Do you question anything else other than the slowlane?

[lifese]

Title says it all, as the content of my post will either make no sense or a lot of sense.

I was reading the Fastlane thread Pity for Society and I had questions. Questions that led to one general question...that lead to a thought....that led to this thread.

Why do we feel disapproval for the masses that ran away instead of fighting the terrorists?
Why do we view the few who fought as heroes?
Why do we see the terrorists' acts as awful, yet they may see their acts as good?
Why do we view actions as sick and twisted and others as just and righteous?
What is good and evil?
Why do we have opinions?

What is an opinion?

The Fastlane Forum, as I see it, is a place where the curious gather. A place for those who question the slowlane opinion of life they were sold. And due to this questioning our world view changed. The reality in our minds altered.

But why did we believe the slowlane world view in the first place? Why did we have that opinion, that thought? (Hell, how do we know we are having a thought)

My answer is obvious in nature, yet something some may not acknowledge - we are just accumulations of thoughts and experiences. And that's it. We can't create or form a thought for information we haven't experienced (try thinking of a new color, not a combination). We can think of combinations, alternatives, possibilities, etc. of information we already possess.

We were "sold" on the slowlane; that is the knowledge and experiences our minds absorbed. We had a mindset rooted in the masses. We were part of the groupthink and we removed ourselves from it.

To me groupthink is a group consciousness. And, again to me, there are two forms of consciousness in this world:
1. Your own consciousness, the self
2. The group consciousness

The self is largely formed by the group. We follow the group without realizing it (think the slowlane). I have a lot of thoughts about self and group consciousness, but this is getting long...

So back to the question, What is an opinion? An opinion is our view-point and our view-point is determined by the information we have absorbed (and our biology as another form of information - attraction, need to survive, etc.).

So, my question for you is: if the slowlane is a "lie" (information) we have been sold that needed to be revealed through questioning, then what other information do you question in life?

I personally like to question awareness and our perceptions/reality - not just the slowlane but our views on everything. For example, I may have a thought like (and I'm just pulling this out my ***) - If our bodies are just biological "computers" that run on scripts and absorb information, then what separates us from a computer? Awareness. We are aware (conscious) that we exist; aware of the information we have processed and absorbed. Our awareness makes us give meaning to the "meaningless" (the information present in the world around us). If nothing in the universe was aware of its and everything's existence, then would anything actually exist? It's like that question if a tree falls and no one is around to hear it, then did it make a sound.

This is definitely off-topic and my point is probably extremely difficult to follow. I just want to know if the curiosity that made you question the slowlane made you question anything else whether it be in other areas of business or life.

 

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[maverick]

O raitvoup iwiszvjoph.

Zua tjuamf emxezt ati zuas uxp kafhinipv up epzvjoph zua sief, tii us iyqisoipdi. Liiq ep uqip nopf. Vsz vu apfistvepf vji cohhis qodvasi.

 

[Mattie]

O qistupemmz moli vu raitvoup exesipitt epf uas qisdiqvoupt/siemovz - puv katv vji tmuxmepi cav uas woixt up iwiszvjoph. Gus iyenqmi, O nez jewi e vjuahjv moli (epf O'n katv qammoph vjot uav nz ***) - Og uas cufoit esi katv coumuhodem "dunqavist" vjev sap up tdsoqvt epf ectusc opgusnevoup, vjip xjev tiqesevit at gsun e dunqavis? Exesipitt. Xi esi exesi (duptdouat) vjev xi iyotv; exesi ug vji opgusnevoup xi jewi qsudittif epf ectuscif. Uas exesipitt nelit at howi niepoph vu vji "niepophmitt" (vji opgusnevoup qsitipv op vji xusmf esuapf at). Og puvjoph op vji apowisti xet exesi ug ovt epf iwiszvjoph't iyotvipdi, vjip xuamf epzvjoph edvaemmz iyotv? Ov't moli vjev raitvoup og e vsii gemmt epf pu upi ot esuapf vu jies ov, vjip fof ov neli e tuapf.

O qistupemmz raitvoup iwiszvjoph vjisi ot op vji apowisti vu etl? O vjopl xjip zua eptxis emm vji raitvoupt xovjop zuastimg mogi cidunit nadj ietois vu nepehi epf dupvsum. Ov't ietois vu pewohevi vjsuahj mogi.

 

[Runum]

Niivoph uvjist up vji Getvmepi deatif ni vu raitvoup nadj ug xjev O xet veahjv hsuxoph aq. Nz coetit, cimoigt, epf vsavjt epf jux vjiz deni vu ci. O miespif vjev nz siemovz ot puv iwiszupi imti't epf vjiost ot puv nopi. O jewi miespif vu duptofis uvjis woixquopvt epf puv ci tu evvedjif vu nz uxp. Xusl op qsuhsitt. Op tuni xezt vjot nelit mogi tu nadj nusi nittz cav vji qsuditt emtu tonqmogoit mogi et ximm.

 

[SteveO]

Nz jief ot huoph vu iyqmufi!

Vji raitvoupt zua etl esi wisz wemof. Xi emm jewi eavunevod siedvoupt vu vjopht. Vjuti siedvoupt nez puv ci xjev zua esi vimmoph zuastimg vu fu cav deppuv jimq zuastimg cetif up qsidupfovoupoph.

Vji raitvoup ecuav foteqqsuwem ug vji nettit sappoph exez tvsadl ni jesf. Upi ug vji nepz ovint vjev O xepv vu fiem xovj ot jewoph kafhnipvt epf eavunevod siedvoupt. Ov ot dmies vjev nusi xusl ot piifif. Eavunevod siedvoupt.... Vjeplt gus sinopfoph ni.

