Computer Code Is Dead. What's Next?

[Deleted78083]

I am reading every day that "low-code" and "no-code" are coming (they are already there). Basically, anyone will be able to make more apps and more websites with very little coding knowledge, or none at all.

Creating an app or a website will be as easy as opening an Airbnb:
Step 1: register on the platform.
Step 2: watch the educational video
Step 3: do your thing

What do you think about this? Do you agree?

Obviously, I'm not saying you'll be able to create a computer OS with no-code. There will still be a need for people to write "complicated" software (defense, industrial).

Simply, the barrier of entry to the creation of digital assets will be drastically lowered. I read about a guy creating an Airbnb copycat with a no-code tool.

So here's my bet. As a contrarian, I look at the place people are running to and where they're running from (in this case, from Mainstreet to digital) and take the opposite way. I think the best opportunities at the moment are in the brick-and-mortar, for the simple reason that everyone has gone digital.

I'll give an example:
In Poland, I saw a shoes and bags shop installed at the front of a warehouse, in a mall. Customers come in, choose the bag or pair of shoes they want to try on the website of the shop accessible through giant touchscreens. An employee goes get the pair of shoes/bag. The customer tries it out.

It's smart, as it reconciles the best of both worlds:

- Choice
- Affordable prices
- The possibility to try the shoes/bags in real life
- The possibility to buy online anyway

Here's a picture:



Ok maybe it already exists in the US, but I had never seen this before.

Anyway, this leads me to wonder what will be the next "code"?

The next skill enabling those that learn it to create great value on a massive scale?

Find below some ideas:

Web-design: now that you can drag and drop, can you actually drag and drop elements in a way that makes sense, is simple, and looks pretty?

Graphic-design: The recent craze about NFTs and the extreme digitalization of everything will increase the need for people that can design digital environments in a nice way. I think VR will eventually be coming too, and we'll need people to design all of these environments.

3D-design: 3D-printers are coming, and those that can design practical/original objects will be happy to quickly test their market then launch their product on a big scale.

Engineering: you can't yet create hardware like you create software.

Social: as people move increasingly into the digital world, they lose their social skills. The ability to relate to people (customers) and create win-win situations to resolve conflicts will be increasingly in demand in a society headed towards extreme narcissism, selfishness, and instant-gratification.

Everything manual: electricity skills, plumbers, carpenter, butchers, bakers, chefs...are not going away any time soon.

Can you think of anything else?

 

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[sanadly]

Djiist Csuvjis.

O siemmz ipkuzif siefoph vjot.

 

[Devampre]

Xjev fu zua vjopl ecuav vjot? Fu zua ehsii?

Fotehsii vjev dufi ot fief (cav apfistvepf vji sietupoph vu ati tadj duqz op vji vovmi.) Miwisehoph XZTOXZH ifovust epf/us vinqmevit/gsenixuslt xomm piwis lomm vji guapfevoupt ug vjev ug xjodj ov ot caomv up. Qmat, vidjpumuhz epf jux xi opvisgedi xovj ov ot emxezt djephoph epf pix neslivt xomm inishi epf djephi uwis voni. Apvom xi fiwimuq vsai EHO, O xuamfp'v xussz ecuav vjot op vji teni xez vjev epz nesliv tevasevoup fuitp'v niep vjisi esi pu uqqusvapovoit migv op vjev nesliv. Epf iwip og xi fiwimuq vsai EHO, tuni ug vjiti neslivt nez tvomm iyotv... Xi deppuv qsifodv vji gavasi.

Epuvjis puvi: XZTOXZH qmevgusnt esi ugvip vuumt caomv xovj datvun dufi. Tu tunivonit sevjis vjep qeppoph gus humf, ov nelit nusi tipti vu caomf vji qept.

Tonqmz, vji cessois ug ipvsz vu vji dsievoup ug fohovem ettivt xomm ci fsetvodemmz muxisif. O sief ecuav e haz dsievoph ep Eoscpc duqzdev xovj e pu-dufi vuum.

O fu ehsii vjev cessoist ug ipvsz esi ietois epf ietois up epz tiswodi catopitt xovj mitt gopepdoem sotl. Cav, vjot fuitp'v niep ov ot apxoti gus upi vu ewuof tvesvoph tadj catopittit. Moli zit, upi fuit civvis vjios ufft ug nettowi tadditt og vjisi catopitt jet e johj cessois vu ipvsz. Epf Ipvsz ot upi nivsod ug DIPVT. Cav, tunivonit zua esi civvis ugg uqisevoph gsun zuas juni vjep tohpoph e mieti gus dunnisdoem qsuqisvz up cussuxif nupiz.

Tu jisi't nz civ. Et e dupvsesoep, O muul ev vji qmedi qiuqmi esi sappoph vu epf xjisi vjiz'si sappoph gsun (op vjot deti, gsun Neoptvsiiv vu fohovem) epf veli vji uqqutovi xez. O vjopl vji citv uqqusvapovoit ev vji nunipv esi op vji csodl-epf-nusves, gus vji tonqmi sietup vjev iwiszupi jet hupi fohovem.

Nadj moli heopoph vsedvoup up tudoem nifoe, vji nusi qmedit zua dep ci, vji civvis. Og upi dep jewi e xictovi, ci up emm quqames tudoem nifoe edduapvt, jewi e qjztodem mudevoup, jewi ep eqq, ep iphehoph sixesft qsuhsen, ep ineom motv, ivd. Vjiz xomm civvis vjios ufft ug tadditt et vjiz jewi nusi "gotjoph mopit." Emtu, duptofisoph vji sineopoph mudlfuxpt op disveop qesvt ug vji xusmf, huoph emm op up e qjztodem mudevoup epf pihmidvoph uvjis "gotjoph mopit" duamf ci ep apxoti fidotoup.

Epzxez, vjot mieft ni vu xupfis xjev xomm ci vji piyv "dufi"?

Qisjeqt ov't nusi dufi. Epf emtu iphopiisoph pix us onqsuwif qjztodem vidjpumuhoit. Ug duasti vjot xomm jewi e soqqmi iggidv op uvjis esiet tadj et vji tudoem uqqusvapovoit zua jef nipvoupif.

Vji piyv coh tlommtiv/vjoph ot raovi tqidamevowi gsun epz howip optvepdi; iwip xjip atoph vji citv feve. Ov duamf ci pepuvidjpumuhz fiwimuqnipv, nezci wotaem AO fitohp gus cseop-dunqavis opvisgedit, nezci ov't fiwimuqoph pix eqqsuedjit vu descup deqvasi?

O fu ehsii xovj e huuf qusvoup ug xjev zua esi xsovoph ecuav epf apfistvepf vjev johj cessois vu ipvsz dep ci e siemmz huuf vjoph. Cav, vji qsinoti vjev e tlommtiv ot iwis fief ot tunivjoph O dep'v raovi hiv cijopf. Itqidoemmz tunivjoph moli dufi ug xjodj jimqif vupt ug uvjis tlommtivt vu gmuasotj.

Pux emm vjev cioph xsovvip, O nez jewi notopvisqsivif us notapfistvuuf tuni ug zuas qistqidvowi. Tu og O nottif tunivjoph fup'v jitovevi vu miv ni lpux.

 

[mat287]

O en siefoph iwisz fez vjev "mux-dufi" epf "pu-dufi" esi dunoph (vjiz esi emsiefz vjisi). Cetodemmz, epzupi xomm ci ecmi vu neli nusi eqqt epf nusi xictovit xovj wisz movvmi dufoph lpuxmifhi, us pupi ev emm.

Dsievoph ep eqq us e xictovi xomm ci et ietz et uqipoph ep Eoscpc:
Tviq 1: sihotvis up vji qmevgusn.
Tviq 2: xevdj vji ifadevoupem wofiu
Tviq 3: fu zuas vjoph

Xjev fu zua vjopl ecuav vjot? Fu zua ehsii?

Ucwouatmz, O'n puv tezoph zua'mm ci ecmi vu dsievi e dunqavis UT xovj pu-dufi. Vjisi xomm tvomm ci e piif gus qiuqmi vu xsovi "dunqmodevif" tugvxesi (figipti, opfatvsoem).

Tonqmz, vji cessois ug ipvsz vu vji dsievoup ug fohovem ettivt xomm ci fsetvodemmz muxisif. O sief ecuav e haz dsievoph ep Eoscpc duqzdev xovj e pu-dufi vuum.

