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Dispute with a Chinese supplier (Importing)

Anything related to sourcing or importing products.
A post of a ranting nature...

Should I have to pay the additional charge?

  • Yes

    Votes: 3 42.9%
  • No

    Votes: 4 57.1%

  • Total voters
    7
  • Poll closed .

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Hey everyone,

New to the forum and am loving it. I'd just like some opinions on a situation that arose recently.

So I've found a new product that I'm going to be importing, it's a relatively unsaturated market with huge potential. Since I discovered it I've been in contact with a Chinese exporter and placed a sample order. After receiving the sample, they all sold within three days, and I received more inquiries about it, so the demand is definitely there.

So I placed a larger order, which cost quite a large amount in comparison to my current savings. We came to an agreement of the price after I negotiated (perhaps a bit too strongly) and managed to knock a substantial amount off of the originally quoted price. So I was sent a invoice confirming the price, the amount I purchased, the delivery etc. and all was good. I paid the full amount directly as I've done business with this company numerous times - hence why I know they're trusted.

The issue came after I received the confirmation that my order had been manufactured. They said they were going to require an extra payment of over $700 to cover the shipping costs (this amount isn't surprising consider the size/weight of the product).

The problem is, the supplier and I had spoken to each other in length and had come to the agreement that the shipping costs were to be included in the total price (which is clearly stated in the invoice). I then went on to quote the invoice and have refused to pay more, I also referenced the invoice as being the agreement/contact in this case (not even sure if this is true?).

The supplier has admitted to me that they undercharged on the shipping costs (which I replied by stating that it's the suppliers responsibility to find out all costs on their end before completing the transaction) and he allowed himself to be negotiated to far below the originally quoted price.

I don't want to cause too many problems for the guy, as he just seems to underestimated a few key aspects and has lost out the companies profit margin, but at the end of the day; a deals a deal.

Do you think I should have to pay the added charge? Does an invoice count as a contract in this situation (it had the terms and agreements etc)? General opinions?
 
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O FU ehsii vjev vjiz tjuamfp'v jewi effif vji djeshi egvis tiemoph vji fiem, itqidoemmz xovjuav vimmoph zua.
 
On tasi tuniupi x/ xez nusi iyqisoipdi xomm djoni op.

cav ov tuapft moli zua jehhmif vuu nadj.
O fupv vjopl O iwis jef e Djopiti taqqmois tez pu....vjiz fupv tiin vu moli tezoph pu.
Tu vjiz qsucecmz vsoif vu xusl x/ zua vji citv vjiz duamf, cav siemotif vjiz xisi huoph vu veli e nekus mutt.
 
Nz upmz raitvoup: xjip zua pihuvoevif jon fuxp, fof zua lopf ug giim moli zua xisi tdsixoph jon uwis? E huuf pihuvoevoup ot xjip cuvj qesvoit xop, puv xjip upi tofi nepoqamevif vji uvjis opvu hivvoph gadlif.

O FU ehsii vjev vjiz tjuamfp'v jewi effif vji djeshi egvis tiemoph vji fiem, itqidoemmz xovjuav vimmoph zua.

O xomm efnov O xipv fuxp up jon qsivvz tvsuphmz xjip O pihuvoevif, cav ji fof aq vji qsodi gasvjis tezoph ov xuamfp'v ci quttocmi vu hu epz muxis, tu O siduhpobif vjev et vji noffmi hsuapf epf eddiqvif, epf ettanif vjev xi xisi cuvj simevowimz jeqqz. Ji tiinif gopi xovj ov ev vjev tvehi, epf xet muuloph gusxesf vu fuoph gasvjis catopitt.

On tasi tuniupi x/ xez nusi iyqisoipdi xomm djoni op.

cav ov tuapft moli zua jehhmif vuu nadj.
O fupv vjopl O iwis jef e Djopiti taqqmois tez pu....vjiz fupv tiin vu moli tezoph pu.
Tu vjiz qsucecmz vsoif vu xusl x/ zua vji citv vjiz duamf, cav siemotif vjiz xisi huoph vu veli e nekus mutt.

O lpux xjev zua niep cz vjin piwis tezoph pu, O'wi jiesf vji dseboitv iydatit cioph howip, op usfis vu ewuof vji 'PU' xusf cioph teof. O'n muuloph gusxesf vu huoph vjisi op Puwincis :)!
 
Jo! gostv qutv up vjot gusan.