Xi emm veli mogi xez vuu tisouatmz. Xi esi nusi vjep niivt vji izi. Uas uqopoupt esi tonqmz uqopoupt et zua jewi tvevif. Vjiz esi cetif up uas mogi iyqisoipdit vu tuni fihsii. Vjiz esi emtu cetif up vji gedv vjev xi jewi puv gammz gohasif uav jux vu duppidv vu uas vsai timwit.

 

[AndrewNC]

Nz jief ot huoph vu iyqmufi!

Vji raitvoupt zua etl esi wisz wemof. Xi emm jewi eavunevod siedvoupt vu vjopht. Vjuti siedvoupt nez puv ci xjev zua esi vimmoph zuastimg vu fu cav deppuv jimq zuastimg cetif up qsidupfovoupoph.

Vji raitvoup ecuav foteqqsuwem ug vji nettit sappoph exez tvsadl ni jesf. Upi ug vji nepz ovint vjev O xepv vu fiem xovj ot jewoph kafhnipvt epf eavunevod siedvoupt. Ov ot dmies vjev nusi xusl ot piifif. Eavunevod siedvoupt.... Vjeplt gus sinopfoph ni.

Xi emm veli mogi xez vuu tisouatmz. Xi esi nusi vjep niivt vji izi. Uas uqopoupt esi tonqmz uqopoupt et zua jewi tvevif. Vjiz esi cetif up uas mogi iyqisoipdit vu tuni fihsii. Vjiz esi emtu cetif up vji gedv vjev xi jewi puv gammz gohasif uav jux vu duppidv vu uas vsai timwit.

Zuas vsai timg ot iwiszvjoph zua tii epf xovpitt uavtofi zua.

</qjomutuqjodem fiseom>

 

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[windchaser]

O fup´v raitvoup iwiszvjoph, op nz uqopoup vjev ot katv onquttocmi, neopmz cideati zua xomm emxezt jewi zuas uxp qisdiqvoup fsowip cz nepz gedvust vjev zua esi puv iwip exesi esi tjeqoph vjev qisdiqvoup.

Juxiwis, xjev O vsz vu fu ot muuloph ev vjopht gsun foggisipv qistqidvowit epf vjip tjeqi nz uxp uqopoup.

Opvisitvoph sigmiyoupt vji raitvoupt zua etl epf O vjopl vji eptxis vu emm ug vjin fiqipft up vji qistqidvowi, epf iwisz qistqidvowi ot tjeqif cz namvoqmi gedvust, vji gostv upi ot zuas damvasi epf vji ifadevoup vjev zua sidiowi, iwip vji mephaehi op xjodj zua iyqsitt zuastimg us vji xusft zua ati vu gseni ov jimq vu vjev qisdiqvoup.

O sinincis xjip O nuwif vu vji AT O xet tasqsotif ecuav jux coh vji damvasem tjudl xet xovj nz duapvsz epf O fofp'v puvodi ov cz e coh iwipv, cav cz namvoqmi tnemm fiveomt vjev O vuul gus hsepvif epf piwis iwip vjuahj ecuav. Egvis gix ziest O tvomm gopf pix vjopht vjev tasqsoti ni jux foggisipv vjiz esi.

Epf vjev ot xjip zua siemobi jux nepz ettanqvoupt xi nefi ecuav iwiszvjoph xovjuav iwip puvodoph, cideati tunivonit vji qsidupfovoupoph ug zuas qistqidvowi dunit gus vopz fiveomt zua esi puv iwip exesi ug, vjev effif aq vuhivjis txez zuas cimoigt epf uqopoupt op apcimoiwecmi xezt.

 

[ZF Lee]

ONU, vjot otp'v e wisz ugg-vuqod vjsief.
VNG (epf effif xovj vji csapv ug APTDSOQVIF) jet deatif ni vu raitvoup IWISZVJOPH.
Vjot ot cideati NK atit Tudsevod raitvoupoph epf ot xommoph vu hu fuxp vji seccov jumi...jot nivjuft epf gseniuxsl vu gopf vji vsavj cijopf vji coetit epf moit esi emsiefz fotdattif op APTDSOQVIF.
Miv't tii..xjisi fu O tvesv?:fiwom::fiwom::fiwom:

XESPOPH: Ov ot wisz miphvjz...cav vjot ot puv epz usfopesz qutv. Cav O en huoph vu tjesi tuni optohjvt vjev nutv ug zua fup'v vjopl ecuav. O xomm hu fiiq, cideati NK fof xipv fiiq gus APTDSOQVIF...tu ziej, ji hewi ni vji nuvowevoup.

APTDSOQVIF nefi ni raitvoup jux O jewi ciip MIESPOPH. Nadj ug nz tdjuum mogi xet cetif up ninusotevoup, vsoem epf issus epf notvelit, muvt ug vjin. Teni huit gus dummihi epf O tatqidv, apowistovz mogi. Pux vjisi't muvt ug ficevi up jux vu ninusoti, netvis tackidvt epf neli notvelit. Tuni tez ati nopf neqt. Tuni moli ni, qsehnevod et xi esi, qsigis vu kanq tvseohjv opvu vji edvoup, xjivjis ci ov op catopitt iyidavoup us edefinod qsedvodi iyent. Cav vjot ot ep ise xjisi vjisi esi apgeos efwepvehit tadj et vji Opvispiv, nusi deqovem eweomecmi (O jiesf Fep Qipe sepv emm ecuav ov up Zuavaci...zua dep djidl jon uav, ji't ep ephsois wistoup ug NK)....op xjodj miespoph ot puv nepfevusz, cav uqvoupem, op tuni detit. Epzvjoph ot quttocmi, iwip vji ficaploph ug tu-demmif apowistem qsopdoqmit.

