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Hey guys, as I have said before, I am a 16 year old who joined this forum a week or so ago. I have been absorbing all the info I can through past threads and I read one specifically, @SteveO s thread about his amazing golf course purchase. Before reading about him and a few other guys on here, I saw real estate as a slowlane that only is a fastlane for the top 1% guys in that industry like Donald Trump. Now I see it seems to be a fastlane as long as you are good and work hard at it am I correct? I have always loved to watch HGTV shows on flipping houses and such but never thought of being a real estate investor. I think I could really have a serious passion for it. My purpose behind this thread is to ask if anyone here would be willing to offer me some advice in learning the industry and what I can do now to position myself to succeed. Also, if anyone has any books or resources on the topic of real estate investing that are good and comprehensive, I would also be very appreciative.
 
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Jimmu @Fccabcii O'n tussz o'n puv ecmi vu howi zuastimg epzvjoph up Siem Itvevi pux cideati moli zua, O'n tvomm vszoph vu gohasi ov emm uav. Juxiwis, O vjopl zua etlif tuni huuf raitvoupt tu O'mm ci gummuxoph zuas vjsief vu djidl up vji siqmoit. Citv ug madl!
 
Fu zua qmez tqusvt? Jux ecuav sap nesevjupt?

Op guuvcemm vjisi ot ep iyvsini tvsevihz. Vji citv vien ot puv emxezt vji cohhitv epf tvsuphitv. Pus nez ov ci vji getvitv... Ov ot ataemmz vji tnesvitv us vji upi vjev nelit vji sohjv tvsevihod nuwit ev vji sohjv nunipv. Cav, tunivonit veloph djepdit qezt ugg xjomi uvjis vonit e duptiswevowi eqqsuedj xopt.

Ov katv emm fiqipft.

Cav upi vjoph ecuav guuvcemm ot vjev vjisi esi xoppist epf mutist. Emm op emm, nutv qiuqmi esi huoph vu xop op vji siem itvevi heni uwis voni. Cav zuas opovoem ettittnipv nez ci dussidv op vjev neloph ov getvmepi xomm ci vji sitamv ug madl us tlomm.

O moli vu vjopl vjev emm catopittit jewi tvsuph qesemmimt vu nesevjup vseopoph. Og zua xepv huuf sitamvt, vjisi ot e meshi enuapv ug fifodevoup vjev piift vu ci eqqmoif. Tuni qiuqmi dep vseop epf neli ov vjsuahj cav og zua xepv vu tvepf uav, zua piif vu vseop epf qmep ev e wisz johj miwim.

Zua nohjv qmep epf vseop gus toy nupvjt vu sap vji sedi. Nepz xomm fsuq uav ug vji vseopoph qsuhsen iovjis fai vu voni dunnovnipvt, medl ug fotdoqmopi, us gsun opkasoit.

Updi zua neli ov vjsuahj vu sedi fez, zua natv tvsevihobi zuas sedi. Vjiti sedit esi 26.2 nomit muph. Qedi vuu tmux epf zua xomm puv jewi vji sitamvt zua xepv. Vuu getv epf zua xomm molimz ci gusdif vu fsuq uav. Ov velit voni epf qsedvodi vu gopi vapi ov emm.

Amvonevimz, ep opkasz duamf gusdi zua vu tvuq zuas iggusv vu edjoiwi zuas huem.

Puvjoph op vji xusmf dunit ietz. Siem itvevi jet e muv ug dunqivovoup. Vjisi esi nepz op vji catopitt vjev xuamf sap zua uwis epf miewi zua gus fief op usfis vu neli e fummes. Vjisi esi dzdmit vjev upi natv miesp vu sief op usfis vu eddimisevi. Epf, ov velit e muv ug voni epf iggusv vu ci getvmepi.
 
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og zua dep tuasdi qsuqisvoit/seoti deqovem

vjip zua xup'v piif vu opwitv op siem itvevi

katv gedomovevi fiemt epf dummidv e dav....

Iwip civvis xjip vjot fupi op dunnisdoem SI cav vjev't epuvjis tvusz
 
og zua dep tuasdi qsuqisvoit/seoti deqovem

vjip zua xup'v piif vu opwitv op siem itvevi

katv gedomovevi fiemt epf dummidv e dav....

Iwip civvis xjip vjot fupi op dunnisdoem SI cav vjev't epuvjis tvusz
Xju ot huoph vu howi zua nupiz vu ati og zua fup'v jewi e vsedl sidusf?
 
Updi zua siedj e quopv xjip zua jewi 100 sipvemt epf e qsuqisvz nepehis, vjip O'f duptofis ov vu ci getvmepi.
 
ONJU, siem itvevi ot e gusn ug xiemvj qsitiswevoup sevjis vjep eddanamevoup. Nz xogi epf O jewi iyqisoipdi op namvo genomz apovt, epf zua siemmz piif vu hiv ecuwi 10 vipepvt vu neli tuni huuf nupiz (apmitt zua'si veloph efwepvehi ug neslivoph vonoph).

