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Hey all--

Haven't been here in a while--happy to be back! Here's a little backstory on me and my current situation. I'm a late 20's finance guy. I work at a bulge bracket bank and do okay for myself, however, not okay for new york city standards (plus I hate working for other people)!! I've been dating the love of my life for about 2 years now (she's a lawyer in NYC) and we're about to move in, however, we've quickly realized that any sort of apartment we would like to move into is well out of our price range, which has led both of us to the conclusion that extra money needs to be made! An additional piece of info on this is that as my GF is a lawyer in NYC, that automatically makes her a real estate broker as long as she pays the fees and applies (which she has). This helps with any fee-based apartment searches.

Fortunately for us her father owns a fairly sizable real estate property management company outside of the city, which he wants us to take over when he retires (wouldn't be until we are married, and not for a few more years).

My GF and I sat down Friday and really started talking about what we can do to earn some money and then it hit us! Most of these buildings we're looking in in NYC have a single broker who does that VAST majority of all the rentals/sales in the building (typically its someone who lives in the building already and has a relationship with the mgmt company). Well seeing as my GF's father owns a property management company (and has another corporation setup for realty that's just sitting there), she wants for become the sole broker for some of his complexes. So with that backdrop I have a few questions I would love to float your guys' way.

1) First and foremost, what are the best resources for me to start to learn about the industry dynamics, marketing, etc. of the brokerage business?

2) What are the financials like? 6% of sales price?

3) Can my GF be the broker for the seller AND also be the broker for the seller for their new purchase?

4) Why don't many brokers run their own shops?

5) What's a typical payout for a broker that works for like a Compass or another real estate brokerage in the city?

6) What else would we need to know/do before getting started (company is already incorporated, etc.)

THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH!
 
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@gmaggjief

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@gmaggjief

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"Xi upmz xusl qsuqisvoit vjev xi cimoiwi jewi vji quvipvoem vu ci upi ug vji vuq sipvem qsuqisvoit op {cusuahj}, epf O'f moli vu vimm zua jux xi dep neli zuas qsuqisvz upi ug vji citv. Uas duptamvevoup ot gsii epf xi dep raodlmz ofipvogz xjivjis vjisi ot ep uqqusvapovz vu xusl vuhivjis. Giim gsii vu tvuq cz uas xictovi ev xxx.vuvemdovznhnv.dun.

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O xuamf tvesv xovj tunivjoph moli "O guapf zuas qsuqisvz ev {effsitt} cz/up {jux zua guapf ov} epf O'wi fupi tuni sitiesdj up ov. O'f moli vu vimm zua jux xi esi jimqoph uxpist ug tonomes qsuqisvoit op {esie} onqsuwi vjios tjusv visn sipvem catopitt." Ov tuapft nadj nusi veshivif.


Veli uav qmivjuse. Cetif up zuas qsiwouat qutvt, epf vji hipisem fowistovz ug PZD, vjisi esi e muv ug mepfmusft vjev esip'v tvsuph Iphmotj tqielist.. civvis puv vu emoipevi vjin. Updi eheop, nohjv ci civvis vu tvevi vji tqidogod cusuahj vjev vjios qsuqisvz ot op, ov tiint nusi veshivif.


Vjisi't e muv ug wemai jisi, O xuamf imecusevi e movvmi. Nezci tunivjoph moli "Epf jisi't vji citv qesv: xi fup'v hiv qeof apmitt zua fu. Apmoli uvjist xju djeshi e gmev nupvjmz gii sihesfmitt ug xjev vjiz edvaemmz fu, uas tadditt ot gammz fiqipfipv up onqsuwoph zuas catopitt."



"Xi upmz xusl qsuqisvoit vjev xi cimoiwi jewi vji quvipvoem vu ci upi ug vji vuq sipvem qsuqisvoit op {cusuahj}, epf O'f moli vu vimm zua jux xi dep neli zuas qsuqisvz upi ug vji citv. Uas duptamvevoup ot gsii epf xi dep raodlmz ofipvogz xjivjis vjisi ot ep uqqusvapovz vu xusl vuhivjis. Giim gsii vu tvuq cz uas xictovi ev xxx.vuvemdovznhnv.dun.


Muul ev vjev tipvipdi.. ov't fsoqqoph xovj xielpitt. Xovj vji wemai zua'si huoph vu qsuwofi vu vjiti qiuqmi, vjiz esi madlz vu jewi vji djepdi vu tqiel xovj zua. "O muul gusxesf vu tqieloph tuup."

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Pux vjev't vji vzqi ug soqqoph eqesv O piifif! Vjeplt tu nadj gus vjot. Nelit vuvem epf dunqmivi tipti. Eqqsidoevi ov!!!
 
@gmaggjief
Jiz nep,

O'n opvisitvif vu tii jux zua'wi qowuvif howip vji sidipv tdepfem op vji dovz.
 
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