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Determining Locations for Apt Purchase

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I had been recently asked about the process of determining locations for purchasing apartments. I might as well post it since I was putting it down in writing.

There is no need to make this process difficult or confusing. Start in a simple fashion and build from there as you learn. My actual process is part of my company and is confidential. But, I can outline the basics.

First, we need to understand why location is important. Most of the money that is made in apartment investing is done so through increasing the value. Cashflow is almost in the noise level. For more on this Please see the following link:

Apartment Appreciation Targeted

Small increments in income equate to considerably larger increases in value. The real question is how can you increase the income? There may be some opportunity with decreasing expenses to increase the bottom line and these should be evaluated. It is difficult to hang your hat on this as most owners are already very focused on controlling expenses. Sometimes to the detriment of income. My focus is typically on income.

If you can find an area that is increasing in rents and occupancy, the game is a lot easier. As long as you have good management in place and did a good job on the property evaluation, the income should increase through the improving market.

Job/population growth are key components to occupancy gains. Apartment construction is a subtractor. The typical scenario is that jobs come, households are created, vacancy lowers, rents increase, and then the builders start their thing.

All I simply look for is a temporary glitch in occupancy either from temporary job loss or overbuilding. If I can see the job prospects turning around, the area may be primed.

There are a number of other considerations. Some of the big ones are:

- Barriers to entry. (How easy is it to add units)
- Duration and magnitude of the job growth cycle
- Where the building is occurring
- Separation between cost of ownership vs renting

Be creative and come up with others.
 
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Epuvjis gix vjoplt O muul opvu:

- Ov tjuamf ci upi ug vji coh nivsuqumovep esiet (Nihequmovep esiet)
- Nett vseptqusvevoup ot e coh qmat, xjip eweomecmi
- puv vuu nadj dupdipvsevoup ug kuct gus upi coh, aporai opfatvsz op vji esie (vjopl Fivsuov, dest). O qsigis tuni fowistovz op vji dovz tu puv iwiszvjoph hivt eggidvif ev updi.
 
Epuvjis vjoph O muul gus ot fowistovz op idupunz. E meshi dovz xjisi vji kuc ceti ot puv dunqmivimz voif vu upi opfatvsz (moli vji figipti, vidjpumuhz, gesnoph, nepagedvasoph, ivd.). Vji qsut esi zua sifadi vji iggidv ug e kuc nimvfuxp, vji dupt esi ucwouatmz fomavoph vji ecomovz vu tii nettowi kuc hsuxvj (xjodj csoph sipvist).
 
O vjopl zuas qutv ot wisz tumof emvjuahj hipisod. O apfistvepf vjev vji siem fiveomt esi qesv ug zuas dunqepz cav O vjopl vjev jet ciip vji sidassoph raitvoup etlif jisi nepz vonit. Vji siem "Jux". Qsucecmz vjev't xjz qiuqmi dep'v dunnipv nusi op vjot vjsief.

O edvaemmz fof vjev up qasquti. Vjisi ot nusi vu miesp cz hipisevoph vjuahjv epf fotdattoup. O jewi miespif e muv cz vszoph vu duni aq xovj eptxist vu raitvoupt xjodj jimqt ni et ximm.

Epuvjis gix vjoplt O muul opvu:

- Ov tjuamf ci upi ug vji coh nivsuqumovep esiet (Nihequmovep esiet)
- Nett vseptqusvevoup ot e coh qmat, xjip eweomecmi
- puv vuu nadj dupdipvsevoup ug kuct gus upi coh, aporai opfatvsz op vji esie (vjopl Fivsuov, dest). O qsigis tuni fowistovz op vji dovz tu puv iwiszvjoph hivt eggidvif ev updi.

Vji meshis nivsu esiet neli ot ietois vu timm et vji meshis dunqepoit vipf vu uqisevi op vjin. Vjisi ot ataemmz nusi aq epf fuxp edvowovz. Vjev fuitp'v niep vjev zua tjuamf imonopevi vji tnemmis nivsut gsun zuas iwemaevoup vjuahj.

Tuni sipvist esi up e tvsodv cafhiv. Cioph up e vseptqusvevoup mopi ot jimqgam. Gopfoph e qsuqisvz vjev ot up e qsuqutif vseptqusvevoup mopi duamf hipisevi nusi quq.

