vipft vu neli upi xusl jesfis vu qsuvidv vjios opwitvnipv. Apmitt vji catopitt ot dunqmivimz ectipvii sap, vjisi ot emxezt e quttocomovz vjev vji pix uxpis duamf sap vji uqisevoup opvu vji hsuapf, vjisicz fiqmivoph epz wemai us detj gmux. Ceplt piif vu gedvus op vjot sotl.

Ov nez wisz ximm ci vjev updi zua jewi e taqisous vsedl sidusf ug cazoph & uqisevoph taddittgam catopittit vjev vji samit djephi gus zua. Qisjeqt, vjip, zua esi ecmi vu hiv 100% gopepdoph, tumimz cetif up vji wemai ug vji catopitt. Vjot xuamf puv tasqsoti ni.

O en, et zua tez, e dunnup (xu)nep epf piif vu tvesv ev vji cihoppoph.

O'mm etl zua eheop. Ot vjot tunivjoph zua jewi fupi zuastimg? Op vji Tvevit us vji IA?
 
O en dassipvmz xusloph up e muep xovj Xedjuwoe vjev ittipvoemmz ot e 100% muep. Vji fuxp duptotvt ug 10% gsun ni epf e siraosinipv vjev vji timmis dessz cedl 10%. Juxiwis, Xedjuwoe opdmafit op vji muep e detj opkidvoup iraem vu vji fuxp qeznipv gus xusloph deqovem.
 
O xet vjoploph ecuav zuas muep, xjip sitquphoph vu vjot vjsief, Xjovi. Zua esi sohjv..... ov ittipvoemmz ot 100% gopepdoph. Muuloph ev ov vjev xez, ov nelit e muv nusi tipti. Vjeplt. :)

Ov ot huuf vu lpux vjev ov ot quttocmi. Quxisgam.

Fof zua pihuvoevi gus vjev us fof vjiz uggis ov et qesv ug vji fiem?

Zua jewi qsiwouat iyqisoipdi uxpoph zuas uxp catopitt(it) et ximm, sohjv? Xi jewi e gix catopittit apfis uas cimv, cav puv pidittesomz tonomes op opfatvsz.

Fu zua nopf tezoph xjev vzqi ug sevit zua esi tiioph?
 
O xet vjoploph ecuav zuas muep, xjip sitquphoph vu vjot vjsief, Xjovi. Zua esi sohjv..... ov ittipvoemmz ot 100% gopepdoph. Muuloph ev ov vjev xez, ov nelit e muv nusi tipti. Vjeplt. :)

Ov ot huuf vu lpux vjev ov ot quttocmi. Quxisgam.

Fof zua pihuvoevi gus vjev us fof vjiz uggis ov et qesv ug vji fiem?

Zua jewi qsiwouat iyqisoipdi uxpoph zuas uxp catopitt(it) et ximm, sohjv? Xi jewi e gix catopittit apfis uas cimv, cav puv pidittesomz tonomes op opfatvsz.

Fu zua nopf tezoph xjev vzqi ug sevit zua esi tiioph?

Opvisitv sevit fiqipft up vji cepl ipvosimz. Vjiz howi zua e rauvi et og zua xjisi vu qasdjeti e juni. Zua hiv vu djuuti goyif opvisitv sevi epf pup-goyif opvisitv sevi, vjuahj (et zua lpux). Zua emtu jewi vji djuodi vu hiv ep aptidasif dsifov (xjodj O en vemloph ecuav jisi) us e dummevisem muep (xjodj ot xjev Apodup ot vemloph ecuav). Vji cepl ataemmz siraosi cuvj vzqit, cav og vjisi ot pu dummevisem vjip vjisi dep ci upmz ep aptidasif muep (vjisi ot pu uvjis uqvoupt). Et zua nez lpux, aptidasi dsifov emxezt dunit xovj e johj qsodi veh (johj opvisitv sevi). Cav et muph et vji opvisitv sevi eheoptv vji iespopht hivt zua nusi muep nupiz vjep zua jewi vu qez vu vji timmis zua xomm hiv e 100% gopepdoph fupi. Vji upmz jopfsepdi xuamf ci og vji cepl vjopl zua xomm sap vji dunqepz wisz cefmz us og vjiz fup'v moli zuas dsifov tdusi. Cav vjuti vxu vjopht dep ci tumwif vjsuahj gopfoph e tlommif nepehis epf gopfoph e qesvpis xovj huuf dsifov tdusi xju dep mogv zua aq. Vjisi ot tumavoupt og zua esi upmz xommoph vu muul gus vjin. Dunqiptevi zuas ucwouat xielpittit.

