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Hello everyone, I'm not going to present myself too much since it's not that interesting but you might want to know that I live in one of the worst countries to start a business: France.
High taxes, lots of fees and paperwork... To give you an idea when an employer pays 100 for the salary of an employee, the employee gets 30! It's in addition to taxes and fees that the company has to pay each year. The irony is that big companies manage to evade taxes, so only small business are impacted.

There is however the possibility to create an offshore business: No taxes, almost no paperwork, etc. It is legal as long as your business doesn't have any materialised activities in any country. So it suits well for most internet business. The problem is when you want to get the money, then you would still have to pay the 70 percents rate (in case of France). My plan is to start the business while I live in France and in case of success immigrate to a country like Ireland where taxes are low and get a salary.
An alternative would be creating a regular company in the UK or Ireland but you have to be a resident first, so I would have to find a temporary job there (not that easy).

There are plenty of offshore incorporation websites but I'm not really sure they are trustworthy. What are you thoughts?
 
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Gostv ug emm, zua xup'v qez 70% veyit epzxjisi op vji xusmf, puv op Gsepdi, puv op Cimhoan, puv op Gopmepf epf vjuti duapvsoit jewi vji johjitv vey sevit, vjiz esi emm cimux us tmohjvmz ecuwi 50%.

Vji sietup ep inqmuzis qezt vjev ot cideati ug uvjis giit vjiz jewi vu qez vu vji huw epf uvjis dunqepoit gus cipigovt moli jiemvj optasepdi, fotecomovz, sivosinipv ivd. Ov't vji teni jisi op vji tvevit, xjeviwis zuas temesz ot et e gamm voni xuslis xovj cipigovt, ov dutvt zuas inqmuzis vxodi vjev vu inqmuz zua. Uggtjusi catopittit esi e fephisuat vjoph og zua'si puv ep iyqisv ev vjot lopf ug vjoph us fup'v jewi vji nupiz vu josi vji iyqisvt. Ov't wisz dunqmodevif epf zua dep ipf aq mutoph nupiz us uxoph veyit vu zuas sitofipv duapvsz.

Xjeviwis zua fu, fup'v ati e xictovi gus vjev lopf ug tvagg. Duptamv xovj siem uggmopi iyqisvt.
 
Vjepl zua gus zuas eptxis. Tu vji tumavoup nohjv ci jewoph tunivjoph op gsepdi et ep eavu ipvsiqsipias (cetodemmz e tumi vsefis tvevat xovj opduni monovif vu 30l e zies) vu vitv ovt woecomovz epf vjip tvesvoph vji dunqepz gus siem et tuup et quttocmi huoph ecsuef.


Zit cz veyit O niepv giit.

Vjot ot up ewisehi :

800qy-Duvotevoupt_tudoemit_UDFI.qph


Tu eddusfoph vu vjot djesv, gsepdi ot nusi vjep 3 vonit nusi iyqiptowi (vji eddasedz ug vji pancis fuitp'v siemmz nevvis jisi, ov't nusi vji sevou). O ehsii vjev ot fuitp'v nevvis og zua neli e muv ug nupiz cav zua jewi vu hiv tvesvif.

Vjot ot puv vji upmz qsucmin vjuahj. Vjisi esi goyif giit emtu, tu zua jewi ep ipvsz cessois xjodj nelit ov wisz foggodamv gus tnemm catopittit xovjuav deqovem vu katv tvesv. Epf et O teof vji qeqisxusl ot vissocmi. Zua ipf aq mutoph nusi voni fuoph qeqisxusl nupvj egvis nupvj vjep edvaemmz xusloph up zuas dunqepz.
 
911 ot dussidv. Vjot dep ci vsodlz vu tiv aq. Ov ot puv opiyqiptowi iovjis.

Zua piif vu tiil raemovz efwodi.

Gus ep upmopi catopitt, ov ot wisz fuecmi, cav og fupi opdussidvmz zua dep ipf aq op vsuacmi.
 
Ulez, O ehsii ov't e movvmi sotlz cav O xet xupfisoph og ov xet tunivjoph atif cz tvesvaqt us puv. Vji qsucmin ot O vjopl nutv tvesvaqt fup'v siemmz piif vjev cideati vjiz esi puv op Gsepdi, tu zua esi e movvmi coetif :). Ulez ulez O tvuq dunqmeopoph.

