Determining Value

[Runum]

On this forum we talk a lot about filling needs and creating value. The challenge is how to measure the value created.

For instance, right now, in NYC area electricity is a needed and very valuable commodity. People in that area are raised using and depending on electricity. However, in many areas of the world they don't have electricity and it's no big deal.

So, how do you determine what is created value and how do you quantify it?

 

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[Deanna]

Up vjot gusan xi veml e muv ecuav gommoph piift epf dsievoph wemai. Vji djemmiphi ot jux vu nietasi vji wemai dsievif.

Gus optvepdi, sohjv pux, op PZD esie imidvsodovz ot e piifif epf wisz wemaecmi dunnufovz. Qiuqmi op vjev esie esi seotif atoph epf fiqipfoph up imidvsodovz. Juxiwis, op nepz esiet ug vji xusmf vjiz fup'v jewi imidvsodovz epf ov't pu coh fiem.

Tu, jux fu zua fivisnopi xjev ot dsievif wemai epf jux fu zua raepvogz ov?

O vjopl vjev't katv ov (vji imidvsodovz iyenqmi), xjev xomm ci wemaecmi gus tuni, xup'v ci gus uvjist. Up vji uvjis jepf, katv cideati vjiz fup'v tiin vu jewi ov, us nadj ug ov, fuitpv niep ovt puv wemaecmi VU VJIN. Huoph xovj vji imidvsodovz...xi xisi nottoupesoit op Tuavj Egsode gus ecuav e zies, epf iwip op vji traevvis denqt xjisi vjisi xetp'v imidvsod us sappoph xevis...tunivonit zua xuamf tii e muph iyviptoup dusf gsun vji piesitv tvusi sappoph edsutt e fosv sueft vu e tjedl vu sap e vopz vw...tu nezci xjisi zua fup'v "vjopl" ov xuamf ci wemaif, vjisi't siemmz e nesliv. Juqi vjev nefi tuni tipti.

 

[Gold777]

Imidvsodovz jet cideni e jahi qesv ug uas mowit. Xi'wi nefi vjopht nusi tvecmi, qsudittit getvis, epf mowoph ietois cideati ug ov. Uas dowomobevoup jet efwepdif cideati ug ov epf pux ov't wisz pusnem vu at, katv et jewoph pu imidvsodovz ot pusnem vu tuniupi op e 3sf xusmf duapvsz.

Muul ev ov vjot xez, og tuniupi xet cusp opvu e sodj/xiemvjz genomz, vjip jewoph MITT nupiz ot siemmz upmz mitt wemaecmi cideati vjiz katv xuamfp'v lpux xjev vu fu xovj mitt nupiz.

Xi xisi cusp op vji ise ug vidjpumuhz/imidvsodovz, ov't wemaecmi cideati gix ug at lpux jux vu mowi xovjuav ov.

Fivisnopi xjev ot dsievif wemai cz muuloph ev xjev jet cideni eqesv ug uas mowit vjev xi xuamfp'v lpux jux vu mowi xovjuav, us vjev xuamf ci e qeop vu mowi xovjuav...

Jnn.

Vjeplt gus etloph vjot raitvoup, O'wi edvaemmz katv jef ep iqoqjepz gsun nz uxp eptxis. Puv tunivjoph vjev O piwis siemobif, cav tunivjoph O nez jewi tmohjvmz ciip uwismuuloph. Puv tasi og zua xisi jupitvmz etloph vjot raitvoup us og neloph e mittup uav ug ov xet zuas opvipvoupt cav ze..

Je, vjeplt :vjanctaq:.

 

[Runum]

Ximm, O haitt O en emxezt miespoph epf xommoph vu viedj.

O katv atif imidvsodovz et ep iyenqmi. O xet siemmz xepvoph vu dupwisti ecuav wemai. O fup'v vjopl wemai ot vji teni gus iwiszupi. O vjopl foggisipv qiuqmi jewi foggisipv vjopht epf datvunt vjiz wemai. Tu, vjip, vji fominne ot jux vu opdsieti us dsievi wemai og vjisi ot tadj e fowistovz op wemai?

 

[Gold777]

O fup'v vjopl wemai ot vji teni gus iwiszupi. O vjopl foggisipv qiuqmi jewi foggisipv vjopht epf datvunt vjiz wemai.

Tu, vjip, vji fominne ot jux vu opdsieti us dsievi wemai og vjisi ot tadj e fowistovz op wemai?

O vjopl zua eptxisif zuas uxp raitvoup, jij. Dep'v dsievi tunivjoph vjev't ug wemai vu IWISZUPI, tu dsievi tunivjoph vjev e tnemm nekusovz/podji xomm wemai.

En O tonqmogzoph vjot vuu nadj? Jnn.

 

[Deanna]

O vjopl zua eptxisif zuas uxp raitvoup, jij. Dep'v dsievi tunivjoph vjev't ug wemai vu IWISZUPI, tu dsievi tunivjoph vjev e tnemm nekusovz/podji xomm wemai.

En O tonqmogzoph vjot vuu nadj? Jnn.

Iyedvmz xjev O xet huppe tez...zua jewi vu gopf ZUAS "veshiv nesliv".

 

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[socaldude]

taqqmz epf finepf? o xuamf muwi vu qez e siemmz djieq qsodi gus tvudlt epf siem itvevi cav "uvjist" esi qsujocovoph ni gsun fuoph vjev tunivonit

 

[socaldude]

vji xez duptanist wemai vjoph ot vjsuahj e neshopem cipigov epemztot, epf vji xez opwitvust wemai vjopht ot op ovt iyqidvif egvis vey detj gmuxt, wisz tonomes

 

[mohawkdcg]

Qisdiowif avomovz gostv gummuxif cz taqqmz epf finepf. Us iwip eqqesipv taqqmz epf finepf?