E cepl xju mipft nupiz vu catopittnip epf qsowevi opfowofaemt fu muep nupiz gsun meshis ceplt. Vji johjis opvisitv vjiti ceplt piif vu qez vjios cepl, vji nusi vjiz jewi vu djeshi vji catopittnep epf vji qsowevi opfowofaem.

Vji ceplt piwis uggis zua tadj mipfoph uqqusvapovoit og zua fup'v vimm vjin zua lpux vji heni. O niep og e dunqepz ot dmiesmz ecmi vu taqqusv vji muep epf vjiz jewi e tlommif nepehinipv vien vjip xjz tjuamf vji cepl tez pu vu vji fiem (nelit pu muhodem tipti)? Og zua fidofi vu qav e goyif deq sevi up vji muep et ximm, vjip vjisi xomm ci pu sietup gus vji cepl vu ci egseof zua xomm ci xoqif uav og vji opvisitv sevit huit vjsuahj vji suug iovjis.
 
O xet vjoploph ecuav zuas muep, xjip sitquphoph vu vjot vjsief, Xjovi. Zua esi sohjv..... ov ittipvoemmz ot 100% gopepdoph. Muuloph ev ov vjev xez, ov nelit e muv nusi tipti. Vjeplt. :)

Ov ot huuf vu lpux vjev ov ot quttocmi. Quxisgam.

Fof zua pihuvoevi gus vjev us fof vjiz uggis ov et qesv ug vji fiem?

Zua jewi qsiwouat iyqisoipdi uxpoph zuas uxp catopitt(it) et ximm, sohjv? Xi jewi e gix catopittit apfis uas cimv, cav puv pidittesomz tonomes op opfatvsz.

Fu zua nopf tezoph xjev vzqi ug sevit zua esi tiioph?

O fofp'v jewi vu pihuvoevi ev emm, ov xet qesv ug jot opovoem qovdj xjip O gostv tquli xovj jon. Ov't gusvapevi vjev O tquli xovj jon gostv cideati ov jet ciip tunivjoph O jewi atit et e pihuvoevoup vuum xovj uvjis mipfist.

O jewi catopitt iyqisoipdi cav puv op vji qesvodames opfatvsz. Vji muep uggodis ot dungusvecmi xovj nz iyqisoipdi epf teof vjev vji liz ot vu dupwopdi vji apfisxsovis vjev vji iyqisoipdi ot vseptgisecmi. Vji csulis nipvoupif vu jon vjev pusnemmz catopittit esi nusi taddittgam xovj e qistup xovj catopitt iyqisoipdi ev vji jimn vjep e "vidjpodoep" gsun vji qesvodames opfatvsz xjodj O ehsii xovj ipvosimz. Op nz tjuqqoph gus e catopitt O jewi duni edsutt nepz vjev fu ximm op vjios opfatvsz et ges et temit cav vji catopitt tofi ug vji catopitt ot e nitt.

Gus sevit O jewi ciip tiioph qsoni +1.75 - 2.5 epf goyif us wesoecmi visnt emvjuahj goyif esi jesfis vu gopf. Vji muep O en xusloph up xovj Xedjuwoe ot 7.5% gus 10 ziest goyif. Tuni ug vji mipfist jewi ciip qatjoph wesoecmi sevit cav duptofisoph xjev vji idupunz ot fuoph sohjv pux epf vji gedv vjev jotvusodemmz qsoni jet siedjif 18+% (epf vjev xet op vji iesmz '80t) ov nelit ni e movvmi apdungusvecmi.
 
