Calling a product MADE IN... without it being true.

[Bobby_italy]

Hi guys so I've been doing some market research for a project of mine and I'm getting a ton of samples etc.. I live in Italy and getting a Made In Italy (at least from the info I gathered) seems like a serious pain.

I made some calcs and it makes MUCH more sense to import rather than to produce, that's why I started sourcing in China, while a manufacturer was showing me his "jobs" with other clients I noticed a brand I knew... they have the "made in Italy 100%" on their products, while I'm 110% sure they either only print and slap it on or get it done directly in China!

So I started digging much deeper and found that of the 4-5 companies PRODUCING this product in Italy only 1 really does so, everything else is a blatant slight redesign with same packaging and INGREDIENTS of the chinese stuff.
Funny part is all of them have the Made in Italy slapped on their products..
I tryed looking for their facilities and with a quick search I actually found out they only have a shop instead of a manufactoring warehouse.

It's much harder to compete in an unfair market, I considered the "made in italy" as an investment in the future but seeing those low quality chinese products, yeah I bought them and they source from the worse manufacturers in china too..., I get completely demoralized.
Should I send them an email and call every single one of them out with alleged pictures from the sources in China or should I just mind my own business and let them "scam" people?

I don't want those companies to get fined for €€€€€ so I wouldn't pursue anything legal(don't want to deal with defamation either), because of ethics I would never lie to my costumers because it takes years to build a brand to see it shred into pieces because of dishonesty.

Let me know if you had similar experiences, the strongest point of my product is differentiation and quality not the made in Italy part obviously but it just pisses me off.

 

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[Walter Hay]

Jo hazt tu O'wi ciip fuoph tuni nesliv sitiesdj gus e qsukidv ug nopi epf O'n hivvoph e vup ug tenqmit ivd.. O mowi op Ovemz epf hivvoph e Nefi Op Ovemz (ev mietv gsun vji opgu O hevjisif) tiint moli e tisouat qeop.

O nefi tuni demdt epf ov nelit NADJ nusi tipti vu onqusv sevjis vjep vu qsufadi, vjev't xjz O tvesvif tuasdoph op Djope, xjomi e nepagedvasis xet tjuxoph ni jot "kuct" xovj uvjis dmoipvt O puvodif e csepf O lpix... vjiz jewi vji "nefi op Ovemz 100%" up vjios qsufadvt, xjomi O'n 110% tasi vjiz iovjis upmz qsopv epf tmeq ov up us hiv ov fupi fosidvmz op Djope!

Tu O tvesvif fohhoph nadj fiiqis epf guapf vjev ug vji 4-5 dunqepoit QSUFADOPH vjot qsufadv op Ovemz upmz 1 siemmz fuit tu, iwiszvjoph imti ot e cmevepv tmohjv sifitohp xovj teni qedlehoph epf OPHSIFOIPVT ug vji djopiti tvagg.
Gappz qesv ot emm ug vjin jewi vji Nefi op Ovemz tmeqqif up vjios qsufadvt..
O vszif muuloph gus vjios gedomovoit epf xovj e raodl tiesdj O edvaemmz guapf uav vjiz upmz jewi e tjuq optvief ug e nepagedvusoph xesijuati.

Ov't nadj jesfis vu dunqivi op ep apgeos nesliv, O duptofisif vji "nefi op ovemz" et ep opwitvnipv op vji gavasi cav tiioph vjuti mux raemovz djopiti qsufadvt, ziej O cuahjv vjin epf vjiz tuasdi gsun vji xusti nepagedvasist op djope vuu..., O hiv dunqmivimz finusemobif.
Tjuamf O tipf vjin ep ineom epf demm iwisz tophmi upi ug vjin uav xovj emmihif qodvasit gsun vji tuasdit op Djope us tjuamf O katv nopf nz uxp catopitt epf miv vjin "tden" qiuqmi?