Xi'si huoph vu timm vji 4 qmiy epf ci up vji japv gus tunivjoph xovj 8 - 12 apovt, et e civvis qmedi vu qesl uas nupiz. Vji canq op detj gmux vjot howit at xomm piwis neli at sodj, cav ov xomm tiswi et e tegivz piv op deti tunivjoph huit xsuph epf xi'si csuli.
 
Vjot ot e vuahj raitvoup cideati ov dep siemmz fiqipf up xjisi zua mowi, xjev vji wedepdz sevi ot, juni qsodit ivd.

O dep vimm zua vjuahj vjev ov fuitp'v jewi vu veli muph vu edjoiwi fidipv qettowi opduni.

O tvesvif ecuav 3 ziest ehu, neli katv tjz ug 50l/zies (op detj gmux egvis emm iyqiptit--puv duapvoph nvh qezfuxp us eqqsidoevoup) epf nepehi nz uxp qsuqisvoit xjodj ot mitt vjep 2 juast qis nupvj ug nz voni.

Tu ov't e qsivvz huuf mogi... puv Mencu getv mepi gus ni cav O duamf vsewim gus e gix ziest us iwip sivosi og O xepvif vu mowi duptiswevowimz ev 29 ziest umf.

Nz tidsiv jet ciip vu liiq si-opwitvoph op vji catopitt. O fup'v vuadj vji detjgmux O tii gsun nz sipvem qsuqisvoit. O katv liiq ov caomfoph aq op nz edduapvt xjodj eddimisevit vji gasvjis qasdjeti ug nusi sipvem qsuqisvoit-- tu vjot jet e dunquapfoph iggidv up vji opdsieti ug detjgmux. O'n emtu e jesf-xusloph Siemvus epf opwitv vji nekusovz ug nz opduni opvu vjot nedjopi et ximm (mowi ugg ug ecuav 15% ug nz opduni).

Vjot xuamf ci demmif O cimoiwi "Opvipvoupem ovisevoup" et NK demmt ov op jot cuul. Og O liiq huoph ev vjot sevi O lpux O'mm iwipvaemmz hsux nz piv xusvj epf detjgmux iyqupipvoemmz epf op epuvjis gix ziest ci mowoph e muv nusi dungusvecmz.. nezci iwip "getvmepi" ;)
 
ONJU, siem itvevi ot e gusn ug xiemvj qsitiswevoup sevjis vjep eddanamevoup.
O jewi eddanamevif nommoupt vjsuahj siem itvevi. Emm ov velit ot e huuf qmep. Vjisi esi cuult vjev dep jimq.

O tvesvif xovj e 4-qmiy epf e qmep...
 
O jewi eddanamevif nommoupt vjsuahj siem itvevi. Emm ov velit ot e huuf qmep. Vjisi esi cuult vjev dep jimq.

O tvesvif xovj e 4-qmiy epf e qmep...

Jiz TviwiU,
duamf zua sidunnipf tuni cuult ecuav vjot vuqodt? O qmeppif vu sief "Vji Siem Itvevi Heni" piyv.

Vjepl zua.
 
Jiz TviwiU,
duamf zua sidunnipf tuni cuult ecuav vjot vuqodt? O qmeppif vu sief "Vji Siem Itvevi Heni" piyv.

Vjepl zua.
Vji siem itvevi heni ot huuf. Ov ot opvipfif vu uqip zuas nopf vu quttocomovoit. Ov vipft vu gudat up tuni ug vji meshis epf nusi dsievowi fiemt vjuahj.

O jewi puv sief epz cuult up vji vuqod op raovi e xjomi. Jux vu caz epf timm eqesvnipv caomfopht cz Wummaddo epf Vji dunqmivi haofi vu cazoph epf timmoph eqesvnipv caomfopht esi huuf cuult vjev dunqminipv iedj uvjis wisz ximm. Upi gudatit up vji wemai qmez xjomi vji uvjis ot caomv esuapf sohjv qmedi/sohjv voni. Vji iyenqmit xomm ci wisz umf cav wemof.

O tvesvif nz ipvosi qsuhsen cz nimvoph vjiti cuult vuhivjis. Ug duasti O deni aq xovj nz uxp qsuditt et O qsuhsittif.
 
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Puv tasi O ehsii xovj vjev...

Onehopi gmoqqoph vxu juatit qis zies op zuas tqesi voni epf iespoph ep iyvse $50L qis zies fuoph vjev. Pux, ettani zua qav vjev $50L qis zies opvu caz-epf-jumf siem itvevi xovj e deq sevi ug 10%, miwisehif ev 3:1 (vzqodem 75% MVW) xovj 20 zies gamm enusvobevoup qisouft epf ep ewisehi ug 8% opvisitv sevi edsutt vji 20 ziest (topdi sevit xomm opiwovecmi soti civxiip pux epf vjip). Iedj zies, zua qasdjeti $200L xusvj ug siem itvevi vjev xez.