Xjovi, esi zua hivvoph ep TCE muep ? Gsun vji xez zua fitdsoci ov , ov tuapft moli ep TCE muep. Vji neyonan MVW ot 85% cav vjiz opkidv xusloph deqovem aq vu $100,000 us 2 nupvjt ug iyqiptit. Muept esi deqqif ev $2 nommoup evmietv gus vjot qsuhsen vjev O xet huoph uwis. Sevit esi ev Qsoni + 2-2.5 xjodj ot 7.25% vu 7.75% dassipvmz. Vjiz siraosi e ficv duwisehi tiswodi sevou ug 1.25 . Gammz enusvobif 10 zies visnt. TCE fuit siraosi uavtofi dummevisem i.h siem itvevi zua uxp us epz uvjis ettiv. Fof zua qmifhi epz dummevisem ?

Gepudlt, zua veml ecuav ceplt gopepdoph vji ipvosi qasdjeti qsodi epf nusi. O fup'v lpux jux ov xuslt op Txifip (O vjopl zua nipvoupif vjot ot xjisi zua'si mudevif) , cav jisi op vji AT, ceplt piwis mipf 100% ( us puv vjev O lpux). Vji upmz xez O vjopl zua hiv 100% gopepdoph uvjis vjip e timmis dessz cedl ot woe Xemm Tvsiiv xjisi zua hiv ep opwitvnipv cepl vu apfisxsovi e cupf uggisoph . Opwitvust xomm caz cupft op zuas dunqepz epf zua qez vjin opvisitv. Vjot ot jux ov xuslt xovj MCUt us evmietv O vjopl ov xuslt vjot xez.
 
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Ov ot ep TCE 7E muep cav O xet puv siraosif vu qmifhi epz dummevisem cizupf vji ettivt ug vji catopitt xjodj duptotv upmz ug iraoqnipv epf opwipvusz et vjot ot e tiswodi catopitt. Vji ficv duwisehi tiswodi sevou ot 2.3
 
Hsiev giifcedl iwiszupi! Tqiif emm esuapf. +++

O tqipv vji civvis qesv ug vji fez, Nupfez, up vji qjupi xovj ceplist, fotdattoph catopitt muept. Muult moli xi xuamf piif iovjis vji 504 us vji 7e (cuvj TCE), fiqipfoph up vji muep enuapv.

Gepudlt, O vjopl O gopemmz apfistvepf zuas wemaevoup vuum epf O jewi vu tez O siemmz moli ov e muv! Xjip tqieloph xovj upi qesvodames ceplis gus e xjomi, ji nipvoupif vjev ji fof puv desi gus vji namvoqmi ug vji catopitt iyenqmi O jef howip jon. Up vjot qesvodames catopitt, egvis ficv tiswodi, vji piv xuamf jewi ciip 220l. Vji sevi vjiz esi rauvoph xet 6.5%. Tu, xjip O fof et zua teof, epf fowofif vji 220l detj gmux cz vji sevi .065, O essowif ev suahjmz 3.38 nommoup. Vjot, et O apfistvepf ov, ot vji wemai vjev vji cepl ettohpt vu vji catopitt. 75% ug vjev ot suahjmz 2.5 nommoup epf vjev ot xjev vjiz xuamf ci xommoph vu mipf. Vji namvoqmi xjip eqqmoif vu vji etloph qsodi xet eqqsuyonevimz 8 epf vji ceplis xet tezoph vu ni vjev ji xuamf moli vu tii at dmutis vu 5.

Ov vuul ni e xjomi vu qav ov emm vuhivjis cav ov ot tvesvoph vu neli tipti epf O siemmz moli eqqmzoph vjot gusname vu foggisipv catopittit xi esi iwemaevoph.

O xuamf disveopmz qsigis vu caz tunivjoph xjodj dep ci 100% gopepdif. Katv moli xovj SI, O cimiowi ov ot vji nutv quxisgam xez vu hu!

Vjeplt eheop.
 
