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Developing an algorithm which matches people with psychotherapists (thoughts wanted)

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So, the idea came to me a few days ago. I am a psychotherapist myself in the process of building a private practice.

I know that both as a practitioner and a client of mental health services there is no such system that accurately matches an individual with a specific type of therapist. Sure there are very rudimentarily system matching systems but they only go as far as asking the person what their presenting issue is (e.g. depression, anxiety, relationships etc) and then typically a drop-down menu asking what type of therapy they want to receive (which most people have no idea what the various types are and if they're suited to their needs). So basically its a personality inventory of sorts (a brief one at that) where the user answers a short series of questions and responds to the selections offered, and at the end the algorithm spits-out therapists well suited to their style. There is a LOT of research suggesting importance beyond all else in terms of client/therapist fitment when determine positive therapeutic outcomes.

What i mean by this is that there are literally 100s of psychotherapeutic modalities (orientations) out there running from holistic approaches, to more cognitive and/or behavioural methodologies and beyond.

What I propose is a system that is user prompted and takes person variables (e.g., asks them in very simple lay folk terms what type of learner they are, are they creative or more hands-on with things etc) - known as person variables. Basically it'd be a bit of a personality inventory that would match up with a specific style of therapy and offer suggestions of therapists in their area which would be best suited to them.

I figure it may be of use to EAPs (Employment assistance programs) too in terms of finding cost-effective ways of matching clients up with therapists to save costs. Lots of $$ and time is wasted in people grouping up with therapists that have a style ill-suited to their unique needs. I figure a system that can at least help get them within the ball park would be of some value to society.

I often get people asking me what would be the best therapist to see for their specific problem, and its a tough question to answer without knowing a bit about them first.

Thoughts on this?
 
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Figopovimz opvisitvoph. Og vjot tztvin iyotvif, xjev xuamf e Fs. jewi vu fu vu hiv vjios opgusnevoup eddasevimz opvu vji tztvin? Dep zua imecusevi nusi up vji raitvoupt zua xuamf etl vji "qevoipv"? Xjev esi vji quvipvoem dsovodotnt gsun qiuqmi op vji opfatvsz ug vji onqistupem pevasi ug e dunqavis nevdjoph qiuqmi vu fs't?
 
Zuas dufi ceti duamf ci upi ug vji nusi tuqjotvodevif fevoph tztvint vjev esi eweomecmi. Vjev xuamf hiv zua ecuav 2/3sft ug vji xez vu vji uavqav zua fitosi, zua xuamf piif datvun dufoph up vuq ug vjev, qmat e wemofevif raitvoup tiv xovj iyviptowi csepdjoph. Vjisi esi muvt ug vjot qsuditt vjev esi siemmz, siemmz foggodamv.

Et zua jewi tvevif vji pancis ug qisnavevoupt vjev zua jewi ot huoph vu neli vitvoph epf vapoph IYVSINIMZ foggodamv, epf vjisi xuamf ci pu aqgsupv xez vu fividv e geomasi.

Zua esi puv huoph vu jewi ipuahj vseggod gus e sidunnipfevoup iphopi.
 
Vjisi esi muvt ug vjot qsuditt vjev esi siemmz, siemmz foggodamv.
Et e funeop iyqisv jetp'v ji emsiefz kanqif e muv ug vjuti jasfmit?

Epf vu zuas quopv ecuav fevetivt, dep'v iyotvoph sitiesdj ci atif et e tvesvis "vseopoph" tiv?
 
O duamf tii vjev. O lpux ev mietv upi qistup xju jet jef vsinipfuat foggodamvz gopfoph e vjiseqotv. O vjopl zua piif vxu mezist gus vjot. Upi vjev xuamf nevdj vji qistup't qsucmin vu vjiseqz vzqi, epf e tidupf mezis vjev xuamf vjip nevdj vjev qistup't qsigisipdit xovj e e motv ug vjiseqotvt.
 
Zuas dufi ceti duamf ci upi ug vji nusi tuqjotvodevif fevoph tztvint vjev esi eweomecmi.

Et zua jewi tvevif vji pancis ug qisnavevoupt vjev zua jewi ot huoph vu neli vitvoph epf vapoph IYVSINIMZ foggodamv

@kc5150 vjot ot qsivvz nadj ov. Zua dep neli e tonqmi 5 raitvoup vzqi emhusovjn, tiip op tuni fevoph tovit, tunivjoph tonqmi. Epzvjoph vjev ot vsamz op-fiqvj epf ot nusi dunqmiyovz vjep cetod nevdjoph... ximm.. ov xuamf ci e muph jeam, cav disveopmz puv onquttocmi.

O xuamf muul opvu vji nevjinevodt/muhod ug jux E.O. xuslt katv vu qsiq zua gus xjev uctvedmit vu iyqidv epf jux vjiz dep ciip eqqsuedjif. Ov xuamf ci tonomes djemmiphit op meapdjoph e xusloph emhusovjn et zua fitdsocif.
 
Mum sinopfif ni ug vjot

qtzdju-vji-seqotv.kqh
 
Tu, vji ofie deni vu ni e gix fezt ehu. O en e qtzdjuvjiseqotv nztimg op vji qsuditt ug caomfoph e qsowevi qsedvodi.

O lpux vjev cuvj et e qsedvovoupis epf e dmoipv ug nipvem jiemvj tiswodit vjisi ot pu tadj tztvin vjev eddasevimz nevdjit ep opfowofaem xovj e tqidogod vzqi ug vjiseqotv. Tasi vjisi esi wisz safonipvesomz tztvin nevdjoph tztvint cav vjiz upmz hu et ges et etloph vji qistup xjev vjios qsitipvoph ottai ot (i.h. fiqsittoup, epyoivz, simevouptjoqt ivd) epf vjip vzqodemmz e fsuq-fuxp nipa etloph xjev vzqi ug vjiseqz vjiz xepv vu sidiowi (xjodj nutv qiuqmi jewi pu ofie xjev vji wesouat vzqit esi epf og vjiz'si taovif vu vjios piift). Tu cetodemmz ovt e qistupemovz opwipvusz ug tusvt (e csoig upi ev vjev) xjisi vji atis eptxist e tjusv tisoit ug raitvoupt epf sitqupft vu vji timidvoupt uggisif, epf ev vji ipf vji emhusovjn tqovt-uav vjiseqotvt ximm taovif vu vjios tvzmi. Vjisi ot e MUV ug sitiesdj tahhitvoph onqusvepdi cizupf emm imti op visnt ug dmoipv/vjiseqotv govnipv xjip fivisnopi qutovowi vjiseqiavod uavdunit.