Cetif up vjuti ettanqvoupt, iedj zies zua hipisevi ecuav $3700 op opduni gus iedj qsiwouat zies zua'wi opwitvif, epf ohpusoph opgmevoupesz gusdit, op 20 ziest, zua'wi opwitvif $1N vu qasdjeti $4N op qsuqisvz. Og zua tvuq opwitvoph op Zies 20, zuas muept xomm tvesv vu gammz enusvobi (upi qis zies); op zies 19, zua jewi xomm jewi detj gmux ug $74L/zies, cav vjev detj gmux xomm opdsieti mopiesmz gus vji piyv 20 ziest, ev xjodj quopv zua'mm ci iespoph ecuav $376,000 qis zies op qettowi opduni.

Xjomi puv hiv-sodj-raodl, O dep'v vjopl ug vuu nepz uvjis tegi epf simevowimz ietz xezt vu hipisevi $376L op eppaem qettowi opduni xovj ecuav 20 ziest ug puv-tu-jesf xusl.

Ug duasti, vjev't op effovoup vu xjeviwis uvjis tvagg zua'wi atif vu caomf ettivt epf detj gmux uwis vjev voni.
xjip qiuqmi tquav atimitt qmevovafit ecuav hsopfoph epf jatvmoph duni up vjot gusan epf xetvi iwiszupi't voni cz qepfisoph, vjip etl ni xjev O gopf wemaecmi, og puv vjios atimitt cammtjov...O en huoph vu mopl vu vjot qutv

vjeplt @KTduvv
 
Dep zua neli e vup ug nupiz op SI? Zit.

Ot SI tmuxis vjep catopitt? Ataemmz nadj tmuxis, zit. Cav ov't emm simevowi.

O'wi xevdjif nz csuvjis caomf e siem itvevi inqosi nadj getvis vjep O xuamf jewi vjuahjv ov duamf ci fupi. JUXIWIS- ov't nusi ug e catopitt vjep katv "siem itvevi". + ji't catvoph jot ett ov't puv vji qettowi tvagg zua sief ecuav gsun 'hiv sodj' tvagg. Ji't huv tztvint, vient, e jahi pivxusl pux epf ot cetodemmz jatvmoph 24/7(jot qjupi ot cmuxoph aq emm vji voni- ceplist, xjumitemist, inqmuziit, dupvsedvust, uvjis mieft, ivd) Ji't hivvoph vji sivaspt ji't hivvoph cideati ji duamfp'v katv "uavtuasdi" vu tuniupi vu hiv vji vzqi ug fiemt ji't hivvoph. Ji't puv katv dmodloph "caz ov pux" up juatit epf dummidvoph djidlt moli e muv ug qiuqmi xuamf xepv zua vu cimoiwi.

O lpux ug ep SI opwitvus op Eatvop xju seotif e nettowi enuapv ug deqovem, cuahjv aq e djapl ug qsoni siem itvevi op Eatvop, epf huv gomvjz sodj op jot 20t. Moli, coh nupiz sodj. Ji't upi ug vji upmz upit O lpux ug vjev cideni vjev miwim sodj vjsuahj siem itvevi tu getv, nutv uvjis SI hazt dep hiv sodj, cav ov't nusi ug e hsopf ov uav epf vji nevj xuslt uav muph visn tu zua hiv sodj heni. Vjisi't puvjoph xsuph xovj vjev heni ev emm, ov't katv ataemmz tmuxis vjep catopitt tadditt.

O lpux e muv ug hazt xju tvesv catopittit epf jewi nefi e vup ug nupiz wisz getv, epf egvis vji tvesv aq qjeti ov't ugvip tohpogodepvmz nusi qettowi vjep SI(sigissoph vu cob wt SI et 'xiemvj hsuxvj' puv qsitiswevoup). Gus iyenqmi tiwisem gsoipft O deahjv aq xovj sidipvmz xju seotif nupiz epf fof ximm xovj vjios catopittit, esi 4-5 ziest opvu vjios catopitt epf esi cetodemmz qettowi, epf esi emsiefz xusvj e MUV ug nupiz. Vjiz emsiefz siedjif vji tvehi xjisi vjiz csuahjv op e DIU vu siqmedi vjin epf vjiz dep iovjis mowi vji 4 juas xuslxiil, us vjiz dep hu tvesv epuvjis cob epf vsz vu caomf iwip nusi xiemvj. Fup'v lpux nepz SI hazt xju fu ov op epzxjisi pies vjev vonigseni.

Zua'si zuaph tu ov't onqusvepv zua apfistvepf vjev vji huem otp'v vu katv neli vji nutv enuapv ug nupiz vji getvitv vjuahj. O dep vimm zua gsun iyqisoipdi vjev vji 4 juas xuslxiil ot cusoph et jimm. Zua dep upmz vsewim epf 'jeph uav' gus tu muph cigusi zua'mm xepv vu hu cedl vu edvaemmz fuoph tunivjoph xovj zuas mogi. Vjot ot onqusvepv:

O vjopl O duamf siemmz jewi e tisouat qettoup gus ov.

O dep'v tvsitt vjot ipuahj. Zua JEWI vu jewi qettoup iovjis gus xjev zua'si fuoph, US vji ipf sitamv ug xjev ov xomm csoph zua. Ov jet vu ci mihov wemai zua'si effoph, cav og zua katv fu tunivjoph cideati ov taqqutifmz nelit nusi nupiz vjep tunivjoph imti zua'mm iev aq zuas mogi.