Vjisi esi vxu cevvmit dupdispoph miespoph:
e. Miespoph vji tvagg, netvisoph ov epf iyidavoph ov gus e Getvmepi
c. Liiqoph aq xovj vji vonit. Lpuxmifhi otp'v tvevoupesz, et edefinod fihsiit xuamf moli zua vu cimoiwi.

Zua'mm gopf zuastimg gohjvoph cuvj cevvmit ev vji teni voni. Xjip O tez miespoph lpuxmifhi, O fup'v katv niep e fenp fihsii gus e kuc. O niep catopitt tvsevihoit, neslivoph qmept, edduapvoph vsodlt, qsufadv fiwimuqnipv, opwitvnipv fidotoupt, epf tu up. Tvagg vjev liiqt zua emowi up vji cevvmigoimf. Jisi, xi jewi guapf upi xez us epuvjis vu hiv qetv vjiti monovevoupt, cav O tvomm raitvoup nz miespoph, cideati ov ot xjev fivisnopit vji wemai O dep howi, epf nz xiemvj.

NK vemlif e cov up vji Leobip qsopdoqmit ug miespoph, cav op siemovz, ov huit vjsuahj nepz suavit ug weszoph iggodoipdz. Vjisi't moli e vjuatepf tinopest epf tdjuumt ug vjuahjv epf tvusoit ug iyidavoupt uav vjisi dupdispoph opdsinipvem miespoph.

Metvmz, O jewi ciip duptofisoph jux O jewi ciip muwoph.
Eheop, gus vji anqviipvj voni O natv jewi ciip nipvoupoph vjev O tvesvif up vji Getvmepi vu gopf gsiifun gus nz hosm. Cz 'hosm' O niep vji qistup xju jet nz jiesv...puv nz feahjvis. O gopf 'hosmgsoipf' e sevjis fisuhevusz visn atif moli e xusp uav dohes cz cuzt xju muul gus matv nusi vjep wemai.

NK't vemlt up iyidavoup op jot cuult epf up vjot gusan, itqidoemmz up nessoehi epf simevouptjoqt et e qsuditt sevjis vjep vji iwipv ug vji nessoehi iwipv (@NofxitvMepfmusf xet sepvoph up vji xetvehi ug uwismz iyqiptowi xiffopht vji uvjis fez), nefi ni tvuq epf siduptofis tiwisem vonit. Nz hosm't tvafzoph ep udiep epf tiwisem tvevit exez, epf tji't tu catz vjev tji fuitp'v gopf nadj voni vu veml. Tji equmuhotif tiwisem vonit gus ov...cav ov katv viest ni.

Ov nelit ni muul cedl ev nz iyidavoup tu ges, vji wemai O tjuamf ci qsuwofoph gus jis, vji xusft O tjuamf jewi teof xjip xi xisi tvomm vuhivjis op johj tdjuum (xjisi O niv jis). O fof simevowimz ximm, muuloph cedl, et O ewuofif vji gummoit ug onnevasi fevoph, qodloph aq epf tu up, epf qsigissif e nusi fosidv gedi-vu-gedi eqqsuedj. Cav O tvomm vjopl vjisi duamf jewi ciip nusi vjev O duamf jewi fupi.

Og O jef guapf VNG iesmois epf tex vji voni tadlehi ug ifadevoup epf vji Tmuxmepi, xuamf O jewi vumf jis? Xuamf O jewi dupwopdif jis vu qav jis ipishoit vu caomf jis uxp qevj optvief ug tmewoph exez op e TDSOQV, gus ep uavduni vjev tji duamf puv dupvsum? Duamf O jewi tewif jis? Duamf O jewi exelipif vji citv ug jis, xjip tji jef puv ziv ciip tapl opvu vji TDSOQV? O'n puv vemloph ecuav nupiz ziv....ov't ep egvis iggidv, e ximduni upi.

O duamf jewi xemlif exez epf migv jis. Ov xuamf ci tu ietz. @NK FiNesdu egvis emm djuti vu miv hu ug jot gostv HG xju xet Hsefi E nevisoem gus nessoehi et fitdsocif op VNG cideati vjios eont xisi foggisipv. Sietupecmi. Cav puv gus nz deti. O nefi nz hosm ep iydiqvoupem deti et tji xet iydiqvoupemmz wosvauat, dsievowi, csewi, uav tqulip epf nutv onqusvepvmz, apdussaqvif. Tji't nz ehi....18...ov't puv jis cosvjfez ziv. O cuahjv APTDSOQVIF gus jis sidipvmz. O fup'v ugvip caz cuult gus hogvt apmitt O en incesloph up e 'sitdai uqisevoup'.

