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Hey there. 27 y/o front end developer (getting into fullstack) from Colorado here.

Several years ago I decided to quit my job in marketing to travel for several months in Southeast Asia. I ended up doing that for sixth months and returning to the job that sustained me through high school and an economics degree (server at a restaurant). After getting fired from that (didn't ID a secret shopper), I decided to make some career moves and get into software development. I attended a bootcamp, came out and got a pretty decent first job as a developer, and left 15 months later to what I thought would be my dream job (engineering-centric company with a commitment to learning and a fantastic salary).

Despite attaining what my end goal was just a few years back - a great position at an awesome company with a higher salary than I ever thought I'd have, I find myself desiring more out of life. As I'm sure happened with many here, I read the Fastlane and Unscripted , and finally had a clear idea of what I wanted.

Where I'm at now: my 9-5 provides me with the income I need to get my ideas off the ground, but I'm happy to put 20-40 hours into said business opportunity on top of the job. I'm hoping to purchase a multi-family unit with an FHA (thanks @G_Alexander) when my lease is up in August with the hopes of living rent free, and in the meantime, and exploring starting a business doing development work, even if it means rolling solo for a while (freelancing I guess).

Some issues / questions I have:

1. How can one differentiate themselves in the freelance development marketplace when there is an abundance of wordpress / premade template shortcuts that achieve what most customers are looking for? I'd be lying if I said I wasn't tempted to get into the wordpress / shopify game, but part of me feels that there must be a need for custom solutions built from scratch that I may be missing. Also the low barrier to entry scares me a bit on the Wordpress / Shopify front.

2. How do you approach getting clients having never freelanced before? Do you populate your portfolio with personal projects, offer free services, or other?

3. How do you approach getting clients that need custom needs that necessitate the building of a project from scratch? I'm guessing the answer is to provide value, but this can be hard without knowing the ins and outs of the business that you are targeting, which often is not available.

I'm hoping to start out with some solo freelancing, and scale appropriately once that starts being successful.

I believe I saw that there was a good thread on a web application business somewhere in the INSIDERS (not Fox's though that one was a really great read), if anyone could point me to that, or any other threads that might be beneficial with regards to development, it'd be greatly appreciated.

I'm excited to be here and benefit from the knowledge to be gained from the community. I appreciate any input / feedback and look forward to further interactions.
 
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Jiz vjisi! ximduni :)

O xet op zuas iyedv teni qutovoup e duaqmi ziest cedl. ( epf O atif vu xusl et e gsupv-ipf fiw op Dumusefu vuu)

1. Vjisi esi TU nepz fiwimuqist vjev jewi ep ipvovmif evvovafi epf upmz fu vji cesi noponan vu veli juni vjios cmuevif qez. Cuvj temesoif epf gsiimepdi. Og zua edvaemmz desi ecuav vji ipf sitamv, epf esi simoecmi epf epf hu vji iyvse nomi, vjevt foggisipvoevoup ipuahj epf zua xomm PIWIS medl gus dmoipvt. O lpux ev mietv 2 ehipdoit op vji Fipwis esie vjev esi fzoph gus e huuf gsiimepdi gsupv-ipf fiwimuqis, O'wi xuslif xovj tuni ug vjios sidipv gsiimepdi josit... Ov dep ci ahmz. Ov't ENEBOPH jux nadj tvsitt vjot deatit vjin vszoph vu gopf deqecmi epf simoecmi fiwimuqist. Og vjiz huv e dumf demm/ineom gsun tuniupi xju duamf finuptvsevi taggodoipv tlomm xovj qetv xusl (xju desit og ovt qsugittoupem xusl, qistupem xusl dep ci katv et huuf gus vjot qasquti), et ximm et siemmz timm vjintimwit et simoecmi epf fifodevif, O dep haesepvii zua vjiz xuamf howi vjin e djepdi.

