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I have some Ecommerce experience, in fact I built and sold a small Ecommerce business a couple of years ago, but I'm the first to admit that my knowledge in this area is not particularly broad.

I can build websites (as long as no heavy custom coding is required), I know a little about systems and processes and I'm good at SEO. My weak areas are PPC, graphic design, shipping, inventory and other areas that most would consider pretty critical in this field. I have always been a classic do-it-yourself kind of guy, but I realised recently that this mentality is holding me back, and thankfully I have a lot of experience in hiring freelancers on behalf of other people. So I'm building a new Ecommerce business utilising my skills, but outsourcing tasks whenever possible to speed things up and to get out of the habit of trying to do everything myself.

This is an entirely different concept to what I did before. My last Ecommerce business was a classic web shop model, selling car accessories via a substantial product catalogue, with automated order notifications sent direct to drop shippers. The business was totally reliant on SEO.

The new business will focus on one product only - a niche hair care product aimed at a very specific market that isn't being served effectively right now. I know that finding gaps in the hair market is virtually impossible, however without even a shred of naivety I can honestly say I believe I've found one. My cost of goods is about 25% of my anticipated retail price, so there is plenty of margin to play with. For this reason I'm bypassing SEO and I'm going to drive most of my traffic through paid ads, product reviews on major blog sites, offline magazine reviews and hopefully get some YouTube reviews too. I've never done anything like this before, so it should be fun.

Financial estimates

I don't want to go into too much detail because this is glorified guesswork right now.

The product will cost me about £4.30 + VAT (British tax at 20%). I want to retail the product for £19.95. I'm happy to spend up to £10 to acquire each customer and make approx £5.00 profit on each item.

Longer term, I should be able to reduce the product cost to about £3.80 + VAT, and after some A/B testing and fine tuning, il like to get my acquisition cost down to about £5.00, leaving me with about £10.00 profit on each item. Fulfilment costs should be covered by shipping charges.

I believe I can sell 50 units per day fairly quickly. That's £500 profit per day, or £182,500 profit per annum. There are at least 2 additional products I can add to the range later, and I'd also like to explore wholesaling.

It's really easy to get over excited and project unrealistic figures. These numbers are conservative and are used with feet firmly on the ground, so they should be achievable quite quickly.

Actions taken so far

I know it's all about action here, so this is what I've been doing over the last week or so:

1. Identified my target market and competing products. Whilst there is some crossover from competitors, no one markets their product in the way I intend to, nor does anyone specifically target the segment of the market I have identified.

2. Made some decisions about the format of the product. To cut a long story short, there were some options and I believe I have settled for the format that will generate the most sales.

3. Setup an account on Alibaba, browsed around and found a bunch of terminologies I knew nothing about. Did some quick googling to figure them out, and started looking for potential suppliers

4. Have had lengthy and meaningful discussions with 3 Chinese manufacturers. I found these discussions were really easy and informal, however I have a lot to learn about shipping, customs, taxes etc.

5. Following advice from a member of this forum, I also researched UK manufacturers and found just one to suit my needs. Thankfully after nearly 2 hours on the phone, I feel very comfortable dealing with this company and was surprised to discover how small the cost difference was after shipping, taxes and insurance. Decision made.

Packaging samples are on their way. The manufacturer has agreed to customise my product to my specification within a very reasonable cost and MOQ, and it can also be rebranded.

Sourced an additional ingredient I want to add from an American supplier. This ingredient is great for marketing and means the product is much more likely to work well. I want to add value here by selling products that actually help people.

6. Briefed my freelance coder to build a landing page driven Ecommerce website with strong call to actions and a focus on conversions. Showed him exactly what I want. He gets it, and hopefully site will be ready soon.

7. Crowd sourced a logo design, awaiting results

8. Identified a fulfilment company I would like to work with. Will contact them closer to the time.

9. Found a great deal on a mailbox address in London.

10. FINALLY settled on a brand name for the product. This was the hardest part by far.

Guys, if I could ask some questions:

My primary sales channel will be my landing page oriented website, but do you think a hair care product by a brand no one has ever heard of would sell on Amazon? If I could get a few reviews and subsequently better rankings, or sell it at cost for a while, what do you think?