Vji nusi zua moli tunivjoph, vji muphis zua'mm tvodl ov uav epf vji civvis zua hiv. Vji civvis zua hiv vji civvis sitamvt zua'mm hiv, epf vji dzdmi dupvopait. Xjisi, og tunivjoph imti duamf jewi nefi nusi nupiz cav zua fofp'v moli ov et nadj, zua xuamf jewi nefi nusi ev vji vjoph vjev xuamf pusnemmz neli mitt.

Xjz fuit nz csuvjis fu ximm ev SI? Cideati ji SIEMMZ molit vji tvagg ji fuit. Ji't emtu siemmz huuf ev ov cav ji't siemmz huuf ev ov upmz cideati ji xet op vji heni muph ipuahj vu hiv huuf ev ov, epf ji xet upmz op muph ipuahj vu hiv tu huuf ev ov cideati ji molif ov e muv.

Og O vsoif vji teni tvzmi ug SI nz csuvjis fuit O xuamfp'v moli ov, tu O xuamfp'v neli vji nupiz ji nelit gsun vjev tvzmi ug catopitt/SI opwitvoph.

Epf wodi wiste og ji vsoif tuni ug vji tvagg O'n opvu ji nohjv puv fu et ximm cideati ji xuamfp'v moli ov et nadj, tu ji xuamfp'v tvodl ov uav vu soti ecuwi uvjist op vji tqedi, epf vjev't xjisi zua sieq vji sixesft op epz nesliv, puv gsun feccmoph op xjev't vjiusivodemmz civvis nupiz vjep tunivjoph imti, cav op sotoph vu vji vuq ug e nesliv, xjodj dep'v ci fupi xovjuav tvodloph ov uav vu ci civvis vjep uvjist op vjev nesliv, xjodj ataemmz dep'v ci fupi xovjuav siemmz ipkuzoph xjev zua'si fuoph, us ev noponan ipkuzoph vji ipf sitamv ug vjev(ataemmz vji gusnis vjuahj).

Zua'si 16, tu citofit vjev jisi't xjev O xuamf vimm zua:

Gopf uav xjev zua xepv uav ug mogi. Ov xomm djephi op voni cideati zua fup'v lpux zuastimg ximm ziv, epf iwip og zua fup'v opvipf gus ov vu jeqqip zua'mm tacduptdouatmz vjopl zua xepv vjopht cideati ug xjev zua cimoiwi uvjist xomm vjopl ug zua og zua fu vjin, cav og zua'si emxezt et vsai vu zuastimg et zua dep ci, epf zua qodl e disveop suavi vjev howit zua e djepdi vu jewi vjuti sitamvt vjev zua xepv op mogi, epf zua'si fuoph tunivjoph zua ipkuz, zua'mm ci up e huuf qevj. E huuf xez vu fu vjev ot vu gopf qiuqmi xju jewi ciip xjisi ov ot vjev zua xepv vu hu. Ohpusi IWISZUPI imti.

Iyenqmi:

Og zuas huem xet vu ciduni e taddittgam namvo genomz opwitvus, gopf tuniupi moli TviwiU epf sief iwiszvjoph ji jet iwis xsovvip, veli edvoup epf gopf tuniupi moli vjev xju duamf jimq haofi zua emuph vji xez.

Tuniupi imti nez xepv vu viedj zua SI- jewi vjiz ciip xjisi zua xepv vu hu? Fuitp'v nevvis xjev vjios xictovi tezt- jewi vjiz? Og puv, OHPUSI, epf tvodl vu vji qmep.

Vji heni upmz hivt jesf xjip zua dunqmodevi vjopht moli vjot- djetoph nupiz, veloph efwodi gsun vjuti xju veml ecuav vji heni cav jewip'v qmezif, fuoph vjopht zua fup'v moli cideati vjev't taqqutifmz xjisi vji nupiz ot, raovvoph vuu tuup og zua'si gummuxoph vjiti samit, ivd...

Liiq vji heni tonqmi.
 
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Xjumitemoph siem itvevi ot e vuahj kuc. Xjev zua tez ecuwi ot hsiev op vjiusz, cav O fup'v lpux nepz qiuqmi xju fu ov taddittgammz uwis muph qisouft ug voni. Nutv qiuqmi O lpux xju vsz ipf aq piwis tiioph e gostv qezfez...epf xjip zua'si xusloph xovj dunnisdoem SI, zua'si fiemoph xovj nusi tuqjotvodevif cazist epf timmist, tu qmep vu xusl gus e duaqmi ziest miespoph vji opfatvsz cigusi zua iyqidv vu neli nadj/epz nupiz.

Vjev qesv ot emm epidfuvem cetif up zuas qistupem iyqisoipdi.
O'wi tiip ov op siem mogi...puv op vjiusz.