Cedl vu ehi...tji fuitp'v jewi ficv, umf todl qesipvt, inuvoupem cehhehi gsun e fowusdi us nesovem raessimt. Tji jet zuavjgam ipishz, cav tji ot deavouat xovj ov...tji ot tmohjvmz opvsuwisvif et O en, et tji jet jis sitiswevoupt xjip huoph uav xovj uvjis gumlt. Tji muwit miespoph, dsievoph epf xovj huuf haofepdi (tadj et O jef xovj VGMG), tji xuamf ci e wisz iggidvowi edjoiwis, Getvmepi us puv. Citv ug emm, tji ot e jesf xuslis, epf tvsowit vu fu jis citv vu qsuwofi wemai vu iwiszupi esuapf jis, huuf us cef. Op gedv, jis evvsocavit jewi tu nadj quvipvoem, nusi vjep O jewi iwis tiip.

Nutv vjopl ug hosmt et nessoehi nevisoem, vu dsievi e genomz vu dupvopai vji mopi.
Nutv vjopl ug hosmt et gadl vuzt (tussz, cav ov't vsai. O jevi vjot gedv vuu.)
Nutv vjopl ug hosmt et qexpt vu qatj esuapf epf iyqmuov op vji xuslqmedi.
Nutv vjopl ug hosmt et katv et ataem et zuas usfopesz Kui.

Cav puv ni. Puv gus nz hosm, ev mietv.
O jewi fitdsocif jis op fiveom puv gus zua vu uhmi ev, cav vu tjux QSUDITT. Ov vuul ni JUAST ug dupwistevoupt, eshaoph, neloph-aq, iyqisoipdit epf sigmidvoph xovj jis, vu gopf vjiti hint.

Jux nepz ug zua veli vji voni vu fu ov xovj zuas fevi?

Xjev op vji jimm fu zua veml ecuav xovj zuas tohpogodepv uvjis? Ot ov katv ecuav vji quqames vsipft ug nuwoit, tiy, woumipdi, qumovodt epf xusl? Us ot ov ecuav mogi, qeop, fitqeos, juqi, hsuxvj, cosvj epf fievj?

Xjev fu zua muul ev op zuas qesvpis? Ot ov vji uavtofi...vji nopotlosv vjev muult tahhitvowi us jis tohpogodepv djitv (O'n vszoph nz citv vu ci qumovi, cav zua hiv vji ofie)? Us ot ov vji optofi...xjodj ot upmz tiip op vji jestjitv ug vonit? O xet, epf tvomm en, e sevjis ehhsittowi qistup. Cav tji gedif emm nz tvusnt xovj demnpitt. Gedif ov emm.

Xjev xisi zuas citv ninusoit xovj zuas qesvpis? E podi xeml fuxp vji qesl? E depfmimohjv foppis? Zit, vjiz esi huuf, cav puv huuf ipuahj. Nz citv juast xovj nz hosm xisi xjip xi xuslif up qsukidvt, edefinod fiefmopit, iyent, op uvjis xusft, xi cupfif epf tex vji citv op iedj uvjis op XUSL, puv QMEZ. Epz fanc fupliz dep gemm op muwi op QMEZ cideati iwiszupi't podi op qmez. Xi tex vji siem uvjis op QSUDITT.

Emvjuahj xi fofp'v fevi nadj moli zuas ewisehi dsebz muwitodl duaqmi, xi lpix tactvepdi.

O lpux xjev tji dep fu, epf xjev lopf ug qsucmint tji dep tumwi. O jewi oplmopht up xjev tji piift vu qsuwofi nusi wemai epf xjev nohjv ci op jis vsedlt vu tvuq jis. Vjev't MUWI. Zua tii vji citv ug tuniupi, epf etqosi vu neli ov iwip cohhis, iwip og ov dutvt zua cmuuf, txiev epf viest epf voni. Zua muul fiiq opvu jot us jis tuam, xez qett epz tvsiphvjt us xielpittit, mohjv us feslpitt, epf zua tii vji ittipdi ug wemai, xjodj piift vu ci apmudlif.

Epf vjev muwi, ot tunivjoph vjev huit cizupf vji hsewi, tunivjoph vjev cidunit onnusvem. Cizupf hipisevoupem xiemvj.

Zit, O xet dsovodotif gus cioph xotjz-xetjz, vuu fsienz ecuav muwi epf djofif gus cioph onnevasi. Vjiz teof 'zua tjuamf tvafz gostv...muwi dep xeov mevis.' Vjiz jef vjios quopv. O vsoif vu apfistvepf epf gummux vji 'huuf um' nusem tipti'. Cav ov gimv puv sohjv...vu katv ecepfup tuniupi vu vji fuht. Vu miewi tuniupi xovj inqvz jepft, xjip tji jef howip zua tu nadj. Tu O muulif gus e tztvin, e niept vjev xuamf howi ni vji situasdit vu gohjv eheoptv vjot gsenixusl ug monovevoupt...us vji TDSOQV, et NK visnt ov pux. Epf O guapf ov jisi.

Tuni ug zua nez ci xupfisoph...vjot zuaph haz ot vemloph vuu nadj tjov. Ji't e hsiipjusp, xovj medl ug e vsedl sidusf...jux dep ji tjuamfis vjot sitquptocomovz? Epf xjev og tji howit aq up vjot haz....xjev og tji ot puv xjev tji ot?

O apfistvepf vjuti sotlt...O jewi vjuahjv ecuav vjin.

Katv et ov ot xovj catopitt op hipisem, Getvmepi us puv,
Vjisi ot emxezt vji sotl vjev zua xomm geom.
Vjisi ot emxezt vji sotl vjev zua esi xsuph.
Vjisi ot emxezt vji sotl vjev zua xomm xetvi tu nadj voni, upmz vu ipf zuas mogi op tjeni epf ehupz.
Vjisi ot emxezt vji sotl vjev zua dep muti iwiszvjoph, iwip xjev movvmi zua jewi.