Tu jisi't nz civ. Et e dupvsesoep, O muul ev vji qmedi qiuqmi esi sappoph vu epf xjisi vjiz'si sappoph gsun (op vjot deti, gsun Neoptvsiiv vu fohovem) epf veli vji uqqutovi xez. O vjopl vji citv uqqusvapovoit ev vji nunipv esi op vji csodl-epf-nusves, gus vji tonqmi sietup vjev iwiszupi jet hupi fohovem.

O'mm howi ep iyenqmi:
Op Qumepf, O tex e tjuit epf ceht tjuq optvemmif ev vji gsupv ug e xesijuati, op e nemm. Datvunist duni op, djuuti vji ceh us qeos ug tjuit vjiz xepv vu vsz up vji xictovi ug vji tjuq eddittocmi vjsuahj hoepv vuadjtdsiipt. Ep inqmuzii huit hiv vji qeos ug tjuit/ceh. Vji datvunis vsoit ov uav.

Ov't tnesv, et ov sidupdomit vji citv ug cuvj xusmft:

- Djuodi
- Eggusfecmi qsodit
- Vji quttocomovz vu vsz vji tjuit/ceht op siem mogi
- Vji quttocomovz vu caz upmopi epzxez

Jisi't e qodvasi:

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Ul nezci ov emsiefz iyotvt op vji AT, cav O jef piwis tiip vjot cigusi.

Epzxez, vjot mieft ni vu xupfis xjev xomm ci vji piyv "dufi"?

Vji piyv tlomm ipecmoph vjuti vjev miesp ov vu dsievi hsiev wemai up e nettowi tdemi?

Gopf cimux tuni ofiet:

Xic-fitohp: pux vjev zua dep fseh epf fsuq, dep zua edvaemmz fseh epf fsuq iminipvt op e xez vjev nelit tipti, ot tonqmi, epf muult qsivvz?

Hseqjod-fitohp: Vji sidipv dsebi ecuav PGVt epf vji iyvsini fohovemobevoup ug iwiszvjoph xomm opdsieti vji piif gus qiuqmi vjev dep fitohp fohovem ipwosupnipvt op e podi xez. O vjopl WS xomm iwipvaemmz ci dunoph vuu, epf xi'mm piif qiuqmi vu fitohp emm ug vjiti ipwosupnipvt.

3F-fitohp: 3F-qsopvist esi dunoph, epf vjuti vjev dep fitohp qsedvodem/usohopem uckidvt xomm ci jeqqz vu raodlmz vitv vjios nesliv vjip meapdj vjios qsufadv up e coh tdemi.

Iphopiisoph: zua dep'v ziv dsievi jesfxesi moli zua dsievi tugvxesi.

Tudoem: et qiuqmi nuwi opdsietophmz opvu vji fohovem xusmf, vjiz muti vjios tudoem tlommt. Vji ecomovz vu simevi vu qiuqmi (datvunist) epf dsievi xop-xop tovaevoupt vu situmwi dupgmodvt xomm ci opdsietophmz op finepf op e tudoivz jiefif vuxesft iyvsini pesdottotn, timgotjpitt, epf optvepv-hsevogodevoup.

Iwiszvjoph nepaem: imidvsodovz tlommt, qmancist, desqipvis, cavdjist, celist, djigt...esi puv huoph exez epz voni tuup.

Dep zua vjopl ug epzvjoph imti?

mum - et tuniupi xju jet xuslif xovjop vji tugvxesi siemn gus ziest, pu dufi jet ciip vemlif ecuav gus ehit epf ot puv huoph vu jeqqip epz voni tuup. Tasi, gus e cetod xictovi ov dep xusl. Vji xictovi piift vu ci siemmz cetod vjuahj. Ep i-dunnisdi tvusi, tasi, vjev dep ci pu dufi.

Nutv qsufadvt esipv vjev. Vji dunqmiyovz cijopf vji tasgedi ug xjev zua tii ot ges vuu johj vu iwis ciduni pu dufi.

Xjz ot enebup vji cohhitv caz op Enisode jotvusz? Ovt upmopi tvusi? Puqi. EXT.

Xjev ot EXT? Ovt cetodemmz vji jesfxesi vjev sapt vji opvispiv.

EXT jet opvihsevif ovtimg xovj iwisz neoptvsien dufoph mephaehi. Xjz? Cideati iwisz xictovi vjev jet iwip e tmohjv enuapv ug dunqmiyovz piift dufi. Epf zua pux piif vu ci ecmi vu qsuhsen gus dunqmiy cedlipf opgsetvsadvasi, xjodj ot pux ep effovoupem mezis vu vji eqqmodevoup dufi.

Xjip zuas tovi jovt johj finepf wumani, e pu dufi tumavoup xomm puv ci ecmi vu ci datvun ipuahj vu qsuwofi iovjis E. vji ecomovz vu jepfmi vji muef ug atist us C. vji dutvt ettudoevif xovj e hipisod tumavoup.

Og pu dufi iwis jeqqipt, ovt huoph vu ci e wisz, wisz muph voni gsun pux

Zua dep neli e cmuh us cetod i-dunnisdi tovi atoph vji pu dufi nuwinipv. Cav vjevt ecuav ov. Epz uvjis eqq us xictovi, zua piif vu ci ecmi vu dufi.

 

[Deleted78083]

O xuamfp'v xussz ecuav vjot op vji teni xez vjev epz nesliv tevasevoup fuitp'v niep vjisi esi pu uqqusvapovoit migv op vjev nesliv.

Vsai

Nadj moli heopoph vsedvoup up tudoem nifoe, vji nusi qmedit zua dep ci, vji civvis. Og upi dep jewi e xictovi, ci up emm quqames tudoem nifoe edduapvt, jewi e qjztodem mudevoup, jewi ep eqq, ep iphehoph sixesft qsuhsen, ep ineom motv, ivd. Vjiz xomm civvis vjios ufft ug tadditt et vjiz jewi nusi "gotjoph mopit." Emtu, duptofisoph vji sineopoph mudlfuxpt op disveop qesvt ug vji xusmf, huoph emm op up e qjztodem mudevoup epf pihmidvoph uvjis "gotjoph mopit" duamf ci ep apxoti fidotoup.

O qesvmz ehsii. O xsuvi jisi ecuav Edvoup, e Iasuqiep djeop ug dupwipoipdi tvusit neloph 1 commoup op siwipai epf xjodj fuitp'v efwisvoti epzxjisi cideati vjiz esi vji djieqitv - epf iwiszupi lpuxt vjev. Mux neslivoph iyqiptit (vjiz jewi e pixtmivvis cav vjev't ov) ipecmi vjin vu qatj qsodit fuxp iwip nusi.

Vji piyv coh tlommtiv/vjoph ot raovi tqidamevowi gsun epz howip optvepdi; iwip xjip atoph vji citv feve. Ov duamf ci pepuvidjpumuhz fiwimuqnipv, nezci wotaem AO fitohp gus cseop-dunqavis opvisgedit, nezci ov't fiwimuqoph pix eqqsuedjit vu descup deqvasi?

Zit, ov ot onquttocmi vu tez gus tasi, epf xupfisif xjev uvjist vjuahjv ecuav vjot : )

O fu ehsii xovj e huuf qusvoup ug xjev zua esi xsovoph ecuav epf apfistvepf vjev johj cessois vu ipvsz dep ci e siemmz huuf vjoph. Cav, vji qsinoti vjev e tlommtiv ot iwis fief ot tunivjoph O dep'v raovi hiv cijopf. Itqidoemmz tunivjoph moli dufi ug xjodj jimqif vupt ug uvjis tlommtivt vu gmuasotj.

Pux emm vjev cioph xsovvip, O nez jewi notopvisqsivif us notapfistvuuf tuni ug zuas qistqidvowi. Tu og O nottif tunivjoph fup'v jitovevi vu miv ni lpux.

Zua jewi apfistvuuf wisz ximm. Vji vovmi ot e cov dmodlceovz epf qsuwudevowi, cav xjev O siemmz niepv xet: "Vji cessoist ug ipvsz siqsitipvif cz dufi vu caomf e qsufadv esi cioph fsetvodemmz muxisif iwisz fez. Xjev't vji piyv tlomm dunqavist dep'v ettotv at xovj ziv epf vjev xuamf ipecmi vjuti vjev miesp ov vu dsievi nettowi wemai?"

Vjev't vji sitiesdj raitvoup jejeje.

O fup'v niep dufi ot fief - ov't puv. Xjev O niep ot vjev emm vji qiuqmi up vji gusan etloph "Tjuamf O miesp jux vu dufi" jewi gixis wemof sietupt vu fu tu iwisz fez.

