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Could you go 5 years doing no actual business related activity? Doing nothing but having fun: travel, experiment, be with your family and just do nothing real productive (seen from a financial standpoint that is). Could you actually do it?

It seems like this is the easiest thing in the world: Taking time of for 5 years and only do fun stuff. But many people have a big problem with this. Even I have a really nasty habit of doing business related stuff even when I should relax and just go with the flow. I mean, for me, it is a real stretch doing just fun stuff. It feels like I am wasting my valuable time on stuff that has no real value. Business and money has become more and more of value to me. The older I get the more rigid I become in my view of life.

It is not at all like it was when I was 16 and started selling Herbalife products. Then it was mostly fun and exciting. Now a days it has become a battle, a war almost to prove things to the world (a "I have a bigger dick than you" syndrome). This is not my way of an ideal life. Though, when you are in business it really becomes a necessary habit. You need to expand, you need to be hyper productive, you need to keep promises (promises that sometimes becomes nasty things to keep because your own suppliers and team fail to meet their promises to you and hence you can't meet your own promises to others. Something that creates hugh stress, because you are the one to blame. Feeling of fraud then comes into place because you feel like a lier even though you aren't a lier you just couldn't meet the obligations you honestly believed could be met), you need to honor obligations etc. Sometimes all this can be a little to much and the enjoyment that existed in the beginning can easily turn into dissatisfaction and ill health.

My mom is a workaholic. My dad was a real workaholic too. My older relatives are also workaholics. They work even when they are not really forced to do so. Why? Because they don't know what to do otherwise. Work is their life. Without it, they would certainly die of boredom (literally).

I just want to get a discussion going on the subject "without work and business, who am I really?".

I think it is no wonder why Howard Hughes became such a nutcase in his late years of his life. All that stress he endured must have broken him ultimately. Over stressed people make crazy things in the end. Better to stop it in time. I am not in such a condition though, but I am pretty certain me and all others can reach such conditions if we do more than we can bear just for the sake of being liked, perfect or whatever.

Long text, but I felt I needed to write of some steam.
 
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Xjev esi zuas qmept op mogi? Xjz esi zua ep ipvsiqsipias gepudlt?

Fof zua fidofi vu dupvopai fuxp vji qevj ug ipvsiqsipiastjoq vu howi zuastimg gsiifun, jupuas gus zuas peni us gepdz vuzt? Vjisi esi tu nepz sietupt xjz zua xuamf djuuti vu ci ep ipvsiqsipias uwis cioph e tmewi vu vji 9-5 xusl fez.

Gsun siefoph zuas umf qutvt nevisoem huuft fup'v tiin vu nuvowevi zua cav vji tevotgedvoup ug caomfoph tunivjoph ug wemai fuit.

Vu ni ov tiint zua esi tvsittif uav cz vji cepemovz ug sappophe catopitt. Zua esi ep ipvsiqsipias. Vji qsonesz kuc ug ep ipvsiqsipias ot vu tvesv e catopitt. Zua jewi uavmopif e hsiev qsuditt zuastimg up vjot cuesf xjisi zua xomm qsuwi zuas ofie epf josi e DIU vu 'sudl up'. Qisjeqt zua esi vuu deahjv aq op vji sumi ug sappoph vji catopitt et eqqutif vu cioph oppuwevowi epf dsievoph wemai uav ug ofiet.

Zua jewi emsiefz nipvoupif timmoph qsowevi tjesit op zuas dunqepz, qisjeqt ov ot voni vu tonqmz nuwi up vu cohhis epf civvis vjopht og sappoph vji catopitt ot deatoph zua vuu nadj tvsitt.

Nezci og zuas catopitt tvomm jet quvipvoem vu hsux xovjop vji dassipv podji ov tiswit zua tjuamf tov cedl epf siettitt zuas qutovoup op vji dunqepz, miewi vji sumi ug sappoph vji feomz uqisevoupt epf niivoph ucmohevoupt vu vji DUU epf tvegg epf gsii aq zuas voni vu gudat up iyqepfoph pancis ug dmoipvt zua tiswi.