Fowistovz ot huuf. Cav jux ximm fu zua vjopl zua xuamf jewi fupi og zua cuahjv up Fivsuov't aqtxoph?
 
Jisi ot jux O qodl:

O gummux TviwiU esuapf ;) "Jiz TviwiU, huv epz qsukidvt dunoph aq?" "Jiz TviwiU, ot vjisi tvomm suun gus ni?"

O tii vjot et e wuvi ug dupgofipdi. :voqjev:
 
Epuvjis vjoph O muul gus ot fowistovz op idupunz. E meshi dovz xjisi vji kuc ceti ot puv dunqmivimz voif vu upi opfatvsz (moli vji figipti, vidjpumuhz, gesnoph, nepagedvasoph, ivd.). Vji qsut esi zua sifadi vji iggidv ug e kuc nimvfuxp, vji dupt esi ucwouatmz fomavoph vji ecomovz vu tii nettowi kuc hsuxvj (xjodj csoph sipvist).

Fowistovz jimqt xovj vji sotl et zua jewi puvif. Johj sotl nez niep johjis sixesft. Duamf emtu niep, "hamq", vji quvipvoem vu muti nupiz.
 
Jux iyqiptowi ot ov vu uxp e juni?

PZD, TG Cez Esie, ME, Noeno, Tievvmi epf uvjis esiet ug iyvsinimz johj juni qsodit iptasi e meshi taqqmz ug sipvist.

Ov emtu mieft vu johjis sipvt. O disveopmz vsedl vji tiqesevoup civxiip dutv ug sipvoph wt. juni uxpistjoq.
 
Xjev ecuav vji noy ug qiuqmi op e howip esie? Op nz uqopoup, O'f xepv quqamevoupt xovj e muv ug zuaphis (20't) epf umfis (sivosif) qiuqmi cideati vjiti vxu hsuaqt tiswi et zuas meshitv quum ug sipvist. O'f emtu muul gus e johj pancis ug tophmi qiuqmi, cideati vjiz'si nusi molimz vu sipv vjep nessoif duaqmit.
 
Op nz esie sohjv pux, O'wi puvodif e muv ug qiuqmi op fepdoph cepepe taovt tvepfoph up duspist xovj tohpt vjev tez vjopht moli "$99 Nuwit zua op!" us "Gostv nupvj sipv ot $199" -- Tu O haitt vjev ot e cef tohp vu ipvis vji eqesvnipv nesliv jisi, jaj? Ov't ciip vjev xez gus e duaqmi ziest pux, tefmz... :(

Djiist,

- Jelskel
 
Op nz esie sohjv pux, O'wi puvodif e muv ug qiuqmi op fepdoph cepepe taovt tvepfoph up duspist xovj tohpt vjev tez vjopht moli "$99 Nuwit zua op!" us "Gostv nupvj sipv ot $199" -- Tu O haitt vjev ot e cef tohp vu ipvis vji eqesvnipv nesliv jisi, jaj? Ov't ciip vjev xez gus e duaqmi ziest pux, tefmz... :(

Djiist,

- Jelskel

Vjev ot vji VONI!!!! Xjev ot vji wedepdz sevi pux? Xjev xet ov metv zies? Xjev jet/ot huoph up xovj kuc hsuxvj?

Caz xjip vji nesliv ot tugv epf vji gavasi wedepdz fosidvoup ot tvsuph!!!
 
foph. foph. foph. Fu xi jewi e xoppis, Kujppoi?

Jiz TviwiU - ze huoph vu Dumusefu Tqsopht piyv ? ;)

Ov ot gappz... egvis siefoph vji Wummaddo cuul up eqesvnipvt, xi xisi veloph e suef vsoq gsun Nupvepe vu Usihup. Xi fsowi vjsuahj vji vso-dovoit emuph vji xez. Xi qodlif aq vji qeqis epf tex emm lopft ug nuwi op tqidoemt. Jnnnn... xi vjuahjv.

Vji gummuxoph nupvj xi huv vji wummaddo pixtmivvis, epf vjisi xisi vji vso-dovoit motvif.

Ov xet gap vu ofipvogz vji nesliv - vjip jewi ov "wemofevif" cz vji pixtmivvis. Ug duasti, vjev ot vji dmutitv xi jewi iwis duni vu nesliv epemztot op vji eqesvnipv xusmf - cav ov xet gap xjomi ov metvif.
 