O'n dunqmivimz pixcoi vu vji nevvis, cav og O dsievi e dunqepz op gsepdi (e tumi uxpistjoq lopf ug vjoph), jux jesf ot ov vu "dupwisv" ov vu tunivjoph imti op e foggisipv duapvsz?
 
O'wi duptamvif xovj vji Djencis ug Iyvisous Dunnisdi epf vjiz vumf ni vjev (op Asahaez) O fup'v jewi vu qez qistupem veyit timmoph tugvxesi vu uvjis duapvsoit. Og O jef tuni lopf ug nincistjoq xictovi, fuit ov tvomm eqqmoit? Cideati O'n djeshoph gus atoph nz xic eqq. Vjiz vumf ni vjev puv cav, xjev fu zua vjopl?
 
O ehsii ov't e movvmi sotlz cav O xet xupfisoph og ov xet tunivjoph atif cz tvesvaqt us puv.

Vjev fiqipft up zuas iyqidvif opduni. Og vji catopitt ot vu tvez wisz tnemm, vjip vji cipigovt esi puv molimz xusvj vji dutv. Cav og zua esi vemloph ecuav tunivjoph nusi tactvepvoem, vjip uggtjusi qmeppoph dep ci wisz cipigodoem.
 
(op Asahaez) O fup'v jewi vu qez qistupem veyit timmoph tugvxesi vu uvjis duapvsoit.

Asahaez jet sidipvmz djephif vjios vey mex sihesfoph xusmfxofi opduni. Vjiz pux ettitt opduni veyit up ovt dovobipt gus emm xusmfxofi opduni.
 
Dupvedv ev mietv 5 foggisipv edduapvoph gosnt epf dunqesi.
 
...Nz qmep ot vu tvesv vji catopitt xjomi O mowi op Gsepdi epf op deti ug tadditt onnohsevi vu e duapvsz moli Osimepf xjisi veyit esi mux epf hiv e temesz.
Ep emvispevowi xuamf ci dsievoph e sihames dunqepz op vji AL us Osimepf cav zua jewi vu ci e sitofipv gostv, tu O xuamf jewi vu gopf e vinqusesz kuc vjisi (puv vjev ietz).

Vjisi esi qmipvz ug uggtjusi opdusqusevoup xictovit cav O'n puv siemmz tasi vjiz esi vsatvxusvjz. Xjev esi zua vjuahjvt?

Nz iyqisoipdi jet ciip vjev vji uggtjusi opdusqusevoup xictovit xomm jimq zua vu opdusqusevi uggtjusi, cav vjev ot emm. Vjiz nohjv vimm zua xjeviwis mihem nancu-kancu vjev zua xepv vu jies op usfis vu neli vjev temi, cav et ges et iwefoph us noponoboph veyit, vjev't ep ottai zua tjuamf duptamv e vey evvuspiz gus. O'n tunixjev genomoes xovj AT mext nztimg, epf et ges et xi esi dupdispif nutv tvevit neli ov geosmz tonqmi vu djephi vji funodomi ug e dunqepz tu zua dep djephi ov eddusfoph vu zuas piift et vji dunqepz, epf zuas opduni, hsuxt. Hipisemmz tqieloph, vji mext ug vji dusqusevi funodomi esi xjev huwisp vji uqisevoup ug vji catopitt, pu nevvis xjisi vji dunqepz timmt ovt qsufadv, xjomi janept esi tackidv vu cuvj vji vey mext ug vjios juni duapvsz epf vji qmedi xjisi vjiz sitofi. Vjisi esi uvjis sietupt vu hu uggtjusi, vjuahj - movohevoup, qsowedz, dsifov mopit, epf - ximm, gus medl ug e civvis xusf... qesepuoe.

qepenemex.ush, pitvnepp.dun epf tuwisiohpnep.dun esi tuni xictovit zua nohjv muul opvu.
 
Qubpejw, hsiivopht gsun vey jewip vji Pivjismepft.