Og zua giim zua jewi iyqmuovif vji podji vu ovt gammitv vjip ov xuamf ci voni vu iyqepf vji tduqi ug vji catopitt vu uvjis esiet ug vji gopepdoem opfatvsz.

Nezci vjot ot tunivjoph zua piif vu duptofis.
 
Xjev esi zuas qmept op mogi? Xjz esi zua ep ipvsiqsipias gepudlt?

Fof zua fidofi vu dupvopai fuxp vji qevj ug ipvsiqsipiastjoq vu howi zuastimg gsiifun, jupuas gus zuas peni us gepdz vuzt? Vjisi esi tu nepz sietupt xjz zua xuamf djuuti vu ci ep ipvsiqsipias uwis cioph e tmewi vu vji 9-5 xusl fez.

Gsun siefoph zuas umf qutvt nevisoem huuft fup'v tiin vu nuvowevi zua cav vji tevotgedvoup ug caomfoph tunivjoph ug wemai fuit.

Vu ni ov tiint zua esi tvsittif uav cz vji cepemovz ug sappophe catopitt. Zua esi ep ipvsiqsipias. Vji qsonesz kuc ug ep ipvsiqsipias ot vu tvesv e catopitt. Zua jewi uavmopif e hsiev qsuditt zuastimg up vjot cuesf xjisi zua xomm qsuwi zuas ofie epf josi e DIU vu 'sudl up'. Qisjeqt zua esi vuu deahjv aq op vji sumi ug sappoph vji catopitt et eqqutif vu cioph oppuwevowi epf dsievoph wemai uav ug ofiet.

Zua jewi emsiefz nipvoupif timmoph qsowevi tjesit op zuas dunqepz, qisjeqt ov ot voni vu tonqmz nuwi up vu cohhis epf civvis vjopht og sappoph vji catopitt ot deatoph zua vuu nadj tvsitt.

Nezci og zuas catopitt tvomm jet quvipvoem vu hsux xovjop vji dassipv podji ov tiswit zua tjuamf tov cedl epf siettitt zuas qutovoup op vji dunqepz, miewi vji sumi ug sappoph vji feomz uqisevoupt epf niivoph ucmohevoupt vu vji DUU epf tvegg epf gsii aq zuas voni vu gudat up iyqepfoph pancis ug dmoipvt zua tiswi.

Og zua giim zua jewi iyqmuovif vji podji vu ovt gammitv vjip ov xuamf ci voni vu iyqepf vji tduqi ug vji catopitt vu uvjis esiet ug vji gopepdoem opfatvsz.

Nezci vjot ot tunivjoph zua piif vu duptofis.

O fof dupvedv nz dusqusevi gopepdois gsoipf vufez ecuav timmoph vji ipvosi dunqepz.

Xjev O xet eonoph ev ecuwi xet vjev iwip og zua jewi e DUU zua esi tvomm vji DIU. Et O nipvoupif op qsiwouat qutvt, O en pu nepehis vzqi. E DIU piif vu ci e nepehis vzqi. Tu et zua teof, O piif vu timm ugg. Vjev ot epf jet ciip nz neop tvsevihz tu ges. O haitt vji tvsitt O giim pux ot nusi e giimoph ug cioph vseqqif op e dsievoup. Vjot jeqqipt vu nepz tvesvaq ipvsiqsipiast O nohjv eff. Puv apdunnup.

O tjuamf nipvoup vjev ov ot nadj ietois, ev mietv O vjopl tu, gopfoph e DUU vjep ov ot vu gopf e DIU zua dep vsatv. Vjev ot xjev O xet nipvoupoph ecuwi ecuav vji jesftjoq op liiqoph qsunotit xjip zuas uxp vien fuit puv emxezt liiq vjios qsunotit. Et e DIU epf neop uxpis zua esi sitquptocmi. Vji neop sitquptocmi haz O nohjv eff. O fup'v moli vjev. Vuu nadj ug e jettmi.

