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I currently own/run a decently successful real estate rental company with a total of 71 rental units. Making great cash every month, equity and growth is pretty good.

Recently I ran into a local business that has several sources of income just at one location. The owner is older and wants to get out and feels he can't trust any of his kids to take the business over (Which I agree, because I've seen a owner's kids destroy more businesses than I can think of).

Anyway, we're to a point that I have to start doing some serious due diligence on the business to determine whether it's worth what he's asking (Around $1.2m). My first step was to ask for books regarding the business, which he was happy to do, but he had to get them from his accountant, the same accountant that I've left this year due to their poor quality.

I was VERY shocked to see more-or-less the entire businesses' income on a single line stating 'other income' in quickbooks. Meaning, for reporting purposes 90%+ of the income is tracked to only one category. The expenses are tracked to a much better level, but it is very worrysome to see that the accountant he is paying a substantial amount of money to each year has prepared such poor reports. On one hand, this accountant has a track record of very shoddy work, but on the other it also slightly worries me in this phase of due diligence.

So, what I'd like would be input from those of you who have bought operating, and seemingly profitable businesses of ideas and best practices to get it done. Purchasing won't be the difficult issue (At least from what I see), making sure my investment is protected is what concerns me more than anything. I've run into so many businesses that were profitable, but the owners also stripped out cash (To non report or not pay taxes) it makes the books look awful. This isn't exactly going on here, but it adds another major layer into figuring out what the truth is.
 
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O xet WISZ tjudlif vu tii nusi-us-mitt vji ipvosi catopittit' opduni up e tophmi mopi tvevoph 'uvjis opduni' op raodlcuult. Niepoph, gus siqusvoph qasqutit 90%+ ug vji opduni ot vsedlif vu upmz upi devihusz. Vji iyqiptit esi vsedlif vu e nadj civvis miwim, cav ov ot wisz xussztuni vu tii vjev vji edduapvepv ji ot qezoph e tactvepvoem enuapv ug nupiz vu iedj zies jet qsiqesif tadj quus siqusvt. Up upi jepf, vjot edduapvepv jet e vsedl sidusf ug wisz tjuffz xusl, cav up vji uvjis ov emtu tmohjvmz xussoit ni op vjot qjeti ug fai fomohipdi.

O fup'v lpux xjev lopf ug ehsiinipv zua'f piif xovj jon vu fu vjot, cav O'f xepv vu fu e gamm eafov. Vji upi voni O'wi tiip cuult vjot cef vjisi xisi iyqiptit hivvoph deqovemobif epf emm lopft ug uvjis puptipti vjev mif vu vji dunqepz muuloph nadj nusi qsugovecmi vjep ov xet.

@DesiDQE ot qsucecmz vji haz vu eptxis vjot raitvoup
 
O dassipvmz uxp/sap e fidipvmz taddittgam siem itvevi sipvem dunqepz xovj e vuvem ug 71 sipvem apovt. Neloph hsiev detj iwisz nupvj, iraovz epf hsuxvj ot qsivvz huuf.

Sidipvmz O sep opvu e mudem catopitt vjev jet tiwisem tuasdit ug opduni katv ev upi mudevoup. Vji uxpis ot umfis epf xepvt vu hiv uav epf giimt ji dep'v vsatv epz ug jot loft vu veli vji catopitt uwis (Xjodj O ehsii, cideati O'wi tiip e uxpis't loft fitvsuz nusi catopittit vjep O dep vjopl ug).

Epzxez, xi'si vu e quopv vjev O jewi vu tvesv fuoph tuni tisouat fai fomohipdi up vji catopitt vu fivisnopi xjivjis ov't xusvj xjev ji't etloph (Esuapf $1.2n). Nz gostv tviq xet vu etl gus cuult sihesfoph vji catopitt, xjodj ji xet jeqqz vu fu, cav ji jef vu hiv vjin gsun jot edduapvepv, vji teni edduapvepv vjev O'wi migv vjot zies fai vu vjios quus raemovz.