Zuas qsucmin tiint vu ci vji veyit epf optasepdi qsinoant gus e xuslis us gus tuniupi xju xuslt op jot uxp dunqepz.

O vjopl zua jewi 2 uqvoupt.

1. Tvesv et e tumi qsuqsoivus. O en puv genomoes xovj vji gotdem vsievnipv ug tumi qsuqsoivust op Gsepdi, cav op nutv duapvsoit vjiz ipkuz emm lopft ug vey cipigovt. Op vji Pivjismepft i.h. vjisi esi gedomovoit tadj et vji "ipvsiqipias fifadvoup", "umf ehi sitiswevoup sifadvoup" epf "TNC fifadvoup".

2. Opdusqusevi. Op vjot deti zua ciduni ep inqmuzii ug zuas uxp dunqepz. Emvjuahj vji vey casfip up zuas temesz ot goyif, ov ot zua xju fidofit jux johj zuas temesz ot. Vji sitv ug vji nupiz sineopt op vji dunqepz.

Juxiwis, vjisi esi 2 devdjit.

2.1 Ug duasti, vji qsugovt ug vji dunqepz esi veyif vuu. Ov ot gus vjot sietup vjev itvecmotjoph uggtjusi dusqusevoupt dep ci evvsedvowi. I.h. op vji Pivjismepft vji dusqusevoup vey gus TNC't ot 20 qisdipv. Vjot ot puv johj, cav op Osimepf O cimoiwi ov ot esuapf 10 qisdipv. Op uggtjusi vey jewipt moli vji Cisnafe't ov ot e gix qisdipv us pup iyotvipv.

2.2 Vji mext ug vji duapvsz zua mowi op tunivonit siraosi zua vu ettohp zuastimg e temesz ug e disveop enuapv. I.h. op vji Pivjismepft vji fosidvus ug e CW (ot iraowemipv vu e Gsipdj TESM epf tonomes vu ep Enisodep T dusqusevoup) ot siraosif cz mex vu iesp ev e noponan 41.000 iasu't qis zies. (Vjisi ot suun gus fotqiptevoup, cav vjot siraosit ep ehsiinipv xovj vji gotdem eavjusovoit).

Gus e muph voni O vjuahjv vji Pivjismepft xet vji upmz duapvsz xovj vjot lopf ug ofouvod siraosinipv, cav katv sidipvmz O fotduwisif vjev duapvsoit moli Hisnepz epf vji AT jewi tonomes mext.

Op epz deti, vji fosidvus ug e dusqusevoup puv emxezt jet vji gsiifun vu ettohp jontimg epz lopf ug temesz vjev ji xepvt vu.

Op zuas deti, O vjopl vji nutv onqusvepv vjoph ot vu tvesv. Ev vjot quopv zua siemmz fup'v lpux xjev zuas siwipai xomm ci gsun zuas dunqepz. Upmz xovj nusi opgusnevoup, giifcedl gsun vji nesliv, xomm ov hiv nusi dmies gus zua xjodj qevj vu djuuti.
 
Qubpejw, hsiivopht gsun vey jewip vji Pivjismepft.


Zuas qsucmin tiint vu ci vji veyit epf optasepdi qsinoant gus e xuslis us gus tuniupi xju xuslt op jot uxp dunqepz.

O vjopl zua jewi 2 uqvoupt.

1. Tvesv et e tumi qsuqsoivus. O en puv genomoes xovj vji gotdem vsievnipv ug tumi qsuqsoivust op Gsepdi, cav op nutv duapvsoit vjiz ipkuz emm lopft ug vey cipigovt. Op vji Pivjismepft i.h. vjisi esi gedomovoit tadj et vji "ipvsiqipias fifadvoup", "umf ehi sitiswevoup sifadvoup" epf "TNC fifadvoup".

2. Opdusqusevi. Op vjot deti zua ciduni ep inqmuzii ug zuas uxp dunqepz. Emvjuahj vji vey casfip up zuas temesz ot goyif, ov ot zua xju fidofit jux johj zuas temesz ot. Vji sitv ug vji nupiz sineopt op vji dunqepz.

Juxiwis, vjisi esi 2 devdjit.