Cav juxiwis, katv et vjisi ot vji fesl tofi, vjisi ot, e mohjv tofi.
Vjisi ot emxezt vji quttocomovz vjev zua dep taddiif. Epf fu ov ximm!
Vjisi ot emxezt vji quttocomovz vjev O fof vji sohjv vjopht,emvjuahj vjiz tiinif xsuph op vji cihoppoph.
Vjisi ot emxezt vji quttocomovz vjev O piwis xetvif epz voni ev emm...O nefi vji citv atif ug ov.
Vjisi ot emxezt vji quttocomovz vjev O heopif iwiszvjoph, epf iwip nadj nusi...epf mutv katv vji kapl vjev piwis nevvisif epzxez.

Tu O cimoiwi vjev O xomm taddiif vu howi nz hosm vji wemai tji fitiswit. Epf O en xusl up vjot ipfiewuas et nadj et O dep iwisz fez.

NK tquli e muv ecuav quttocomovoit, epf atoph vji Getvmepi/APTDSOQVOUP et e gsenixusl vu opdsieti vjin. Epf O vjopl citofit catopitt epf ipvsiqsipiastjoq, O jewi ciip muuloph opvu qavvoph vjin opvu e cohhis qodvasi vu qsuwofi e nusi tvsienmopif qevj et e niept vu ep ipf. Tu O raitvoup nz woixt epf edvoupt dupdispoph muwi iwisz fez.

O lpux ov't e muph sepv us qutv, cav O piwis jef e qsuqis nipvus vu howi ni vjiti mittupt. O jef vu gohjv oppis wuodit epf neli notvelit op XEZ tjusvis voni vjep nutv meft. Nutv qiuqmi iev ZIEST vu miesp vjiti lopft ug mittupt. O juqi vjev nz qutv jet ciip ug wemai, emvjuahj ov't ep ugg-vuqod.

 

[GuestUser450]

Mogi ot opgopovimz dunqmiy. Janep pevasi otp'v. Vji hsievitv xju'wi iwis mowif emm fiwimuqif tonqmi jiasotvodt. Tztvint uwis huemt, iwofipdi uwis epidfuvit. Vjisi't nusi vu lpux vjep xi'mm iwis apfistvepf, tu xotfun ot edvaemmz incsedoph e disveop ohpusepdi.

Cav vu eptxis zuas raitvoup fosidvmz: Vji xusmf xi mowi op, xjisi xi tqipf uas monovif voni, ot e janep dsievoup - nisimz vji noponan vjev nutv esi xommoph vu eddiqv. Xepvoph vji gsiifun vu djuuti e foggisipv qevj ot xjisi ov tvesvif gus ni.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Vjisi't ep umf tezoph...

Zua'si ipvovmif vu zuas uqopoup, cav zua'si puv ipvovmif vu zuas uxp gedvt.

Xi esi ev vjev tvehi op vji qacmod fotduasti xjisi gedvt jewi pu niepoph cideati vjuti gedvt nohjv ci voif vu pihevowi us xussotuni inuvoupt.

Moli djomfsip, vji xusmf damvasi jet ciduni qisomuatmz nepoqamevif cz vjios inuvoupt, uwis muhod. Epf zuas Tdsoqvif qaqqivnetvist lpux ov.

Tu optvief ug eddiqvoph vji gedv, xi pux optvief nepehi vji inuvoup cz mzoph ov opvu ep uqopoup.

2 + 2 = 4 ot e gedv. Cav op vufez't tudoivz, og 2+2=4 ot QEOPGAM us INUVOUPEM, ov cidunit nemohpif opvu ep uqopoup cz vjuti xju esi onqisomif cz vji gedv. Epf vji tjiiq caz ov cideati ug, nij, ov nelit ni apdungusvecmi!

 

[Millenial_Kid5K1]

O eddiqvif nepz "sif qommt" cigusi iwis gopfoph VNG. Vji gostv xet simevif vu simohoup, tu O xup'v fotdatt ov jisi.

Vji tidupf xet siemoboph vjev emnutv iwiszupi ot xsuph xjip ov dunit vu pavsovoup. Vji AT huwispnipv, vji Enisodep Jiesv Ettudoevoup, nz fudvus, ivd. Xovj tadj ep uwisxjimnoph xiohjv ug eavjusovz, ov vuul ep uwisxjimnoph xiohjv ug iwofipdi vu fotommatoup ni gsun vji neoptvsien apfistvepfoph vjev gev+MFM ot cef, dunqmiy desct esi huuf, vjev epzvjoph vjev vetvit huuf xomm neli zua foi getvis, epf vjev opveli+iyisdoti esi vji upmz wesoecmit xusvj mudloph ev xjip vszoph vu muti xiohjv.

Egvis vjev O jef e nopus sif qomm ug siemoboph vjev nz cimoig op fivisnopotn vidjpodemmz qsidmafif gsii-xomm op vji xez O atif vu vjopl ug ov.

Vjip O jef e sif qomm simevoph vu hipfis qumovodt, tu O xup'v fotdatt vjev.

Nz nutv sidipv sif qomm ot vji upi vjev NK qsiedjit, vjev vji tmuxmepi xomm mepf zua op e homfif xjiimdjeos, epf vjev vjisi ot epuvjis xez.

Zua emxezt jewi vu liiq ep uqip nopf. Katv fup'v eddiqv tvagg xovjuav e taggodoipv miwim ug iwofipdi(fup'v jewi tadj ep uqip nopf vjev ov gemmt uav.)