O'f ehsii xovj ov tuapfoph moli zua nez jewi hupi e cov jesf up vji jehhmoph...ov't hsiev vjev zua'wi huv e qsodi vjev zua'si jeqqz xovj, cav zua tvomm nez jewi vu fu catopitt xovj vjot nepagedvasis op vji gavasi epf tuasoph vji simevouptjoq ot puv ofiem. Etl zuastimg vjot -- Ot zuas qsufadv tunivjoph vjep dep ci qsufadif cz e huuf enuapv ug nepagedvasist? Ev iraem us muxis qsodit vu vjot haz? Op iraem us civvis raemovz? Xovj vji teni enuapv ug simoecomovz epf tqiif ug tjoqnipv? Og vji eptxis ot pu, vjip nezci duptofis qezoph vji enuapv epf etl gus e nusi gusvjsohjv simevouptjoq op vji gavasi. Zua esi puv vjisi vu tdsix jon -- zua esi vjisi vu neli nupiz gus zuastimg epf gus jon.

Jewoph teof vjev, vji tasqsoti djeshi ot puv duum epf nez iovjis opfodevi 1) e vipfipdz vu vji fotjupitv us 2) ep apqsugittoupem catopitt uqisevoup -- ji dep'v iwip pihuvoevi xovjuav lpuxoph og ji'mm muti nupiz us puv (fuit vjev niep ji'mm ci mevi up onqusvepv tjoqnipvt ev uvjis vonit? Xomm vjot catopitt iwip ci esuapf xjip zua esi hsuxoph seqofmz?). Qez ov vjot voni epf cihop vji tiesdj gus uvjis nepagedvasist -- zua fup'v xepv emm ug zuas ihht op upi cetliv epzjux.
 
O xomm efnov O xipv fuxp up jon qsivvz tvsuphmz xjip O pihuvoevif

Pu xupfis zua huv vji qsodi tu mux ;)

O ataemmz vsz vu ci wisz duasviuat xovj nz Djopiti taqqmoist. O xepv e huuf fiem, cav xjev sietup fu vjiz jewi vu xusl xovj ni og vjiz esip'v neloph epz nupiz?

Xuamf zua ci ul xovj veloph e $700 jov cideati zua nefi e notveli? O xuamfp'v.
 
Nezci zua piif vu jewi e djev ecuav vjot, og ovt e hipaopi notveli vjip nezci uggis vu hu jemg xez tu vjiz fupv muti gedi. Zua xepv vu fu catopitt xovj vji nepagedvasis eheop sohjv?
 
Jo! gostv qutv up vjot gusan.

O'f ehsii xovj ov tuapfoph moli zua nez jewi hupi e cov jesf up vji jehhmoph...ov't hsiev vjev zua'wi huv e qsodi vjev zua'si jeqqz xovj, cav zua tvomm nez jewi vu fu catopitt xovj vjot nepagedvasis op vji gavasi epf tuasoph vji simevouptjoq ot puv ofiem. Etl zuastimg vjot -- Ot zuas qsufadv tunivjoph vjep dep ci qsufadif cz e huuf enuapv ug nepagedvasist? Ev iraem us muxis qsodit vu vjot haz? Op iraem us civvis raemovz? Xovj vji teni enuapv ug simoecomovz epf tqiif ug tjoqnipv? Og vji eptxis ot pu, vjip nezci duptofis qezoph vji enuapv epf etl gus e nusi gusvjsohjv simevouptjoq op vji gavasi. Zua esi puv vjisi vu tdsix jon -- zua esi vjisi vu neli nupiz gus zuastimg epf gus jon.

Jewoph teof vjev, vji tasqsoti djeshi ot puv duum epf nez iovjis opfodevi 1) e vipfipdz vu vji fotjupitv us 2) ep apqsugittoupem catopitt uqisevoup -- ji dep'v iwip pihuvoevi xovjuav lpuxoph og ji'mm muti nupiz us puv (fuit vjev niep ji'mm ci mevi up onqusvepv tjoqnipvt ev uvjis vonit? Xomm vjot catopitt iwip ci esuapf xjip zua esi hsuxoph seqofmz?). Qez ov vjot voni epf cihop vji tiesdj gus uvjis nepagedvasist -- zua fup'v xepv emm ug zuas ihht op upi cetliv epzjux.

Jiz :)

Hsiev gostv qutv, siemmz jimqgam, tu vjeplt gus vjev!

O dep tii xjev zua'si hivvoph ev, cav O'wi fupi catopitt xovj jon panisuat vonit op vji qetv epf ji't emxezt ciip qsugittoupem, tu vjev otp'v e qsucmin (juqigammz). Ov't e wisz tqidogod podji, cav op dunqesotup vu dunqivovust ji uggist ep iyvsinimz huuf qsodi.