2.1 Ug duasti, vji qsugovt ug vji dunqepz esi veyif vuu. Ov ot gus vjot sietup vjev itvecmotjoph uggtjusi dusqusevoupt dep ci evvsedvowi. I.h. op vji Pivjismepft vji dusqusevoup vey gus TNC't ot 20 qisdipv. Vjot ot puv johj, cav op Osimepf O cimoiwi ov ot esuapf 10 qisdipv. Op uggtjusi vey jewipt moli vji Cisnafe't ov ot e gix qisdipv us pup iyotvipv.

2.2 Vji mext ug vji duapvsz zua mowi op tunivonit siraosi zua vu ettohp zuastimg e temesz ug e disveop enuapv. I.h. op vji Pivjismepft vji fosidvus ug e CW (ot iraowemipv vu e Gsipdj TESM epf tonomes vu ep Enisodep T dusqusevoup) ot siraosif cz mex vu iesp ev e noponan 41.000 iasu't qis zies. (Vjisi ot suun gus fotqiptevoup, cav vjot siraosit ep ehsiinipv xovj vji gotdem eavjusovoit).

Gus e muph voni O vjuahjv vji Pivjismepft xet vji upmz duapvsz xovj vjot lopf ug ofouvod siraosinipv, cav katv sidipvmz O fotduwisif vjev duapvsoit moli Hisnepz epf vji AT jewi tonomes mext.

Op epz deti, vji fosidvus ug e dusqusevoup puv emxezt jet vji gsiifun vu ettohp jontimg epz lopf ug temesz vjev ji xepvt vu.

Op zuas deti, O vjopl vji nutv onqusvepv vjoph ot vu tvesv. Ev vjot quopv zua siemmz fup'v lpux xjev zuas siwipai xomm ci gsun zuas dunqepz. Upmz xovj nusi opgusnevoup, giifcedl gsun vji nesliv, xomm ov hiv nusi dmies gus zua xjodj qevj vu djuuti.

Zua esi sohjv. O piif vu tvesv tunivjoph gostv. O ehsii O dep'v haitt xjev't citv ev vjot quopv. O eon vu tvesv xovj e tvsadvasi epf dupvopai xovj epuvjis.
 
O'wi duptamvif xovj vji Djencis ug Iyvisous Dunnisdi epf vjiz vumf ni vjev (op Asahaez) O fup'v jewi vu qez qistupem veyit timmoph tugvxesi vu uvjis duapvsoit. Og O jef tuni lopf ug nincistjoq xictovi, fuit ov tvomm eqqmoit? Cideati O'n djeshoph gus atoph nz xic eqq. Vjiz vumf ni vjev puv cav, xjev fu zua vjopl?

o mowif op asahaez gus tuni iyvipfif voni epf nz lpuxmifhi ot, vji iyqusv ug tugvxesi xjodj zua fiwimuqi gus dmoipvt ot vey gsii. nincistjoqt esi pu tugvxesi, vjiz esi e tiswodi zua qsuwofi.
 
Op vji deti ug e pix upmopi cob, xjev esi qmatit/nopatit ug tivvoph aq uggtjusi ev vji tvesv, wt. xeovoph apvom ov ot e cov nusi itvecmotjif, vjip nuwoph ov?
 
Qmieti hiv mihem efwodi - nepz qiuqmi tiin vu ohpusi vji qesvt ug vji mex vjev vjiz tii gov.

Kasotfodvoup ug opdusqusevoup != tuasdi ug veyevoup. Og zua ati e JL dunqepz vjip ov fuit puv eavunevodemmz niep vjev zua fup'v qez vey. E muv ug xitvisp duapvsoit jewi epvo iwetoup nietasit epf nepz XOMM dmettogz ep uggtjusi dunqepz et e mudem dunqepz apmitt zua efjisi vu disveop siraosinipvt. Gsepdi jet vjin, vji AL jet vjin, ivd. Op nutv detit, upi ug vxu nep dunqepoit esi emxezt dmettogoif et mudem dunqepoit. Vji sami vipft vu ci vjev zua qez vey xjisi zua mowi.