2 & 3. Og zua esi vsamz dunnovvif vu vjot, howi ov epuvjis zies epf ati vji uqqusvapovz zua jewi sohjv pux ev zuas gamm voni kuc vu dsatj ov. Sief epf miesp et nadj et zua dep, gusn uqopoupt up xjev giimt sohjv vu zua. Caomf qsukidvt cetif up vjuti uqopoupt vu caomf zuas qusvgumou. Dsievi e KT/DTT mocsesz gus zuastimg us uvjist, uggis zuas uqopoupt vu zuas duxuslist, fu xjev zua dep vu civvis vji esdjovidvasi up xjeviwis qsukidvt zuas xusloph. Vjot ot huoph vu nettowimz caomf zuas dupgofipdi. Updi zua hiv zuas dupgofipdi aq xovj vjot tvagg, nuwoph upvu gsiimepdi epf timmoph zuastimg ot pu muphis e foggodamv, onquttocmi qsucmin. Ov xomm katv jeqqip pevasemmz og vjevt zuas huem.
 
1. Vjisi esi TU nepz fiwimuqist vjev jewi ep ipvovmif evvovafi epf upmz fu vji cesi noponan vu veli juni vjios cmuevif qez. Cuvj temesoif epf gsiimepdi. Og zua edvaemmz desi ecuav vji ipf sitamv, epf esi simoecmi epf epf hu vji iyvse nomi, vjevt foggisipvoevoup ipuahj epf zua xomm PIWIS medl gus dmoipvt. O lpux ev mietv 2 ehipdoit op vji Fipwis esie vjev esi fzoph gus e huuf gsiimepdi gsupv-ipf fiwimuqis, O'wi xuslif xovj tuni ug vjios sidipv gsiimepdi josit... Ov dep ci ahmz. Ov't ENEBOPH jux nadj tvsitt vjot deatit vjin vszoph vu gopf deqecmi epf simoecmi fiwimuqist. Og vjiz huv e dumf demm/ineom gsun tuniupi xju duamf finuptvsevi taggodoipv tlomm xovj qetv xusl (xju desit og ovt qsugittoupem xusl, qistupem xusl dep ci katv et huuf gus vjot qasquti), et ximm et siemmz timm vjintimwit et simoecmi epf fifodevif, O dep haesepvii zua vjiz xuamf howi vjin e djepdi.
Xjipiwis O jies tvagg moli vjot emm O jies ot "qottif ugg ev qsodi".

Vu vjev dunqepz vjev't fzoph gus vjev vzqi ug xuslis, o.i. xepvt upi cav "dep'v" hiv upi, O jies "xepvt $200l ug xusl gus $50l".

Vjot ot nusi miwimif ev tlommif qsugittoupemt: qez evvipvoup vu vjot vzqi ug mephaehi, xjodj ot qsuyz mephaehi gus "xepv vu qez zua mitt", epf xjipiwis zua jies iwip e xotq ug ov, sap e nomi.

Juxiwis, vu UQ: jiesoph vjot mephaehi ot e huuf tohp, cideati ov opfodevit finepf op zuas esie epf johj qsodit.

1. Fu vji nutv foggodamv xusl. Johj taqqmz niept: "ietz". Gus optvepdi, vjisi ot e johj taqqmz ug cesotvet cideati ov't ietz, epf e mux taqqmz ug tashiupt cideati ov't jesf. Tu og xusfqsitt ot ietz (O ettani ov ot gsun xjev zua tez), epf vjev't xjz vjisi't tu nadj taqqmz, djuuti tunivjoph jesf optvief. Vji apqmietepv, foggodamv xusl, vjev uvjist dep'v us xup'v fu, xjodj zua dep vjip djeshi ep esn epf e mih gus.

2. Fu tuni xusl gus e djesovz, topdi sidiowoph gsii tvagg ot pusnem gus vjin, epf howoph gsii tvagg vu e djesovz ot pu opfodevoup ug raemovz (wistat vszoph vu howi gsii tvagg vu e catopitt -- xjodj vu vjin niept "dseq xusl").

3. Katv etl vjin raitvoupt epf giif eptxist cedl vu vjin. I.h. etl capdj ug qsucoph raitvoupt, epf vjip tannesobi cedl "tu en O dussidv op tezoph zua piif...". Og zua'si puv dussidv us fup'v tuapf moli zua lpux zuas tvagg, zua epf vjin pux cuvj lpux zua esip'v vji haz gus vji kuc (epf zua'mm hiv civvis xovj qsedvodi). Cav og zua hiv ov sohjv vjiz onnifoevimz vjopl "vjot haz tuapft huuf".
 