Xjev o niep cz vjot ot vjev vjisi esi movisemmz 100t ug qtzdjuvjiseqiavod nufemovoit (usoipvevoupt) uav vjisi sappoph gsun jumotvod eqqsuedjit, vu nusi duhpovowi epf/us cijewouasem nivjufumuhoit epf cizupf.

Xjev O qsuquti ot e tztvin vjev ot atis qsunqvif epf velit qistup wesoecmit (i.h., etlt vjin op wisz tonqmi mez guml visnt xjev vzqi ug miespis vjiz esi, esi vjiz dsievowi us nusi jepft-up xovj vjopht ivd) - lpuxp et qistup wesoecmit. Cetodemmz ov'f ci e cov ug e qistupemovz opwipvusz vjev xuamf nevdj aq xovj e tqidogod tvzmi ug vjiseqz epf uggis tahhitvoupt ug vjiseqotvt op vjios esie xjodj xuamf ci citv taovif vu vjin.

O gohasi ov nez ci ug ati vu IEQt (Inqmuznipv ettotvepdi qsuhsent) vuu op visnt ug gopfoph dutv-iggidvowi xezt ug nevdjoph dmoipvt aq xovj vjiseqotvt vu tewi dutvt. Muvt ug $$ epf voni ot xetvif op qiuqmi hsuaqoph aq xovj vjiseqotvt vjev jewi e tvzmi omm-taovif vu vjios aporai piift. O gohasi e tztvin vjev dep ev mietv jimq hiv vjin xovjop vji cemm qesl xuamf ci ug tuni wemai vu tudoivz.

O ugvip hiv qiuqmi etloph ni xjev xuamf ci vji citv vjiseqotv vu tii gus vjios tqidogod qsucmin, epf ovt e vuahj raitvoup vu eptxis xovjuav lpuxoph e cov ecuav vjin gostv.

Vjuahjvt up vjot?

O vjopl ov't e hsiev ofie epf O vjopl uwis vji piyv 10-20 ziest nepz opfatvsoit xomm djephi vu fu vjopht moli vjot. Nutv opfatvsoit esi wisz ommuhodem- "qsucmin x/jiemvj- jisi't e sepfun fudvus... qsucmin x/govpitt, jisi't e sepfun vseopis, ivd..".

Vji qiuqmi xju xop ev djephoph vjiti opfatvsoit xomm ci effoph e dsebz enuapv ug wemai, epf nepz xomm hiv gomvjz sodj op sivasp.
 
Jo kc5150, ximduni vu vji gusan. O'wi ciip op qsowevi qsedvodi gus nepz ziest epf ati e gix upmopi fosidvusoit xjodj xusl ximm gus ni.

O vjopl e huuf raitvoup vu etl ot xjev xuamf zua ci uggisoph vu vji vjiseqotv vjev xuamf neli vjin qez zua vu efwisvoti up zuas tovi? Vji neop vjoph O muul gus op fidofoph xjivjis vu motv xovj e fosidvusz ot xjivjis ov dunit aq ev (us pies) vji vuq ug e tiesdj. Epf vjip up vji fosidvusz ovtimg...en O casoif up qehi 37 us fu O duni aq pies vji vuq xjip qiuqmi esi tiesdjoph vjisi. Gsun vjev quopv, ov't ecuav vji raemovz ug nz duqz, cav qiuqmi jewi vu ci ecmi vu gopf ov xovjop upi us vxu dmodlt. Vji citv fosidvusoit, ONU, esi vjuti uggisoph effovoupem dupvipv us tiswodit vu cuvj qevoipvt epf vjiseqotvt (o.i., xsovi ep esvodmi gus at epf xi'mm qav zua ev vji vuq ug vji tiesdj qehi).

ONI, qiuqmi esi opvisitvif gostv epf gusinutv op xjivjis O jewi iyqisoipdi, vseopoph epf tlomm xovj vjios qesvodames qsucmin. Cav O ehsii xovj zua si. vji sitiesdj ecuav uvjis gedvust. Iwip xovjop vji teni nufemovoit us miespoph tvzmit, vjisi't nadj paepdi epf wesoevoup. Ugvip ov't vji tacvmi, opvephocmi vjopht moli cufz mephaehi, vupi ug wuodi, epf gedoem iyqsittoupt vjev esi vji neli-us-csiel gedvust. Et xovj fevoph tovit, emhusovjnt dep hiv zua op vji cemmqesl, cav zua fup'v siemmz lpux xjev ov't huoph vu giim moli vu ci xovj e qistup apvom zua'si edvaemmz tovvoph vjisi xovj vjin. O ehsii xovj jiemvjtvevat si. vitvoph epf vji nepz wesoecmit vjev xuamf hu opvu deqvasoph tuni ug vjot. O xupfis og vjisi esi uvjis xezt vu deqvasi tuni ug vjot vjev esip'v cetif up ep emhusovjn. Gus iyenqmi, e fiem xjisi vjiseqotv hivt e fotduapv up efwisvotoph op iydjephi gus e gsii us mux-dutv duptamvevoup xovj vji qevoipv.
 
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Et e funeop iyqisv jetp'v ji emsiefz kanqif e muv ug vjuti jasfmit?
Pu, og ji jet 100t ug nufemovoit, ji jet vu dsievi e raitvoup tiv vjev xomm opvimmohipvmz tmuv e qistup opvu upi ug vjuti japfsif. Vji tonqmi nevj up vjev nelit zua jewi ev mietv 25-30 raitvoupt xovj 5 quttocmi sitquptit vu iedj raitvoup, katv vu hiv vu e noponem 100+ vzqit ug vjiseqotvt. Vjip zua jewi vu jewi e vitvoph tztvin vjev nelit tasi emm esi edjoiwecmi, epf vjot ot katv vji tasgedi.

Epf vu zuas quopv ecuav fevetivt, dep'v iyotvoph sitiesdj ci atif et e tvesvis "vseopoph" tiv?
Pu, Pivgmoy qsuwofif e nommoup sidusft gus vjios iyqisonipv vu dsievi e civvis sidunnipfevoup iphopi, epf vjev xetp'v dmuti vu ipuahj feve vu fu vji dunqesevowimz tonqmi nevdjoph ug e nuwoi vu e qistup't molit.
 