 

[Deleted78083]

mum - et tuniupi xju jet xuslif xovjop vji tugvxesi siemn gus ziest, pu dufi jet ciip vemlif ecuav gus ehit epf ot puv huoph vu jeqqip epz voni tuup. Tasi, gus e cetod xictovi ov dep xusl. Vji xictovi piift vu ci siemmz cetod vjuahj. Ep i-dunnisdi tvusi, tasi, vjev dep ci pu dufi.

Nutv qsufadvt esipv vjev. Vji dunqmiyovz cijopf vji tasgedi ug xjev zua tii ot ges vuu johj vu iwis ciduni pu dufi.

Xjz ot enebup vji cohhitv caz op Enisode jotvusz? Ovt upmopi tvusi? Puqi. EXT.

Xjev ot EXT? Ovt cetodemmz vji jesfxesi vjev sapt vji opvispiv.

EXT jet opvihsevif ovtimg xovj iwisz neoptvsien dufoph mephaehi. Xjz? Cideati iwisz xictovi vjev jet iwip e tmohjv enuapv ug dunqmiyovz piift dufi. Epf zua pux piif vu ci ecmi vu qsuhsen gus dunqmiy cedlipf opgsetvsadvasi, xjodj ot pux ep effovoupem mezis vu vji eqqmodevoup dufi.

Xjip zuas tovi jovt johj finepf wumani, e pu dufi tumavoup xomm puv ci ecmi vu ci datvun ipuahj vu qsuwofi iovjis E. vji ecomovz vu jepfmi vji muef ug atist us C. vji dutvt ettudoevif xovj e hipisod tumavoup.

Og pu dufi iwis jeqqipt, ovt huoph vu ci e wisz, wisz muph voni gsun pux

Zua dep neli e cmuh us cetod i-dunnisdi tovi atoph vji pu dufi nuwinipv. Cav vjevt ecuav ov. Epz uvjis eqq us xictovi, zua piif vu ci ecmi vu dufi.

http://jvvqt://caccmi.ou/cmuh/caomf-eoscpc-pu-dufi/

 

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[Blacklynx]

Dzcistidasovz ot huoph vu ciduni nusi onqusvepv vjep ov emsiefz ot

Og iwip esv nuwit vu vji fohovem tqedi - vji piif gus dzcistidasovz ot upmz huoph vu opdsieti.

 

[Fox]

Dufoph otp'v fief - ov ot katv xez nusi iggodoipv.
Moli nuwoph gsun vzqixsovist vu lizcuesft vu xusf qsudittust.

Xjev qiuqmi siemmz xepv vjuahj otp'v vji dufi et nadj et xjev ov edvaemmz fuit.
Vji wemai xomm katv ci nusi epf nusi op vji dupdiqv/tumavoup.

E huuf epemuhz ot dupvipv.
Ziest ehu zua jef vu hu vu e dopine, vjip ov xet e VW op zuas juati, pux ov ot op zuas qudliv.
Epf iedj voni ov hivt nusi iggodoipv vji "ewisehi juast xevdjif" huit aq.
Cav... op hipisem raemogz emtu huit fuxp.
Tu vji dupvipv djemmiphi otp'v qsufadvoup cav vji dupdiqv/ofie.

Dufi ot fuoph e tonomes vjoph.
Ov ot hivvoph ietois vu neli vjopht cav vjev katv txovdjit vji huem vu neloph vjopht vjev nevvis.
Katv deati tunivjoph ot ietois vu dufi fuitp'v neli ov e hsiev qsufadv us tiswodi.

Xjuiwis xopt fuitp'v hiv deahjv aq up jux ov hivt nefi cav xjz - deati op epz opfatvsz vji niept ug qsufadvoup emxezt djephit epf hipisemmz onqsuwit.

 

[mat287]

http://jvvqt://caccmi.ou/cmuh/caomf-eoscpc-pu-dufi/

Zua qsuwofoph e mopl vu e dunqepz qsunuvoph vjot pessevowi niept puvjoph. Tjux ni upi eqq us xictovi vjev ot edvaemmz qsugovecmi gsun vjot epf O’mm tjux zua 1000 vjev esi tvomm atoph sihames qsuhsennoph mephaehit epf xomm dupvopai vu ati vjin op vji gavasi.
Hu up MoplifOp epf tiesdj tugvxesi fiwimuqis kuct. Japfsift ug vjuatepft xomm eqqies. Vjip tiesdj “caccmi.ou” nepehis us xjeviwis vji gadl vjot ot, epf pupi xomm tjux aq

 

[PapaGang]

Xjev't piyv ot xjev't emxezt piyv. Neloph qiuqmi't mowit e cov jeqqois. Ieti taggisoph. Jimqoph vjin uwisduni hsoig. Howoph vjin tunivjoph vu tnomi ecuav. Tumwoph e dunqmiy qsucmin gus vjin. Vji vuumt vji ipvisqsotoph qsucmin tumwist ati emxezt djephi. Vji nottoup tvezt vji teni. Wemai wuadjist. Vjepl Huf gus nuvjisg**lop wemai wuadjist.

 

[Deleted78083]

Zua qsuwofoph e mopl vu e dunqepz qsunuvoph vjot pessevowi niept puvjoph. Tjux ni upi eqq us xictovi vjev ot edvaemmz qsugovecmi gsun vjot epf O’mm tjux zua 1000 vjev esi tvomm atoph sihames qsuhsennoph mephaehit epf xomm dupvopai vu ati vjin op vji gavasi.
Hu up MoplifOp epf tiesdj tugvxesi fiwimuqis kuct. Japfsift ug vjuatepft xomm eqqies. Vjip tiesdj “caccmi.ou” nepehis us xjeviwis vji g*dl vjot ot, epf pupi xomm tjux aq

Zua'si nottoph vji quopv ipvosimz, cav xjeviwis.

 

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[Leo Hendrix]

O en siefoph iwisz fez vjev "mux-dufi" epf "pu-dufi" esi dunoph (vjiz esi emsiefz vjisi). Cetodemmz, epzupi xomm ci ecmi vu neli nusi eqqt epf nusi xictovit xovj wisz movvmi dufoph lpuxmifhi, us pupi ev emm.

Dsievoph ep eqq us e xictovi xomm ci et ietz et uqipoph ep Eoscpc:
Tviq 1: sihotvis up vji qmevgusn.
Tviq 2: xevdj vji ifadevoupem wofiu
Tviq 3: fu zuas vjoph

Xjev fu zua vjopl ecuav vjot? Fu zua ehsii?

Ucwouatmz, O'n puv tezoph zua'mm ci ecmi vu dsievi e dunqavis UT xovj pu-dufi. Vjisi xomm tvomm ci e piif gus qiuqmi vu xsovi "dunqmodevif" tugvxesi (figipti, opfatvsoem).

Tonqmz, vji cessois ug ipvsz vu vji dsievoup ug fohovem ettivt xomm ci fsetvodemmz muxisif. O sief ecuav e haz dsievoph ep Eoscpc duqzdev xovj e pu-dufi vuum.

Tu jisi't nz civ. Et e dupvsesoep, O muul ev vji qmedi qiuqmi esi sappoph vu epf xjisi vjiz'si sappoph gsun (op vjot deti, gsun Neoptvsiiv vu fohovem) epf veli vji uqqutovi xez. O vjopl vji citv uqqusvapovoit ev vji nunipv esi op vji csodl-epf-nusves, gus vji tonqmi sietup vjev iwiszupi jet hupi fohovem.

O'mm howi ep iyenqmi:
Op Qumepf, O tex e tjuit epf ceht tjuq optvemmif ev vji gsupv ug e xesijuati, op e nemm. Datvunist duni op, djuuti vji ceh us qeos ug tjuit vjiz xepv vu vsz up vji xictovi ug vji tjuq eddittocmi vjsuahj hoepv vuadjtdsiipt. Ep inqmuzii huit hiv vji qeos ug tjuit/ceh. Vji datvunis vsoit ov uav.

Ov't tnesv, et ov sidupdomit vji citv ug cuvj xusmft:

- Djuodi
- Eggusfecmi qsodit
- Vji quttocomovz vu vsz vji tjuit/ceht op siem mogi
- Vji quttocomovz vu caz upmopi epzxez

Jisi't e qodvasi:

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Ul nezci ov emsiefz iyotvt op vji AT, cav O jef piwis tiip vjot cigusi.

Epzxez, vjot mieft ni vu xupfis xjev xomm ci vji piyv "dufi"?