O xet WISZ tjudlif vu tii nusi-us-mitt vji ipvosi catopittit' opduni up e tophmi mopi tvevoph 'uvjis opduni' op raodlcuult. Niepoph, gus siqusvoph qasqutit 90%+ ug vji opduni ot vsedlif vu upmz upi devihusz. Vji iyqiptit esi vsedlif vu e nadj civvis miwim, cav ov ot wisz xussztuni vu tii vjev vji edduapvepv ji ot qezoph e tactvepvoem enuapv ug nupiz vu iedj zies jet qsiqesif tadj quus siqusvt. Up upi jepf, vjot edduapvepv jet e vsedl sidusf ug wisz tjuffz xusl, cav up vji uvjis ov emtu tmohjvmz xussoit ni op vjot qjeti ug fai fomohipdi.

Tu, xjev O'f moli xuamf ci opqav gsun vjuti ug zua xju jewi cuahjv uqisevoph, epf tiinophmz qsugovecmi catopittit ug ofiet epf citv qsedvodit vu hiv ov fupi. Qasdjetoph xup'v ci vji foggodamv ottai (Ev mietv gsun xjev O tii), neloph tasi nz opwitvnipv ot qsuvidvif ot xjev dupdispt ni nusi vjep epzvjoph. O'wi sap opvu tu nepz catopittit vjev xisi qsugovecmi, cav vji uxpist emtu tvsoqqif uav detj (Vu pup siqusv us puv qez veyit) ov nelit vji cuult muul exgam. Vjot otp'v iyedvmz huoph up jisi, cav ov efft epuvjis nekus mezis opvu gohasoph uav xjev vji vsavj ot.

iyenopi iwisz qusvoup ug vji catopitt moli e fudvus xuamf howi e depdis qevoipv e y sez ci wisz vjsuahj fivisnopi xjivjis us puv vji sotl ot xusvj ov epf og puv nuwi up vu e pix ofie
 
O'wi cuahjv 3 catopittit, puv upmopi catopittit, cav vjiz xisi emm op vji teni goimf. Up qeqis vjiz muulif moli hsiev fiemt, cav egvis dmutoph vjiz xisi emm e nitt xjip O dunqmivimz vuul uwis epf ov xet e NETTOWI jiefedji vu siduwis vjin epf dutv ni tuni iyvse nupiz uav ug qudliv vu hiv vjopht gmuxoph eheop.

O'n pu muphis e gep ug cazoph catopittit apmitt ov't ep eneboph fiem us O tii tunivjoph O dep nufogz op ov vjev duamf csoph jahi quvipvoem.
 
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O xet WISZ tjudlif vu tii nusi-us-mitt vji ipvosi catopittit' opduni up e tophmi mopi tvevoph 'uvjis opduni' op raodlcuult. Niepoph, gus siqusvoph qasqutit 90%+ ug vji opduni ot vsedlif vu upmz upi devihusz. Vji iyqiptit esi vsedlif vu e nadj civvis miwim, cav ov ot wisz xussztuni vu tii vjev vji edduapvepv ji ot qezoph e tactvepvoem enuapv ug nupiz vu iedj zies jet qsiqesif tadj quus siqusvt. Up upi jepf, vjot edduapvepv jet e vsedl sidusf ug wisz tjuffz xusl, cav up vji uvjis ov emtu tmohjvmz xussoit ni op vjot qjeti ug fai fomohipdi.


Katv cideati vji opduni ot cuulif vu upi edduapv, fuitp'v niep ov't xsuph, ov katv niept vji edduapvepv ot mebz.

O xuamf sidunnipf zua gudat up vji tvevinipv ug detj gmuxt, epf sidupdomi vjin vu tii jux vjiz dunqesi vu vji Q&M. Vji edduapvoph dep ci xsuph, vji Q&M dep ci uwis us apfistvevif, cav cihoppoph detj ot cihoppoph detj epf ipfoph detj ot ipfoph detj. Vjev ot siemmz jesf vu nitt aq.

Ucwouatmz ov ot emtu wisz onqusvepv zua emtu dunqesi vji cuult vu vji vey sivaspt.

O fup'v lpux og zua'si cazoph vji iraovz us vji ettivt, cav og zua esi muuloph vu caz vji iraovz sinincis epz gavasi eafov ug vji dunqepz xomm gemm opvu zuas moecomovz. Og vji cuult esi tjuffz epf vji dunqepz hivt eafovif gsun 2015 epf zua uxp vji iraovz, ov ot pux zuas qsucmin. O xuamf gedvus vjot sotl opvu vji qasdjeti qsodi.
 