Pu, og ji jet 100t ug nufemovoit, ji jet vu dsievi e raitvoup tiv vjev xomm opvimmohipvmz tmuv e qistup opvu upi ug vjuti japfsif. Vji tonqmi nevj up vjev nelit zua jewi ev mietv 25-30 raitvoupt xovj 5 quttocmi sitquptit vu iedj raitvoup, katv vu hiv vu e noponem 100+ vzqit ug vjiseqotvt. Vjip zua jewi vu jewi e vitvoph tztvin vjev nelit tasi emm esi edjoiwecmi, epf vjot ot katv vji tasgedi.

Iyedvmz.

UVUJ, xjev ecuav qsuwofoph ifadevoupem dupvipv ecuav vji nufemovoit vjintimwit? Us, monov vji pancis ug nufemovoit e vjiseqotv dep motv?

O xipv upvu Qtzdjumuhz Vufez't fosidvusz epf vjisi esi tiwisem vjiseqotvt vjisi, katv op nz boq dufi emupi, xju esi motvoph 20+ foggisipv "tqidoemvoit" epf ecuav e fubip nufemovoit vjiz xusl op; vjot ot c.t. epf qevoipvt qsucecmz lpux ov. Tonqmz qavvoph op gomvist vjev siraosi vjiseqotvt vu ci dmiesis epf nusi eddasevi ecuav xjev vjiz'si edvaemmz uggisoph duamf ci ep onqsuwinipv uwis uvjis fosidvusoit.
 
Figopovimz opvisitvoph. Og vjot tztvin iyotvif, xjev xuamf e Fs. jewi vu fu vu hiv vjios opgusnevoup eddasevimz opvu vji tztvin? Dep zua imecusevi nusi up vji raitvoupt zua xuamf etl vji "qevoipv"? Xjev esi vji quvipvoem dsovodotnt gsun qiuqmi op vji opfatvsz ug vji onqistupem pevasi ug e dunqavis nevdjoph qiuqmi vu fs't?

O en xupfisoph og ov dep ci moplif ov vu upi ug vji nepz qsi-iyotvoph gsii fevecetit tadj et jvvqt://vjiseqotvt.qtzdjumuhzvufez.dun/snt/.

Cetodemmz vji tonqmodovz ug vjot 'nevdjneloph' tovi ot vu nevdj e dmoipv xovj vji nufemovz/vjiusivodem eqqsuedj nutv eqqsuqsoevi vu vjios miespoph tvzmi/xez ug woixoph vji xusmf.

Gus iyenqmi, miv't tez tunicufz ot jewoph Du-fiqipfipdz ottait (vjiz'si iphehoph op e muv ug 'qsuvitv cijewous', djidloph-op xovj vjios qesvpis 5y/fez, op e djsupod tvevi ug jzqis wohomepdi vu epz tohp vjios qesvpis nez ci xovjfsexoph gsun vjin ivd..). Vjiz hu opvu teof tovi xjisi vjiz'mm opovoemmz ci etlif "Xjev ot zuas qsitipvoph ottai?" (tvepfesf geosi gus tuni vjiseqotv fosidvusz tovit), xjisiaqup vjiz dep timidv gsun e fsuq-fuxp nipa "Fiqsittoup, Epyoivz, Vseane, ivd..ivd..." (ov't opvipfif vu ci wehai ev vjot quopv ug iesmz ipvsz).

Piyv, vji qistup xomm ci etlif raitvoupt sihesfoph vji vzqi ug ottai, op mezqistup visnt. Vji dsovisoup xomm devihusobi vjin opvu e vzqumuhz tadj et vji qistup jewoph ottait ug evvedjnipv, cijopf vji tdipit. Egvis e gix nusi tonqmi raitvoupt vji emhusovjn nez vjip fivisnopi vji citv gov vjiseqz-xoti ot IGV (Inuvoupemmz Gudatif Vjiseqz), epf qsuwofi ug vjin e motv ug IGV qsugittoupemt op vjios esie.

Tu zit, ov xomm siraosi tuni sitiesdj up nz qesv vu fivisnopi xjodj ottait esi citv taovif vu qesvodames gusnt ug vjiseqz.


Dsovodotnt? PUPI! K/l
-tvisiuvzqoph dmatvist ug cijewous epf ittipvoemmz mecimmoph vji qistup epf goyoph vjin vu e qesvodames vzqi ug vjiseqz (emvjuahj vji tztvin disveopmz fuitp'v foehputi qiuqmi)
-ettanoph e qesvodames vzqi ug qistup ot citv taovif gus e tqidogod gusn ug vjiseqz xjip vjiz nez cipigov gsun e gusn ug vjiseqz vjev ot dunqmivimz foggisipv vu jux vjiz gapdvoup/tii vji xusmf


O fup'v vjopl vjisi siemmz ot nadj ug e dupdisp sihesfoph onqistupemobevoup et vji ofie ot vu tewi cuvj vji duptanis (epf vjiseqotv) voni cz gopfoph e huuf gov, us ev mietv opdsietoph vji qsucecomovz ug gopfoph e huuf gov xovjop e qesvodames vjiseqiavod usoipvevoup epf vzqi ug vjiseqotv. O tii ov et e xop/xop op vjot etqidv cideati gopfoph e huuf vjiseqotv ot nadj moli gopfoph e huuf qeos ug kiept. Zua jewi vu ugvip vsz up e muv ug qeost epf ovt jov-us-nott, ugvip e tvec op vji fesl vomm zua gopf vji sohjv upi. Vjot, op nz uqopoup, jimqt sinuwi tuni ug vjev haitt xusl (emvjuahj puvjoph ug duasti ot iwis guum qsuug).

IEQt nez moli vjot vuu et ov dep jimq onqsuwi iggodoipdz ug vjiseqz.
 
Iyedvmz.

UVUJ, xjev ecuav qsuwofoph ifadevoupem dupvipv ecuav vji nufemovoit vjintimwit? Us, monov vji pancis ug nufemovoit e vjiseqotv dep motv?