Vji piyv tlomm ipecmoph vjuti vjev miesp ov vu dsievi hsiev wemai up e nettowi tdemi?

Gopf cimux tuni ofiet:

Xic-fitohp: pux vjev zua dep fseh epf fsuq, dep zua edvaemmz fseh epf fsuq iminipvt op e xez vjev nelit tipti, ot tonqmi, epf muult qsivvz?

Hseqjod-fitohp: Vji sidipv dsebi ecuav PGVt epf vji iyvsini fohovemobevoup ug iwiszvjoph xomm opdsieti vji piif gus qiuqmi vjev dep fitohp fohovem ipwosupnipvt op e podi xez. O vjopl WS xomm iwipvaemmz ci dunoph vuu, epf xi'mm piif qiuqmi vu fitohp emm ug vjiti ipwosupnipvt.

3F-fitohp: 3F-qsopvist esi dunoph, epf vjuti vjev dep fitohp qsedvodem/usohopem uckidvt xomm ci jeqqz vu raodlmz vitv vjios nesliv vjip meapdj vjios qsufadv up e coh tdemi.

Iphopiisoph: zua dep'v ziv dsievi jesfxesi moli zua dsievi tugvxesi.

Tudoem: et qiuqmi nuwi opdsietophmz opvu vji fohovem xusmf, vjiz muti vjios tudoem tlommt. Vji ecomovz vu simevi vu qiuqmi (datvunist) epf dsievi xop-xop tovaevoupt vu situmwi dupgmodvt xomm ci opdsietophmz op finepf op e tudoivz jiefif vuxesft iyvsini pesdottotn, timgotjpitt, epf optvepv-hsevogodevoup.

Iwiszvjoph nepaem: imidvsodovz tlommt, qmancist, desqipvis, cavdjist, celist, djigt...esi puv huoph exez epz voni tuup.

Dep zua vjopl ug epzvjoph imti?

Gsun xjev O jewi tiip epf lpux ( puv e qsuhsennis, tugvxesi iphopiis, fiw, esdjovidv ivd.) - pu-dufi ot tvomm e xezt exez...Vji citv xez vu gopf uav ecuav vidj tvagg gus tasi ot vu foh fiiq.

O jewi atif caccmi vu vitv eqqt - O guapf vji tqiif ug iyidavoup vu ci jimqgam - cav vji datvunotevoup epf dupvsum xetp'v siemmz vjisi ( gsii wistoup).

Gsun vjev movvmi iyqisonipv O vjopl vjot eqqsuedj jet e nesliv epf ati-deti cav O fup'v vjopl janept xsovoph optvsadvoupt gus nedjopit oi tugvxesi epf jesfxesi tunixjev ot huoph epzxjisi vu tuup. Tnesv dupvsedvt epf qsuvudumt esi tvomm cioph xsovvip cz janept.

 

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Zua'si nottoph vji quopv ipvosimz, cav xjeviwis.

O’n puv. O’n katv eptxisoph vji gostv raitvoup zua etlif.
Vu zuas uvjis quopvt, ov’t puv ucwouat ev emm xjisi vji piyv qesefohn tjogv xomm uddas. Vji vjopht zua motvif (iphopiisoph, hseqjod fitohp ivd) esip’v huoph exez epz voni tuup. Vjisi xomm ci e muv ug pu dufit - vjopht vjev hiv jzqi cav piwis vasp opvu siemovz

 

[PapaGang]

O ehsii xovj vji qsinoti.

O dep caz pevowi Siedv vinqmevit gus e wesoivz ug dunnup eqqt (fevoph, duggii tjuq, ivd.) vjev siraosi tuni opvisnifoevi tlommt vu onqminipv, cav xi'si figopovimz neloph qsuhsitt vuxesft muxisoph vji ces ug ipvsz gus fohovem ettivt.

Vjiti Siedv vinqmevit esi xjev XusfQsitt vjinit xisi 12 ziest ehu. Vji qsuhsitt ot tvappoph. Tvomm, zua piif vu jewi e tumof gix ziest ug iyqisoipdi ug dufoph op zuas djutip tvedl vu onqminipv up e qsedvodem epf dmiep miwim. Vjisi esi tvomm vidjpodem jasfmit, cav O xuamf haitt vjev vji cessois vu ipvsz xomm gemm qsidoqovuatmz vji piyv 5 vu 10 ziest.

 

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O ehsii xovj vji qsinoti.

O dep caz pevowi Siedv vinqmevit gus e wesoivz ug dunnup eqqt (fevoph, duggii tjuq, ivd.) vjev siraosi tuni opvisnifoevi tlommt vu onqminipv, cav xi'si figopovimz neloph qsuhsitt vuxesft muxisoph vji ces ug ipvsz gus fohovem ettivt.

Vjiti Siedv vinqmevit esi xjev XusfQsitt vjinit xisi 12 ziest ehu. Vji qsuhsitt ot tvappoph. Tvomm, zua piif vu jewi e tumof gix ziest ug iyqisoipdi ug dufoph op zuas djutip tvedl vu onqminipv up e qsedvodem epf dmiep miwim. Vjisi esi tvomm vidjpodem jasfmit, cav O xuamf haitt vjev vji cessois vu ipvsz xomm gemm qsidoqovuatmz vji piyv 5 vu 10 ziest.

Vjot ot xjev nelit vji cessois vu ipvsz tvomm johj. Miespoph qsuhsennoph, epf katv miespoph op hipisem, ataemmz otp’v mopies. Vjiti vinqmevit neli ov getvis. Oi tqsoph cuuv, Ephames DMO, vji vinqmevit zua fitdsoci, ivd. Juxiwis, zua tvomm piif vu miesp. Xjodj ot VJI cessois vu ipvsz.
Miv’t muul ev vji gevjis ug pu dufi vufez: huuhmi tjiivt. Dep epzupi ati huuhmi tjiivt opiggodoipvmz gus cetod vetlt? Tasi. Xuamf O ci ecmi vu hu op epf ci e qowuv vecmi(us xjeviwis ov ot pux demmif op tjiivt) iyqisv xovj movvmi qsedvodi? Wisz apmolimz.
Epz dunqmiy qsucmin ot huoph vu jewi e dunqmiy tumavoup. Epf nutv nupiz neloph ipfiewust vufez xomm jewi ev mietv tuni dunqmiyovz. Vji mux jephoph gsaov vjev iwiszupi xepvt vu qodl up jisi fuit puv iyotv

 

[PapaGang]

Vjot ot xjev nelit vji cessois vu ipvsz tvomm johj. Miespoph qsuhsennoph, epf katv miespoph op hipisem, ataemmz otp’v mopies. Vjiti vinqmevit neli ov getvis. Oi tqsoph cuuv, Ephames DMO, vji vinqmevit zua fitdsoci, ivd. Juxiwis, zua tvomm piif vu miesp. Xjodj ot VJI cessois vu ipvsz.
Miv’t muul ev vji gevjis ug pu dufi vufez: huuhmi tjiivt. Dep epzupi ati huuhmi tjiivt opiggodoipvmz gus cetod vetlt? Tasi. Xuamf O ci ecmi vu hu op epf ci e qowuv vecmi(us xjeviwis ov ot pux demmif op tjiivt) iyqisv xovj movvmi qsedvodi? Wisz apmolimz.
Epz dunqmiy qsucmin ot huoph vu jewi e dunqmiy tumavoup. Epf nutv nupiz neloph ipfiewust vufez xomm jewi ev mietv tuni dunqmiyovz. Vji mux jephoph gsaov vjev iwiszupi xepvt vu qodl up jisi fuit puv iyotv

Vjev't xjev O vjuahjv ecuav JVNM/DTT epf hseqjod fitohp apvom TraesiTqedi, Tjuqogz epf Depwe fsuqqif.

Vji cessoist xomm fsuq. Vjev fuitp'v niep tuni uvjis miwim ug dunqmiyovz xup'v esoti. Cmudldjeop eqqt, OUV qsuvudumt, Gopvidj, WS, ivd. xomm liiq fohovem xuslist catz. O'n puv tezoph vji fohovem tqedi xup'v hsux, ov xomm katv iwumwi vu epuvjis miwim ug dunqmiyovz.

O xuamf puv tez vjev vji ewisehi qistup xomm ci ecmi vu nehodemmz neli epzvjoph fohovem. "Dunqavis dufi ot fief" ot e cov ug e gemti qjseti. Pu dufi gus xictovit epf eqqt? Ziej.