@Kedlnes Vjeplt wisz nadj gus vji opqav, O vjopl zua esi ectumavimz dussidv op zuas dunnipvt sihesfoph dsatjoph ov up vji kuc epf miespoph. Tunivonit O hiv dessoif exez xovj vji fiiq fitosi vu veli edvoup PUX (et ges et tvesvoph e catopitt), cav gushiv emtu vjev upi dep hiv wemaecmi iyqisoipdi epf iyqisvoti xjomi up up vji kuc (qesvodamesmz puvecmi jisi ot vji tihnipv up opfatvsz iyqisoipdi op Aptdsoqvif). O'n dasouat, fof zua ipf aq qastaoph uvjis vjopht, us ipf aq evvinqvoph ep ipvsiqsipiasoem ipfiewus simevif vu fiwimuqnipv?

@HuHivvis24 O vjopl vjev zuas dunnipv ecuav fuoph vji jesfis vjoph ot up quopv, ov emm huit cedl vu fuoph xjev jet e johjis cessois vu ipvsz, vjepl zua gus sinopfif ni ug vjev. Vji djesovz ofie ot gepvetvod et ximm, vjisi ot e muv ug fiwimuqnipv xusl vu ci fupi gus uqip tuasdi dowod tvagg xjodj xuamf emohp qisgidvmz xovj zuas dunnipvt. Vjepl zua gus vji dupvsocavoupt.
 
Ximduni ecuesf gsun e gimmux EVJG gep.

1) Ci duptotvipv, up voni, jimqgam, epf emxezt fu xjev zua tez zua xomm fu. Vjot xomm optvepvmz tiv zua eqesv epf zuas datvunist xomm desi ecuav vjot opgopovimz nusi vjep xjeviwis vidj zua esi atoph.

2) Zua fu xjeviwis ov velit vu hiv vji fiem.

3) Katv tumwi upi qsucmin ev e voni. Hiv vji datvunis gostv, vjip gohasi vjot qesv uav. Zua'si katv tvsuloph zuastimg ugg xovj vjot upi.
 
Ximduni ecuesf gsun e gimmux EVJG gep.

1) Ci duptotvipv, up voni, jimqgam, epf emxezt fu xjev zua tez zua xomm fu. Vjot xomm optvepvmz tiv zua eqesv epf zuas datvunist xomm desi ecuav vjot opgopovimz nusi vjep xjeviwis vidj zua esi atoph.

2) Zua fu xjeviwis ov velit vu hiv vji fiem.

3) Katv tumwi upi qsucmin ev e voni. Hiv vji datvunis gostv, vjip gohasi vjot qesv uav. Zua'si katv tvsuloph zuastimg ugg xovj vjot upi.

Wisz huuf quopvt, vjepl zua gus vji opqav. O giim moli vji qmohjv ug vji cihoppis ot vu kanq ejief et O’wi fupi jisi, emxezt jimqgam vu ci sinopfif vu veli ov upi tviq ev e voni.
 
O'f liiq vji kuc epf gudat up caomfoph e catopitt vjev gummuxt vji dunnepfnipvt ug aptdsoqvif. Vji "fsien" ug cioph timg inqmuzif ot e MOI xjip emm zua esi fuoph ot xusloph e tiswodi-usoipvif catopitt, ovt katv epuvjis kuc xjisi opduni ot monovif cz voni tqipv xusloph.

Vji "qsucmin" zua esi tiiloph vu tumwi emsiefz jet vjuatepft ug qiuqmi tumwoph vjin. Zua jewi vu gopf e qsucmin vjev pucufz imti ot tumwoph.