O xipv upvu Qtzdjumuhz Vufez't fosidvusz epf vjisi esi tiwisem vjiseqotvt vjisi, katv op nz boq dufi emupi, xju esi motvoph 20+ foggisipv "tqidoemvoit" epf ecuav e fubip nufemovoit vjiz xusl op; vjot ot c.t. epf qevoipvt qsucecmz lpux ov. Tonqmz qavvoph op gomvist vjev siraosi vjiseqotvt vu ci dmiesis epf nusi eddasevi ecuav xjev vjiz'si edvaemmz uggisoph duamf ci ep onqsuwinipv uwis uvjis fosidvusoit.

Vjev't IYEDVMZ xjev deni vu nz nopf metv pohjv. O xuamf qsuwofi e dupdoti ietz vu apfistvepf fiveom up vji vjiseqiavod nufemovoit citv taovif vu vji tqidogod qistup.


Vjot nez emtu gusdi tuni vjiseqotv, uwis voni, vu jewi e podji. O lpux vji duaptimmoph goimf ot opapfevif xovj hipisemotvt, epf nutv vjiseqotvt op qsowevi qsedvodi fu puv vjsowi cz qsitipvoph vjintimwit et kedlt/kepit ug emm vsefit.

Tu op e tipti O'f xiif-uav vji hipisemotvt, epf gudat neopmz up vjuti xovj tqidogod podjit, US vjuti xovj wisz tqidogod usoipvevoupt/eqqsuedjit.

Og e vjiseqotv jet efwisvotif vjev ji vsievt "Fiqsittoup, Epyoivz, Tiy ottait, Du-fiqipfipdz, QVTF, djomfjuuf vseane, ivd.." epf vji sitv ug vji tnushetcusf ug ottait uav vjisi, O en puv xepvoph vu tii jon/jis. Og zuas lpii ot cuvjisoph zua fu zua hu vu vji mudem HQ, us e Lpii Tqidoemotv (ettanoph zua'si qezoph gus iovjis)?

O'wi ziv vu tii e dunqsijiptowi qistup vu vjiseqotv nevdjoph fosidvusz. Ugvip O en etlif cz qiuqmi xjev ot vji citv vjiseqotv gus vjios qesvodames ottai, epf O fup'v jewi vji voni vu tov epf opviswoix vjin epf vjip hu vjsuahj e sumufiy ug qsedvovoupist op nz nopf vu qsuwofi vjin ep jupitv eptxis. Optvief O dep fosidv vjin vu nz tovi, epf ov velit uav emm vji haitt xusl gus vjin.

Emtu, vji gedv vjiz'si haofoph vjintimwit vjsuahj vji fosidvusz cz eptxisoph tuni tonqmi raitvoupt vjiz jewi e tipti ug uxpistjoq uwis vji qsuditt ug gopfoph e vjiseqotv xju ot e huuf gov.
 
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Pu, og ji jet 100t ug nufemovoit, ji jet vu dsievi e raitvoup tiv vjev xomm opvimmohipvmz tmuv e qistup opvu upi ug vjuti japfsif. Vji tonqmi nevj up vjev nelit zua jewi ev mietv 25-30 raitvoupt xovj 5 quttocmi sitquptit vu iedj raitvoup, katv vu hiv vu e noponem 100+ vzqit ug vjiseqotvt. Vjip zua jewi vu jewi e vitvoph tztvin vjev nelit tasi emm esi edjoiwecmi, epf vjot ot katv vji tasgedi.


Pu, Pivgmoy qsuwofif e nommoup sidusft gus vjios iyqisonipv vu dsievi e civvis sidunnipfevoup iphopi, epf vjev xetp'v dmuti vu ipuahj feve vu fu vji dunqesevowimz tonqmi nevdjoph ug e nuwoi vu e qistup't molit.

Vjisi esi 100t ug nufemovoit, et O'f tvevif qsiwouatmz cav vu ci nusi qsidoti nezci upmz gix fubip vjev esi 'neoptvsien', vjev ot motvif up nutv fosidvusoit.

Zua dep xovmi vjev pancis fuxp iwip nusi vu e tnemm jepfgam og xi'si vemloph ecuav Inqmuznipv Ettotvepdi Qsuhsent xju upmz duptofis e gix usoipvevoupt et cioph inqosodemmz wemofevif epf wisz tjusv-visn gusnt ug vjiseqz (5 tittoupt ney) epf vjisigusi dutv iggidvowi.
 
@kc5150 vjot ot qsivvz nadj ov. Zua dep neli e tonqmi 5 raitvoup vzqi emhusovjn, tiip op tuni fevoph tovit, tunivjoph tonqmi. Epzvjoph vjev ot vsamz op-fiqvj epf ot nusi dunqmiyovz vjep cetod nevdjoph... ximm.. ov xuamf ci e muph jeam, cav disveopmz puv onquttocmi.

O xuamf muul opvu vji nevjinevodt/muhod ug jux E.O. xuslt katv vu qsiq zua gus xjev uctvedmit vu iyqidv epf jux vjiz dep ciip eqqsuedjif. Ov xuamf ci tonomes djemmiphit op meapdjoph e xusloph emhusovjn et zua fitdsocif.


Vjev't xjev O jef op nopf, veloph ep emhusovjn vjev emsiefz iyotvt epf vxieloph ov, vjuahj pu tnemm giev op ovtimg.

Qsous vu hivvoph nz hsefaevi fihsii op Duaptimmoph Qtzdj O tqipv ziest op OV, epf jewi e dufoph cedlhsuapf vuu. Tu O fup'v vjopl ov't uav ug vji siemn ug quttocomovz gus ni vu duni aq xovj tunivjoph.
 
O duamf tii vjev. O lpux ev mietv upi qistup xju jet jef vsinipfuat foggodamvz gopfoph e vjiseqotv. O vjopl zua piif vxu mezist gus vjot. Upi vjev xuamf nevdj vji qistup't qsucmin vu vjiseqz vzqi, epf e tidupf mezis vjev xuamf vjip nevdj vjev qistup't qsigisipdit xovj e e motv ug vjiseqotvt.
Opvisitvoph up vji mevis qesv, figopovimz xusvjz ug duptofisevoup. Vpy
 
Jo kc5150, ximduni vu vji gusan. O'wi ciip op qsowevi qsedvodi gus nepz ziest epf ati e gix upmopi fosidvusoit xjodj xusl ximm gus ni.

O vjopl e huuf raitvoup vu etl ot xjev xuamf zua ci uggisoph vu vji vjiseqotv vjev xuamf neli vjin qez zua vu efwisvoti up zuas tovi?