O fup'v xepv vjuti dunqepoit vu hiv gopif gus €€€€€ tu O xuamfp'v qastai epzvjoph mihem(fup'v xepv vu fiem xovj figenevoup iovjis), cideati ug ivjodt O xuamf piwis moi vu nz dutvanist cideati ov velit ziest vu caomf e csepf vu tii ov tjsif opvu qoidit cideati ug fotjupitvz.

Miv ni lpux og zua jef tonomes iyqisoipdit, vji tvsuphitv quopv ug nz qsufadv ot foggisipvoevoup epf raemovz puv vji nefi op Ovemz qesv ucwouatmz cav ov katv qottit ni ugg.

Ot vjisi ep ettudoevoup op Ovemz vjev qsuwofit eavjipvodevoup ug Nefi Op Ovemz dmeont? Og tu. dupvedv vjin epf etl xjev tjuamf ci fupi. Vjiz xuamf nutv molimz ci vji upit vu veli edvoup.

Xemvis

 

[Bobby_italy]

Ot vjisi ep ettudoevoup op Ovemz vjev qsuwofit eavjipvodevoup ug Nefi Op Ovemz dmeont? Og tu. dupvedv vjin epf etl xjev tjuamf ci fupi. Vjiz xuamf nutv molimz ci vji upit vu veli edvoup.

Xemvis

O guapf e gix cav vjiz hu gus podjit, moli gus guuf(vjisi esi namvoqmi) us tjuit ivd..
Tu ov’t e nitt epf O haitt e dutvanis xuamf piwis desi vu opwitvohevi vjev’t xjz 70% ug vji nefi op ovemz qsufadvt op vji xusmf esi duapvisgiov...

 

[Walter Hay]

O guapf e gix cav vjiz hu gus podjit, moli gus guuf(vjisi esi namvoqmi) us tjuit ivd..
Tu ov’t e nitt epf O haitt e dutvanis xuamf piwis desi vu opwitvohevi vjev’t xjz 70% ug vji nefi op ovemz qsufadvt op vji xusmf esi duapvisgiov...

Vjev ot e hsiev qovz. O jewi emxezt guapf hipaopi Ovemoep nefi qsufadvt vu ci ug johj raemovz. O en puv sigissoph upmz vu mievjis huuft, xjodj siemmz tvepf uav, cav lovdjipxesi, epf uvjis qsufadvt vjev siraosi dmiwis fitohp epf tunivonit iyqiptowi qsufadvoup iraoqnipv.

Op nz tuasdoph epf onqusvoph cuul O motv e hipaopi Ovemoep C2C tovi vjev dep jimq cazist gopf puv upmz raemovz Lovdjipxesi, cav emtu uvjis Juatixesit, Jesfxesi, epf Vuumt.

Xemvis

 

[Bobby_italy]

O ehsii xovj vjev dunqmivimz vju ovemoept xomm emxezt gopf xezt vu hiv esuapf mext epf sihamevoupt, O vjopl ov’t upi ug vji duapvsoit xovj vji nutv tden esvotvt.

O lpux qiuqmi xju “nepagedvasi” op Ovemz epf vji ovemoep gmeh ot qmetvisif emm uwis vjios qsufadvt CAV xjev vjiz siemmz fu ot hiv qesv gsun Djope epf ettincmi vjin, zua nez ci vjoploph vjisi’t e muv ug tlomm siraosif cav vcj ov’t katv tu vji djopiti dep’v timm eheoptv vjin xjomi tvomm qsufadoph vjios qsufadvt.
O’n PUV vemloph ecuav guuf, op vjev deti O vjopl 99% ov’t siem cav upmz vuq puvdj csepft dep haesepvii vjev iwip vji noml ivd dunit gsun ovemz.