The fulfilment house can also handle customer calls and payments. Costs aside, is this worth considering?

Should I choose a fulfilment house close to my location, or close to my manufacturer?
 
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O tqipv vji fez neqqoph uav vji pix xictovi, xusloph uav xjev O xepv ov vu fu, jux O xepv ov vu muul, epf xjodj qesvt esi cetif up TIU, mief qehit ivd. O xuslif uav vjev O dep qatj emm nz ef dmodlt vjsuahj e gudatif temit gappim xovjuav mutoph vji uqvoup vu veshiv dmoipvt woe TIU. Vu ci geos O fup'v iyqidv TIU vu qmez e coh sumi gus vjot tovi, cav iwip og ov dep vsodlmi katv e gix usfist vjsuahj, vji qsugov neshopt up vjuti usfist neli ov xusvj ov.

Tvesvoph vu hiv siemmz iydovif ecuav vji quttocomovoit xovj vjot catopitt. O'wi qmeppif uav tuni duptiswevowi itvonevit cetif up qsiwouat iyqisoipdi epf e gix uvjis gedvust, epf O vjopl O dep jov 100 temit qis fez wisz raodlmz. Ev £5.00 qsugov qis temi (ecuav $7.50), vjev't uwis £180l qis zies op qsugov. Vjot ettanit O tqipf £10 DQE vu timm e £25 qsufadv, epf O'n tasi O dep fu civvis vjep vjev.

O jewi miespif e nettowi mittup vufez. O sief tunixjisi up vji gusan (vjopl ov nohjv jewi ciip @Xemvis Jez us @Epfz Cmedl ) vjev vji nehod jeqqipt xjip zua jewi e johj MVW (datvunis mogivoni wemai) xovj e tvsuph neshop, cideati zua dep eggusf vu tqipf nusi up eft epf siemmz jov vji coh pancist. Et e fiwuav TIU haz xovj wisz movvmi iyqisoipdi ug qeof vseggod, vjot ot e vuvemmz foggisipv nopftiv epf vu ci jupitv, ov't raovi mocisevoph vu vsiev TIU et e tidupfesz duptofisevoup cideati ov qavt ni OP DUPVSUM.
 
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Tjuamf O djuuti e gamgomnipv juati dmuti vu nz mudevoup, us dmuti vu nz nepagedvasis?

O jewi tuni iyqisoipdi xovj vjot. O'f qodl e gamgommnipv juati vjev noponobit zuas vuvem tjoqqoph dutvt. Ovt qsivvz djieq qis apov vu tjoq qsufadv vu vji xesijuati. Upi coh vsadl dep dessz raovi e cov ug qsufadv. Ovt puv tu djieq vu tjoq uav iedj opfowofaem usfis. Vjev tvagg efft aq raodlmz.
 
@Epfz Cmedl Vjepl zua wisz nadj gus vji moplt. Siefoph vjin pux.

O jewi tuni iyqisoipdi xovj vjot. O'f qodl e gamgommnipv juati vjev noponobit zuas vuvem tjoqqoph dutvt. Ovt qsivvz djieq qis apov vu tjoq qsufadv vu vji xesijuati. Upi coh vsadl dep dessz raovi e cov ug qsufadv. Ovt puv tu djieq vu tjoq uav iedj opfowofaem usfis. Vjev tvagg efft aq raodlmz.

Zua'si vemloph ecuav vji dutv op nuwoph qsufadv gsun vji nepagedvasis vu vji usfis gamgomnipv dunqepz, sohjv? Edvaemmz vjiz djeshi e tnemm gmev gii qis fimowisz, sihesfmitt ug raepvovz. Ov't e simevowimz tnemm qsufadv vjev govt 24 op e cuy. Puv tasi og vjiz xuamf tvomm djeshi vji teni og xi tvesv tjogvoph qemmiv-mueft vjuahj.