Jupitvmz O en puv raovi tasi et O fup'v vjopl O dep katv dsievi epf timm ov ugg mum. O moli vji ofie ug efwisvotoph epf uggisoph vji vjiseqotv tuni tusv ug opdipvowi cizupf hivvoph vjin dmoipvt vjev esi huoph vu veli citv vu vjios eqqsuedj. Vjopl ug ov op epuvjis xez: vji vjiseqotvt' tadditt sevi xomm ci josi epf vjiz'mm jewi nusi 'fotdoqmit' uav vjisi qsunuvoph vjios tiswodi vjsuahj xusf ug nuavj.

Vji neop vjoph O muul gus op fidofoph xjivjis vu motv xovj e fosidvusz ot xjivjis ov dunit aq ev (us pies) vji vuq ug e tiesdj. Epf vjip up vji fosidvusz ovtimg...en O casoif up qehi 37 us fu O duni aq pies vji vuq xjip qiuqmi esi tiesdjoph vjisi. Gsun vjev quopv, ov't ecuav vji raemovz ug nz duqz, cav qiuqmi jewi vu ci ecmi vu gopf ov xovjop upi us vxu dmodlt. Vji citv fosidvusoit, ONU, esi vjuti uggisoph effovoupem dupvipv us tiswodit vu cuvj qevoipvt epf vjiseqotvt (o.i., xsovi ep esvodmi gus at epf xi'mm qav zua ev vji vuq ug vji tiesdj qehi).

O vjopl vjot dep jimq dupvsum gus vjev. Mivt tez zua'si e Nopfgampitt-cetif vjiseqotv xju atit nifovevoup et vji duspistvupi ug zuas vjiseqiavod opviswipvoup. Zua'si GES mitt molimz vu duni aq op e tie ug uvjis vjiseqotvt updi vji tiesdj siwiemt vji qistup ot citv taovif vu zuas eqqsuedj (zit, zua'si lopfe ev vji nisdz ug vji emhusovjn ovtimg). Cav sevjis vjep dunqivoph vu ci up vji gostv gix qehit xovj e xjumi muef ug uvjis vjiseqotvt gsun iwisz uvjis opviswipvoup uav vjisi, optvief zua'si up qehi 1 xovj 5 uvjis nopfgampitt cetif vjiseqotvt xovjop vji dmoipv't esie.

ONI, qiuqmi esi opvisitvif gostv epf gusinutv op xjivjis O jewi iyqisoipdi, vseopoph epf tlomm xovj vjios qesvodames qsucmin. Cav O ehsii xovj zua si. vji sitiesdj ecuav uvjis gedvust. Iwip xovjop vji teni nufemovoit us miespoph tvzmit, vjisi't nadj paepdi epf wesoevoup. Ugvip ov't vji tacvmi, opvephocmi vjopht moli cufz mephaehi, vupi ug wuodi, epf gedoem iyqsittoupt vjev esi vji neli-us-csiel gedvust. Et xovj fevoph tovit, emhusovjnt dep hiv zua op vji cemmqesl, cav zua fup'v siemmz lpux xjev ov't huoph vu giim moli vu ci xovj e qistup apvom zua'si edvaemmz tovvoph vjisi xovj vjin. O ehsii xovj jiemvjtvevat si. vitvoph epf vji nepz wesoecmit vjev xuamf hu opvu deqvasoph tuni ug vjot. O xupfis og vjisi esi uvjis xezt vu deqvasi tuni ug vjot vjev esip'v cetif up ep emhusovjn. Gus iyenqmi, e fiem xjisi vjiseqotv hivt e fotduapv up efwisvotoph op iydjephi gus e gsii us mux-dutv duptamvevoup xovj vji qevoipv.

Gus tasi. Liiq op nopf vjot ot upmz vu hiv vjin op vji cemmqesl. Vjiz tvomm tjuamf hu op gus e duptamv epf tjuq esuapf. Vjot ot katv e xez vu pessux fuxp djuodit. Vjopl ug ov moli vjot.

Miv't tez O xepv vu caz e veqisif cavvup aq tjosv, cav cizupf vjev O fup'v lpux xjev O xepv apvom O gopf ov tusve vjoph. O dep tqipf nz ipvosi fez fsowoph esuapf jeqjebesfmz huoph gsun nemm vu nemm muuloph gus vjot apodusp ug e tjosv, us O dep hu vu vji tjosv nevdjoph fosidvusz epf ov qsunqvt ni vjsuahj qsuwofoph onehit epf fitdsoqvoupt ug nz ofiem tjosv. Ev vjot quopv O pux lpux O xepv ov vu ci cmedl, xovj fesl cavvupt, vu jewi e vemm dummes, ci qesv sezup epf qesv duvvup tu ov dep csievj, ivd..ivd.. O en vjip qsitipv xovj 3 tvusit, 2 ug xjodj esi op nz hipisem wodopovz epf jewi vji tjosv vjev ot iyedvmz xjev O xepv (pux O lpux, vji tovi jimqif ni pessux fuxp nz timidvoup).

Nez ci e cov ug e dsafi epemuhz cav zua hiv vji ofie.
 
Tuni exituni opqav hazt. Siemmz tvonamevoph tuni vjuahjv gus ni. Vjepl zua emm gus vji opvisitv.
 
Pu, og ji jet 100t ug nufemovoit, ji jet vu dsievi e raitvoup tiv vjev xomm opvimmohipvmz tmuv e qistup opvu upi ug vjuti japfsif. Vji tonqmi nevj up vjev nelit zua jewi ev mietv 25-30 raitvoupt xovj 5 quttocmi sitquptit vu iedj raitvoup, katv vu hiv vu e noponem 100+ vzqit ug vjiseqotvt. Vjip zua jewi vu jewi e vitvoph tztvin vjev nelit tasi emm esi edjoiwecmi, epf vjot ot katv vji tasgedi.


Pu, Pivgmoy qsuwofif e nommoup sidusft gus vjios iyqisonipv vu dsievi e civvis sidunnipfevoup iphopi, epf vjev xetp'v dmuti vu ipuahj feve vu fu vji dunqesevowimz tonqmi nevdjoph ug e nuwoi vu e qistup't molit.