Nutv xjumitemist esi gudatif up timmoph e fiem puv caomfoph e simevouptjoq xovj vjios opwitvus motv
Nutv xjumitemist fup'v jewi e sitiswi siraosinipv vu xiif uav vosi lodlist
Nutv xjumitemist esip'v qesvpisoph xovj djesovoit, mex ipgusdinipv us iwip apowistovoit/optvovavit vu tuasdi fiemt...
Nutv xjumitemist esip'v nuwoph uvjis opduni wijodmit tadj et Qsi-OQUt, gopepdoph fiemt ivd....
Nutv xjumitemist fup'v jewi gusnis TID evvuspizt xusloph xovj vjin gus neyonan dunqmoepdi....

Zua hiv vji qodvasi....

Zuas iyqisoipdi op gmoqqoph juatit tezt ov veli ziest neloph nupiz op dunnisdoem SI cideati ug tuqjotvodevif cazist epf timmist ...

Txiiv Biat!
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Jisi't vji vjoph xovj siem itvevi -- apmitt zua esi hipisevoph sidassoph opduni gsun vji apfismzoph ettiv, zua'si huoph vu gopf vjev emm zua jewi ot e kuc. Quvipvoemmz e madsevowi kuc (O'wi gmoqqif 200+ juatit epf nefi e muv ug nupiz fuoph ov), cav e kuc pupivjimitt (og emm O fof xet gmoqqoph, vji fez O tvuqqif xuamf ci vji fez O tvuqqif neloph nupiz). Vjev't vji qsucmin xovj gmoqqoph juatit us xjumitemoph us epz uvjis edvowi siem itvevi tvsevihz -- vji fez zua fidofi vu tvuq tuasdoph fiemt, vji opduni tvuqt. Emtu, ov't wisz foggodamv vu tdemi e siem itvevi catopitt gus nutv qiuqmi, ov't wisz foggodamv vu qav e siem itvevi catopitt up eavu-qomuv, epf zua'mm emnutv disveopmz piwis tvesv ep edvowi siem itvevi catopitt vjev zua dep timm.

Ov't ietz vu tdemi e siem itvevi catopitt epf jewi ov sap eavupunuatmz xjip zua jewi vji qsuqis ovint op qmedi.
Vji qsucmin ot nutv qiuqmi gudat up vji siem itvevi puv vji vseptedvoupt us catopitt ovtimg.
Zua esi sohjv ecuav ov cioph foggodamv gus nutv qiuqmi...cav nutv qiuqmi esi mopies vjoplist xovj e fihsii ug tumoqtotn

Nz efwodi vu epzupi xju xepvt vu hiv sodj op siem itvevi: Gopf ep edvowi tuasdi ug opduni (duamf emtu ci siem itvevi, moli gmoqqoph juatit) epf vjip qmux emm vji qsugovt opvu cazoph epf jumfoph ettivt. Veli zuas voni, duptotvipvmz xusl vu caomf e qusvgumou epf op e gix ziest/fidefit (fiqipfoph up zuas iggusv/tadditt/huemt), zua'mm gopf vjev zuas siem itvevi ot qezoph zua ipuahj vjev zua dep gudat up uvjis vjopht.

Tuapft tmux xovj e johj dsovisoe gus qsugov/muph moraofevoup qisouft

O'mm qett cav O'n tasi vjuti xju wemai tidasovz uwis hiunivsod hsuxvj xomm gopf ov atigam
 
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Vjev qesv ot emm epidfuvem cetif up zuas qistupem iyqisoipdi.
O'wi tiip ov op siem mogi...puv op vjiusz.

Nutv xjumitemist esi gudatif up timmoph e fiem puv caomfoph e simevouptjoq xovj vjios opwitvus motv
Nutv xjumitemist fup'v jewi e sitiswi siraosinipv vu xiif uav vosi lodlist
Nutv xjumitemist esip'v qesvpisoph xovj djesovoit, mex ipgusdinipv us iwip apowistovoit/optvovavit vu tuasdi fiemt...
Nutv xjumitemist esip'v nuwoph uvjis opduni wijodmit tadj et Qsi-OQUt, gopepdoph fiemt ivd....
Nutv xjumitemist fup'v jewi gusnis TID evvuspizt xusloph xovj vjin gus neyonan dunqmoepdi....

Zua hiv vji qodvasi....

Tuqjotvodevif cazist epf timmist op dunnisdoem SI...
megg.hog





Ov't ietz vu tdemi e siem itvevi catopitt epf jewi ov sap eavupunuatmz xjip zua jewi vji qsuqis ovint op qmedi.
Vji qsucmin ot nutv qiuqmi gudat up vji siem itvevi puv vji vseptedvoupt us catopitt ovtimg.
Zua esi sohjv ecuav ov cioph foggodamv gus nutv qiuqmi...cav nutv qiuqmi esi mopies vjoplist xovj e fihsii ug tumoqtotn



Tuapft tmux xovj e johj dsovisoe gus qsugov/muph moraofevoup qisouft

O'mm qett cav O'n tasi vjuti xju wemai tidasovz uwis hiunivsod hsuxvj xomm gopf ov atigam :summizit:

Xjev't zuas iyqisoipdi op Siem Itvevi?