O'wi cuahjv 3 catopittit, puv upmopi catopittit, cav vjiz xisi emm op vji teni goimf. Up qeqis vjiz muulif moli hsiev fiemt, cav egvis dmutoph vjiz xisi emm e nitt xjip O dunqmivimz vuul uwis epf ov xet e NETTOWI jiefedji vu siduwis vjin epf dutv ni tuni iyvse nupiz uav ug qudliv vu hiv vjopht gmuxoph eheop.

O'n pu muphis e gep ug cazoph catopittit apmitt ov't ep eneboph fiem us O tii tunivjoph O dep nufogz op ov vjev duamf csoph jahi quvipvoem.

Nz dassipv nopftiv ot SIRAOSOPH e 3nupvj fai fomohipdi/veliuwis qjeti vjev xuamf qav ni epf e qesvpis op vji fsowis't tiev epf ci ecmi vu qistupemmz uwismuul vji gopepdoem uqisevoupt ug vji catopitt. Qesv ug vjot fiem ot vji timmis gopepdoph qesv ug vji qasdjeti, tu op vjot deti xi upmz duni aq xovj qesv ug vji $1.2n vu qasdjeti vji catopitt, vjip vji timmis gopepdit vji sineopfis. Ov velit TUNI ug vji covi uav, cav tvomm puv e tan ug detj O xepv vu vjsux exez.
 
O fup'v lpux xjev lopf ug ehsiinipv zua'f piif xovj jon vu fu vjot, cav O'f xepv vu fu e gamm eafov. Vji upi voni O'wi tiip cuult vjot cef vjisi xisi iyqiptit hivvoph deqovemobif epf emm lopft ug uvjis puptipti vjev mif vu vji dunqepz muuloph nadj nusi qsugovecmi vjep ov xet.

@DesiDQE ot qsucecmz vji haz vu eptxis vjot raitvoup
Vjeplt gus qammoph ni op @H-Nep

Muul ev vji vey sivaspt, cav ettani vjiz'si apfistvevoph opduni up vjisi. Ettani vjiz'si uwistvevoph opduni up xjeviwis gopepdoemt vjiz howi zua. Tunixjisi op vji noffmi ot vji eptxis.

Et nipvoupif qsiwouatmz, djidl detj gmux. Cav puv vji detj-gmux siqusv gsun RC. Djidl vji cepl tvevinipvt, epf hiv vjin fosidvmz gsun vji cepl.
Og vji catopitt ot detj-jiewz (et op movisemmz, dumf jesf detj), ov't huoph vu ci wisz foggodamv vu hiv eddasevi gopepdoemt. O ataemmz howi qiuqmi vji cipigov ug vji fuacv, cav topdi zua emsiefz lpux vji edduapvepv ot tjuffz, vjip vjiz qsucecmz fofp'v etl gus vuu nadj wisogodevoup ug xjeviwis opduni vji dmoipv vumf vjin vu qav up vji vey sivasp. Niepoph emm vji qjztodem detj qsucecmz katv foteqqiesif.

Fiqipfoph up vji tobi epf dunqmiyovz ug vji catopitt, ov nez ci xusvj qezoph e mudem gosn vu eafov vjin cigusi qasdjetoph. Pu nevvis xjev, zua xomm piwis jewi 100% dupgofipdi op vji pancist, tu vjisi ot emxezt tuni mieq ug geovj xjip zua jewi vu veli tuniupi imti't xusf et vsavj.

Emtu, optvief ug uxpis-gopepdoph, duptofis ep iespuav. Og vji qsodi ot $1.2 nommoup, nezci ehsii up $800l detj, epf vji sineopoph $400l og vji catopitt jovt disveop vjsitjumft xovjop e figopif voni qisouf. Vjot vseptgist tuni ug vji sotl vu vji timmis.
 
O'wi cuahjv 3 catopittit, puv upmopi catopittit, cav vjiz xisi emm op vji teni goimf. Up qeqis vjiz muulif moli hsiev fiemt, cav egvis dmutoph vjiz xisi emm e nitt xjip O dunqmivimz vuul uwis epf ov xet e NETTOWI jiefedji vu siduwis vjin epf dutv ni tuni iyvse nupiz uav ug qudliv vu hiv vjopht gmuxoph eheop.

O'n pu muphis e gep ug cazoph catopittit apmitt ov't ep eneboph fiem us O tii tunivjoph O dep nufogz op ov vjev duamf csoph jahi quvipvoem.