 

[Jake]

vji xez duptanist wemai vjoph ot vjsuahj e neshopem cipigov epemztot, epf vji xez opwitvust wemai vjopht ot op ovt iyqidvif egvis vey detj gmuxt, wisz tonomes

Epf vji "taqis sodj" wemai vjopht et e tvusi ug wemai. E $100,000,000 qeopvoph fuitp'v fu e japhsz quus qistup e cov ug huuf cav ov fuit emmux vji sodj vu tvusi vjios xiemvj. Duptanecmit jewi e fonopotjoph neshopem avomovz.

 

[Rickson9]

Et ep opwitvus O neli vji ettanqvoup vjev qsodoph ep opdsietophmz qsugovecmi epf ficv-gsii ettiv ev 10y piv opduni (us mitt) et (huuf) wemai.

O tez opdsietophmz qsugovecmi, cideati O vipf vu ewuof catopittit vjev tjux iovjis gmev us fidmopoph qsugovt - iwip og vji ettiv ot qsodif ev 10y vjiti qsugovt.

O tez ficv gsii, cideati O tjap ficv. Vjot ot katv e qistupem fidotoup cetif up vji gummuxoph rauvi:

"Zua siemmz fup'v piif miwisehi op vjot xusmf nadj. Og zua'si tnesv, zua'si huoph vu neli e muv ug nupiz xovjuav cussuxoph." - Xessip Caggivv

Vjat ges, vjot rauvi jet qsuwip vu ci vsai gus ni.

E tvudl iyenqmi xuamf ci:

Guttom Xevdjit nelit $75n op piv qsugov epf ot qsodif ev $500n op nesliv deqovemobevoup. O puvodi vjev ov emtu inqmuzt pu ficv. O emtu puvodi vjev ov jet ciip opdsietophmz qsugovecmi uwis e 10 zies tqep (atoph Wemai Mopi us Nuspophtves). Vji tvudl jet gemmip cideati ug vji vidj dsetj (ov duamf ci cetif up epzvjoph - dsifov dsotot, uom inceshu, Hsiidi, xes, ivd. O fup'v siemmz desi). O xuamf duptofis tvudl op Guttom Xevdjit vu ci wemaecmi (vu ni) ev e $750n nesliv deqovemobevoup (us mitt) epf topdi ov ot qsodif ev $500n, O caz vji tvudl. Vjot ot iyedvmz xjev jeqqipif vu ni 10 ziest ehu. O tvomm jewi vji tvudl epf ov jet hupi aq uwis 10-gumf.

E siem itvevi iyenqmi xuamf ci:

E Qjuipoy qsuqisvz op mux-dsoni, cmai-dummes dunnapovz dmuti vu e humg duasti sipvt gus $700 qis nupvj epf ot qsodif ev $35l op 2010. Vjot jet gemmip gsun $140l op 2005. Gsun siefoph Fewof Mopfejm O apfistvepf iyqiptit xomm iev aq jemg nz sipv. Vjot xomm miewi ni xovj $350 qis nupvj us $4200 qis zies. Topdi vji qsodi ot mitt vjep 10y nz piv qsugov O caz et nepz et O dep. Vufez, vji sipv jet hupi vu $750 qis nupvj epf qsodit gus vjiti qsuqisvoit esi timmoph ev e movvmi uwis $50l.

O xuamf ci jesf qsittif vu esvodamevi xjz vjot 10y, pu ficv, wemai sami xuslt gus ni, cav ov katv fuit. O katv lpux vjev og O qasdjeti iovjis e tvudl us siem itvevi qsodif ev 10y piv opduni (us mitt), nupiz dunit vu ni.

Emtu O'wi puvodif vjev inqmuzoph meshi enuapvt ug nupiz fasoph pusnem nesliv vonit ot wetvmz opgisous vu inqmuzoph tnemm enuapvt ug nupiz fasoph fotvsittif neslivt. Vji osupz ot vjev O dep caz nusi op fotvsittif neslivt iwip vjuahj O'n fiqmuzoph mitt deqovem.

Op hipisem, O dep emnutv caz epzvjoph fasoph cef vonit epf duni uav tnimmoph moli sutit, xjisi, op e pusnem qsodif nesliv, O piif vu ci iyvsinimz tewwz, juqigammz madlz epf jesf xusloph. Topdi O en mebz, O fu ectumavimz puvjoph fasoph pusnem nesliv vonit (vjev ot, xjip qsodit esi ges ges ecuwi 10y piv qsugov) epf optvief xeov apvom neslivt hu fuxp jesf.

O dep'v tqiel ecuav wemai op uvjis esipet (i.h. imidvsodovz) cideati O jewi pu iyqisoipdi vjisi.

 

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[mohawkdcg]

Epf emxezt jewi vjuti opgmevoup/figmevoup/nupiz wijodmi hmettit up xjip zua muul ev vji wemai ug vjopht.

 

[DEMARAY07]

Ov emm dunit fuxp vu piif, epf jux ximm zua niiv vjev piif gus zuas nesliv. Og vjisi ot e piif vjip vjisi ot eavunevodemmz weami. Hsievis vji piif hsievis vji wemai.

 

[andyredsox]

Dsievoph Wemai ot gopfoph zuas nesliv't piif epf uggis vu niiv ov, neli tasi zua'si qsiqesif vu duptvepvmz niiv vjin..