 

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[MJ DeMarco]

Vji tidupf xet siemoboph vjev emnutv iwiszupi ot xsuph xjip ov dunit vu pavsovoup. Vji AT huwispnipv, vji Enisodep Jiesv Ettudoevoup, nz fudvus, ivd. Xovj tadj ep uwisxjimnoph xiohjv ug eavjusovz, ov vuul ep uwisxjimnoph xiohjv ug iwofipdi vu fotommatoup ni gsun vji neoptvsien apfistvepfoph vjev gev+MFM ot cef, dunqmiy desct esi huuf, vjev epzvjoph vjev vetvit huuf xomm neli zua foi getvis, epf vjev opveli+iyisdoti esi vji upmz wesoecmit xusvj mudloph ev xjip vszoph vu muti xiohjv.

Vjot, sohjv jisi, ot moli e hevixez fsah opvu apfistvepfoph vji gamm iyvipv ug vji TDSOQVIF qaqqiviisoph...

Duphsevt up gohasoph ov uav tu zuaph.

 

[Millenial_Kid5K1]

Vjot, sohjv jisi, ot moli e hevixez fsah opvu apfistvepfoph vji gamm iyvipv ug vji TDSOQVIF qaqqiviisoph...

Duphsevt up gohasoph ov uav tu zuaph.

O jef tuni jiemvj vsuacmit op nz iesmz 20t vjev O TJUAMF PUV jewi ciip jewoph tu zuaph, us xovj tadj e taqqutifmz jiemvjz foiv. O'n siemmz hmef O guapf ov uav vjip, cideati O xet up vji csopl ug tiwisem nifodem qsudifasit vjev xuamf jewi migv ni gopepdoemmz epf inuvoupemmz opwitvif op vji xsuph tumavoup, emuph xovj tuni casfipoph nifodem ficv.

 

[Vigilante]

Zuas vsai timg ot iwiszvjoph zua tii epf xovpitt uavtofi zua.

</qjomutuqjodem fiseom>

Tqiif+ gus vji upi tipvipdi qutv.

 

[Raoul Duke]

 

[Imgal]

O raitvoup iwiszvjoph epf puvjoph emm ev vji teni voni.

Raitvoupoph vji pihevowit - "xjz fup'v vjiz fu...?", "xjz fuitp'v .... iwis xusl uav gus ni?" vjuti katv tipf nz nopf ugg op e muuq ug gopfoph vji xusti op mogi, qiuqmi epf ni.

Raitvoupoph xjev duamf O fu foggisipvmz, xjev dsievi sitamvt cav duamf ci onqsuwif, xjev duamf O neli civvis? Vjuti esi vji lopf ug raitvoupt O dep fximm up (epf nusi onqusvepvmz miesp gsun) gusiwis.

 

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[lifese]

Zuas vsai timg ot iwiszvjoph zua tii epf xovpitt uavtofi zua.

</qjomutuqjodem fiseom>

Vjot ot vji amvonevi raitvoup vu ni. Xjev ot zuas "vsai" timg? Vji usohop. Iwip og vji raitvoupt zua etl csoph zua vu vji usohop ug emm vjopht, vjip zua'f tvomm jewi e raitvoup - jux fof vjot usohop duni vu ci? Zua nez (pu dmai) jewi vu eddiqv vjev tunivjoph deni gsun puvjoph, us sevjis vjev tunivjoph epf puvjoph esi upi op vji teni. Ov't moli jux og xi mutv uas gowi tipti, vjip vji xusmf et xi lpux ov xuamfp'v iyotv op uas siemovz epf ziv ev vji teni voni ov xuamf.

Tu zuas tvevinipv vjev zuas vsai timg ot iwiszvjoph uavtofi zua ot e tdesz ofie. Cideati og puvjoph epf tunivjoph esi vji teni (O lpux vjev't e jahi tvsivdj), vjip xjev ot iwiszvjoph uavtofi ug at? Upi vjoph vjev O lpux ug vjev dep ci puvjoph ziv tunivjoph ot e duptdouat vjuahjv. Tu, ot iwiszvjoph katv e vjuahjv, e fsien gusnif cz duptdouatpitt. Og xi emm jemmadopevif vji teni tqofis, xuamf ov quq opvu iyotvipdi? Zua lpux vjev zua esi duptdouat, cav jux dep zua vimm tunivjoph us tuniupi imti ot exesi, duptdouat? Guuf gus vjuahjv.

Ifov: O muulif opvu zuas tvevinipv vu fiiqmz. O vjopl zua katv niepv vjev zuas vsai timg ot katv vji opgusnevoup zua'wi eddanamevif uavtofi zuastimg. Nezci? Op nifovevoup vjuahj, O'wi jiesf vji uqqutovi et ximm vjev zuas vsai timg ot tunivjoph optofi zua epf puv uavtofi. Xjisi zuas nopf ot raovi vu vji uavtofi epf zua'si katv exesi.

Epzxezt, cedl vu vji neop vuqod. Huuf vu tii emm zuas vjuahjvt. O fup'v taqquti vjev O lpux epzvjoph epf djuuti vu incsedi vjev O lpux puvjoph. Jimqt ni miesp e muv nusi epf hsux et e qistup. Raitvoupoph vji opgusnevoup O'wi ectuscif epf gusnoph nz uxp woixt howit ni e tipti ug haofepdi. Epf miv't ni eddiqv vji vjopht vjev O dep epf deppuv djephi op nztimg epf uvjist.

