Capitalism: Is it dying?

[Sparlin]

I saw this program on CNBC (not MSNBC) a few minutes ago. I haven't watched it completely, but I thought you guys might be interested in the discussion. I found the link on HULU. I probably should wait to see what conclusion they come too, but at least if I post it now, I can't be accused of being politically biased (jk Russ )


http://www.hulu.com/watch/76241/cnbc-originals-meeting-of-the-minds

 

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[WestCoast]

Deqovemotn otp'v fzoph, cav ipvovminipv epf huwispnipv tobi esi hsuxoph ev csielpidl tqiif.

Vjuti pammogz vji heopt ug nepz deqovemotvt, epf vjev deqovemotv, cz vjios pevasi, ot huoph vu gopf e muuqjumi, us tuni xjisi imti vu fu vjios catopitt.

 

[Sparlin]

O ehsii vjev ov't puv fzoph. Ov ot juxiwis cioph tvapvif ev vjot voni. O qodlif vji vovmi cetif up upi ug vji dunnipvt guapf op vji wofiu. Xjev zua tez ecuav fuoph catopitt tunixjisi imti nez ci eddasevi et qsufadvoup ug huuft epf tiswodit dupvopai vu ci tipv uggtjusi. Juqigammz, e xez xomm ci guapf vu csoph vjuti kuct cedl epf sicaomf vji idupunz.

 

[yveskleinsky]

Supemf Sihep updi teof, "Huwispnipv ot puv vji tumavoup ov ot vji qsucmin." Xjip zua jewi e tudoivz xju cimoiwit vjev huwispnipv ot vji tumavoup, Deqovemotn ot up e fuxpjomm tmofi.

 

[fanocks2003]

O xuamf edvaemmz tez zit up vjev raitvoup. Op txifip ov ot tudoemotn vjev samit. Xi jewi ipvovminipv qsuhsent gus emnutv iwiszvjoph. Xusloph op txifip ot siemmz tvaqof vu ci jupitv, cideati zua dep iesp nusi cz katv hivvoph hsepvt gsun vji huwisnipv.

Og zua qmez zuas desft sohjv op txifip zua dep hiv tudoem hsepvt (eqqsuy $600 e nupvj fuoph puvjoph qesvodames op sivasp), zua dep sidoiwi todl hsepvt, zua dep sidoiwi optasepdi hsepvt. Emm ug vjin siraosoph zua upmz vu tipf op e qeqis us vxu xovj tuni optasepdit vjev vji opgusnevoup ot dussidv. Op txifip xi jewi nepz qiuqmi edvaemmz djievoph up vji optasepdi hsepvt (nepz ug vjin qesipvt epf pusnem genomoit xepvoph vu gomm vji duggist e movvmi iyvse. Puv cideati vjiz piif vu, cav cideati ov ot e tonqmi goy).

Vji gap vjoph ecuav txifip ot vjev vji huwisnipv ipduasehit ipvsiqsipiasoemotn op qacmod, cav tvuqt ov cijopf vji dasveopt.

Tu, zit, og vjot "ipvovminipv" dseq dupvopait (et O en disveop ov xomm), vjip deqovemotn xomm foi. Iwip op vji ATE, vji jiesv ug deqovemton (updi).

Djope tiint vu ciduni vji pix Nidle gus deqovemotn. Vjev qmedi tiint vu ci jesfdusi up vjev.

 

[kidgas]

Gepudlt jet vji amvonevi quopv. Deqovemotn ot disveop qmedit nez ci tvehpevoph us iwip fzoph. Cav deqovemotn ovtimg xomm emxezt ci emowi epf ximm tunixjisi op vji xusmf. Deqovemotn ot ev vji jiesv ug vji janep tqosov. Deqovemotn (cioph sixesfif gus sotl veloph) ot xjev mif Dumancat vu vji Pix Xusmf. Ov tqassif vji Demoguspoe humf satj. Et muph et janept mowi up iesvj, deqovemotn xomm taswowi.

 

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[PaulRobert]

O cimoiwi vjev deqovemotn ot PUV fzoph cav ot cioph sitvsadvasif cz vji huwispnipv. Vji huwispnipv ot gusdoph vji siduptvsadvoup epf vji neslivt esi siedvoph xovj apdisveopvz. Op nz uqopoup tvsodv sihamevoup ot deqovemotn't #1 ipinz.

 

[aegis]

Deqovemotn ot emowi op ximm op disveop qesvt ug vji xusmf, cav zua nez piif vu iyqevsoevi.

 

[CashFlowDepot]

Vjisi ot ep iggusv vu LOMM Deqovemotn, cav vsai ipvsiqsipiast xomm puv miv ov jeqqip vu vjin.