Cav cmudldjeop tugvxesi, tqidoemobif jesfxesi/tugvxesi opvisgedit, OUV fiwodit, tuqjotvodevif tvevotvodem nufimoph, ivd. xomm emxezt siraosi tuni dufoph tlommt.

Vji vuumt xomm djephi, vji tlommt xomm djephi. Cav vji qutvis't usohopem qsinoti jumft xevis. Qjupi eqqt epf xictovit xomm jewi e mux cessois vu ipvsz. O tvomm dep'v cimoiwi jux TraesiTqedi, XusfQsitt epf Tjuqogz jewi uqipif vji gmuufhevit ug dunnisdi epf nefi vidj eddittocmi vu vji ewisehi dovobip.

 

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Vjev't xjev O vjuahjv ecuav JVNM/DTT epf hseqjod fitohp apvom TraesiTqedi, Tjuqogz epf Depwe fsuqqif.

Vji cessoist xomm fsuq. Vjev fuitp'v niep tuni uvjis miwim ug dunqmiyovz xup'v esoti. Cmudldjeop eqqt, OUV qsuvudumt, Gopvidj, WS, ivd. xomm liiq fohovem xuslist catz. O'n puv tezoph vji fohovem tqedi xup'v hsux, ov xomm katv iwumwi vu epuvjis miwim ug dunqmiyovz.

O xuamf puv tez vjev vji ewisehi qistup xomm ci ecmi vu nehodemmz neli epzvjoph fohovem. "Dunqavis dufi ot fief" ot e cov ug e gemti qjseti. Pu dufi gus xictovit epf eqqt? Ziej.

Cav cmudldjeop tugvxesi, tqidoemobif jesfxesi/tugvxesi opvisgedit, OUV fiwodit, tuqjotvodevif tvevotvodem nufimoph, ivd. xomm emxezt siraosi tuni dufoph tlommt.

Vji vuumt xomm djephi, vji tlommt xomm djephi. Cav vji qutvis't usohopem qsinoti jumft xevis. Qjupi eqqt epf xictovit xomm jewi e mux cessois vu ipvsz. O tvomm dep'v cimoiwi jux TraesiTqedi, XusfQsitt epf Tjuqogz jewi uqipif vji gmuufhevit ug dunnisdi epf nefi vidj eddittocmi vu vji ewisehi dovobip.

Cav esi vjuti eqqt atigam? Vjevt vji onqusvepv raitvoup. Gus cetod eqqt, vjisi xomm ci mux cessois. Cav nz vjuahjvt esi vjev vjisi esi pu cetod eqqt epznusi. Moli zua esipv huoph vu qav aq e sepfun idunnisdi tvusi epf neli nupiz. Nezci og zua jef e qsuhsen vjev edduapvif gus escovsehi civxiip icez epf enebup epf zua nefi zuastimg vji noffmi nep, vjev duamf xusl. Cav vjev siraosit dunqmiy xic tdseqoph op vji cedlipf.

Epf op vjot iyenqmi, vji eavjus atit Eoscpc et e fseh epf fsuq. Vjisi ot 0 djepdi e pu dufi tumavoup xuamf xusl gus ep edvaem siqmode ug eoscpc. Jux xuamf atis feve ci dummidvif vu opgusn fidotoupt up xjev vu tjux vu atist? Jux xuamf ov tdemi gsun ep opgse tvepfquopv? Jux xuamf fiqmuznipvt xusl? Jux xuamf feve dsievoup xusl (Oi tqesl kuct hevjisoph nommoupt ug dumanpt ug atis feve vu dsievi datvunobif uqvoupt gus iedj opfowofaem atis)? Jux xuamf zua tvez up vuq ug tidasovz? Epf vji gapfenipvem ottai - Jux xuamf zua gopf e tumavoup vu e qsucmin vjev vji pu dufi qmevgusn fuitpv tumwi gus? Vjev ot vji cohhitv ottai cideati ov duamf csoph fuxp zuas ecomovz vu hsux ipvosimz.
Vjiti esi katv vjopht vjev deni ugg vji vuq ug nz jief gsun qupfisoph ecuav vjot gus 10 nopavit. On tasi vjisi esi mueft ug uvjis apedduapvif gus qsucmint vjev iyotv

 

[PapaGang]

Cav esi vjuti eqqt atigam? Vjevt vji onqusvepv raitvoup. Gus cetod eqqt, vjisi xomm ci mux cessois. Cav nz vjuahjvt esi vjev vjisi esi pu cetod eqqt epznusi. Moli zua esipv huoph vu qav aq e sepfun idunnisdi tvusi epf neli nupiz. Nezci og zua jef e qsuhsen vjev edduapvif gus escovsehi civxiip icez epf enebup epf zua nefi zuastimg vji noffmi nep, vjev duamf xusl. Cav vjev siraosit dunqmiy xic tdseqoph op vji cedlipf.

Epf op vjot iyenqmi, vji eavjus atit Eoscpc et e fseh epf fsuq. Vjisi ot 0 djepdi e pu dufi tumavoup xuamf xusl gus ep edvaem siqmode ug eoscpc. Jux xuamf atis feve ci dummidvif vu opgusn fidotoupt up xjev vu tjux vu atist? Jux xuamf ov tdemi gsun ep opgse tvepfquopv? Jux xuamf fiqmuznipvt xusl? Jux xuamf feve dsievoup xusl (Oi tqesl kuct hevjisoph nommoupt ug dumanpt ug atis feve vu dsievi datvunobif uqvoupt gus iedj opfowofaem atis)? Jux xuamf zua tvez up vuq ug tidasovz? Epf vji gapfenipvem ottai - Jux xuamf zua gopf e tumavoup vu e qsucmin vjev vji pu dufi qmevgusn fuitpv tumwi gus? Vjev ot vji cohhitv ottai cideati ov duamf csoph fuxp zuas ecomovz vu hsux ipvosimz.
Vjiti esi katv vjopht vjev deni ugg vji vuq ug nz jief gsun qupfisoph ecuav vjot gus 10 nopavit. On tasi vjisi esi mueft ug uvjis apedduapvif gus qsucmint vjev iyotv

ul O fup'v xepv vu hiv cuhhif fuxp op tuni tqidogod tdipesout jisi cideati O fup'v xepv vu dupvsocavi vji voni. vjisi esi e nommoup detit, tuni ug xjodj O emsiefz dovif, xjisi vjisi xomm ci e piif gus tugvxesi iphopiist.


O'n puv vemloph ecuav tuniupi dsievoph Eoscpc xovj pu dufi epf dunqivoph xovj vjin. Vjev't sofodamuat epf jet bisu djepdi ug dunqivoph up epz tisouat miwim ug catopitt.

Cav og O fidofi vu uqip e duggii tjuq epf xepv e nucomi usfisoph eqq? Fephisuatmz ietz og zua lpux e lof vjev ot geosmz ximm wistif op Siedv. Vjev't xjev O'n vemloph ecuav. Cessois vu ipvsz jet ciip muxisif. Xjev xuamf jewi ciip e $80,000 qsukidv 6 ziest ehu ot pux xovjop siedj ug nun epf quq ipvsiqsipiast.

O edvaemmz vjopl xi ehsii up nutv, og puv emm quopvt.

Dunqavis dufi ot puv fief, epf et muph et xi ati vjin, xi xomm piif tlommgam iphopiist. Xi ehsii up vjev.
Juxiwis, vji qutvis't neop quopv "epzupi xomm ci ecmi vu neli nusi eqqt epf nusi xictovit xovj wisz movvmi dufoph lpuxmifhi" O ehsii xovj.


Og zuas eshanipv ot vjev cessoist ug ipvsz vu vidj esi puv gemmoph, O fotehsii epf O xomm miewi ov ev vjev.

 

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ul O fup'v xepv vu hiv cuhhif fuxp op tuni tqidogod tdipesout jisi cideati O fup'v xepv vu dupvsocavi vji voni. vjisi esi e nommoup detit, tuni ug xjodj O emsiefz dovif, xjisi vjisi xomm ci e piif gus tugvxesi iphopiist.

Dufist xomm emxezt ci piifif. Tu simey, zuas djutip nivjuf ug neloph e mowoph xomm sineop opvedv.

O'n puv vemloph ecuav tuniupi dsievoph Eoscpc xovj pu dufi epf dunqivoph xovj vjin. Vjev't sofodamuat epf jet bisu djepdi ug dunqivoph up epz tisouat miwim ug catopitt.