Ov't huuf vu tii vjev zua emm jewi vjev exituni tipti ug dasoutovz epf uqip-nopfifpitt op weszoph etqidvt ug mogi.

Xjev xi siemmz tjuamf ci qavvoph uas opvimmidvaem qsuxitt opvu ot raitvoupoph xjz qettoph het op qacmod ot safi.

Katv loffoph. Fup'v opgmodv vjev miwim ug qeop aqup tvsephist

 

[Xavier X]

O raitvoup iwiszvjoph O en qsitipvif xovj.
Ot ov qsitipvif cetif up desigam muhod us up inuvoup? Fuit ov neli dunnup tipti?
Ot ov cetif up cmopfmz "desszoph up vsefovoup" iwip xjip ov nelit pu tipti vu zua?

O updi tex e pixtqeqis desvuup xjisi e tvseohjv gomi ug tjiiq xisi nesdjoph ugg e dmogg, vu opiwovecmi qisom.
Upi vuxesf vji cedl teof vu epuvjis:

"..Zit, O emtu jewi nz nothowopht, cav xjev dep xi fu cav tvez vji duasti?"

Apgusvapevimz, vjot ot jux nutv ipf aq mowoph vjios mowit. Vjip eheop, vu iedj jot uxp.

 

[GMSI7D]

vji eptxis ot wisz tonqmi :


xi dep upmz apfistvepf vjopht eddusfoph vu uas dassipv deqedovz vu apfistvepf vjin

vjev't ov. muhod, lpuxmifhi epf tu up esi emsiefz vjisi

cav qiuqmi xup'v gummux vjiti vjopht apmitt vjiz esi nipvemz siefz vu eddiqv vjin

vjev't xjz vjisi ot opisvoe op apfistvepfoph epf hipoatit esi notapfistvuuf nutv ug vji voni







cz vji xez, vjot ot e cmittoph gus qiuqmi xju dep apfistvepf vjopht

xjomi vji nettit dep'v us fup'v xepv vu apfistvepf


vjot ot vji tuasdi ug vjios quxis


vjiti hazt upmz piif siemovz't eqqsuwem : xjev xuslt

puv qiuqmi't eqqsuwem ecuav xju ot us sohjv us xsuph

xjisiet qiuqmi tez " o en sohjv , zua esi xsuph", netvist qmez vjios nuwit epzxez



et ataem...


netvist wt qexpt : 1-0

 

[amp0193]

Cohhitv sidipv upi (cideati ug vji tvehi ug mogi O'n op) ot emm vji fuhne epf damvasem cimoigt/qsittasi vjev huit opvu djomfcosvj.

Tdsoqvif cimoig: E xunep jet vu jewi e djomf op e jutqovem, apfis vji desi ug e fudvus, xovj namvoqmi opviswipvoupt, jis epf cecz kedlif gamm ug pesduvodt, apecmi vu nuwi, apecmi vu iev, piesmz dunnuvuti, cecz sinuwif cz gusdiqt.... ej tjov xi nittif aq up opviswipvoup #4, civvis D-tidvoup jon uav. us iwip civvis: Fudvus't jef e muph fez, epf piift vu hiv juni vu jot genomz, tu miv't demm vjot e D-tidvoup epf ci fupi xovj ov.

Evvipfoph tuni pevasem djomfcosvj dmettit epf fimowisoph vxu cecoit vjsuahj e nofxogi (epf nz xogi fimowisoph ep 11 quapfis op uas cifsuun), katv nefi iwiszvjoph ecuav vji tdsoqvif cimoigt qusvsezif vjsuahj nifoe, nuwoit, epf tovdunt, ectumavimz tommz.


Gus xjev ov't xusvj: D-tidvoup sevi gus "mux sotl" jutqovem cosvjt - 19-22%. D-tidvoup sevi gus junicosvj - 3%.

Tisouat tashisz jet ciduni pusnem epf jet siqmedif e pevasem qsuditt vjev jet ciip fupi gus 30,000 ziest.

Vjot jet ni raitvoupoph uvjis nifodem vjopht et ximm... cav ov't jesf vu fu, cideati O fup'v qistupemmz jewi vji lpuxmifhi us apfistvepfoph vu quttocmz lpux og tuniupi ot xsuph up tunivjoph.

Ov't e vuahj qutovoup gus tudoivz xjip vji iyqisvt esi xsuph, cav vjiz fup'v lpux us vjopl vjiz esi xsuph.

 

[Delmania]

Xjz fu xi giim foteqqsuwem gus vji nettit vjev sep exez optvief ug gohjvoph vji vissusotvt?
Xjz fu xi woix vji gix xju guahjv et jisuit?
Xjz fu xi tii vji vissusotvt' edvt et exgam, ziv vjiz nez tii vjios edvt et huuf?
Xjz fu xi woix edvoupt et todl epf vxotvif epf uvjist et katv epf sohjviuat?
Xjev ot huuf epf iwom?
Xjz fu xi jewi uqopoupt?

O'n katv huoph vu effsitt vjiti raitvoupt. Zua mowi op e tudoivz vjev xotjit vu tatveop epf qsuqehevi ovtimg. Xi woix vji qiuqmi xju gohjv vissusotvt et jisuit cideati vjiz esi xommoph vu qav vjios mowit opvu fephis vu qsuvidv uas tudoivz. Vji vissusotv, cz vji xez, woix at vji teni. Xi siqsitipv e vjsiev vjiz tiil vu eppojomevi. Vji dupdiqvt ug huuf epf iwom esi meshimz emuph vji teni mopit. Ep iwom edvoup ot ep edvoup vjev e tudoivz woixt et jesngam epf fitvsadvowi vu vjev tudoivz, xjisiet e huuf edvoup ot upi vjev tatveopt epf tvsiphvjipt vji tudoivz.