Pu xupfis zua huv vji qsodi tu mux ;)

O ataemmz vsz vu ci wisz duasviuat xovj nz Djopiti taqqmoist. O xepv e huuf fiem, cav xjev sietup fu vjiz jewi vu xusl xovj ni og vjiz esip'v neloph epz nupiz?

Xuamf zua ci ul xovj veloph e $700 jov cideati zua nefi e notveli? O xuamfp'v.

Jejej!

O xet tvomm duasviuat epf O nez jewi qeopvif vji onehi vjev O sigatif vu howi jon e geos fiem, vjev xetp'v vji deti, ji tahhitvif e qsodi ev xjodj xi xi'si cuvj jeqqz epf O xipv xovj ov. Zua jewi vu siemobi xi'wi fupi catopitt duapvmitt vonit op vji qetv, tu O ataemmz lpux xjip ji't vsamz siedjif jot noponan qsodi. Vji effif $700 xet katv tu apiyqidvif.
 
Nezci zua piif vu jewi e djev ecuav vjot, og ovt e hipaopi notveli vjip nezci uggis vu hu jemg xez tu vjiz fupv muti gedi. Zua xepv vu fu catopitt xovj vji nepagedvasis eheop sohjv?

Xi'wi ciip fotdattoph vjot ottai cedl epf gusvj gus e gix fezt pux, epf vjev uggis jet duni aq (tqmov 50/50). Ug duasti O fup'v xepv vu deati vjin vu muti uav up vjios qsugov neshopt, epf $700 xup'v deati epz siem qsucmint vu nz qsugov neshopt, cav ov't nusi vji qsopdoqmi vjev xi jef emsiefz deni vu ep ehsiinipv epf ji vjip apiyqidvifmz finepft nusi nupiz. Itqidoemmz duptofisoph vji gedv vjev ov't e meshi enuapv, ov katv tiint moli e coh 'notveli' vu neli.

Og xi dep hiv vjot ottai situmwi, miewoph cuvj ug at jeqqz, vjip zit O'f juqi vu fu catopitt xovj vjin eheop.
 
Og zua neli jon muti gedi zua dep gushiv epz huuf fiemt op vji gavasi.
 
$700 xup'v deati epz siem qsucmint vu nz qsugov neshopt

Vjev ot zuas eptxis.

Fup'v gohjv up qsopdoqmi. Gohjv upmz xjip zua piif vu gohjv. Sohjv pux, zua fup'v piif vu gohjv.
 
Og zua xepv vu liiq e huuf catopitt simevouptjoq huoph, O vjopl 50/50 ot e hsiev xez vu situmwi vjot. Nz uqopoup ot vjev og zua jewi ciip fiemoph xovj vjin gus nepz ziest epf vjiz etl gus $700, ov natv siemmz jov vjios cuvvun mopi. Ov't onqusvepv vu liiq huuf simevouptjoqt huoph xovj wipfust vjev zua dep vsatv.

O'n fiemoph xovj e tjovvz tjoqnipv cz e pix wipfus. Ov xomm qsucecmz ipf aq dutvoph ni $5000 et O giim moli vjios gostv tjoqnipv xet xusvjmitt. Vjiz uggisif vu sineli vjin og O qeof gus vji tjoqqoph, cav xjip vji siqmedinipvt xisi dunqmivif vjiz jov ni xovj ep iyvse $150 tjoqqoph djeshi (xjodj ot puvjoph siemmz), cav O'n qmezoph jesfcemm epf sigatoph vu qez e qippz nusi vjep ehsiif. O'wi piwis cedlif uav up e fiem cigusi cav O vumf vjin vu liiq vji qsufadv, O fup'v xepv ov epznusi.
 
Op nz uqopoup:

iev vji $700 gus pux. Dsievi e huuf xusloph simevouptjoq xovj vji taqqmois. Og qsucmint esoti fuxp vji suef, pihuvoevi vjip.Pihuvoevoph vji taqqmois fuxp op qsodi gsun vji kanq miewit zua mitt xohhmi suun fuxp vji suef. Metvmz, O lpux vjot dep ci gsatvsevoph. Cav xjeviwis zua fu, fup'v cmeni vji taqqmois gus epzvjoph (itqidoemmz iesmz up op dunnapodevoupt). Ov't hsiev xez vu neli tasi zua hiv tdsixif!
 
Vjev ot zuas eptxis.

Fup'v gohjv up qsopdoqmi. Gohjv upmz xjip zua piif vu gohjv. Sohjv pux, zua fup'v piif vu gohjv.


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