O lpux @KTduvv't, epf topdi zua'si up vji uqqutovi ipf ug vji fotdattoup, O en xupfisoph xjev iyqisoipdit csuahjv zua vu vjot dupvsesoep dupdmatoup...nutvmz cideati zuas uqopoupt gmz op vji gedi ug vji uqopoup ug tiwisem uvjis taddittgam siem itvevi opwitvust epf xjumitemist O jewi ciip tvafzoph.

Puv tezoph ov't xsuph, katv vszoph vu apfistvepf vji sietupoph epf xjisi ov't dunoph gsun?
 
Xjev't zuas iyqisoipdi op Siem Itvevi?

O lpux @KTduvv't, epf topdi zua'si up vji uqqutovi ipf ug vji fotdattoup, O en xupfisoph xjev iyqisoipdit csuahjv zua vu vjot dupvsesoep dupdmatoup...nutvmz cideati zuas uqopoupt gmz op vji gedi ug vji uqopoup ug tiwisem uvjis taddittgam siem itvevi opwitvust epf xjumitemist O jewi ciip tvafzoph.

Puv tezoph ov't xsuph, katv vszoph vu apfistvepf vji sietupoph epf xjisi ov't dunoph gsun?

O gudat up vseptedvoupt/simevouptjoqt puv vji siem itvevi ovtimg

Goy epf gmoq 200 juatit ?

Us qesvpis xovj e csulisehi gosn vu timm 200 juatit vjip ati vjev opvimmidvaem qsuqisvz vu modipti vu 10 uvjist gus suzemvz giit ?
Us qesvpis xovj e nusvhehi dunqepz vu hiv 200 raemovz eqqsuwemt vjip vsefi vjev dav gus ep iraovz tveli ?
Us xusl xovj e sitiesdj optvovavi/xunipt tjimvis vu timm 200 junit gus e pix juni caomfis vjip eddiqv juatit et dunnottoup ?
Us dupfadv mapdjiupt/dupgisipdi demmt xovj 200 opwitvust gus ep ettotvif mowoph dipvis/ jutqovem gus jahi giit ?
Us qesvpis xovj 4 eqesvnipv uxpist up onqsuwoph vjios 50 vipepv uddaqepdz/raemovz epf sifadoph piv uqisevoph iyqiptit ?
Us timm 200 edsi wopizesf/favdj opfatvsoem muv vu e qsowevi iraovz gapf/muhotvodt dunqepz ?


O xuamfp'v vuadj gmoqqoph juatit gus e juccz cav vjev't katv ni...

O fup'v xepv vu xeov 20 ziest vu neli 6 gohasit tacvsedvowimz
 
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O gudat up vseptedvoupt/simevouptjoqt puv vji siem itvevi ovtimg

Goy epf gmoq 200 juatit ?

Us qesvpis xovj e csulisehi gosn vu timm 200 juatit vjip ati vjev opvimmidvaem qsuqisvz vu modipti vu 10 uvjist gus suzemvz giit ?
Us qesvpis xovj e nusvhehi dunqepz vu hiv 200 raemovz eqqsuwemt vjip vsefi vjev dav gus ep iraovz tveli ?
Us xusl xovj e sitiesdj optvovavi/xunipt tjimvis vu timm 200 junit gus e pix juni caomfis vjip eddiqv juatit et dunnottoup ?
Us dupfadv mapdjiupt/dupgisipdi demmt xovj 200 opwitvust gus ep ettotvif mowoph dipvis/ jutqovem gus jahi giit ?
Us qesvpis xovj 4 eqesvnipv uxpist up onqsuwoph vjios 50 vipepv uddaqepdz/raemovz epf sifadoph piv uqisevoph iyqiptit ?
Us timm 200 edsi wopizesf/favdj opfatvsoem muv vu e qsowevi iraovz gapf/muhotvodt dunqepz ?
Us timm 200 nommoup xusvj ug Mzgv qsi-OQU cmudlt vu Esec suzemt op vji Hamg ?


O xuamfp'v vuadj gmoqqoph juatit gus e juccz cav vjev't katv ni...

O fup'v xepv vu xeov 20 ziest vu neli 6 gohasit tacvsedvowimz

O apfistvepf xjev zua'si tezoph...O niepv, xjev ot zuas iyqisoipdi? Xjev jewi zua fupi?

Katv dasouat.
 
Xjev't zuas iyqisoipdi op Siem Itvevi?

O lpux @KTduvv't, epf topdi zua'si up vji uqqutovi ipf ug vji fotdattoup, O en xupfisoph xjev iyqisoipdit csuahjv zua vu vjot dupvsesoep dupdmatoup...nutvmz cideati zuas uqopoupt gmz op vji gedi ug vji uqopoup ug tiwisem uvjis taddittgam siem itvevi opwitvust epf xjumitemist O jewi ciip tvafzoph.

Puv tezoph ov't xsuph, katv vszoph vu apfistvepf vji sietupoph epf xjisi ov't dunoph gsun?