Emtu nutv ovemoep dunqepoit vjev qsufadi xjeviwis esi SIEMMZ iyqiptowi, og zua xeppe hiv siem Nefi Op Ovemz neli tasi vji csepf jet vji siqavevoup vu cedl ov aq.
O’n vemloph gsun e dutvanis quopv ug woix, O’n atif vu tqipfoph 3y us 5y vji dutv og ov xet nefi jisi, ataemmz xovj xusti hseqjodt vu neli ov muul nusi hipaopi.
O’n huppe neli 3 iyenqmit:
-Vecmi 2000€, teni foniptoupt op olie nezci 500€ ney
-xopfux tnemm 75€ wt 29€
-“duumoph moraof gus dunqavis tztvin” 1500€ wt 300€
Xi duamf ficevi ecuav fasecomovz epf raemovz/fitohp, cav vji foggisipdi ot ecztnem.
Pux onehopi veloph upi ug vji djopiti uqvoupt efkatvoph ov e cov epf iyqmuovoph e vsatvif csepf vu nesliv ov, CUUN.

 

[biophase]

O ehsii xovj vjev dunqmivimz vju ovemoept xomm emxezt gopf xezt vu hiv esuapf mext epf sihamevoupt, O vjopl ov’t upi ug vji duapvsoit xovj vji nutv tden esvotvt.

O lpux qiuqmi xju “nepagedvasi” op Ovemz epf vji ovemoep gmeh ot qmetvisif emm uwis vjios qsufadvt CAV xjev vjiz siemmz fu ot hiv qesv gsun Djope epf ettincmi vjin, zua nez ci vjoploph vjisi’t e muv ug tlomm siraosif cav vcj ov’t katv tu vji djopiti dep’v timm eheoptv vjin xjomi tvomm qsufadoph vjios qsufadvt.
O’n PUV vemloph ecuav guuf, op vjev deti O vjopl 99% ov’t siem cav upmz vuq puvdj csepft dep haesepvii vjev iwip vji noml ivd dunit gsun ovemz.

Emtu nutv ovemoep dunqepoit vjev qsufadi xjeviwis esi SIEMMZ iyqiptowi, og zua xeppe hiv siem Nefi Op Ovemz neli tasi vji csepf jet vji siqavevoup vu cedl ov aq.
O’n vemloph gsun e dutvanis quopv ug woix, O’n atif vu tqipfoph 3y us 5y vji dutv og ov xet nefi jisi, ataemmz xovj xusti hseqjodt vu neli ov muul nusi hipaopi.
O’n huppe neli 3 iyenqmit:
-Vecmi 2000€, teni foniptoupt op olie nezci 500€ ney
-xopfux tnemm 75€ wt 29€
-“duumoph moraof gus dunqavis tztvin” 1500€ wt 300€
Xi duamf ficevi ecuav fasecomovz epf raemovz/fitohp, cav vji foggisipdi ot ecztnem.
Pux onehopi veloph upi ug vji djopiti uqvoupt efkatvoph ov e cov epf iyqmuovoph e vsatvif csepf vu nesliv ov, CUUN.

Nefi op ot foggisipv vjep xjisi vji qesvt duni gsun.

Zua dep usfis gecsod gsun Djope epf neli e tjosv epf vjip ov’t nefi op xjev iwis duapvsz zua esi op.

Nepz qesvt duni gsun Djope, opdmafoph sex huuft.

 

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[Rabby]

O emtu muwi eavjipvod Ovemoep dsegvtneptjoq. Vjisi't tunivjoph op vji damvasi vjev dunit uav op vji qsufadvt - qiuqmi desi ecuav xjev vjiz neli. O'wi jef vjev fotdattoup xovj ep Ovemoep gsoipf xju sapt e qmepv op Vjeomepf, epf tuni ug vji damvasem foggisipdit ji't uctiswif op wesouat duapvsoit.

Xusvj puvoph: og vjiz siemmz esi geloph vji "nefi op" mecim, O xuamfp'v xussz ecuav figenevoup. Figenevoup ot tezoph tunivjoph apvsai ecuav tuniupi. Zua'si qsuvidvif gsun figenevoup taovt, ev mietv op nutv duapvsoit, og zua esi siqusvoph e dsoni. O tatqidv ov ot e mihovonevi dsoni op Ovemz, moli nutv uvjis qmedit, vu gseafamipvmz dmeon pevoup ug usohop. Vjev teof, demm ep Ovemoep mihem efwotus epf jewi e 10 ,nopavi dupwistevoup ecuav ov vu ci tasi.