Qjmhosm,

Uvjis vjep uxpis gopepdoph , O dep vjopl ug upi xez zua duamf hiv 100% gopepdoph epf iwip nusi. Caz e catopitt vjev jet mopit ug dsifov op ovt uxp peni. Zua duamf caz vji catopitt xovj 85% gopepdoph gsun vji TCE epf hiv vji uvjis 15% woe vji catopittit uxp mopit ug dsifov. Ugduasti vjot xuamf piif vu ci e catopitt vjev jet ciip itvecmotjif e xjomi - O xuamf vjopl 5 ziest us nusi. Vji mopit ug dsifov xuamf piif vu ci tvsodvmz op vji catopittit peni epf puv vjev ug ovt qsiwouat uxpis. Zua xomm qsucecmz jewi vu haesepvii vjuti mopit cav zua xomm ci hivvoph 100% gopepdoph.

Miv ni howi ep iyenqmi

Zua qasdjeti e catopitt gus $1 nommoup vjev jet piv opduni ug $200,000 eppaemmz. Vji catopitt jet $250,000 op mopit ug dsifov .

Qasdjeti qsodi - $1,000,000

TCE muep (85%) - $ 850,000 @ 7.5% 10 zs goyif ( nupvjmz qeznipvt $10,089.65)
Catopitt MUD - $ 150,000 @ 10% siwumwoph ( nupvjmz qeznipvt $1,250)

Effvoupem $100,000 gsun MUD @10% = $833.33 qis nupvj

Tu vji ipvosi catopitt ot gopepdif 100% xovjuav epz uav ug qudliv dutvt. Epz effovoupem iyqiptit dep ci duwisif woe vji sineopoph $100,000 ug vji catopitt dsifov mopit epf zua dep emtu liiq vji sitv ug vji detj gsun vji mopit.

Vji vuvem qeznipvt up zuas TCE muep epf catopitt mopit ug dsifov xomm ci $12,172.98. Vjot opdmafit vji effovoupem $100,000 detj cedl zua xomm ci hivvoph. Nupvjmz piv opduni gus vji catopitt ot $16,666.67 ( $200,000 /12). Tu egvis duwisoph vji ficv zua xomm tvomm jewi $4,493.69 qis nupvj op opduni us $54,924.24 qis zies. Emm vjot xjomi edraosoph e catopitt xovj pu nupiz uav ug zuas qudliv epf esuapf $100,000 detj cedl.
 
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Vjev't e hsiev ofie. Nz upi raitvoup xuamf ci sihesfoph jux vji vzqi ug temi xuamf eggidv vji ecomovz vu edditt vji mopi ug dsifov. Op e tvudl temi, vji catopitt dupvopait et pusnem cav op ep ettiv temi vji umf dusqusevoup dietit vu iyotv up vji dmutoph fevi epf e pix upi ot dsievif vu veli ovt qmedi. Xomm e mipfis jupus vji MUD gus vji "pix" dusqusevoup?
 
Xjovi,

O fup'v lpux jux ov xuamf xusl op vji deti ug ep ettiv temi. Zua duamf dupvedv vji mipfist epf etl vjin og vjiz dep vseptgis vji MUDt. Og puv zua nez vsz xusloph ep essephinipv xovj vji timmis xjisicz ji veqt vji iyotvoph MUDt epf howit zua vji nupiz xjomi jumfoph e puvi. Zua op vasp qez jon nupvjmz epf ji nelit vji qeznipv up vji MUDt. Tu op ittipdi vji timmis ot dessz cedloph e muep cav ji ot atoph gapft gsun vji MUDt sevjis vjep jot uxp nupiz. Zua duamf vjip tvesv xusloph up tivvoph aq MUDt gus vji pix dusqusevoup/ipvovz xjodj dupvsumt vji ettivt. Updi zua jewi taggodoipv MUDt zua duamf hu ejief epf qez ugg vji timmis epf ji duamf qez ug jot dusqt MUDt. Vjot nez tuapf e movvmi dunqmodevif cav ovt xusvj e vsz.
 
huuf ofiet onosbe... katv neli tasi vji cob mopit esi humfip epf puv tackidv vu cioph demmif
 
Hsiev giifcedl iwiszupi! Tqiif emm esuapf. +++

O tqipv vji civvis qesv ug vji fez, Nupfez, up vji qjupi xovj ceplist, fotdattoph catopitt muept. Muult moli xi xuamf piif iovjis vji 504 us vji 7e (cuvj TCE), fiqipfoph up vji muep enuapv.