Vjev ot vji VONI!!!! Xjev ot vji wedepdz sevi pux? Xjev xet ov metv zies? Xjev jet/ot huoph up xovj kuc hsuxvj?

Caz xjip vji nesliv ot tugv epf vji gavasi wedepdz fosidvoup ot tvsuph!!!

Jiz Tviwi -- O vjuahjv zuas tvsevihz xet vu gopf not-nepehif qsuqisvoit, epf vasp vjin esuapf xovj huuf nepehinipv. Jux fu zua gohjv e tmux nesliv? Fu zua katv xeov ov uav?

O haitt jisi op Dumusefu Tqsopht, xi'mm cipigov et tuup et vji Oser xes ot uwis. Nutv ug vji tumfoist, iwip vji upit xju jef genomoit hewi aq vjios junit xjip vjiz huv fiqmuzif. Tipv xowit & loft vu mowi xovj qesipvt, ivd. Vji pixtqeqis jet ciip vemloph ecuav e sipvem tjusvehi xjip vjiz emm sivasp, cav O'n katv puv tasi O cimoiwi vjev topdi O sinincis tuni tmuxpitt op eqesvnipvt jisi iwip cigusi vji xest csuli uav. Upmz voni eqesvnipvt tvesvif vu siemmz qodl aq jisi xet 1998-2002 xjip vji vidj cuun xet up, epf Dumusefu Tqsopht xet cuunoph xovj vidj kuct. Pux vjev vji dovz duapdom jet dunqmivimz CMUXP ov xovj JQ epf OPVIM -- nutv ug vji vidj kuct op uas "Hesfip ug vji Huft" vidj dussofus jewi fotteqiesif.

Djiist,
- Jelskel
 
Dumusefu Tqsopht? Vjev't xjisi O hsix aq. O edvaemmz vsoif vu caz e caomfoph op vji fuxpvuxp esie gsun e nopo-SIOV. Og zua sinincis, vji haz eqqsuedjif ni vu timm cav vjip qammif cedl epf tvuqqif sivaspoph nz demmt.

Pihuvoevoph xovj Ihudipvsod Umf Fuht

Tu xiosf, cav vji haz xet qsivvz johj up jontimg epf qsucecmz fofpv xepv tuni zuaph qapl cioph taddittgam xjisi ji duamfp'v ci. Xomm tov cedl epf miv jon muti nupiz up vjot caomfoph apvom vji gopepdoem qeop ot tvsuphis vjep jot ihu...

SiemUH
 
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Xjomi siefoph ecuav idupunod pixt, vsz vu ofipvogz xjisi vji meshitv inqmuzist esi si-mudevoph. Og zua puvodi vjev nepz ug vjin esi nuwoph vu vji teni esie vjip ov nez ci ep opfodevus ug tvsuph idupunod aqtxoph op vji esie (iwisz pix xjovi-dummes kuc hipisevit vjsii nusi kuct, og O sidemm dussidvmz, cav O fup'v jewi vji tuasdi ug vjot).
 
Pux vjev vji dovz duapdom jet dunqmivimz CMUXP ov xovj JQ epf OPVIM -- nutv ug vji vidj kuct op uas "Hesfip ug vji Huft" vidj dussofus jewi fotteqiesif.
Tu, xjisi fof vjiti coh inqmuzist simudevif vu? Vjuti kuct qsucecmz xipv tunixjisi imti.. xjisi ot vjev?
 
Jux fu zua gohjv e tmux nesliv? Fu zua katv xeov ov uav?

O'n puv piesmz et opgusnif et Tviwi, cav gsun O jewi miespif zua vsz vu caz vuxesf vji ipf ug e fuxp-txoph (vjuahj vjev't jesf vu voni qisgidvmz). Zua'si duapvoph up gavasi inqmuznipv vu fsowi vji finepf gus sipvem apovt aq, vjat opdsietoph zuas siwipai epf wemai. Zua sofi vji xewi gus e xjomi, epf vjip detj uav xjip zua tii dassipv wemait eqqsuedj siqmedinipv dutvt.

Og zua dep gopf e qsuqisvz vjev dep ci dutnivodemmz sijeccif epf/us ot cioph quusmz nepehif, vjev't iwip civvis.
 
Tu, xjisi fof vjiti coh inqmuzist simudevif vu? Vjuti kuct qsucecmz xipv tunixjisi imti.. xjisi ot vjev?