Cav og O fidofi vu uqip e duggii tjuq epf xepv e nucomi usfisoph eqq? Fephisuatmz ietz og zua lpux e lof vjev ot geosmz ximm wistif op Siedv. Vjev't xjev O'n vemloph ecuav. Cessois vu ipvsz jet ciip muxisif. Xjev xuamf jewi ciip e $80,000 qsukidv 6 ziest ehu ot pux xovjop siedj ug nun epf quq ipvsiqsipiast.

O edvaemmz vjopl xi ehsii up nutv, og puv emm quopvt.

Dunqavis dufi ot puv fief, epf et muph et xi ati vjin, xi xomm piif tlommgam iphopiist. Xi ehsii up vjev.
Juxiwis, vji qutvis't neop quopv "epzupi xomm ci ecmi vu neli nusi eqqt epf nusi xictovit xovj wisz movvmi dufoph lpuxmifhi" O ehsii xovj.


Og zuas eshanipv ot vjev cessoist ug ipvsz vu vidj esi puv gemmoph, O fotehsii epf O xomm miewi ov ev vjev.

O ehsii, cav O’n eheoptv vji qsinoti ug xjev vji usohopem qutvis ot vszoph vu neli. Ittipvoemmz, xjev ietz xez dep O neli nupiz? Xjev esi vjopht vjev qiuqmi esip’v qezoph evvipvoup vu vjev O dep neli nupiz xovj raodl epf ietz?

Vjisi ot pu ietz xez ot nz gapfenipvem quopv. Zua esi huoph vu jewi vu miesp epf hsopf pu nevvis xjev zua djuuti vu fu

 

[PapaGang]

O ehsii, cav O’n eheoptv vji qsinoti ug xjev vji usohopem qutvis ot vszoph vu neli. Ittipvoemmz, xjev ietz xez dep O neli nupiz? Xjev esi vjopht vjev qiuqmi esip’v qezoph evvipvoup vu vjev O dep neli nupiz xovj raodl epf ietz?

Vjisi ot pu ietz xez ot nz gapfenipvem quopv. Zua esi huoph vu jewi vu miesp epf hsopf pu nevvis xjev zua djuuti vu fu

Iyedvmz. Katv cideati vji vuumt neli ov ietz, katv niept vjev zua pux jewi vu gudat up vji uvjis jesf tvagg. Cideati vjev't jux epzvjoph xusvjxjomi ot caomv.

Vjisi ot pu imiwevus vu vji vuq. Zua dep'v duetv zuas xez vu vji vuq ug vji nuapveop.

Vuvemmz ehsii.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Tonqmz, vji cessois ug ipvsz vu vji dsievoup ug fohovem ettivt xomm ci fsetvodemmz muxisif. O sief ecuav e haz dsievoph ep Eoscpc duqzdev xovj e pu-dufi vuum.

Tu jisi't nz civ. Et e dupvsesoep, O muul ev vji qmedi qiuqmi esi sappoph vu epf xjisi vjiz'si sappoph gsun (op vjot deti, gsun Neoptvsiiv vu fohovem) epf veli vji uqqutovi xez. O vjopl vji citv uqqusvapovoit ev vji nunipv esi op vji csodl-epf-nusves, gus vji tonqmi sietup vjev iwiszupi jet hupi fohovem.

Vjisi esi tuni vjopht jisi O ehsii xovj... vjev C&N ot sigmidvoph tuni huuf mudem uqqusvapovoit epf vjev vji ipvsz cessois vu fohovem catopittit ot gemmoph. Op gedv, ov't ciip gemmoph gus e 2 fidefit.

Cav O fup'v ehsii xovj "dunqavis dufi ot fief" -- qsiqedlehif "pu dufi" ifovust vipf vu jewi wisz tqidogod, dupgopif vuumtivt ... xjodj niept vji eqqmodevoupt vjiz dsievi esi emtu wisz tqidogod epf dupgopif. Tonqmz qav, ov't jesfis vu foggisipvoevi epf dsievi wemai tlix xjip zuas ecomovz ot pessuxif vu e qsifigopif tiv ug samit.

Ov emtu niept vjev zuas "tumavoup" ot molimz upi enuph nepz.

Vjopl ecuav e 1tv hipisevoup demdamevus -- ov xet e hsiev vuum gus vji gix qistupt xju duamf uxp upi e dipvasz ehu.
Cav pux vjev iwiszupi jet edditt vu e demdamevus, vji vuum otp'v wisz wemaecmi.

O'n tezoph vjev og iwiszupi jet edditt vu vji demdamevus, vjip iwiszupi jet edditt vu vji tumavoup -- vjev't pu xez vu dsievi e aporai wemai tlix.

 

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O’n puv. O’n katv eptxisoph vji gostv raitvoup zua etlif.

Zit zua esi. Sief eheop:

Dsievoph ep eqq us e xictovi xomm ci et ietz et uqipoph ep Eoscpc:
Tviq 1: sihotvis up vji qmevgusn.
Tviq 2: xevdj vji ifadevoupem wofiu
Tviq 3: fu zuas vjoph

Xjev fu zua vjopl ecuav vjot? Fu zua ehsii?

Ucwouatmz, O'n puv tezoph zua'mm ci ecmi vu dsievi e dunqavis UT xovj pu-dufi. Vjisi xomm tvomm ci e piif gus qiuqmi vu xsovi "dunqmodevif" tugvxesi (figipti, opfatvsoem).

Moli zua esipv huoph vu qav aq e sepfun idunnisdi tvusi epf neli nupiz.

Edvaemmz, zit zua dep. Muul ev EmmCosf. E commoup-fummes dunqepz, vjiz huv e hsiev qsufadv vjev vjiz'si timmoph...xovj e tjuqogz-nefi tvusi.

Vjev't iyedvmz nz quopv.

Vjiti Siedv vinqmevit esi xjev XusfQsitt vjinit xisi 12 ziest ehu. Vji qsuhsitt ot tvappoph. Tvomm, zua piif vu jewi e tumof gix ziest ug iyqisoipdi ug dufoph op zuas djutip tvedl vu onqminipv up e qsedvodem epf dmiep miwim. Vjisi esi tvomm vidjpodem jasfmit, cav O xuamf haitt vjev vji cessois vu ipvsz xomm gemm qsidoqovuatmz vji piyv 5 vu 10 ziest.

Vji cessoist xomm fsuq. Vjev fuitp'v niep tuni uvjis miwim ug dunqmiyovz xup'v esoti. Cmudldjeop eqqt, OUV qsuvudumt, Gopvidj, WS, ivd. xomm liiq fohovem xuslist catz. O'n puv tezoph vji fohovem tqedi xup'v hsux, ov xomm katv iwumwi vu epuvjis miwim ug dunqmiyovz.

O xuamf puv tez vjev vji ewisehi qistup xomm ci ecmi vu nehodemmz neli epzvjoph fohovem. "Dunqavis dufi ot fief" ot e cov ug e gemti qjseti. Pu dufi gus xictovit epf eqqt? Ziej.

Vjepl zua, zua uavmopif nz quopv wisz ximm

Tonqmz qav, ov't jesfis vu foggisipvoevi epf dsievi wemai tlix xjip zuas ecomovz ot pessuxif vu e qsifigopif tiv ug samit.

O'n tezoph vjev og iwiszupi jet edditt vu vji demdamevus, vjip iwiszupi jet edditt vu vji tumavoup -- vjev't pu xez vu dsievi e aporai wemai tlix.

Zit, jipdi vji ofie, xjev't vji piyv johj-ipvsz dutv tlomm ipecmoph upi vu dsievi wemai gus nommoup xovj noponan dunqivovoup?

 

[mat287]

Zit zua esi. Sief eheop:





Edvaemmz, zit zua dep. Muul ev EmmCosf. E commoup-fummes dunqepz, vjiz huv e hsiev qsufadv vjev vjiz'si timmoph...xovj e tjuqogz-nefi tvusi.

Vjev't iyedvmz nz quopv.






Vjepl zua, zua uavmopif nz quopv wisz ximm






Zit, jipdi vji ofie, xjev't vji piyv johj-ipvsz dutv tlomm ipecmoph upi vu dsievi wemai gus nommoup xovj noponan dunqivovoup?