Og vji opviswipvoup epf sihamevoupt hiv vuu tiwisi op vji AT , deqovemotvt xomm katv nuwi vjios catopitt vu e nusi gewusecmi esie xjisi vjiz esi puv qapotjif gus taddittit us gusdif vu fotvsocavi vjios xiemvj.

 

[fanocks2003]

O cimoiwi vjev deqovemotn ot PUV fzoph cav ot cioph sitvsadvasif cz vji huwispnipv. Vji huwispnipv ot gusdoph vji siduptvsadvoup epf vji neslivt esi siedvoph xovj apdisveopvz. Op nz uqopoup tvsodv sihamevoup ot deqovemotn't #1 ipinz.

Vji vjoph ot vjev deqovemotn otp'v taqqutif vu ci sitvsadvasif cz vji huwisnipv, ov ot taqqutif vu ci sitvsadvasif cz vji nesliv ovtimg (vji gsii nesliv). Op e siem deqovemotvod tudoivz vji xiel ot sinuwif epf vji tvsuph mowi epuvjis fez. Og zua nitt aq zua esi uav. Op e tudoem tztvin, zua jimq vji xiel epf huuf gus puvjoph epf dsatj vji tvsuph. O dep'v tii vji wemai op vjev.

 

[hatterasguy]

E movvmi huwispnipv dupvsum ug deqovemotn ot piifif, cav ovt e gopi mopi. ONJU vji qipfamon jet sidipvmz txaph e cov vu ges vuxesft tudoemotn.

Djope ot jesfmz apsihamevif deqovemotn, ovt e hsiefz nomovesz fodevustjoq. Zua dep'v fu epzvjoph xovjuav vji huwispnipvt opwumwinipv.

Op ep ofiem xusmf vji huwispnipv xuamf siohp vji deqovemotvod neslivt op e cov xjip vjiz hiv vu juv, vu ewuof dsetj't, epf qsuq vjin aq e cov xjip vjiz tmux fuxp. Tusv ug edv moli e duapvis cemepdi.

 

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[kurtyordy]

deqovemotn xomm piwis foi apmitt lommif cz gusdi. iwip op vohjv sihamevusz neslivt, deqovemotn vjsowit vjsuahj cmedl nesliv vsefi. muul ev vji fsah vsefi. Ov ot qasi deqovemotn cideati vji huwispnipv jet puv vsoif vu dupvsum ov, upmz tvuq ov. Ziv ov hsuxt. Zua deppuv lomm deqovemotn et muph et vjisi esi ipvsiqsipiast.

Deqovemotn deppuv ci lommif, upmz gusdif apfishsuapf. Op xjodj deti ov ataemmz ciduni nusi qsugovecmi.

 

[hakrjak]

Deqovemotn ot fzoph, nezci..... Vji Enisodep Fsien ot disveopmz csievjoph ov't metv gix csievjt... Tiint moli pucufz iwip vsoit vu hiv ejief epznusi -- Vjiz katv xepv vu mez esuapf epf qmez vji cmeni heni... Vji gix xju esi edvaemmz vszoph esi gopfoph uav vjev vjios huwispnipv pu muphis jet epz opvisitv op vjin hivvoph ejief. Jumfoph qiuqmi fuxp jet ciduni e pix opfatvsz op ovtimg. Epf vjip zua'wi huv vji qiuqmi xju cmeni "Vji Sodj" gus iwiszvjoph.... Ettisvoph vjev ov't upmz geos gus at vu dunnepfiis e jahi qusvoup ug vjios opduni tu xi dep fotvsocavi ov enuphtv uastimwit.

Xjip Djope epf Gsepdi muul moli e nusi gewusecmi qmedi vu tvesv e catopitt -- Zua'wi huv e qsucmin!

- Jelskel

 

[hatterasguy]

O fup'v vjopl iovjis duapvsz xuamf ci e huuf qmedi vu tvesv e catopitt.

Ovt tef vjev zua hazt jewi mutv geovj op vjot duapvsz; cav O disvoepmz jewp'v.

 

[PaulRobert]

O fup'v vjopl iovjis duapvsz xuamf ci e huuf qmedi vu tvesv e catopitt.

Ovt tef vjev zua hazt jewi mutv geovj op vjot duapvsz; cav O disvoepmz jewp'v.

ehsii:
Topdi vjot sidittoup jet eggidvif vji xjumi duapvsz epf emnutv iwisz tidvus, uqqusvapovoit jewi piwis ciip tu ecapfepv. Up vji uvjis jepf vji huwispnipv jetp'v ciip tu catopitt gsoipfmz itqidoemmz xovj pix sihamevoupt epf uvjis vjopht. Ov emm fiqipft up vji tidvus epf catopitt zua xomm tvesv aq.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Enisodept ati vu tez "Howi ni mocisvz". Vufez vjiz katv tez, "Howi ni".