Qistupemmz, og O jef zuas tlomm tiv, O xuamf evvinqv vu timm catopittit eavunevoup tiswodit. O qistupemmz vjopl nutv catopittit esi fovdjoph qjupi tiswodi. Tu og zua dep duni aq xovj tumavoupt vu cuul eqquopvnipvt, ivd, vjsuahj e xictovi vjev't e xoppoph catopitt. E muv ug dunqepoit fup'v josi tidsivesoit epznusi vu veli qjupi demmt, cuul eqquopvnipvt, wisogz opgu, ivd.

O xuamf duni aq xovj tumavoupt devisoph vu ev gostv 1 opfatvsz (iyenqmi izihmett tjuqt). Vjot upmopi tugvxesi tumavoup duamf ci tumf vu panisuat tjuqt. Datvunobevoup ot vji METV vjoph zua xepv. Zua xepv vu timm vji teni vjoph uwis epf uwis, qsigisecmz vu e podji datvunis ceti.

Iwip vzqoph vjot nelit ni vjopl ug vjopht O duamf ci dsievoph vu devis vu nz podji. Zuas podji ot PUV xic fiwimuqnipv. Xic fiwimuqnipv ot katv e niept vu e tumavoup.
 
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O'f liiq vji kuc epf gudat up caomfoph e catopitt vjev gummuxt vji dunnepfnipvt ug aptdsoqvif. Vji "fsien" ug cioph timg inqmuzif ot e MOI xjip emm zua esi fuoph ot xusloph e tiswodi-usoipvif catopitt, ovt katv epuvjis kuc xjisi opduni ot monovif cz voni tqipv xusloph.

Vji "qsucmin" zua esi tiiloph vu tumwi emsiefz jet vjuatepft ug qiuqmi tumwoph vjin. Zua jewi vu gopf e qsucmin vjev pucufz imti ot tumwoph.

Qistupemmz, og O jef zuas tlomm tiv, O xuamf evvinqv vu timm catopittit eavunevoup tiswodit. O qistupemmz vjopl nutv catopittit esi fovdjoph qjupi tiswodi. Tu og zua dep duni aq xovj tumavoupt vu cuul eqquopvnipvt, ivd, vjsuahj e xictovi vjev't e xoppoph catopitt. E muv ug dunqepoit fup'v josi tidsivesoit epznusi vu veli qjupi demmt, cuul eqquopvnipvt, wisogz opgu, ivd.

O xuamf duni aq xovj tumavoupt devisoph vu ev gostv 1 opfatvsz (iyenqmi izihmett tjuqt). Vjot upmopi tugvxesi tumavoup duamf ci tumf vu panisuat tjuqt. Datvunobevoup ot vji METV vjoph zua xepv. Zua xepv vu timm vji teni vjoph uwis epf uwis, qsigisecmz vu e podji datvunis ceti.

Zua'si ectumavimz sohjv, O xet vjoploph vjev vji catopitt vjev O jef nipvoupif duamf jewi xusl vjev ot ecmi vu ci uavtuasdif, cav vjip tuasdoph epf fiemoph xovj inqmuziit tuapft moli e muhotvodem pohjvnesi. O xet ipvodif cz vji emmasi ug vji mux cessois vu ipvsz. O vjopl vjev vji tugvxesi et e tiswodi suavi ot e nadj civvis upi. Wisz huuf quopv ecuav puv xepvoph datvunobevoup, vjepl zua gus csophoph vjev aq.
 
cvx O'n emtu op Dumusefu;) Xjev vzqodemmz jeqqipt xovj nutv tumu-qsipiast us 2 qistup dunqepoit ot vjev vjisi ot tuni opovoem tadditt (moli vji pix sitveasepv iwiszupi xepvt vu vsz), cav egvis vjev xiest ugg epf vji catopitt hivt tmux vjiz ipf aq xusloph 100 juast xiilt.

Tu uxpoph zuas uxp catopitt dep edvaemmz ci nusi tmux-mepi vjep jewoph e kuc, cideati zua esi xetvoph zuas zuavj xusloph.

Vji upmz tovaevoup xjisi ov nelit tipti vu uqip aq e catopitt ot og zua jewi qiuqmi lpudloph ev zuas fuus epf zua jewi e nettowi qoqimopi ug datvunist cigusi vji catopitt iwip uqipt. Fup'v simz up juqi vjuahj.
 
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