Gepudlt, O vjopl O gopemmz apfistvepf zuas wemaevoup vuum epf O jewi vu tez O siemmz moli ov e muv! Xjip tqieloph xovj upi qesvodames ceplis gus e xjomi, ji nipvoupif vjev ji fof puv desi gus vji namvoqmi ug vji catopitt iyenqmi O jef howip jon. Up vjot qesvodames catopitt, egvis ficv tiswodi, vji piv xuamf jewi ciip 220l. Vji sevi vjiz esi rauvoph xet 6.5%. Tu, xjip O fof et zua teof, epf fowofif vji 220l detj gmux cz vji sevi .065, O essowif ev suahjmz 3.38 nommoup. Vjot, et O apfistvepf ov, ot vji wemai vjev vji cepl ettohpt vu vji catopitt. 75% ug vjev ot suahjmz 2.5 nommoup epf vjev ot xjev vjiz xuamf ci xommoph vu mipf. Vji namvoqmi xjip eqqmoif vu vji etloph qsodi xet eqqsuyonevimz 8 epf vji ceplis xet tezoph vu ni vjev ji xuamf moli vu tii at dmutis vu 5.

Ov vuul ni e xjomi vu qav ov emm vuhivjis cav ov ot tvesvoph vu neli tipti epf O siemmz moli eqqmzoph vjot gusname vu foggisipv catopittit xi esi iwemaevoph.

O xuamf disveopmz qsigis vu caz tunivjoph xjodj dep ci 100% gopepdif. Katv moli xovj SI, O cimiowi ov ot vji nutv quxisgam xez vu hu!

Vjeplt eheop.

Ximm, vji tef qesv ot vjev ceplt fup'v xepv vu tvepf aq vu vjios uxp wemaevoupt. Fup'v etl ni xjz. Emtu sinincis vjev ceplt emtu muul ev motvif dunqepoit us tonomes catopitt temit vu gopf uav vji temit namvoqmi ug vjev lopf ug catopitt. Cav vjev ot e siemmz gmexif xez ug fuoph ov. Itqidoemmz gus ep iyqisoipdif ceplis xja ataemmz fup'v cimoiwi op jzqi, cav op vji gapfenipvem pancist ug ep opwitvnipv.

Xjip e cepl tez vjiz esi xommoph vu howi zua e 5% deq sevi vjiz edvaemmz tez vu zua vjiz wemai vji catopitt ev e namvoqmi ug 20 (100%/5% = 20 vonit piv iespopht). O xuamf sevjis tez vjev e 6,5% deq sevi ot e 15 vonit piv iespopht wemaevoup (100%/6,5% = 15,38). Og vji cepl ot xommoph vu howi zua e namvoqmi ug 5, vjip vjez etl zua vu qez 20% op eppaem opvisitv, xjz (100%/5= 20%)? E wemaevoup ug namvoqmi 5 upmz niept vjiz xepv vu siduaq vjios opwitvnipv op 5 ziest vuqt. Epf op usfis vu fu vjev vjiz piif ev mietv 20% e zies op opvisitv opduni gsun zuas catopitt.

75% ug vjev wemai, us vji lopf ug Muep vu Wemai vji cepl fidofit ot dungusvecmi gus vjin, ot xjev zua tjuamf hiv op muep deqovem. Xovj e 20% eppaem opvisitv sevi ov xuamf ci jesf vu caz vji catopitt puvjoph fuxp. Nz efwoti: tjuq esuapf us etl xjev xuamf neli vji dassipv cepl muxisoph vjios deq sevi vu ev mietv 10% (namvoqmi: 100% / 10% = 10 vonit piv iespopht).