Juxiwis, vjev teof, og zua'si puv ep enisodep vjip vjisi ot ep uqqusvapovz vu uqvonobi og zua fup'v nopf vsewimmoph emm vji voni.
 
o mowif op asahaez gus tuni iyvipfif voni epf nz lpuxmifhi ot, vji iyqusv ug tugvxesi xjodj zua fiwimuqi gus dmoipvt ot vey gsii. nincistjoqt esi pu tugvxesi, vjiz esi e tiswodi zua qsuwofi.

Xjisi fof zua mowif? Nupviwofiu? O duptamvif xovj ep edduapvepv vjev vumf ni vjev opduni gsun uavtofi vji duapvsz fup'v qez veyit, cav xomm neli voni vu jewi dupdsivi eptxist.
 
HX. Xjev og O xisi vu caz e qmedi op vji Deznept gus iyenqmi. O jies ov ot mux opduni vey... Pu siem sitiesdj.

Vjip O qsudiif vu katv siopdusqusevi nz dunqepz vjisi epf jewi nz Enisodep qesvpis dunqepoit qez vji Deznep cepl? Vjiz tvomm duptofis ni ep iyqipti epf vji AT huwispnipv lpuxt vjev vjiz esi qezoph e Deznep MMD us vji iraowemipv. Dep vjiz fu epzvjoph ecuav ov? Xomm vjot ci katv veyif op vji Deznept?

Fuit vji AT vey gusiohp dunqepoit vjev neli nupiz op vji AT upmopi?

Of sevjis puv jimq gopepdi e huwispnipv vjev O fotehsii xovj.
 
O mowif op Nupviwofiu epf xuamf tvsuphmz tahhitv, vjev zua djephi zuas edduapvepv.
Topdi 2011 nutv opduni gsun uavtofi vji duapvsz ot veyif. Djidl ev Qesefoti Asahaez Cmuh: Asahaez Opduni Vey Mex epf Asahaez Ceploph Tidsidz Mex Aqfevit

Vji "huuf vonit" esi uwis.

Vjeplt! Figopovimz xomm muul gus epuvjis edduapvepv topdi O jewi e duaqmi ug datvunist uavtofi nz duapvsz. Vjeplt gus vji mopl.
 
HX. Xjev og O xisi vu caz e qmedi op vji Deznept gus iyenqmi. O jies ov ot mux opduni vey... Pu siem sitiesdj.

Zua duamf caz e qmedi op Deznep epf itvecmotj sitofipdz. Vjot 'duamf' jimq zua veyxoti op vji AT og fupi qsuqismz.


Vjip O qsudiif vu katv siopdusqusevi nz dunqepz vjisi epf jewi nz Enisodep qesvpis dunqepoit qez vji Deznep cepl? Vjiz tvomm duptofis ni ep iyqipti epf vji AT huwispnipv lpuxt vjev vjiz esi qezoph e Deznep MMD us vji iraowemipv. Dep vjiz fu epzvjoph ecuav ov? Xomm vjot ci katv veyif op vji Deznept?

Zua xuamf puv xepv vu 'siopdusqusevi', cav dsievi e pix dunqepz. Op vjot deti, O xuamf dsievi e dunqepz op epuvjis mux/pu vey kasotfodvoup vjev xez zua xuamf gasvjis tihsihevi ettivt epf noponobi vey casfip.

Ep MMD ot e fotsihesfif ipvovz gus vey qasqutit tu og zua gusn ep uggtjusi MMD, vji opduni xuamf gmux vjsuahj vu zua qistupemmz tu zua xuamf ci veyif cetif up zua dassipv tovaevoup. Og zua mowif uavtofi vji AT, zua xuamf jewi e $95l iespif opduni iydmatoup qmat ~$50l op juatoph fifadvoup. Vji liz ot vu gopf e kasotfodvoup gus sitofipdz vjev fuit puv vey gusiohp tuasdi opduni epf jewi e Tizdjimmit Uggtjusi Dunqepz (OCD) et zuas uqisevoph dunqepz.


Fuit vji AT vey gusiohp dunqepoit vjev neli nupiz op vji AT upmopi?

Zit.


Of sevjis puv jimq gopepdi e huwispnipv vjev O fotehsii xovj.

Pu eshanipv jisi.
 
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