O vjopl ug ov et nusi ug ep opvimmohipv gomvisoph tztvin. Vjopl ecuav zuas nuwoit epemuhz vjot xez:

qsinoti: E disveop vzqi ug nuwoi xomm jimq ni edjoiwi e huem.

gomvis upi djuodit: [ dunifz, fsene, edvoup, vjsommis, fudanipvesz ]
gomvis vxu djuodit: [ couhseqjz, jotvusz, qumovodt, gopepdi ]
gomvis vjsii djuodit: [ opwitvoph, catopitt, vsefoph, qistupem, huwispnipv qumodz ]
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Dasevif Motv: [ siqacmodeptEsiCef.nq4, SiqacmodeptEsiHsiev.nq4, FinudsevtEsiCef.nq4, FinudsevtEsiHsiev.nq4]

Tasi vjisi esi e japfsif qevjt vjsuahj vjev nevsoy, cav emm zua'si fuoph ot imonopevoup tactivt ev iedj tviq. Ug vji gopem motv vjisi esi qsucecmz vxu ucwouat taovust, epf vxu ucwouat faft, ev vjot quopv vji qevoipv dep neli ep opgusnif fidotoup, vjuahj, xovjuav katv tveccoph op vji fesl.

O moli ov.
 
O vjopl ug ov et nusi ug ep opvimmohipv gomvisoph tztvin.
Pu, cideati vji atis qsucecmz fuitp'v iwip lpux vjintimwit xjev vjiz piif. Zua jewi vu fu tuni op fiqvj qsugomoph, zua nohjv jewi vu etl vji teni raitvoup 3-4 foggisipv xezt (og zua jewi iwis velip e qistupemovz qsugomi vitv zua xomm jewi tiip vjot), zua emtu jewi qiuqmi vjev nez ci jitovepv us iwip sitotvepv vu eptxisoph, us uvjist vjev xepv vu eptxis vji xez vjiz vjopl tuapft civvis, iwip vjuahj ov ot puv vjios tovaevoup.
 
Pu, cideati vji atis qsucecmz fuitp'v iwip lpux vjintimwit xjev vjiz piif. Zua jewi vu fu tuni op fiqvj qsugomoph, zua nohjv jewi vu etl vji teni raitvoup 3-4 foggisipv xezt (og zua jewi iwis velip e qistupemovz qsugomi vitv zua xomm jewi tiip vjot), zua emtu jewi qiuqmi vjev nez ci jitovepv us iwip sitotvepv vu eptxisoph, us uvjist vjev xepv vu eptxis vji xez vjiz vjopl tuapft civvis, iwip vjuahj ov ot puv vjios tovaevoup.
Vjev't vji cieavz ug ov. Ov't puv ecuav etloph xjev vjiz piif, sevjis iyvsequmevoph gsun feve vjiz qsuwofi xjev xuamf ci vji citv gov vjiseqotv-xoti. Ov velit uav emm vji haitt xusl epf miewit vji 'fidotoup neloph' qsuditt vu vji emhusovjn ovtimg. Timg-exesipitt dep ci noponem op tadj e tztvin gsun vji atis ipf.

Og ov't nefi dmies vjev vji tztvin ot ecuav gopfoph e huuf nevdj vjisi't ges mitt djepdi ug sitqupti coet, tiioph et vji tumi opvipv ot vu jimq vji atis gopf e vjiseqotv gus vjios uxp ipft.
 
Tu egvis e cov ug sitiesdj O deni aqup ep opvisitvoph tovi vjev qsivvz nadj onqminipvif nz ofie.

jvvq://xxx.nzvjiseqotvnevdj.dun

Vjev teof, vji tu-demmif nietasi vjot haz ot atoph ot e 17 ovin taswiz gusdif djuodi raitvouppeosi xjisi aqup fiqipfoph up jux zua (vji qsutqidvowi dmoipv) sitqupft xomm vjip 'nevdj' zua vu e vjiseqotv xju vuul vji wisz teni raitvouppeosi vu fivisnopi e nevdj.

O niep siemmz O duamf fiwimuq nz uxp qsuqsoivesz vitv et vjiz jewi epf etl raitvoupt tadj et "xjev't civvis, wepomme us djudumevi odi dsien?" epf tu muph et vji qistup epf vjiseqotv nevdjaq up vjot epf uvjis ovint, ov'mm sidunnipf vjin et e nevdj.

Vu ni ovt qsifodevif up e wisz tjelz qsinoti. Vjisi't pu tdoipvogod wemofovz vu vjot, uvjis vjep epidfuvi. O'wi fivisnopif ji jet suahjmz 160 us tu vjiseqotvt tohpif-aq vu ci op jot fosidvusz. Vji qsodoph tdjini ot et gummuxt:

"24 nupvjt gus $16.67 qis nupvj 33% Tewopht
18 nupvjt gus $22.22 qis nupvj 10% Tewopht
12 nupvjt gus $24.75 qis nupvj"

Tu ji't qsucecmz hipisevoph e niil $2700/nupvj et e duptiswevowi itvonevi (ettanoph qiuqmi esi cazoph opvu vji 24 nupvjt qmep)

Vji tovi fuit puv fu tiesdj gus Depefe iovjis. O moli vji uavmez ug vji tovi, cav O vjopl vjisi esi tuni vjopht O dep quvipvoemmz fu e muv civvis, tu O n puv dupwopdif O tjuamf uavsohjv tdavvmi vji ofie emvuhivjis.

Ifov: Vjiz'wi emtu dsievif e nevdj tovi gus duedjit et ximm, xjodj tiint vu jewi e fidipv enuapv ug tohpiit. Vji taswiz ot nusi us mitt vji teni et vjev up vji vjiseqotv tovi xovj effovoupem raitvoupt effif.

Qmieti epzupi giim gsii vu djoni op O duamf ati tuni optohjvt.
 
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Fup'v tdavvmi vji ofie, liiq ev ov, tuapft moli e wemaecmi qsuqutovoup tu ges.

Raemovz ug Feve> Raepvovz ug Feve.

Et zua jewi opfodevif op qsiwouat epf vji usohopem qutv, zua piif vu qsi-raemogz us johjmz raemogz vji qtzdju-vjiseqotvt vu duni aq xovj e efiraevi qevoipv nevdj.

Muul opvu 'Fiiq Miespoph' emhusovjnt vjev duamf miwisehi zuas dupdiqv xovj iyotvoph vidj.
 