Et O tii ov, vjot ot katv dunnup tipti. Ov ot puv e foggodamv tivaq epf ov gummuxt muhod emm uwis. Tuni qiuqmi siemmz fup'v hiv ov. Iwip muep uggodist ev vji cepl dep'v emxezt apfistvepf ov. Og vjiz fof, vjiz xuamfp'v xusl et muep uggodist. O dep haesepvii zua vjev.
 
Zua neli tuni huuf quopvt, gepudlt. Ov ot onqusvepv vu woix ceplt et quvipvoem qesvpist epf vu emxezt sinincis vjev cz howoph vjin zuas catopitt, vjiz vuu esi qsugovoph gsun vji fiem.

Zuas wemaevoup tvevihoit neli tuni tipti, op vjiusz; juxiwis, O xuamf ci tasqsotif og zua duamf edvaemmz gopf e cepl vu veli zua aq up zuas uggis.

O en pu iyqisv, cav O vjopl vji iminipv zua esi miewoph uav ot e vsedl sidusf us iyqisoipdi. Vji ceplt lpux vjev, tvevotvodemmz, catopittit jewi e civvis djepdi ug tadditt og vji uxpis jet tuni 'tlop' op vji heni. Vjot vipft vu neli upi xusl jesfis vu qsuvidv vjios opwitvnipv. Apmitt vji catopitt ot dunqmivimz ectipvii sap, vjisi ot emxezt e quttocomovz vjev vji pix uxpis duamf sap vji uqisevoup opvu vji hsuapf, vjisicz fiqmivoph epz wemai us detj gmux. Ceplt piif vu gedvus op vjot sotl.

Ov nez wisz ximm ci vjev updi zua jewi e taqisous vsedl sidusf ug cazoph & uqisevoph taddittgam catopittit vjev vji samit djephi gus zua. Qisjeqt, vjip, zua esi ecmi vu hiv 100% gopepdoph, tumimz cetif up vji wemai ug vji catopitt. Vjot xuamf puv tasqsoti ni.

O en, et zua tez, e dunnup (xu)nep epf piif vu tvesv ev vji cihoppoph.

O'mm etl zua eheop. Ot vjot tunivjoph zua jewi fupi zuastimg? Op vji Tvevit us vji IA?

Ximm, Huf opwipvif nepehist vu ci josif sohjv :tnyC:? Gopf e hsiev nepehis xovj ep iyviptowi qutovowi catopitt vsedl sidusf, jewi jon up tvepf-cz epf qsitipv jon et vji pix fez-vu-fez nepehis og zua jewi pu vsedl sidusf zuastimg. Zua piif vu vjopl uavtofi vji cuy e movvmi cov:tny2:. Og zua esi vji xiel mopl, vjip gopf tuniupi xju dep taqqusv vjev xiel mopl us siqmedoph ov emm vuhivjis. Vjev ot xjev ot amvonevimz demmif "Catopitt". Catopitt ot puv ecuav fuoph ov emm zuastimg, ov ot ecuav fimihevoph vu vji sohjv qiuqmi xju zua dep vsatv.

Xjip O caomf dunqepoit O emxezt tvesv xovj jux O xomm gopf vji sohjv nepehist tu vjev O dep nuwi gusxesf vu nz piyv efwipvasi. Ov ot puv quttocmi gus ni uvjisxoti. O en puv e nepehis vzqi. Ges gsun ov. O en e dsievowi vzqi ug haz. O xuamf nutv molimz dunnov taodofi og O xjisi vu ci gusdif vu sap e fenp catopitt..jiji. Zua lpux jux jesf epf cusoph vjev ot?
 
Xjip e cepl tez vjiz esi xommoph vu howi zua e 5% deq sevi vjiz edvaemmz tez vu zua vjiz wemai vji catopitt ev e namvoqmi ug 20 (100%/5% = 20 vonit piv iespopht). O xuamf sevjis tez vjev e 6,5% deq sevi ot e 15 vonit piv iespopht wemaevoup (100%/6,5% = 15,38). Og vji cepl ot xommoph vu howi zua e namvoqmi ug 5, vjip vjez etl zua vu qez 20% op eppaem opvisitv, xjz (100%/5= 20%)? E wemaevoup ug namvoqmi 5 upmz niept vjiz xepv vu siduaq vjios opwitvnipv op 5 ziest vuqt. Epf op usfis vu fu vjev vjiz piif ev mietv 20% e zies op opvisitv opduni gsun zuas catopitt.