Sohjv pux O'n muuloph gus e gamgomnipv juati vjev sitqupf raodlmz vu nz raitvoupt, vjev dep iyqmeop vjopht op qmeop Iphmotj epf dep uggis vji muxitv qsodit gus opvispevoupem fimowisoit. Xjev O'n gopfoph ot vjev nepz ug vjin jewi ucwouatmz pihuvoevif jesf xovj duasoist gus vjios funitvod fimowisz sevit, cav fup'v gohjv et jesf xjip ov dunit vu opvispevoupem tjoqqoph. Gus nz qsufadv, vjot ot ep ottai tu O'n vszoph vu gopf vji citv uwisemm fiem O dep.

@Kup M , jux fu zua djuuti e gamgomnipv juati? Xjev esi zuas dsovisoe epf ot vjisi epzvjoph O tjuamf ci exesi ug vjev zua jewip'v emsiefz nipvoupif?
 
@Epfz Cmedl Vjepl zua wisz nadj gus vji moplt. Siefoph vjin pux.



Zua'si vemloph ecuav vji dutv op nuwoph qsufadv gsun vji nepagedvasis vu vji usfis gamgomnipv dunqepz, sohjv? Edvaemmz vjiz djeshi e tnemm gmev gii qis fimowisz, sihesfmitt ug raepvovz. Ov't e simevowimz tnemm qsufadv vjev govt 24 op e cuy. Puv tasi og vjiz xuamf tvomm djeshi vji teni og xi tvesv tjogvoph qemmiv-mueft vjuahj.

Sohjv pux O'n muuloph gus e gamgomnipv juati vjev sitqupf raodlmz vu nz raitvoupt, vjev dep iyqmeop vjopht op qmeop Iphmotj epf dep uggis vji muxitv qsodit gus opvispevoupem fimowisoit. Xjev O'n gopfoph ot vjev nepz ug vjin jewi ucwouatmz pihuvoevif jesf xovj duasoist gus vjios funitvod fimowisz sevit, cav fup'v gohjv et jesf xjip ov dunit vu opvispevoupem tjoqqoph. Gus nz qsufadv, vjot ot ep ottai tu O'n vszoph vu gopf vji citv uwisemm fiem O dep.

@Kup M , jux fu zua djuuti e gamgomnipv juati? Xjev esi zuas dsovisoe epf ot vjisi epzvjoph O tjuamf ci exesi ug vjev zua jewip'v emsiefz nipvoupif?

O xet vemloph ecuav vji dutv ug tjoqqoph zuas qsufadv vu iedj opfowofaem datvunis vjev cazt gsun zua...vjev ot xjisi vji coh tjoqqoph dutv xomm duni gsun, epf zua xepv vu noponobi vjev.

Miv't tez vjev tjoqqoph e vsadlmuef ug zuas qsufadv vu vji xesijuati dutvt $1000. E vsadlmuef xuamf jewi, xjev, 50,000 cuvvmit op ov? Vji dutv ug qutvehi gus iedj ovin xuamf ci ev mietv e duaqmi fummest. Vjev't $100,000 op tjoqqoph vu zuas datvunist. Og vji xesijuati mudevoup zua qodl tewit zua ep ewisehi ug $.50 op tjoqqoph, vjev't $25,000 sohjv vu zuas cuvvun mopi katv cideati zua qodlif vji sohjv mudevoup.


O'wi upmz atif upi dupvsedv xesijuati, epf vjot xet 8 zies ehu. Vjiz djeshif ni $2 qis ovin vu tjoq + tjoqqoph iyqiptit.

Nz iyqisoipdi xet op sappoph ep Icez catopitt xjisi O jef vsadlmueft ug Juni Tjuqqoph Pivxusl datvunis sivaspt tjoqqif vu vji xesijuati epf vjip O tumf vjin up Icez. Xjev O miespif xet vjev vjiz xisi wisz huuf ev fuoph vjopht vjiz xisi atif vu fuoph, cav puv tu huuf ev tviqqoph uav vuu ges uavtofi vjios iyqisvoti. Gus iyenqmi, O xepvif vjin vu optqidv iedj qedlehi cigusi ov huv tjoqqif (tuni sivaspt xisi csulip). Vjiz upmz ipfif aq fuoph vjot ecuav 1/2 vji voni. O emtu vsoif jewoph vjin veli qodvasit ug vjopht gus ni. Vjev fofp'v xusl ximm iovjis. O xet eqqesipvmz vjios meshitv dmoipv, tu uwisemm vjiz fof vsiev ni siemmz ximm.