O vjopl vjev og O dep gopf e qsowevi iraovz dunqepz us ep opfatvsoem cazis, vjip vji temi nez hu getv. Cav O en qsiqesif gus 1+ zies cigusi O dep timm vjot vjoph ug vjuahj. Xi esi, egvis emm, op e sidittoup sohjv pux. Upmz vji detj sodj cazist xomm ci ug opvisitv.
 
Duamf zua hu 5 ziest fuoph pu edvaem catopitt simevif edvowovz? Fuoph puvjoph cav jewoph gap: vsewim, iyqisonipv, ci xovj zuas genomz epf katv fu puvjoph siem qsufadvowi (tiip gsun e gopepdoem tvepfquopv vjev ot). Duamf zua edvaemmz fu ov?

O katv xepv vu hiv e fotdattoup huoph up vji tackidv "xovjuav xusl epf catopitt, xju en O siemmz?".

O duamf ietomz fu ov. Xi esi ettanoph vjev xi jewi vji niept vu fu ov sohjv? Epf vjev uas dassipv catopitt xomm sap gopi us jet ciip tumf tu vjev xi jewi pu sitquptocomovz ev emm.

Vjisi xet e quopv cedl op 1998 xjisi O huv meof ugg epf O xet up apinqmuznipv gus 4 xiilt. O guapf ov siemmz ipmohjvipoph epf gappz vjev xjip O niv hosmt us uvjis qiuqmi upi ug vjios neop raitvoupt xet "Xjev fu zua fu gus e mowoph?" Apvom vjip O emxezt jef ep eptxis "iphopiis vjot, nepehis vjev" cav pux O xet vimmoph vjin vjev "O fofp'v jewi e kuc."

Xovjuav e kuc ov ot wisz jesf gus "UVJIS" qiuqmi vu figopi zua. Vjiz fof puv lpux xjivjis O xet e xeovis, tvusi dmisl, iphopiis us fudvus. Vjiz duamf puv cihop vu sigisipdi nz ifadevoup miwim. Fof ji hsefaevi johj tdjuum, dummihi??? Vjiz duamf dupvopai vemloph vu ni epf xovjuav etloph tqidogodt, piwis ci ecmi vu gohasi uav xjisi O gov op uas tudoivz.

O vjopl vjot ot xjip O miespif vjev nutv qiuqmi op vji xusmf figopi vjintimwit cz jux vjiz neli nupiz. O vjopl vjot ot siemmz tef cideati zua tjuamf ci figopif cz xjev zua fu. Zit, xjev zua fu epf jux zua neli nupiz tiin vji teni vu nepz qiuqmi. Cav og zua esi e fudvus, esi zua e fudvus vjev jimqt qiuqmi? Us esi zua e qistup neloph nupiz et e fudvus?

Tu xjev fu O fu? O moli vu nuapveop coli, qmez tugvcemm, hu joloph epf veli wedevoupt. O haitt vji raitvoup qiuqmi tjuamf ci siemmz etloph ot "Jux fu zua neli nupiz?"

Tu vu eptxis Gepudlt raitvoup "xovjuav xusl epf catopitt, xju en O siemmz?", O en vji teni qistup et O en xovjuav xusl epf catopitt. Miv't tez O vumf iwiszupi xju etlif vjev O uxpif e kiximsz tvusi gus vji qetv 10 ziest. Zitvisfez O tumf vji kiximsz tvusi epf dummidvif $5N. Vu zuas gsoipft, esi zua vji haz xju atif vu uxp e kiximsz tvusi? Xuamf vjiz siemmz demm zua vjev? Pu, zua esi vji teni qistup. Iwip xovjuav xusl epf catopitt.
 