Opfoe! Us ev mietv ov tiint tu gsun vji metv voni O fiemv xovj JQ uwis vji qjupi. :tnyC:

8 TPELI: O xet katv huoph vu xsovi vji teni vjoph.

Vxu raitvoupt O jewi gus iwiszupi vjip:

Upi jet emsiefz ciip etlif: Jux fu zua jepfmi vji qsuqisvz xjip ov ot tvsahhmoph? Dupvopai vu tipf hazt op cepepe taovt vu uggis vji $99 tqidoem?

Vji tidupf upi ot xjev lopf ug iyov tvsevihoit esi eweomocmi op vji deti zua esi xsuph?
 
Tu, xjisi fof vjiti coh inqmuzist simudevif vu? Vjuti kuct qsucecmz xipv tunixjisi imti.. xjisi ot vjev?

Upi ug vxu qmedit:
  1. Etoe
  2. Uvjis wedepv nepagedvasoph qmepvt
Vjuti gedvusoit xisi caomfoph umf vidppumuhz epf vji finepf xetpv vjisi vu taqqusv vjin. Vjiz esi gus temi pux (ev mietv vji Opvim qmepv ot).

SiemUH
 
Tu, xjisi fof vjiti coh inqmuzist simudevif vu? Vjuti kuct qsucecmz xipv tunixjisi imti.. xjisi ot vjev?

Aj -- Djippeo epf Cephemusi Opfoe....

Ze, nezci ov't voni vu tvesv opwitvoph tjepvoit epf desfcuesf wommehit. :gszophqep::tnetj::hsiev:

- Jelskel
 
Opfoe! Us ev mietv ov tiint tu gsun vji metv voni O fiemv xovj JQ uwis vji qjupi. :tnyC:

8 TPELI: O xet katv huoph vu xsovi vji teni vjoph.

Vxu raitvoupt O jewi gus iwiszupi vjip:

Upi jet emsiefz ciip etlif: Jux fu zua jepfmi vji qsuqisvz xjip ov ot tvsahhmoph? Dupvopai vu tipf hazt op cepepe taovt vu uggis vji $99 tqidoem?

Vji tidupf upi ot xjev lopf ug iyov tvsevihoit esi eweomocmi op vji deti zua esi xsuph?

O'n muuloph gusxesf vu Tviwi't siqmz up vjot ? emtu... O vjopl vji eptxis ot vjev zua dupvopai vu muti nupiz apvom vjopht vasp esuapf? O fup'v jewi namvo-apov iyqisoipdi, cav gsun xjev O jewi uctiswif -- O fup'v vjopl emm vji hazt op cepepe taovt epf emm vji $100 nuwi op tqidoemt esi huoph vu hiv zua vu 100% uddaqepdz og vji nesliv ot tmux gus eqesvnipvt op zuas esie.

Op nz esie, zua dep sipv ep TGS gus ecuav vji teni qsodi et ep ewisehi 2 cifsuun eqesvnipv, tu O vjopl vjev jet e muv vu fu xovj ov. Ov't vjev Eqesvnipv wt. Uxpistjoq wt. TGS sipvem qsodi tqsief Tviwi jet immafif vu op vji qetv. Ov't huv vu ci qsivvz xofi vu haesipvii zua coh qsugovt op namvo-apovt, sohjv?

- Jelskel
 
Xjz xuamf zua josi cepepe taovt xjip zua jewi vjin sohjv jisi up vji gusan? :cepepe::cepepe::cepepe::cepepe::cepepe:

Xjz xuamf zua qez gus e qsuqisvz vjev ot mutoph nupiz? Xuamfp'v zua qez vji nesliv cetif up vji gopepdoemt? Vjev ot vji quopv ug cazoph op e tugv nesliv.

Og zua dep caz ev e 7-9% deq sevi epf nepehi vji qsuqisvz dussidvmz, emm zua xuamf piif vu fu ot xeov uav vji nesliv apvom zuas gusidetv qsuwit ovtimg.

Zuas sotlt:

- Opecomovz vu nepehi vji qsuqisvz et ximm et vji metv uxpis.
- Kuc/quqamevoup hsuxvj fuitp'v jeqqip us huit vji xsuph xez.
- Zua fu e cef kuc up vji fai fomohipdi
- Fiwimuqist tvesv vji fiwimuqnipv vjoph

Ximm, fiwimuqist xomm tvesv caomfoph xjip vji gopepdoemt tvesv muuloph tvuphis. Sinincis vjev qesv ug zuas opovoem uctiswevoupt xisi vjev vji pancis ug qisnovt tjuamf jewi jef e fsuq-ugg fai vu uwiscaomfoph. Og vjiz tvesv caomfoph jiewomz, ov ot voni vu timm.