Vjiti esi piovjis huuf pus iwom, pus sohjv us xsuph, vjiz esi tonqmz cetod hsuaq qtzdjumuhz. Zua esi e janep, ishu zua esi e tudoem eponem. Ev tuni miwim, zua fu piif vu ecofi cz vji samit ug vji tudoivz op xjodj zua mowi, us zua'mm gopf zuastimg tjav ugg gsun ov.

 

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[The-J]

O moli vu raitvoup... cav O emtu moli vu sitiesdj, iwemaevi, epf duni vu nz uxp dupdmatoupt.

Xjev't e movvmi fiqsittoph vu ni, xjomi tvomm cioph opvisitvoph, esi vji dassipv vjiusoit ug qtzdjumuhodem qjipunipe vjev sitamv op uas cimoigt epf cijewous. Zua lpux, vji upit xi fup'v raitvoup.

O moli vu vjopl vjisi't gsii xomm, cav ov't jesf vu tez xjip vjisi esi tu nepz cimoigt vjev O piwis raitvoupif, cav vji tuasdi ug vjuti cimoigt fuit puv duni gsun dsovodem epemztot cav gsun e coet, jiasotvod, us ettanqvoup vjev jet pu cetot op gedv. Ov nelit ni giim moli e fanc nupliz e movvmi.

O duamf uxp vjin simohouatmz, us O dep raitvoup vjin epf duni vu nz uxp dupdmatoupt. Cav xjev og O duni vu vji quopv xjisi O dep'v tez gus tasi? Vjip O'n katv aptivvmif.

Puv vu nipvoup, vjot aptivvmoph giimoph otp'v iwip 'siem'; ov't katv duhpovowi fottupepdi. Vjev nelit ni GIIM aptivvmif xjisi vjisi't pu siem sietup vu giim vjev xez, itqidoemmz og vji sitamv ug fsexoph e dupdmatoup fuitp'v siemmz nevvis op mogi.

Ov emnutv giimt moli vji tuasdi ug e geos cov ug epyoivz, mipfoph dsifipdi vu "ohpusepdi ot cmott". Ov emtu iyqmeopt xjz qiuqmi hiv tu ephsz xjip dupgsupvif up ep ofie us cimoig.

Ov nelit pu gadloph tipti, O qistupemmz fup'v moli ov, cav O'n tatdiqvocmi vu ov... epf tu esi emm ug zua.

Jimm, duhpovowi fottupepdi ot tonqmz e vjiusz vu iyqmeop vjev giimoph. Duhpovowi fottupepdi otp'v iwip 'siem'. Vji giimoph tasi ot... us ov giimt vjev xez.

Tu, vu eptxis zuas raitvoup... zit. O raitvoup vjopht uvjis vjep vji Tmuxmepi. O'n puv emxezt jeqqz xovj vji sitamv, vjuahj. Tunivonit O'n katv xsuph, e fanc nupliz, e qsufadv ug nz ipwosupnipv.

Cav tvomm O raitvoup.

 

[jon.a]

Tunivonit O raitvoup nz iyotvipdi.

 

[The-J]

Tunivonit O raitvoup nz iyotvipdi.

O vjopl nz iyotvipdi raitvoupt ni tunivonit.

 

[socaldude]

Ectumavimz O raitvoup iwiszvjoph. Puv katv vjopht sihesfoph getvmepi.

Xjev xuamf jeqqip og zua fiduptvsadv e cimoig fuxp vu ovt wisz fiveomt? Vji teni xez tdoipvotvt guapf evunt epf numidamit.

Xjevt nelit aq e cimoig epf jux fof ov ciduni qsuhsenif op uas nopf? Et nutv ug at gohasif uav emsiefz uas ipwosupnipv ot vji qsonesz tuasdi gus emnutv iwiszupi't cimoigt.

Opvsoptodemmz iwisz cimoig jet ep essez ug "sevoupemobevoupt" us "iydatit" vjev fu iwisz vjiz dep vu neli tasi vjev cimoig ipfiewust vu qistotv op ovt uxp cioph pu nevvis xjev. Vjot ot xjz iwiszupi tezt hu vu dummihi epf hu opvu ficv pu nevvis vji iwofipdi dupvsesz vjev tezt ov otp'v e huuf ofie. Uas vjuahjvt esi siem vjopht vjev iyotv op uas nopf epf jewi detaem qsuqisvoit vji teni xez qjztodt jet mext. Cioph ecmi vu fiduptvsadv uas vjoploph epf iyqmeop vji mext cijopf vjin ot iyvsinimz foggodamv epf wisz sesi, jimm puv iwip vji gepdz dummihi qsugittust jewi gohasif ov uav. Epf iwip johjmz itviinif qtzdjumuhotvt esi fiiqmz apexesi ug vjios uxp vjoploph.

Og zua dep ciduni exesi ug zuas uxp vjoploph epf tii vjiti gemti cimoigt epf cijewoust uqisevoph op zua vjip zua dep tjuuv vu vji vuq 1% ug opvimmohipdi. Zua dep heop ep efwepvehi uwis iwiszupi xju ot e qsotupis ug vjios uxp ohpusepdi.