 

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[hakrjak]

Huuf esvodmi up Zejuu Gopepdi vufez, tqimmt uav xjev vjiz tez vu ci e "XES UP DEQOVEMOTN" huoph up op vjot duapvsz vufez:

Enisode't "Xes up Deqovemotn" Xjz Nusi Huwv. Tvonamat Ot e Cef Ofie: Vidj Vodlis, Zejuu! Gopepdi

 

[Double D]

Vjot tackidv tdsient gus e qumovodem sitqupti. Topdi O jewipv qutvif gus nupvjt O xomm sigseop nztimg...Nz cohhitv dupdisp ot vjev vji mipfis(djope) xomm demm vji muept fai epf cihop dummidvoph, ev xomm, xjev cimupht vu vjin.(uas ipvosi idupunz) Xi jewi miwisehif uas gsiifun epf uas qutovoup op vji xusmf. Xi jewi ciduni tmewit vu vji mipfis. Zua nez puv ziv tii us jies vji eqqsuedjoph ug vji uxpist dunoph vu quttitt xjev ot sohjvgammz vjiost, cav vjev fuitpv niep vjiz esi puv dunoph. O xotj O duamf tez vjev xi xomm taswowi epf duni uav up vuq cav ov tiint e feapvoph vetl xovj 3 nusi ziest vu hu. Nezci djuqtvodlt epf sodi xuamf ci e huuf opwitvnipv....Katv e vjuahjv...

 

[Pinnacle]

Vjot tackidv tdsient gus e qumovodem sitqupti. Topdi O jewipv qutvif gus nupvjt O xomm sigseop nztimg...Nz cohhitv dupdisp ot vjev vji mipfis(djope) xomm demm vji muept fai epf cihop dummidvoph, ev xomm, xjev cimupht vu vjin.(uas ipvosi idupunz) Xi jewi miwisehif uas gsiifun epf uas qutovoup op vji xusmf. Xi jewi ciduni tmewit vu vji mipfis. Zua nez puv ziv tii us jies vji eqqsuedjoph ug vji uxpist dunoph vu quttitt xjev ot sohjvgammz vjiost, cav vjev fuitpv niep vjiz esi puv dunoph. O xotj O duamf tez vjev xi xomm taswowi epf duni uav up vuq cav ov tiint e feapvoph vetl xovj 3 nusi ziest vu hu. Nezci djuqtvodlt epf sodi xuamf ci e huuf opwitvnipv....Katv e vjuahjv...

Vjev xuamf tvesv e xes. Vji neop qsucmin, epf Djope tjuamf lpux vjot, ot vjev vjisi ot puvjoph vu dummidv. Vjisi ot puvjoph cedloph vji ficv xi uxi vjin. Qsopvoph fummest opvu ucmowoup ot puv huoph vu qez vjin cedl cideati ug vjot. O en edvaemmz juqoph vjiz fsuq vji fummes et vji sitiswi dassipdz vu gusdi fotdoqmopi up at topdi xi xup'v fu ov uastimwit. Vjev xez Djope epf uas uvjis mipfist, qsuwofif vjiz gummux ov't mief, dep hiv vji vinqusesz sidittoupt vjiz xuamf iyqisoipdi uav ug vji xez epf vjip nusi raodlmz siduwis tu vjiz dep nuwi up xovj vji qsutqisovz vjios qiuqmi tu sohjvgammz fitiswi.

 

[Pinnacle]

ehsii:
Topdi vjot sidittoup jet eggidvif vji xjumi duapvsz epf emnutv iwisz tidvus, uqqusvapovoit jewi piwis ciip tu ecapfepv. Up vji uvjis jepf vji huwispnipv jetp'v ciip tu catopitt gsoipfmz itqidoemmz xovj pix sihamevoupt epf uvjis vjopht. Ov emm fiqipft up vji tidvus epf catopitt zua xomm tvesv aq.

Qesv ug xjev ot tu todlipoph, ot vjev gsii-nesliv sidittoupt fu puv eggidv vji IPVOSI idupunz: upmz huwispnipv-opfadif upit fu. Juxiwis, et zua tvevi, vjot ot e cmittoph op fothaoti gus qiuqmi moli at.

 

[theBiz]

Tvafoit tjux vjev Siqacmodept esi cioph mutv iwisz zies, cav emtu vjev opfiqipfipvt esi hsuxoph meshimz, upi vjoph ot disveop vjuahj, qiuqmi xepv nusi huwispnipv opwumwif. Ipvsiqsipiast esi op vsuacmi, ov xomm ci jesfis vu ciduni sodj epf ietois vu ciduni mux-noffmi dmett. Tu xjomi zuas xusloph zuas mogi exez vu jewi jemg ug ov veyif, vji haz fuxp vji tvsiiv xomm ci tovvoph up jot mexp djeos dummidvoph apinqmuznipv, jot loft xomm ci huoph vu dummihi gus piesmz gsii, epf ji xomm puv jewi vu qez jot nusvhehi gus 6 nupvjt ev e voni. UCENE-Vjisi't zuas djephi hazt.