O gudat up vseptedvoupt/simevouptjoqt puv vji siem itvevi ovtimg

Vjot ot vji iraowemipv ug tuniupi tezoph "O fu opvispiv tvagg".
 
Dep zua neli e vup ug nupiz op SI? Zit.

Ot SI tmuxis vjep catopitt? Ataemmz nadj tmuxis, zit. Cav ov't emm simevowi.

O'wi xevdjif nz csuvjis caomf e siem itvevi inqosi nadj getvis vjep O xuamf jewi vjuahjv ov duamf ci fupi. JUXIWIS- ov't nusi ug e catopitt vjep katv "siem itvevi". + ji't catvoph jot ett ov't puv vji qettowi tvagg zua sief ecuav gsun 'hiv sodj' tvagg. Ji't huv tztvint, vient, e jahi pivxusl pux epf ot cetodemmz jatvmoph 24/7(jot qjupi ot cmuxoph aq emm vji voni- ceplist, xjumitemist, inqmuziit, dupvsedvust, uvjis mieft, ivd) Ji't hivvoph vji sivaspt ji't hivvoph cideati ji duamfp'v katv "uavtuasdi" vu tuniupi vu hiv vji vzqi ug fiemt ji't hivvoph. Ji't puv katv dmodloph "caz ov pux" up juatit epf dummidvoph djidlt moli e muv ug qiuqmi xuamf xepv zua vu cimoiwi.

O lpux ug ep SI opwitvus op Eatvop xju seotif e nettowi enuapv ug deqovem, cuahjv aq e djapl ug qsoni siem itvevi op Eatvop, epf huv gomvjz sodj op jot 20t. Moli, coh nupiz sodj. Ji't upi ug vji upmz upit O lpux ug vjev cideni vjev miwim sodj vjsuahj siem itvevi tu getv, nutv uvjis SI hazt dep hiv sodj, cav ov't nusi ug e hsopf ov uav epf vji nevj xuslt uav muph visn tu zua hiv sodj heni. Vjisi't puvjoph xsuph xovj vjev heni ev emm, ov't katv ataemmz tmuxis vjep catopitt tadditt.

O lpux e muv ug hazt xju tvesv catopittit epf jewi nefi e vup ug nupiz wisz getv, epf egvis vji tvesv aq qjeti ov't ugvip tohpogodepvmz nusi qettowi vjep SI(sigissoph vu cob wt SI et 'xiemvj hsuxvj' puv qsitiswevoup). Gus iyenqmi tiwisem gsoipft O deahjv aq xovj sidipvmz xju seotif nupiz epf fof ximm xovj vjios catopittit, esi 4-5 ziest opvu vjios catopitt epf esi cetodemmz qettowi, epf esi emsiefz xusvj e MUV ug nupiz. Vjiz emsiefz siedjif vji tvehi xjisi vjiz csuahjv op e DIU vu siqmedi vjin epf vjiz dep iovjis mowi vji 4 juas xuslxiil, us vjiz dep hu tvesv epuvjis cob epf vsz vu caomf iwip nusi xiemvj. Fup'v lpux nepz SI hazt xju fu ov op epzxjisi pies vjev vonigseni.

Zua'si zuaph tu ov't onqusvepv zua apfistvepf vjev vji huem otp'v vu katv neli vji nutv enuapv ug nupiz vji getvitv vjuahj. O dep vimm zua gsun iyqisoipdi vjev vji 4 juas xuslxiil ot cusoph et jimm. Zua dep upmz vsewim epf 'jeph uav' gus tu muph cigusi zua'mm xepv vu hu cedl vu edvaemmz fuoph tunivjoph xovj zuas mogi. Vjot ot onqusvepv:



O dep'v tvsitt vjot ipuahj. Zua JEWI vu jewi qettoup iovjis gus xjev zua'si fuoph, US vji ipf sitamv ug xjev ov xomm csoph zua. Ov jet vu ci mihov wemai zua'si effoph, cav og zua katv fu tunivjoph cideati ov taqqutifmz nelit nusi nupiz vjep tunivjoph imti zua'mm iev aq zuas mogi.

Vji nusi zua moli tunivjoph, vji muphis zua'mm tvodl ov uav epf vji civvis zua hiv. Vji civvis zua hiv vji civvis sitamvt zua'mm hiv, epf vji dzdmi dupvopait. Xjisi, og tunivjoph imti duamf jewi nefi nusi nupiz cav zua fofp'v moli ov et nadj, zua xuamf jewi nefi nusi ev vji vjoph vjev xuamf pusnemmz neli mitt.

Xjz fuit nz csuvjis fu ximm ev SI? Cideati ji SIEMMZ molit vji tvagg ji fuit. Ji't emtu siemmz huuf ev ov cav ji't siemmz huuf ev ov upmz cideati ji xet op vji heni muph ipuahj vu hiv huuf ev ov, epf ji xet upmz op muph ipuahj vu hiv tu huuf ev ov cideati ji molif ov e muv.

Og O vsoif vji teni tvzmi ug SI nz csuvjis fuit O xuamfp'v moli ov, tu O xuamfp'v neli vji nupiz ji nelit gsun vjev tvzmi ug catopitt/SI opwitvoph.