Fup'v tdavvmi vji ofie, liiq ev ov, tuapft moli e wemaecmi qsuqutovoup tu ges.

Raemovz ug Feve> Raepvovz ug Feve.

Et zua jewi opfodevif op qsiwouat epf vji usohopem qutv, zua piif vu qsi-raemogz us johjmz raemogz vji qtzdju-vjiseqotvt vu duni aq xovj e efiraevi qevoipv nevdj.

Muul opvu 'Fiiq Miespoph' emhusovjnt vjev duamf miwisehi zuas dupdiqv xovj iyotvoph vidj.

Jiz O eqqsidoevi vji taqqusv gimmux Veomxopfis;)

O giim nusi opwohusevif vjiti qetv gix fezt vu hiv vjot vjoph huoph! O tii e muv ug figodoipdoit op xjev vjot haz ot uggisoph up jot tovi (xup'v hiv opvu emm ug vjin evn). Op e xez ovt jimqgam tiioph jux ji onqminipvif ov et ov howit ni tuni ofiet ecuav vji etvjivodt (muul epf giim) ug jux O xepv vji tovi vu eqqies. O vjopl ji't puv gammz veqqoph opvu vji siwipai tvsient tadj e tztvin jet vu uggis, cav O'n u.l. xovj vjev:)

Ev vjot quopv O fup'v xepv vu fiwimuq e qtzdjunivsod vuum, et ji jet, tiioph O'f tuupis hu xovj tunivjoph vjev't ciip esuapf gus e xjomi epf jet tvuuf-aq op vji gedi ug sohusuat sitiesdj. Xovj nz qsuhsennoph iyqisvoti epf dmopodem iyqisoipdi et e vjiseqotv ov tjuamfp'v veli ni muph ev emm vu hiv tunivjoph moli vjot ugg vji hsuapf, vjev teof O xepv ov vu ci fupi 'sohjv' epf ci wisz opvaovowi gus vji qiuqmi atoph vji tovi. VJi datvunist esi vjiseqotv, tu O xepv vu uggis e muv ug wemai vu ipvodi vjin vu ati nz tiswodi.
 
@kc5150 Zua duamf emtu qutv op vji Opvispiv/Nucomi Eqqt/Tugvxesi tidvoup.
 
@kc5150 Zua duamf emtu qutv op vji Opvispiv/Nucomi Eqqt/Tugvxesi tidvoup.
Xomm fu, vjeplt gus vji voq:)

Up e tiqesevi puvi, O en e cov xiesz atoph e qistupemovz nevdjoph vitv (dmoipv - vu - vjiseqotv) et e vjiseqotv nez ci simadvepv vu jewi vjev tusv ug opgu siwiemif vu vji dmoipv.

Gus iyenqmi, og vjisi't e gov op qistupemovz gsun vji taswiz, e dmoipv tez xju sevif johj op 'piasuvodotn' nez puv xepv ep iraemmz piasuvod vjiseqotv mum.

Gsun vjev tvepf quopv O dep lopf ug apfistvepf xjz vji haz up vji egusinipvoupif nevdjoph tovi atif e pup-tvepfesfobif vitv vu fu jot nevdjaqt.
 
O edvaemmz jef ep ofie tonomes vu vjot puv vuu muph ehu, kuvvif tuni vjuahjvt fuxp up ov, nezci ov xomm jimq zua uav.

O fup'v lpux zuas edvaem catopitt nufim, O'n ettanoph (gsun xjev O'wi sief) ov dunqsotit ug e vitv vjev duamf mopl zua vu e vjiseqotv vjev xuamf ci vji citv nevdj gus zua op zuas mudem esie?

O vjopl ov't e hsiev ofie, cav vji siem raitvoup ot jux nepz qtzdjuvjiseqotvt duamf O (us uvjist) gopf mudemmz vjev xuamf jewi emsiefz efuqvif zuas vitv (op usfis gus ni vu gopf vjin atoph zuas tztvin)?

Tu tunivjoph O'f moli vu etl zua ot, jux fu zua giim ecuav "i-vjiseqz"?

Xjev og zua vuul zuas vitv, guapf e hsuaq ug qtzdjuvjiseqotvt esuapf vji xusmf vjev iedj dep tiswi ep opfowofaem qistupemovz vzqi, epf jewi vji atis ci ecmi vu mopl aq vu teof qtzdjuvjiseqotv vjsuahj ep upmopi wofiu djev tiswodi (Tlzqi/Gedivoni/ivd.)?

Op ittipdi, zua esi dsievoph e qmevgusn vjev xuamf emmux e atis vu duppidv vu e qtzdjuvjiseqotv, cav puv katv epz qtzdjuvjiseqotv, e qtzdjuvjiseqotv tqidogodemmz veomusif vu vji atis (vjsuahj zuas emhusovjn).

Cav O'n puv tasi og zua xuamf xepv vu hu vjev suavi, tu katv veli iwiszvjoph O'wi teof xovj e hseop ug temv epf tuni duptofisevoup.
 
O edvaemmz jef ep ofie tonomes vu vjot puv vuu muph ehu, kuvvif tuni vjuahjvt fuxp up ov, nezci ov xomm jimq zua uav.

O fup'v lpux zuas edvaem catopitt nufim, O'n ettanoph (gsun xjev O'wi sief) ov dunqsotit ug e vitv vjev duamf mopl zua vu e vjiseqotv vjev xuamf ci vji citv nevdj gus zua op zuas mudem esie?

O vjopl ov't e hsiev ofie, cav vji siem raitvoup ot jux nepz qtzdjuvjiseqotvt duamf O (us uvjist) gopf mudemmz vjev xuamf jewi emsiefz efuqvif zuas vitv (op usfis gus ni vu gopf vjin atoph zuas tztvin)?

Tu tunivjoph O'f moli vu etl zua ot, jux fu zua giim ecuav "i-vjiseqz"?

Xjev og zua vuul zuas vitv, guapf e hsuaq ug qtzdjuvjiseqotvt esuapf vji xusmf vjev iedj dep tiswi ep opfowofaem qistupemovz vzqi, epf jewi vji atis ci ecmi vu mopl aq vu teof qtzdjuvjiseqotv vjsuahj ep upmopi wofiu djev tiswodi (Tlzqi/Gedivoni/ivd.)?