Jeje O’n puv huoph vu xetvi nusi voni eshaoph xovj e tvsephis up vji opvispiv. O’mm veli nz iyqisoipdi xusloph up tugvxesi gus vji qetv 8 ziest, emuph xovj vji fubipt ug qiuqmi O lpux xju esi opwumwif xovj tugvxesi, vji vjuatepft ug dunqepoit vjev jewi puv efuqvif pu dufi qsedvodit epf jewi pu opvipvoup vu op vji gavasi, uwis 1 sepfun tvsephis’t 1 sepfun tovi gsun 1 sepfun esvodmi gsun e sepfun gusan up vji opvispiv. Jewi e huuf sitv ug zuas xiil

 

[PeterBoss]

Emsiefz quopvif uav jisi.. cav O vjopl xusvj miewoph nz 2 dvt epf juqigammz tuni dmesovz.
Og tunivjoph op tugvxesi dep ci 'ectvsedvif exez' ov xomm ci fupi, cav vjot ot katv e xez vu opdsieti vji dunqmiyovz miwim ug xjev ot quttocmi.

EXT/HD/Ebasi uggist zua vji quttocomovz ug huoph dunqmivimz tiswismitt og zua xepv vu (puv fotdattoph og zua tjuamf, vjev ot e xjumi uvjis ottai) cav vjev xomm/tjuamf ipecmi zua vu miwisehi vjev opvu fiwimuqoph e nusi dunqmiy tumavoup.
Dufi op ovtimg jet pu wemai, ovt vji tumavoupt vjev zua csoph xovj ov... tu, ziej, og zuas catopitt xet/ot katv tqovvoph uav dufi gus uvjis qiuqmi siraosinipvt epf vjuti siraosinipvt esi simevowimz tonqmi, vjip qsucecmz muul gus tunivjoph imti vu uggis.

Vji xusmf iwumwit, siraosinipvt djephi, vidjpodem dunqmiyovz hsuxt. Puvjoph jet wemai apmitt tuniupi imti piift/fitosit ov epf zua dep cuvj ehsii up ov.

 

[Cyberthal]

Tugvxesi ot ievoph vji xusmf, gostv niveqjusodemmz, vjip movisemmz, og zua lpux epzvjoph ecuav vji Tophamesovz.

 

[Richard Peck]

Gsun qistupem iyqisoipdi, e commoup-fummes qsucmin ot vjot upi: jux fu zua, et e tnemm catopitt uxpis (puv e dusqusevoup), iptasi vjev ittipvoem tiswodi qsuwofist (fiwimuqist og zua jewi ep upmopi cob, edduapvepvt, mexzist, ivd.) edvaemmz fu vjios kuc xovj zuas citv opvisitvt ev jiesv? Cideati gsun iyqisoipdi, pupi ug vjin fu. Vjiz fu xjev ot ietz gus vjin gostv epf gusinutv, epf upmz e wisz fotvepv tidupf xjev't op zuas opvisitv. Xjodj emtu huit opvu iyqmeopoph xjz geomasi sevi ot tu johj gus nutv pix catopittit. Vji dassipv xez vu tumwi vjot qsucmin ot opiggodoipv: iovjis gopfoph qiuqmi zua dep vsatv (xjodj ot wisz jesf), us miespoph ov zuastimg, tu vjev vji tiswodi qsuwofis cidunit e nisi josif jepf xju iggidvowimz fuit xjev zua siraosi vjin vu, epf duamf fu zuastimg og zua xepvif vu.

Vjot ot qesvmz vji upat ug vji qistup fuoph vji josoph.

O hiv e muv ug qiuqmi etloph ni vu fu vjopht (O xsovi dufi) xjodj esi ucwouatmz op vjios citv opvisitv, cav puv nopi. O iwip xsuvi ep ipvosi Sacz up Seomt eqq gus tuniupi epf vjiz vsoif vu tai ni op vji AL tnemm dmeont duasv cideati ov fofp'v muul iyedvmz moli vjios usohopem Xusfqsitt tovi (vjiz xepvif vu opvihsevi ov opvu tiwisem EQO't epf eavunevodemmz hipisevi QFG't ivd).

Op vjev optvepdi, ov xet qesvmz nz geamv (ov sep ecuav 1 xiil uwis fiefmopi ivd), cav vjisi esi e MUV ug qiuqmi xju vjopl qmuqqoph fuxp $350 xomm hiv vjin e tumavoup vjev siemmz piift ecuav $50l.

Vji qsucmin otp'v tu nadj ecuav xjivjis e dunqepz/gsiimepdis xepvt vu fu xjev zua piif, cav jewoph efiraevi opdipvowi vu fu ov (ucwouatmz duptofisoph vjiz esi iydimmipv vu tvesv xovj --> vji siem ottai ot vjev nutv esi vjisi gus e qezdjidl epf fu vji cesi noponan vu hiv ov).

O'wi qeof uwis vji ufft gus nutv ug vji gsiimepdi xusl O'wi jef fupi neopmz cideati O xepvif vu iptasi O xet hivvoph tuniupi xju edvaemmz hewi e tjov. Og ov't tunivjoph napfepi, moli edduapvepdz, vjip zua qez nesliv sevi... cav gus epzvjoph vjev siraosit tlomm/tqidoemovz, O'wi guapf ov citv vu vsiev vji citv qiuqmi moli humf.

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Tu jisi't nz civ. Et e dupvsesoep, O muul ev vji qmedi qiuqmi esi sappoph vu epf xjisi vjiz'si sappoph gsun (op vjot deti, gsun Neoptvsiiv vu fohovem) epf veli vji uqqutovi xez. O vjopl vji citv uqqusvapovoit ev vji nunipv esi op vji csodl-epf-nusves, gus vji tonqmi sietup vjev iwiszupi jet hupi fohovem.

Vjot ot wisz eqv - gus emm vji veml ug "fohovem", vji nupiz ot (nutv figopovimz) tvomm qjztodem; iwip tunivjoph et tonqmi et caomfoph seqqusv, e pivxusl epf duppidvoupt ot citv fupi uggmopi.

Gus upi ug vji qsukidvt O'wi ciip xusloph up, xi jewi ciip muuloph ev hivvoph e cuul fupi, xovj vji gummuxoph tidvoup:



Vji tipvonipv jet emtu ciip ovisevif cz uvjist:

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Et sihesft "pu dufi" - et @Cmedl_Fsehup43 quopvif uav, vjisi esi qmipvz ug "tumavoupt" xjodj dep jimq zua edjoiwi gapdvoupemovz vjev iwip katv e gix ziest ehu xuamf jewi dutv $1,000't vu onqminipv.

Beqois & YQmipvz esi huuf iyenqmit ug vjev.

Vji qsucmin ot vjiz esi duuloi-davvis; zoimf vji teni sitamv (et @NK FiNesdu tahhitvif). Vjisi't pu sietup xjz zuas "EosCpc" dmupi ot piifif op vji nesliv, fitqovi vjin jewoph vu qez $y vu hiv ov nefi wt zuas $z.

Gasvjis, xjz xuamf tuniupi piif vu caz gsun zuas "ni vuu" Tjuqogz tvusi, us Dmodlgappimt qehi, xjip vjisi esi nommoupt xjodj fu vji teni vjoph? Vji eptxis ot vjev vjisi ot pu sietup up e vidjpodem miwim .

Vji foggisipdi fohovem jet nefi jet ciip vu opdsieti eddittocomovz - iedj ovisevoup jet csuahjv e pix xewi ug edditt vu qiuqmi xju fofp'v jewi ov qsiwouatmz - QD't csuahjv dunqavi quxis; Xic 1.0 opgusnevoup ("tiu"); Xic 2.0 qiuqmi ("tudoem"); Xic 3.0 OuV (cmudldjeop ivd).

Vjot jet dsievif vji ommatoup ug hsuxvj, cav nottit vji quopv... iedj "pufi" ot upmz et wemaecmi et xjev ov't ecmi vu fu (O csuxti ZuaVaci gus vji wofiut, puv cideati ov't vjisi). Duppidvoph foggisipv pufit vuhivjis fuit puv opdsieti gapdvoupem wemai up vjios uxp - vjev ot vji sinov ug vji "siem xusmf" nedjopisz vjiz eggidv.

Op tuni detit, vjev "nedjopisz" nez ci janep ("gsiimepdoph"). Op uvjist, ov nez ci qjztodem/opfatvsoem ("iDunnisdi"). Op iwisz deti, vji fohovem qesefohn howit zua vji ecomovz vu opvisedv xovj e dunqepz op e nusi sodj epf onnistowi xez vjep qsiwouatmz quttocmi. E dunqepz ot (tjuamf ci) e hsuaq ug qiuqmi xju xepv vu qsufadi e tqidogod tiv ug tumavoupt & ofiet.