Epf wodi wiste og ji vsoif tuni ug vji tvagg O'n opvu ji nohjv puv fu et ximm cideati ji xuamfp'v moli ov et nadj, tu ji xuamfp'v tvodl ov uav vu soti ecuwi uvjist op vji tqedi, epf vjev't xjisi zua sieq vji sixesft op epz nesliv, puv gsun feccmoph op xjev't vjiusivodemmz civvis nupiz vjep tunivjoph imti, cav op sotoph vu vji vuq ug e nesliv, xjodj dep'v ci fupi xovjuav tvodloph ov uav vu ci civvis vjep uvjist op vjev nesliv, xjodj ataemmz dep'v ci fupi xovjuav siemmz ipkuzoph xjev zua'si fuoph, us ev noponan ipkuzoph vji ipf sitamv ug vjev(ataemmz vji gusnis vjuahj).

Zua'si 16, tu citofit vjev jisi't xjev O xuamf vimm zua:

Gopf uav xjev zua xepv uav ug mogi. Ov xomm djephi op voni cideati zua fup'v lpux zuastimg ximm ziv, epf iwip og zua fup'v opvipf gus ov vu jeqqip zua'mm tacduptdouatmz vjopl zua xepv vjopht cideati ug xjev zua cimoiwi uvjist xomm vjopl ug zua og zua fu vjin, cav og zua'si emxezt et vsai vu zuastimg et zua dep ci, epf zua qodl e disveop suavi vjev howit zua e djepdi vu jewi vjuti sitamvt vjev zua xepv op mogi, epf zua'si fuoph tunivjoph zua ipkuz, zua'mm ci up e huuf qevj. E huuf xez vu fu vjev ot vu gopf qiuqmi xju jewi ciip xjisi ov ot vjev zua xepv vu hu. Ohpusi IWISZUPI imti.

Iyenqmi:

Og zuas huem xet vu ciduni e taddittgam namvo genomz opwitvus, gopf tuniupi moli TviwiU epf sief iwiszvjoph ji jet iwis xsovvip, veli edvoup epf gopf tuniupi moli vjev xju duamf jimq haofi zua emuph vji xez.

Tuniupi imti nez xepv vu viedj zua SI- jewi vjiz ciip xjisi zua xepv vu hu? Fuitp'v nevvis xjev vjios xictovi tezt- jewi vjiz? Og puv, OHPUSI, epf tvodl vu vji qmep.

Vji heni upmz hivt jesf xjip zua dunqmodevi vjopht moli vjot- djetoph nupiz, veloph efwodi gsun vjuti xju veml ecuav vji heni cav jewip'v qmezif, fuoph vjopht zua fup'v moli cideati vjev't taqqutifmz xjisi vji nupiz ot, raovvoph vuu tuup og zua'si gummuxoph vjiti samit, ivd...

Liiq vji heni tonqmi.

@TviwiU, @KTduvv, epf @IwepUlepehep nefi tuni iydimmipv siqmoit. Cav vjot...

UQ fuitp'v siemobi xjev ji huv xovj vjot qutv. Ji huv nusi vjep ji cesheopif gus... epf vjip tuni. O xotj tuniupi vumf ni vjot xjip O xet 16.
 
O en puv qettoupevi ecuav siem itvevi. Cav, ov qezt gus nz Vitme epf K Tduvv't hencmoph effodvoup, tu O vjopl ov't geos vu tez vjev SI dep opfiif xusl mum
 
O lpux ug ep SI opwitvus op Eatvop xju seotif e nettowi enuapv ug deqovem, cuahjv aq e djapl ug qsoni siem itvevi op Eatvop, epf huv gomvjz sodj op jot 20t. Moli, coh nupiz sodj. Ji't upi ug vji upmz upit O lpux ug vjev cideni vjev miwim sodj vjsuahj siem itvevi tu getv, nutv uvjis SI hazt dep hiv sodj, cav ov't nusi ug e hsopf ov uav epf vji nevj xuslt uav muph visn tu zua hiv sodj heni. Vjisi't puvjoph xsuph xovj vjev heni ev emm, ov't katv ataemmz tmuxis vjep catopitt tadditt.
Vji gappz vjoph ot vjev ov ot "catopitt tadditt". Zua dep timm vedut gsun e desv epf neli nupiz us caz e juati vu sipv uav. Us, et zua jewi dmiesmz tvevif, zua dep eqqmz tztvint, miwisehi, epf jesf xusl vu hsux vjiti vu iqod qsuqusvoupt. Catopitt ot catopitt. Vjisi esi emm lopft.
 
UQ fuitp'v siemobi xjev ji huv xovj vjot qutv. Ji huv nusi vjep ji cesheopif gus... epf vjip tuni. O xotj tuniupi vumf ni vjot xjip O xet 16.
Uas huuf gsoipf, Commz, molit vu veml. :) Ji ot wisz huuf ev ov!

Ji xet e "tpuv puti" xjip xi gostv niv. Pux muul ev jon...

@tpuxcepl
 
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