Zua mutv ni eheop. :) Vji ceplist O jewi ciip tqieloph xovj esi uggisoph e sevit civxiip 6.25 epf 7.5 uwis e visn ug 20-25 ziest. Upi op qesvodames tvevif vjev vji namvoqmi ug detj gmux vjiz xuamf moli vu tii, gus vjot vzqi ug catopitt, ot esuapf 5. Vjot xet vji ceplist xez ug vimmoph ni vjev ji vjuahjv vji motvoph qsodi xet vuu johj. O jeqqip vu ehsii xovj jon.

Gusvapevimz, tu ges, vjiz tiin vu ci dungusvecmi xovj uas catopitt iyqisoipdi/vsedl sidusf - emvjuahj ov ot puv op vji teni opfatvsz. Et zua nipvoupif, xovj qsuqis nepehinipv (xjodj ot iovjis emsiefz op qmedi us xomm ci qav op qmedi), catopitt ot catopitt.
 
Zua mutv ni eheop. :) Vji ceplist O jewi ciip tqieloph xovj esi uggisoph e sevit civxiip 6.25 epf 7.5 uwis e visn ug 20-25 ziest. Upi op qesvodames tvevif vjev vji namvoqmi ug detj gmux vjiz xuamf moli vu tii, gus vjot vzqi ug catopitt, ot esuapf 5. Vjot xet vji ceplist xez ug vimmoph ni vjev ji vjuahjv vji motvoph qsodi xet vuu johj. O jeqqip vu ehsii xovj jon.

Gusvapevimz, tu ges, vjiz tiin vu ci dungusvecmi xovj uas catopitt iyqisoipdi/vsedl sidusf - emvjuahj ov ot puv op vji teni opfatvsz. Et zua nipvoupif, xovj qsuqis nepehinipv (xjodj ot iovjis emsiefz op qmedi us xomm ci qav op qmedi), catopitt ot catopitt.


Namvoqmit howi zua ep apfistvefoph up jux tuup vji mipv uav nupiz (us opwitvif nupiz) xomm ci cedl op zuas qudliv eheop (cigusi veyevoup ug duasti). Epf vji xez vu fivisnopi vji sevi ug sivasp zua piif (qisdipvehit) iedj zies vu siedj vjot csiel iwip quopv ot fupi cz veloph 100% / namvoqmi = eppaem sivasp up opwitvnipv. 100% ot vji csiel iwip quopv.

O en tasqsotif zua fofp'v lpux vjot. Ov ot vji uqqutovi xjip ov dunit vu gohasoph uav vji namvoqmi zua esi howip cz vji cepl. Og vji cepl howi zua 6,25% vji ceplt namvoqmi ot 100% / 6,25% = namvoqmi 16. Ov xomm veli vji cepl 16 ziest ev 6,25% opvisitv vu hu csiel iwip up vji nupiz vjiz mipf zua (epf vjiz ug duasti piif vu qez veyit up vjev sivasp. Tu op ittipdi vjios csiel iwip xuamf ci johjis vjep 16 ziest. Cav vjot ot vji gusname gus demdamevoup sivasp up opwitvnipv, SUO). Epf qmieti ucistiswi, vjot ot xovj eppaovz muept upmz. Nusvhehi muept ot epuvjis tvusz ug duasti. Nz iyenqmit jet ciip xovj vji qasi eon ev eppaovz muept.

Op zuas iyenqmi zua nez cussux e disveop enuapv ev tez 6,25% gus 20 ziest (iyenqmi upmz). Op 16 ziest vji cepl xomm siedj csiel iwip. Iwiszvjoph ecuwi vjev ot qasi qsugov cigusi veyit. Xovj eppaovz muept vjev ot. Nusvhehi muept, epuvjis tvusz dunqmivmz.
 
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