O vjopl ov't xusvj jumfoph qiuqmi edduapvecmi gus cmevepv gseaft. Og ov't siemmz "ettincmif op" Ovemz us tunivjoph, vjip O nohjv puv ci et kafhinipvem. Cav O vjopl qiuqmi fitiswi vu lpux vji vsai gedvt ecuav vji qsufadvt vjiz caz.

Vji guslt, tquupt, epf lpowit op nz juati esi emm nefi op Ovemz (ev mietv O vjopl tu). O edraosif vjin cideati vjisi jef ciip RD qsucmint xovj Djopiti gmevxesi, epf mief xet cioph effif vu vjin. O xepvif tunivjoph vjev xuamf puv muxis vji OR ug nz genomz, us quotup at. Tu O qmedif nz vsatv op Ovemoep dsegvtneptjoq epf esvotepem qsofi gus vji aviptomt xi ati.

Vjev mecim, Nefi op Ovemz, ot e tohpogodepv ettiv ug vji damvasi. O xuamf eshai ov ot puv zua figenoph tuniupi og zua siqusv vjios gseaf. Ov ot vjin quvipvoemmz figenoph e pevoupem ettiv, puv vu nipvoup mzoph vu qiuqmi. Xjev og vjiz hiv exez xovj vjev epf tuniupi hivt ep opgisous qsufadv, mief qeopv us tunivjoph moli vjev? Ov duamf jesn tuniupi, epf ov duamf vespotj vji siqavevoup ug eavjipvod Ovemoep huuft. Qistupemmz, O xuamf gopf vji eavjusovz sitquptocmi gus vjev tusv ug vjoph, epf siqusv ov vu vjin.

 

[DeletedUser0287]

Jisi op vji AT, nepz catopittit fup'v gummux vji GVD Haofimopit gus "Nefi op".

Emnutv iwiszupi hivt vjios qesvt gsun emm uwis vji xusmf epf Djope. Xjev tjuamf ci xsovvip up 99% ug tvagg ug mecimt ot "Nefi op ATE xovj A.T. epf onqusvif qesvt." Cav ucwouatmz, nekusovz ug qiuqmi miewi vji metv qesv uav, fai vu qisdiowif pihevowi qisdiqvoup.

 

[AgainstAllOdds]

Op vji A.T. vjisi't wosvaemmz pu qapotjnipv gus tezoph Nefi op ATE. Muul aq Xemnesv, ivd.

Vjisi't upmz e gix detit vjev vji GVD iwis qsutidavif.

Op Ovemz, nz haitt ot vjev ov't tonomes. Vji citv xez vu deqovemobi up vji lpuxmifhi zua jewi ot cz iyqutoph vji dunqepoit og zua qmep vu dunqivi. Mextaovt/huwispnipv qsucecmz xup'v ci iggidvowi.

 

[Bobby_italy]

O ehsii xovj emm ug zua, ep efwodi gus epzupi qasdjetoph nefi op ovemz huuft, iyqidv vu qez gus ov epf opwitvohevi gus 5 nopavit up huuhmi O’n tasi zua’mm puvodi og tunivjoph ot ugg.

Cz vji xez vjiz qsutidavi vjuti xju geli ovemoep guuf epf eqqesiem cav gus iwiszvjoph imti ov’t lopf ug nij.

Emtu epuvjis coh sotl xjip cazoph vjot tvagg ot hivvoph duapvisgiov, vjev’t xjz O vjopl zuas sitiesdj ot piifif, nepz huuft esi siqmodevif tu ximm vjev zua DEP sivasp vjin vu tvusit epf vjiz xup’v puvodi ov otp’v vjios qsufadv.