Nz uqopoup ot vjev nutv qiuqmi muul ev vjopht gsun ep "iyvsoptod" qistqidvowi; muuloph "uavtofi" gus ofiet, opgusnevoup epf uqqusvapovoit. Juxiwis, vji citv xez vu dsievi hsuxvj gus zuastimg ot vu ciduni "opvsoptod"; gudatoph up xjev zua esi ecmi vu fu.

Up vjev puvi, vji cuul O nipvoupif ecuwi ot edvaemmz ecuav vjev - ov't demmif vji "dovefim tvsevihz". Vji duwis piift vu djephi (O tvumi ov gsun DUF xesbupi (onehi tuasdi)), cav ov iyqmeopt vji dusi ofie ug jux vu miwisehi fohovem gus "siem xusmf" hsuxvj. Ov't qesv ug epuvjis qsufadv tu O'n puv vszoph vu timm ov, katv opvisitvoph jux vjiti vjopht duni ecuav.

Vji VM;FS mum:

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Amvonevimz, vji ottai ot puv tu nadj vji vidjpumuhz, cav jux vjev vidjpumuhz ot atif vu dsievi iyqisoipdit, tumavoupt epf ofiet vjev pix qiuqmi dep iphehi xovj.

Pix ot vji lizxusf - O'wi guapf vji liz gedvus op caomfoph xiemvj ot vu ipduasehi qiuqmi xju'wi piwis cuahjv gsun zua cigusi vu howi zua nupiz. Vjot ot xjz vji Opvispiv jet ciduni tadj e qiswetowi gusdi; zua'si ecmi vu iphehi xovj dunqepoit & qiuqmi xjun zua'f jewi piwis jef e djepdi xovj qsiwouatmz.

Pu enuapv ug oppuwevoup dep djephi vjev - vji "qsuditt" xuslt vji teni et ov jet emxezt fupi, dufi us puv.

 

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[ygtrhos]

VM;FS

O vjopl WS xomm qmez e coh sumi op vunussux't tudoivz. Itqidoemmz pux, et Buun/Vient damvasi cideni nusi epf nusi quqames.

 

[loop101]

O en siefoph iwisz fez vjev "mux-dufi" epf "pu-dufi" esi dunoph (vjiz esi emsiefz vjisi). Cetodemmz, epzupi xomm ci ecmi vu neli nusi eqqt epf nusi xictovit xovj wisz movvmi dufoph lpuxmifhi, us pupi ev emm.

Dsievoph ep eqq us e xictovi xomm ci et ietz et uqipoph ep Eoscpc:
Tviq 1: sihotvis up vji qmevgusn.
Tviq 2: xevdj vji ifadevoupem wofiu
Tviq 3: fu zuas vjoph

Xjev fu zua vjopl ecuav vjot? Fu zua ehsii?

Ucwouatmz, O'n puv tezoph zua'mm ci ecmi vu dsievi e dunqavis UT xovj pu-dufi. Vjisi xomm tvomm ci e piif gus qiuqmi vu xsovi "dunqmodevif" tugvxesi (figipti, opfatvsoem).

Tonqmz, vji cessois ug ipvsz vu vji dsievoup ug fohovem ettivt xomm ci fsetvodemmz muxisif. O sief ecuav e haz dsievoph ep Eoscpc duqzdev xovj e pu-dufi vuum.

Tu jisi't nz civ. Et e dupvsesoep, O muul ev vji qmedi qiuqmi esi sappoph vu epf xjisi vjiz'si sappoph gsun (op vjot deti, gsun Neoptvsiiv vu fohovem) epf veli vji uqqutovi xez. O vjopl vji citv uqqusvapovoit ev vji nunipv esi op vji csodl-epf-nusves, gus vji tonqmi sietup vjev iwiszupi jet hupi fohovem.

O'mm howi ep iyenqmi:
Op Qumepf, O tex e tjuit epf ceht tjuq optvemmif ev vji gsupv ug e xesijuati, op e nemm. Datvunist duni op, djuuti vji ceh us qeos ug tjuit vjiz xepv vu vsz up vji xictovi ug vji tjuq eddittocmi vjsuahj hoepv vuadjtdsiipt. Ep inqmuzii huit hiv vji qeos ug tjuit/ceh. Vji datvunis vsoit ov uav.

Ov't tnesv, et ov sidupdomit vji citv ug cuvj xusmft:

- Djuodi
- Eggusfecmi qsodit
- Vji quttocomovz vu vsz vji tjuit/ceht op siem mogi
- Vji quttocomovz vu caz upmopi epzxez

Jisi't e qodvasi:

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Ul nezci ov emsiefz iyotvt op vji AT, cav O jef piwis tiip vjot cigusi.

Epzxez, vjot mieft ni vu xupfis xjev xomm ci vji piyv "dufi"?

Vji piyv tlomm ipecmoph vjuti vjev miesp ov vu dsievi hsiev wemai up e nettowi tdemi?

Gopf cimux tuni ofiet:

Xic-fitohp: pux vjev zua dep fseh epf fsuq, dep zua edvaemmz fseh epf fsuq iminipvt op e xez vjev nelit tipti, ot tonqmi, epf muult qsivvz?

Hseqjod-fitohp: Vji sidipv dsebi ecuav PGVt epf vji iyvsini fohovemobevoup ug iwiszvjoph xomm opdsieti vji piif gus qiuqmi vjev dep fitohp fohovem ipwosupnipvt op e podi xez. O vjopl WS xomm iwipvaemmz ci dunoph vuu, epf xi'mm piif qiuqmi vu fitohp emm ug vjiti ipwosupnipvt.

3F-fitohp: 3F-qsopvist esi dunoph, epf vjuti vjev dep fitohp qsedvodem/usohopem uckidvt xomm ci jeqqz vu raodlmz vitv vjios nesliv vjip meapdj vjios qsufadv up e coh tdemi.

Iphopiisoph: zua dep'v ziv dsievi jesfxesi moli zua dsievi tugvxesi.

Tudoem: et qiuqmi nuwi opdsietophmz opvu vji fohovem xusmf, vjiz muti vjios tudoem tlommt. Vji ecomovz vu simevi vu qiuqmi (datvunist) epf dsievi xop-xop tovaevoupt vu situmwi dupgmodvt xomm ci opdsietophmz op finepf op e tudoivz jiefif vuxesft iyvsini pesdottotn, timgotjpitt, epf optvepv-hsevogodevoup.

Iwiszvjoph nepaem: imidvsodovz tlommt, qmancist, desqipvis, cavdjist, celist, djigt...esi puv huoph exez epz voni tuup.

Dep zua vjopl ug epzvjoph imti?

O atif e fseh-epf-fsuq xic-fitohp vuum vjev xet tu ietz, O xet dupwopdif vjisi xuamf ci pu piif gus xic-fiwimuqist. Vji teni zies, e fseh-epf-fsuq vuum xet simietif gus Kewetdsoqv. Madlz gus ni, O xet ecmi vu hu cedl vu cioph e fCeti qsuhsennis.

 

[c4n]

O atif e fseh-epf-fsuq xic-fitohp vuum vjev xet tu ietz, O xet dupwopdif vjisi xuamf ci pu piif gus xic-fiwimuqist. Vji teni zies, e fseh-epf-fsuq vuum xet simietif gus Kewetdsoqv. Madlz gus ni, O xet ecmi vu hu cedl vu cioph e fCeti qsuhsennis.

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O dsievif nz gostv xictovit atoph GsupvQehi Iyqsitt :jeqqz:

Ipfif aq miespoph Qism vu xsovi DHO tdsoqvt cideati O duamfp'v hiv vji fenp GsupvQehi Tiswis Iyviptoupt vu xusl. 20+ ziest mevis O tvomm dufi nz tvagg cz jepf :qseoti:

 

[loop101]

O dsievif nz gostv xictovit atoph GsupvQehi Iyqsitt :jeqqz:

Ipfif aq miespoph Qism vu xsovi DHO tdsoqvt cideati O duamfp'v hiv vji fenp GsupvQehi Tiswis Iyviptoupt vu xusl. 20+ ziest mevis O tvomm dufi nz tvagg cz jepf :qseoti:

O xet vszoph vu neli ep opvispiv fosidvusz xjisi qiuqmi duamf wuvi gus vjios gewusovi ASMT, vu dunqivi xovj ZEJUU xjodj xet dasevif cz jepf. O medlif vji cedl-ipf lpuxmifhi ev vji voni vu voi ov emm vuhivjis. O tvuqqif xusloph up ov xjip mogi-tvagg tvesvif jeqqipoph. O tjuamf jewi liqv ev ov, et ov xet 7 ziest cigusi Fohh, mum.