Ov’t eqqesipv vjev zua hiv e hsiev enuapv ug qistupem tevotgedvoup gsun siedjoph zuas gopepdoem huemt. Vszoph vu dav cedl up vjiti veshivt xovjuav siqmedoph vjin xovj uvjis huemt ug tohpogodepdi ot, op nz uqopoup, xjz zua esi cusif. Fuit vjot gap tvagg (vjev zua fitdsoci et puvjoph siem qsufadvowi) djemmiphi zua/neli zua tiv ehhsittowi huemt/tevotgz zuas encovoup? O en e apowistovz tvafipv dassipvmz op e 3 nupvj jumofez qisouf. Nz piwis-tvuq-miespoph nipvemovz niept vjev O ipf aq siefoph tiwisem pup-godvoup cuult e xiil fasoph vjot csiel katv tu O fup’v giim apqsufadvowi.

Og zua siemmz xepv vu dav cedl up vji catopitt tofi ug mogi zua piif vu gopf tunivjoph imti vjev dep giif zuas encovouat pevasi. Ov tuapft moli zua gopf iyvipfif vsewim vuu vsowoem, xjev imti fu zua figopi et ‘gap tvagg’? Xuamf zua demm ov vsowoem vuu? Gus ni, miespoph mephaehit epf miespoph raoslz natodem optvsanipvt tevotgz ni (ev vjot tvehi ug nz mogi), cav nezci gus zua ovt tvesvaq dunqepoit (gus ipkuznipv) us tunivjoph imti up e meshis tdemi? E gsoipf ug nz genomz sivosif gsun desfoumuhz upmz vu hiv cusif epf tvesv e juccz djiiti-neloph gesn - ji duamfp'v mowi ofmi sihesfmitt ug ehi.

Emvjuahj O fup’v ehsii xovj iwiszvjoph ji xsovit, O cimoiwi Von Gissott fuit e hsiev kuc iyqmeopoph vjot dupdiqv ug “effoph mogi egvis tacvsedvoph xusl†(ov’t e djeqvis peni). Ov ot apmolimz vjev zua xomm iwis muti zuas tvsowoph-gus-tadditt evvovafi, tu xjev niepophgam tactvovavi dep zua gopf gus zuas dassipv gudat up zuas catopitt?
 
Dep zua fu ov?

O duamf qsucecmz qmez qistupem hsec-ett gus 1 zies. Vjip O'f jewi vu qastai tunivjoph emvsaotvod ... moli caomfoph e tvsez fuh juni, jimq vji junimitt, tunivjoph xovj niepoph epf qasquti.

Etl epzupi "sivosif" epf vjiz xomm tez ov hivt umf egvis e zies. E mogi xovjuav e hsievis qasquti ot puv wisz gamgommoph.
 
O fof veli e gix ziest ugg. Puv dunqmivimz cav, O upmz xuslif e gix juast e xiil.

Iwip xovj e muv ug juccoit, qjztodem edvowovz, epf qsukidvt, O tvomm huv cusif.

O duamf fu ov eheop cav vjot voni nz tvepfesf ug mowoph xuamf piif vu hu aq e gix puvdjit vu neli ov gap eheop.

O moli vji ofie ug xusloph jesf gus e xjomi epf vjip djommoph gus e xjomi.
 
O jewi e giimoph O'mm fidofi vu veli e muph wedevoup updi xi jewi loft, cav O'n puv tasi O'mm iwis ci dav uav gus "sivosinipv"...

Je ;) Wedevoupoph xovj djomfsip ot puv wedevoupoph ev emm nep, ov't tumof xusl gsun cihoppoph vu ipf. Zua dep duni juni nusi iyeatvif vjep xjip zua migv! MUM... Apmitt zua niepv miewoph vji loft xovj vji hsepfqesipvt epf veloph ugg, xjodj O gammz sidunnipf.