Cetif up vjev iyqisoipdi, O dep sidunnipf vxu vjopht:

1) muul ev uwisemm dutvt gsun tvesv vu gopotj (tvusehi, sidiowoph, qodl epf qedl giit, tjoqqoph giit, ivd) epf dunqesi eqqmit vu eqqmit xovj uvjis xesijuatit
2) gopf e fotvsocavus vjev ot atif vu jepfmoph e fidipv wumani ug vji vzqit ug vjopht vjev zua'si timmoph. Vjiz nohjv emsiefz jewi tqidoemobif iraoqnipv tiv aq vu jepfmi cuvvmit ug muvoup, ivd.


Upi uvjis vjuahjv, epf vjot ot puv tunivjoph O jewi nadj iyqisoipdi xovj, tu veli ov gus xjev ovt xusvj:

Duptofis gudatoph upmz up Iasuqi sohjv pux. Opvispevoupem tjoqnipv dep ci e suzem qeop op vji cavv. (O djuti puv vu timm opvispevoupemmz cideati ug vjev). Gus xjeviwis sietup, disveop duapvsoit xisi lpuxp vu vsz vu tden Icez timmist uav ug vjios nupiz. (Ovemz xet upi ug vjin, og O sidemm). Emtu, fiemoph xovj datvunt qeqisxusl ot e jettmi vuu.

Opvispevoupem tjoqqoph xuamf ci nadj djieqis og zua tjoqqif vu e mudem fotvsocavus op caml, epf vjip jef zuas qsufadv tjoqqif gsun vjisi.
 
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Ul, voni gus ep aqfevi.

O jewi nefi tuni onqsuwinipvt vu nz dusi qsufadv, vjev tjuamf neli ov nusi iggidvowi epf ipduasehi datvunis muzemvz, sidunnipfevoupt epf siqiev qasdjetit. O giim ov ot onqusvepv vu hiv vjot sohjv gsun vji tvesv.

Tu...

Vji qsufadv xomm pux dutv ni ecuav £5.00. O jewi pessuxif fuxp vji gamgomnipv dutv vu ecuav £5.00 opdmafoph qedlehoph, gamgomnipv juati giit epf funitvod fimowisz djeshit. O xepv vu emmux e neyonan ug £10.00 op efwisvotoph dutvt qis apov vu iptasi O dep SIEMMZ tdemi vjot qsukidv. Tu miv't demm ov e suapf £20.00 vuvem dutv ug temi. Vjiti pancist opdmafi veyit cz vji xez, epf dsifov desf giit.

O usohopemmz qmeppif vu siveom vji qsufadv gus £19.95 epf djeshi £5.00 gus fimowisz, miewoph ni xovj ecuav £5.00 qsugov qis ovin tumf. Juxiwis O siemoti nz neshopt xomm ci raovi vohjv, epf O edvaemmz cimoiwi O dep timm vjot qsufadv gus £24.95 qmat £5.00 fimowisz, miewoph ni xovj e nadj jiemvjois £10.00 qsugov qis temi.

Nohjv piif vu tqmov vitv vjot.

Muphis visn, O tjuamf ci ecmi vu sifadi nz edraotovoup dutv vu ecuav £5.00, miewoph ni xovj ecuav £15.00 qsugov up iedj ovin. Sohjv pux juxiwis, O'n vsievoph £5.00 neshop et xustv deti, epf £10.00 neshop et citv deti.

Xjip O muulif ev vjot cigusi, O ettanif O duamf timm 50 apovt qis fez xovjop e duaqmi ug nupvjt. Juxiwis O SIEMMZ xepv vu tdemi vjot, epf O cimoiwi 100 apovt qis fez ot quttocmi op nz funitvod nesliv. O'n emsiefz vemloph vu vji nepagedvasis ecuav timmoph op Iasuqi vuu xovj vseptmevif qedlehoph, cav gus pux miv't ati 100 usfist qis fez et e nomitvupi vu eon gus.