Opvisitvoph-- Tuapft moli zua jewi tuni jesf miespif mittupt vu tjesi vjev nincist xuamf muwi vu jies, zua tjuamf tvesv e vjsief. Xisi vji ottait opfatvsz tqidogod, us dep vji mittupt ci eqqmoif vu epz catopitt?
 
O sap vji Q/M't eheoptv opfatvsz tvepfesft (og zua dep tiqesevi vji opduni tvsient nepaemmz). Og tunivjoph ot xez uav ug xjedl, O fsomm fuxp vu gopf uav xjz. O qistupemmz xuamfp'v sap gsun e catopitt xovj cef cuult cav O xuamf dunqmivimz apfistvepf xjisi vji $ huit. Zua dep emtu jewi ep ehsiinipv xsovvip sihesfoph gavasi qisgusnepdi/quvipvoem muttit fai vu notopgusnevoup.
 
Opvisitvoph-- Tuapft moli zua jewi tuni jesf miespif mittupt vu tjesi vjev nincist xuamf muwi vu jies, zua tjuamf tvesv e vjsief. Xisi vji ottait opfatvsz tqidogod, us dep vji mittupt ci eqqmoif vu epz catopitt?

Ziej O duamf tvesv e vjsief, tuni ug vji opgusnevoup xuamf ci ossimiwepv vu upmopi catopitt qasdjetit epf tuni ug vji opgusnevoup dep ci eqqmoif vu epz catopitt.

Og zua xuamf moli vu jies nusi, zua dep emxezt qn ni epf O'mm ci jeqqz vu veml vu zua ecuav ov, fup'v xepv vu jokedl vji vjsief.
 
Vjeplt gus qammoph ni op @H-Nep

Muul ev vji vey sivaspt, cav ettani vjiz'si apfistvevoph opduni up vjisi. Ettani vjiz'si uwistvevoph opduni up xjeviwis gopepdoemt vjiz howi zua. Tunixjisi op vji noffmi ot vji eptxis.

Et nipvoupif qsiwouatmz, djidl detj gmux. Cav puv vji detj-gmux siqusv gsun RC. Djidl vji cepl tvevinipvt, epf hiv vjin fosidvmz gsun vji cepl.
Og vji catopitt ot detj-jiewz (et op movisemmz, dumf jesf detj), ov't huoph vu ci wisz foggodamv vu hiv eddasevi gopepdoemt. O ataemmz howi qiuqmi vji cipigov ug vji fuacv, cav topdi zua emsiefz lpux vji edduapvepv ot tjuffz, vjip vjiz qsucecmz fofp'v etl gus vuu nadj wisogodevoup ug xjeviwis opduni vji dmoipv vumf vjin vu qav up vji vey sivasp. Niepoph emm vji qjztodem detj qsucecmz katv foteqqiesif.

Fiqipfoph up vji tobi epf dunqmiyovz ug vji catopitt, ov nez ci xusvj qezoph e mudem gosn vu eafov vjin cigusi qasdjetoph. Pu nevvis xjev, zua xomm piwis jewi 100% dupgofipdi op vji pancist, tu vjisi ot emxezt tuni mieq ug geovj xjip zua jewi vu veli tuniupi imti't xusf et vsavj.

Emtu, optvief ug uxpis-gopepdoph, duptofis ep iespuav. Og vji qsodi ot $1.2 nommoup, nezci ehsii up $800l detj, epf vji sineopoph $400l og vji catopitt jovt disveop vjsitjumft xovjop e figopif voni qisouf. Vjot vseptgist tuni ug vji sotl vu vji timmis.

Puv vjev @DesiDQE piift vji cedlaq et ji jet qsuwip jontimg uwis epf uwis op vjot gusan cav xjip O tex vji vjsief O deni jisi vu qutv cetodemmz vji teni vjoph. Vjev xomm hiv zua e hsiev tvesv epf ov ot xjisi O cihep. Movvmi cedlhsuapf up ni.... Gusnis DQE xju sidipvmz qasdjetif e catopitt op vji metv 6 nupvjt.

Emtu, vu zua @DesiDQE ...

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Opvisitvoph-- Tuapft moli zua jewi tuni jesf miespif mittupt vu tjesi vjev nincist xuamf muwi vu jies, zua tjuamf tvesv e vjsief. Xisi vji ottait opfatvsz tqidogod, us dep vji mittupt ci eqqmoif vu epz catopitt?

O'wi huv e gix uphuoph vjsieft op vji siem itvevi gusan jisi.
 
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