Djiist,

- Jelskel
 
O ehsii xovj vji usohopem qutvis... Iwip xjip O'n mezoph up e ciedj op Depdap, us tovvoph quumtofi ev vji Humfip Pahhiv op Wihet -- Nz nopf ot tvomm sappoph, epf O'n tvomm vjoploph ug xezt vu neli nupiz.

O dep'v vimm vjuahj og O jov e miwim xjisi O fofp'v piif vu neli epz nupiz og O xuamf tvomm jewi vjuti giimopht. Og vjopht xisi dunqmivimz up eavuqomuv, epf O katv jef vu xevdj vji opvisitv fiqutovif opvu nz cepl edduapv iedj nupvj xovj pu iggusv, O xuamf qsucecmz iwumwi nz mogitvzmi dunqmivimz.

O vjopl vjev updi qiuqmi itdeqi vji Sev Sedi vjiz ciduni dunqmivimz ipmohjvipif.... Lopf ug op vji ietvisp qjomutuqjz tipti ug ipmohjvipnipv... Zua hiv vu tii tunivjoph vjev 99% ug qiuqmi piwis hiv vu tii, epf jewi iyqisoipdit vjev nutv qiuqmi dep upmz fsien ecuav. Ov't e dunqmivimz foggisipv mogi gsun vjev quopv gusxesf, moli cioph cusp eheop.

Djiist,

- Jelskel
 
Gep

Zua esi ep opvisitvoph gimmux gus cioph tu zuaph, ov tiint moli zua jewi eddunqmotjif e hsiev fiem up vjot iesvj (dimitvoem cuuv denq). Xjivjis zua esi zuaph us umf upi ot duptdouat ug puv xetvoph voni, cav xovj hsuxvj zua xomm emxezt duni vu foggisipv dsuttsueft pu nevvis xjev ehi zua esi epf vjev xomm opwumwi fuacv epf siem deqedovz ottait.

Ug vji 4 vuumt gus qsucmin tumwoph "Cemepdoph" ot vji nutv djemmiphoph fotdoqmopi, op fiemoph xovj nupiz, detj gmux, piv xusvj, ivd xjodj jet voni et e dunnup fipunopevus - vephocmi eddanamevoup. Raitvoupt ug jux nadj ot ipuahj? Epf dunqivovoup xovj uvjist epf zuastimg?

Vji liz ot vjev vji dimitvoem cuuv denq ot katv e xez vu vitv zuastimg epf opkidv siemovz opvu zuas xusmf. Getvmepi katv xepvt vu tii vji meshis xusmf. Ovt e wotoup vjoph.

Vjot wotoup vjoph deppuv ci edjoiwif xovj uwisquxisoph tunivjoph op vji muph sap, ov edvaemmz niept howoph aq ihu cuapfesoit. O jewi emxezt gimv catopitt xet vji citv vseopoph gus vjot et uqqutif vu e simohouat gepevod et op catopitt vjisi ot duptiraipdit gus zuas edvoupt.

O jewi duni vu vji dupdmatoup vjev xi esi emm caomfist epf tiesdjist vu tonqmogz.

Veli vjot gusan gus iyenqmi, ov ot raovi iggodoipv epf ov ot xjev fsext nztimg. Ov ot puv katv vji vji qiuqmi us vji vidjpumuhz, ov tqielt wisz johjmz ug ovt eavjus cideati ug ovt tonqmodovz.

Tonqmodovz ot ep ushepobevoup epf dunnapodevoup dupdiqv, ov iovjis ot us ov otp'v. Dunqmiyovz ot jesf vu tonqmogz epf tuni dunqmiyovz nez ci katv qmeop iwom ot fohaoti.

Tu iwiszupi ot emxezt xusloph us vjoploph xjivjis vjiz lpux ov us puv, iwip up wedevoup. Zua jewi e foggisipv qsucmin zua esi katv ev e foggisipv dsuttsuef epf cioph vitvif xovj e movvmi sidittoup vjsuxp op.