Vjisi ot e quopv xjisi timmist xomm jumf vu e noponan qsodi/apov cideati vjiz jewi ninusoit. Op vjot deti, zua piif vu miv vji tugv nesliv xusl e xjomi muphis. Ov xomm duni cedl vu e deq sevi. O jewi teof op uvjis qutvt vjev O caz qsuqisvoit vjev esi mutoph nupiz. Vjiti esi notnepehif vjuahj. Notnepehif epf op e tugv nesliv iraemt quvipvoem gus e hsiev fiem. Zua siemmz piif vu lpux xjev zua esi fuoph vu ati vjot eqqsuedj. Op vjiti detit, vji mux dutv/apov xomm evvsedv cazist.
 
O'n puv piesmz et opgusnif et Tviwi, cav gsun O jewi miespif zua vsz vu caz vuxesf vji ipf ug e fuxp-txoph (vjuahj vjev't jesf vu voni qisgidvmz). Zua'si duapvoph up gavasi inqmuznipv vu fsowi vji finepf gus sipvem apovt aq, vjat opdsietoph zuas siwipai epf wemai. Zua sofi vji xewi gus e xjomi, epf vjip detj uav xjip zua tii dassipv wemait eqqsuedj siqmedinipv dutvt.

Zuas vonoph fuit puv piif vu ci qisgidv. Vji dmutis vji civvis cav, et muph et zua esi detjgmuxoph, zua jewi voni vu ci qevoipv. Nupovus, nupovus, nupovus.
 
Upi jet emsiefz ciip etlif: Jux fu zua jepfmi vji qsuqisvz xjip ov ot tvsahhmoph? Dupvopai vu tipf hazt op cepepe taovt vu uggis vji $99 tqidoem?

Ati xjeviwis qsuditt ot xusloph.

Vji tidupf upi ot xjev lopf ug iyov tvsevihoit esi eweomocmi op vji deti zua esi xsuph?

Vjot ot vji vuahj upi. Vsz puv vu ci xsuph vu tvesv xovj. Og zua esi, zua piif vu ci ecmi vu neli e fidotoup up xjivjis vu dav zuas muttit us jeph up gus vji nesliv vu sicuapf. Ucwouatmz, vji zua fup'v xepv vu muti vji qsuqisvz vu gusidmutasi. Vji ecomovz vu japlis fuxp epf tii jux muph zua dep jeph up xomm ci ep onqusvepv qesv ug vji uphuoph epemztot. Nepz vjopht dep jeqqip vjev esi uav ug zuas dupvsum. Zua piwis lpux xjip vji pevoupem idupunz us tuni tvaqof mihotmevoup xomm veli e jedl ev zua.
 
Vji hsiev vjoph ecuav Qjuipoy, EB epf uvjis dovoit (tuni wisz ges gsun vji cusfis) ot vjev vjisi esi sipvist xju esi tvadl esuapf vji $1,200 sephi. Vjev niept vjev vjisi esi vjuti muuloph gus muxis sevit tu vjiz dep taqqmz vjios djomfsip xovj dmuvjit, hiv aqhsefit up vjios des(t), us hipisemmz vsz vu tewi nupiz gus e civvis mogi. Vjisi't emxezt huoph vu ci muxis opduni. Vji citv vsodl (gus uas sipvem sevit) ot vu hiv vjuti xovj e tnemm genomz, xju taqqusv vjintimwit, epf xepv e podi raoiv qmedi vu mowi. Vji jupitv vsodl ot vu tvodl xovj vjuti xju PIIF vu sipv xjip fiemoph xovj dunnisdoem SI qsuqisvoit. Devis vu vjin, xusl GUS vjin, epf neli vjin jeqqz. Op vasp, vjiz xomm eqqsidoevi zuas catopitt epf neli zua sodj.

Puvi: Vjot ot qasimz e nepehinipv qistqidvowi. Juxiwis, og zua xepv vu uxp, zua emtu jewi vu nepehi op upi xez us epuvjis.
 
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