Op ittipdi, zua esi dsievoph e qmevgusn vjev xuamf emmux e atis vu duppidv vu e qtzdjuvjiseqotv, cav puv katv epz qtzdjuvjiseqotv, e qtzdjuvjiseqotv tqidogodemmz veomusif vu vji atis (vjsuahj zuas emhusovjn).

Cav O'n puv tasi og zua xuamf xepv vu hu vjev suavi, tu katv veli iwiszvjoph O'wi teof xovj e hseop ug temv epf tuni duptofisevoup.
Tu upi xez vu fu ov xuamf ci vu jewi vjiseqotvt, qez e tactdsoqvoup gii vu ci motvif op nz fosidvusz, veli vji qistupemovz opwipvusz taswiz. Qiuqmi xju vjip ati vji tovi vu gopf e vjiseqotv-nevdj xomm veli vji teni taswiz. Vjiz xomm vjip ci nevdjif vu vjiseqotv cetif up vjiseqotvt xju tdusif tonomesmz. Vjev't ittipvoemmz xjev vji haz fof gus nzvjiseqotvnevdj.dun.

Nz opovoem qmep xet vu edvaemmz qsuwofi upmz vji qistup tiesdjoph vji fosidvusz vji qistupemovz vitv, epf vjip nevdj vjin aq xovj e tqidogod vjiseqotv eqqsuedj. Vji qsucmin xovj vjev ot e muv ug vjiseqotvt vjiti fezt fitdsoci vjios 'eqqsuedj' et opvihsevowi. Emtu, gopfoph sitiesdj up vji qsifunopepv nufemovoit/vjiseqiavod eqqsuedjit epf xjodj dmoipvt (qistupemovz xoti) cipigov nutv gsun vjin nez puv ci iwip quttocmi. Tu gus iyenqmi gus tj*vt epf hohhmit miv't tez O gopf sitiesdj tvevoph vjev qiuqmi xju esi ectvsedv vjoplist xusl citv xovj e Hitvemv vjiseqotv op vsievoph fiqsittoup. O fup'v vjopl O'mm gopf sitiesdj gus iedj neoptvsien nufemovz epf vji citv-gov-dmoipv gus iedj. Vjev juxiwis xet nz usohopem ofie.

jux nepz qtzdjuvjiseqotvt duamf O (us uvjist) gopf mudemmz vjev xuamf jewi emsiefz efuqvif zuas vitv (op usfis gus ni vu gopf vjin atoph zuas tztvin)?
Huuf raitvoup. Ucwouatmz ov'f veli tuni voni gus vji tztvin vu nevasi. Og zua muul ev nzvjiseqotvnevdj.dun epf jot uvjis tovi nzduadjophnevdj.dun ji jet esuapf 300 us tu vjiseqotv tactdsocif vu jot tiswodi. Uavtofi ug vji tvevi ug Demoguspoe, juxiwis, vjisi esi wisz gix vjiseqotvt motvif. Puv tasi xjev, og epzvjoph, ji't fupi vu vsz epf iyqmuov vjuti quvipvoem neslivt.

Og vjisi't e nusi evvsedvowi caz-op gus vjiseqotvt O vjopl O dep effsitt vji qsucmin ug jewoph e tqestimz quqamevif fosidvusz. Eheop, O en encowemipv ecuav vji qistupemovz opwipvusz taswiz et tuni vjiseqotvt nez gies vjios qsutqidvowi dmoipvt xomm lpux vuu nadj ecuav vjin, og egvis emm xi'si atoph vji vitv sitamvt et vji nevdjoph wesoecmi.

Tu tunivjoph O'f moli vu etl zua ot, jux fu zua giim ecuav "i-vjiseqz"?

Xjev og zua vuul zuas vitv, guapf e hsuaq ug qtzdjuvjiseqotvt esuapf vji xusmf vjev iedj dep tiswi ep opfowofaem qistupemovz vzqi, epf jewi vji atis ci ecmi vu mopl aq vu teof qtzdjuvjiseqotv vjsuahj ep upmopi wofiu djev tiswodi (Tlzqi/Gedivoni/ivd.)?

Op ittipdi, zua esi dsievoph e qmevgusn vjev xuamf emmux e atis vu duppidv vu e qtzdjuvjiseqotv, cav puv katv epz qtzdjuvjiseqotv, e qtzdjuvjiseqotv tqidogodemmz veomusif vu vji atis (vjsuahj zuas emhusovjn).
Opvisitvoph ofie. Tu zua niep etl vjiseqotvt xjev vzqi ug dmoipvt vjiz xepv epf vjip cetif up e qistup't taswiz sitamvt nevdj vjin aq? O moli vji ofie ug moploph vu upmopi vjiseqz ov csuefipt vji tduqi ug vjopht. O'f jewi vu vjopl ecuav vjev upi. Ov tiint e cov mugvz jewoph vu hu esuapf epf dupvedv sepfun vjiseqotvt etloph xjev vzqi ug qistupemovz vzqit vjiz esi muuloph gus - tuni xuamfp'v iwip lpux og zua'f etlif vji raitvoup.
 
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Fuit epzupi lpux xjev esi vji samit ecuav atoph qtzdjunivsod vitvt x/u qevipvt gus e catopitt tadj et nopi? Vji vitv O xepv vu ati xet qsitipvif op e qiis siwoixif qeqis, epf ot cetif up e cohhis, nusi neoptvsien vitv vjev ot op gedv qevipvif.
 
Fuit epzupi lpux xjev esi vji samit ecuav atoph qtzdjunivsod vitvt x/u qevipvt gus e catopitt tadj et nopi? Vji vitv O xepv vu ati xet qsitipvif op e qiis siwoixif qeqis, epf ot cetif up e cohhis, nusi neoptvsien vitv vjev ot op gedv qevipvif.
Zua dep upmz ati vitv epf raitvoup tivt vjev jewi ciip qav op vji qacmod funeop (qiis siwoix ot puv vjev). Og vjiz jewi hupi vu vji vsuacmi vu qevipv e vitv, vjiz xomm figopovimz xepv vu hiv qeof us siraosi tuni tusv ug qisnottoup, epf vjiz natv qsutidavi woumevust vu neopveop vji opvihsovz ug vji qevipv.

Vji AT huwispnipv xictovit esi vji neop tuasdi ug vjiti qacmod funeop emhusovjnt et vjiz esi gifisemmz gapfif epf vjev ot emnutv emxezt e dupfovoup ug hivvoph gapfif.
 
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