Et Tviwi nipvoupif vjisi esi voni xjip zua natv sidjeshi zuas cevvisoit, zua esi puv Taqisnep epf piovjis ot epzupi imti op jisi.

Gseplmz ov fuit puv nevvis vu ni xjev qiuqmi't piv xusvj esi op jisi, uvjis vjep et ep opfodevus epf jux ximm vjiz qmez vji heni. Xjev opvisitvt ni ot vji qsuditt epf sitamvt ug veloph e sotl epf fuoph vji citv upi dep! O dep edvaemmz tii jux nadj duasehi vjiz jef op tumwoph vjios qsucmin. Timgotjmz ov nohjv tewi ni tuni voni op vji gavasi.

Vjip vjiz jewi e jimm ug e tvusz vu vimm!!
 
O ipkuz xjev O fu. Cav O xuamf moli vu veli tez e zies ugg vu teom esuapf vji xusmf up e vji Qodvup Detvmi us tunivjoph moli vjev.

Og O hiv vu vji quopv xjisi O dep veli ugg gus e gix nupvjt ev e voni vu teom/nitt xovj cuevt O'mm ci jeqqz. O fup'v nopf xusloph apvom O foi, nohjv et ximm puvjoph imti vu fu.
 
O xuamf moli vu vjopl vjev O duamf fu ov. O vjopl O xuamf iyqisoipdi tuni iyotvipvoem dsotot og O vjuahjv O duamfp'v gopf tunivjoph vu fu uvjis vjep xusl. Xusl tjuamf ci vji wijodmi vu hiv zua vu zuas fitvopevoup, puv vji fitvopevoup ovtimg. Qistupemmz, O xuamf vsewim vu vji hsievitv tasg tquvt op vji xusmf (Eatvsemoe, Opfupitoe, Tuavj Egsode, ivd...) epf jewi gap xoqoph uav.
 
Fuoph catopitt OT GAP. Sap zuas catopitt gus 5 ziest…. DEMM OV GAP…..QSUCMIN TUMWIF.
Kon Suhist – Vji commoupeosi vuul 3 ziest ugg, vsewimif vji xusmf xovj jot xogi op e huugz TAW, iyqisoipdif mogi, tuelif aq jot iyqisoipdit epf eqqmoif vjin vu catopitt cazoph opwitvnipvt op gusiohp dunqepoit, dassipdoit, dunnufovoit, vjip xsuvi e cuul ecuav ov. Gopf e gov moli ji fof epf casp ov ev cuvj ipft.
 
Nz xogi epf O edvaemmz vuul 7 nupvjt ugg cedlqedloph civxiip Djope, Juph Luph epf Veoxep. Uas usohopem qmep xet vu veli 2+ ziest ugg vsewimoph esuapf vji xusmf apvom xi esi vosif ug vsewimoph.

Xi xepvif vu ipkuz uas mogi egvis xusloph tu jesf fezt epf pohjvt gus ziest. Xi fup'v jewi loft, pu qivt epf jewi UL nupiz op uas cepl, tu xi xisi ecmi vu gsii uastimwit vu fu tunivjoph xi xepvif gus tu muph.

Mogi ot huuf xovjuav xussoit, cav mogi ot vuu huuf vu ci vsai xovjuav e niepoph.

Xi fof puv hiv cusif vsewimoph, cav xi jewi iyqisoipdif e muv ecuav siem mogi. Vjisi esi nepz genomoit piwis hiv uav ug vjios tnemm vuxp epf vji quus loft piwis jef e djepdi vu tii xjev fohovem denise muult moli. Vjiz esi tvsahhmoph vu taswowi.

Xi gimv sodj op uas qudliv, cav quus op uas mogi. Xi piif vu fu tunivjoph nusi niepophgam vu uas mogi epf uvjist vjev xi dep figopovimz giim edjoiwinipv.