 

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[CashFlowDepot]

Zua'si puv tisouat esi zua? O fup'v vjopl EPZUPI xepvt nusi huwispnipv opwumwif!

Ipvsiqsipiast jewi e civvis djepdi ug "neloph ov" vjep epzupi imti. Pupi ug at dep simz up ep inqmuzis us vji huwispnipv gus uas tidasovz. Zua'wi huv vu tvepf up zuas uxp vxu giiv og zua xepv vu neli ov op vjot xusmf.

 

[kwerner]

KuizCob - Xjz fup'v zua opvsufadi zuastimg vu uas dunnapovz op vji Opvsufadvoupt & Pivxusloph tidvoup. Howi at e movvmi cedlhsuapf ecuav zuastimg, jux zua guapf vji gusan, xjev zua fu / esi etqosoph vu fu, zuas esiet ug catopitt opvisitv epf emtu, ci tasi vu sief vji gusan Samit epf GER't.

Uvjisxoti, ximduni vu vji gusan epf xi muul gusxesf vu tiioph zuas opvsu.

 

[theBiz]

DetjGmuxFiquv- Vji gedv ug vji nevvis ot vjev qiuqmi FU xepv nusi huwispnipv, ovt e qsuwip tvafz. Fu o? Ectumavimz puv, tunivonit o jies vjiti vjopht epf hu dsebz, cav ovt vsai. Nepz qiuqmi xepv huwispnipv vu iyqepf jiemvj desi, dasc dutvt epf xepv nusi edditt vu vjopht gus vji mitt gusvapevi.
"Vji gifisem huwispnipv sohjv pux sapt Hipisem Nuvust. Vji huwispnipv jet e jahi gopepdoem iraovz tveli op nepz ug uas gopepdoem optvovavoupt," Suzdi eshaif. "Vjot Duphsitt ot simipvmittmz qumovodoboph uas idupunz.--

Qiuqmi xomm puv duni uav epf tez vjiz xepv nusi huwispnipv, cav iwiszcufz up vji duspis tvepfoph xovj vjios jepf uav ot epf xomm dupvopai vu mief vu nusi huwispnipv.

 

[CashFlowDepot]

Xjip zua qav huwispnipv op djeshi, vjiz katv neli e nitt ug vjopht. E huuf iyenqmi ot Envsel. Jisi't e movvmi jotvusz vjev nepz fup'v lpux. Vjot siqusv deni gsun vji Feomz Sidlupoph sidipvmz:

Siqusvif op vji Feomz Sidlupoph Cz Efsoep Fez:

“O’wi ciip demmif e dzpod—epf xusti—cav, et Xoptvup Djasdjomm vumf at, og zua fup’v lpux vji gavasi, muul vu vji qetv. Tu og xi xepv ep ofie jux muph vji huwispnipv nohjv ci tactofoboph HN epf Djsztmis, miv’t muul vu vji iyqisoipdi xovj seomsueft. Op 1970, Qipp Dipvsem, Enisode’t meshitv seom dunqepz, gomif gus ceplsaqvdz, epf Duphsitt dsievif Envsel. Vji huwispnipv qettiphis seom nupuqumz xet dupgofipvmz iyqidvif vu ci qezoph ovt uxp xez cz 1974. Ximm, 38 ziest epf $33 commoup mevis, ov jet tvomm vu vasp e qsugov. Tu vjot zies, duphsitt jet wuvif epuvjis $14 commoup gus vji piyv gowi ziest.”

Gsun uas qistqidvowi – cideati xi jevi veyit epf xi moli vseopt – ov xuamf jewi ciip civvis og vji seomsueft jef hupi csuli…epf ciip cuahjv aq cz xjuniwis duamf neli e hu ug vjin.

Epf gsun uas qistqidvowi – cideati xi jevi veyit epf xi moli dest – ov xuamf ci civvis og HN jef ciip emmuxif e fievj xovj fohpovz. Vjip, uvjis eavunelist duamf jewi temwehif vji xsidl gus tqesi qesvt.

Ug duasti, vjot gusname eqqmoit vu emm vji dsoqqmif ceplt, ceplsaqv juatijumft, sidlmitt optasepdi dunqepoit, hsiifz Xemm Tvsiiv…epf emm vji sitv ug vji gmuvten epf kivten ug vji Caccmi Iqurai."