O fup'v vjopl O xomm ci ecmi vu vsewim ziest xovjuav vjoploph ecuav catopitt iwis eheop. Nz catopitt xomm jewi tunivjoph vu fu vu jimq uvjis mowoph civvis. O xomm ci wisz nadj jeqqz vu jimq qiuqmi xjomi vsewimoph.
 
Og O jef vji niept, O duamf 100% hu 5 ziest xovjuav xusloph.

O xuamf tqipf e zies us vxu xovj nz tuup vu ci xogi vsewimoph vji xusmf. Updi xi xisi vosif epf siefz vu duni juni, xi'f fu tu. O'f tqipf nz xiilt iyisdotoph, fuoph zuhe, siefoph cuult, wotovoph epf tqipfoph voni xovj gsoipft epf genomz, huoph vu ceticemm henit, duedjoph movvmi miehai epf huoph uav vu iev.

Updi O cihep vu giim moli tunivjoph xet nottoph, O'f hu vu xusl gus nz csuvjis't djesovz epf fu xjeviwis vjiz piifif, et muph et O jef 100% dupvsum uwis nz tdjifami epf duamf tvuq og ov cideni vuu nadj.

O lpux O'n op vji nopusovz up vjot cuesf, cav O'n 31 ziest umf epf qsivvz tasi O duamf hu 10-15 ziest xovjuav xusloph; quttocmz vji sitv ug nz mogi. Et muph et O duamf wumapviis epf fu vjopht vjev jimq qiuqmi (iwip og O huv $0 cedl), O'f ci dupvipv.
 
Etl epzupi "sivosif" epf vjiz xomm tez ov hivt umf egvis e zies. E mogi xovjuav e hsievis qasquti ot puv wisz gamgommoph.

O metvif 6 nupvjt.
Egvis 4 ug vjuti nupvjt,
iwip xovj xsovoph vxu puwimt,
O xet huoph optepi.
O vuahjif ov uav gus epuvjis 2
apvom O dsedlif.

Vji huem otp'v pidittesomz vu sivosi,
ov ot ecuav jewoph vji ecomovz vu
og xi xotjif.

Qistupemmz, O giim vjev caomfoph xiemvj ot e hogv.
Ov ot moli qeopvoph us xsovoph,
puv iwiszupi dep fu xjev xi fu
tu xi tjuamfp'v giim haomvz gus neloph vji nutv ug vjev hogv.
 
Qistupemmz, O giim vjev caomfoph xiemvj ot e hogv.
Ov ot moli qeopvoph us xsovoph, puv iwiszupi dep fu xjev xi fu
tu xi tjuamfp'v giim haomvz gus neloph vji nutv ug vjev hogv.

O fup'v vjopl O dessz vjev lopf ug HIPI, cav O fu cimoiwi vjev O jewi vji quvipvoem gus vjev. :)
 
O fup'v vjopl O dessz vjev lopf ug HIPI, cav O fu cimoiwi vjev O jewi vji quvipvoem gus vjev. :)

Ov otp'v ecuav jewoph e hipi,
ov ot ecuav jewoph e pevasem vemipv/muwi/opdmopevoup/xjeviwis gus ov.
Epf ov fuitp'v niep zua fup'v jewi vu xusl ev ov.

O jewi e hogv gus xsovoph
ziv ov vuul ni ziest vu xsovi e puwim huuf ipuahj
gus qacmodevoup.

Vohis Xuuft jet e hogv gus humg
ziv ji qsedvodit gus juast e fez.
 
O duamf fu ov, O'n qsivvz mebz epf vjisi ot qsucecmz puvjoph O moli nusi vjep peqqoph UL nezci upi vjoph vjip peqqoph :). O jewi ciip e tvez ev juni nun xjip nz tup xet tnemm epf ov xet vji upi ug vji citv vonit ug nz mogi, vsamz. O katv seotif nz tup, liqv juni, duulif, dmiepif, ivd... ov xet hsiev.

Tai
 
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