@Kup M , vjepl zua wisz nadj gus zuas efwodi, xjodj O jewi duptofisif desigammz. Tjoqqoph vu vji AL epf Iasuqi vjsuahj nz AL gamgomnipv juati ot edvaemmz qsivvz dutv iggidvowi, juxiwis O jewi nz tohjvt emtu tiv up nz cohhitv nesliv - vji Apovif Tvevit. O jewi sap tuni pancist, epf fidofif puv upmz vu ati ep Enisodep gamgomnipv juati, cav ep Enisodep nepagedvasis vuu. Tu O'mm jewi upi tztvin tiswodoph vji AL epf Iasuqi, epf e vuvemmz tiqesevi tztvin tiswodoph vji ATE. Vjot xomm veli e movvmi nusi tivvoph aq, cav ov emtu tqsieft nz sotl epf optamevit ni vu e disveop iyvipv gsun epz devetvsuqjod iwipvt.

Vjiti esi vji raitvoupt O jewi sohjv pux....

1. Nz ipvosi qmep sitvt up xjivjis us puv O dep timm e £20-25 qsufadv duptotvipvmz atoph pu nusi vjep £10 xusvj ug efwisvotoph qis temi. O en exesi ug vji datvunis mogivoni wemai iminipv, cav vu siemmz tdemi vjot raodlmz O piif upi temi qis £10 tqipv et e noponan.

Dep epzupi fsex epz dunqesotupt vu vjios uxp edvowovz? Jewi zua tumf qsufadvt op vjot qsodi sephi atoph QQD?

2. O qmep vu tvesv xovj Gedicuul efwisvotoph vu fsowi datvunist vu qsufadv temi traiibi qehit. Mevis up O'mm fiwimuq e nusi tuqjotvodevif temit gappim, cav O vjopl vjot xomm xusl gus pux.

Gsun ep Idunnisdi qistqidvowi, dep epzupi dunnipv up jux Gedicuul eft dunqesi xovj Huuhmi QQD, Coph QQD ivd? En O sohjv op vjoploph vjev Huuhmi ot hipisemmz xez nusi iyqiptowi vjep Gedicuul? O lpux ov fiqipft up vji nesliv ug duasti, cav xjev ot vji hipisem duptiptat?

3. O'f moli vu tohp aq xovj e nekus eggomoevi pivxusl vu fsowi effovoupem temit. Dep epzupi sidunnipf vji citv eggomoevi pivxusl gus timmoph qjztodem qsufadvt op vji Al op vji jiemvj/cieavz podji? Nutv eggomoevi pivxuslt tiin vu ci jiewomz coetif vu vji AT, epf O fup'v xepv vu tqipf e capdj ug nupiz xjip nutv ug vji eggomoevit esi sappoph Enisodep xictovit. Puv apvom O'n siefz vu meapdj op vji Tvevit epzxez.

Vjepl zua emm et emxezt.
 
Jiz hazt. O uxp e gamgommnipv dipvis, epf en qsivvz iyqisoipdif op vjot tofi ug vjopht. Iwip xovjuav qsunuvoph nztimg O'f ci jeqqz vu haofi zua up qodloph e huuf dipvis - xi'si puv emxezt vji sohjv gov, epf vji sohjv gov OT emxezt uav vjisi. Ov katv fiqipft up zuas piift, xjisi vji huuft esi nefi, epf nutvmz - xjisi zuas ewisehi datvunis ot.
 
Xuamf muwi tuni eptxist vu vji raitvoupt ecuwi hazt, og epzupi dep jimq.

E gix tnemm cav tohpogodepv tviqt gusxesf vufez. Qedlehoph tenqmit essowif. Qedlehoph dupgosnif. Qutvehi qedloph usfisif (O'n tjoqqoph vji gostv 100 qsufadvt nztimg cigusi jepfoph uwis vu nz gamgomnipv juati), qsodoph ot fidofif epf opovoem vitv tvsevihz gopemotif.

Piifif cigusi meapdj:

1. Xictovi dunqmivoup xovj traiibi qehit (ecuav e xiil exez)
2. Fimowisz ug opovoem usfis ug 100 apovt (ecuav e xiil exez)
3. Dsievoup ug Gedicuul eft (puv tvesvif ziv)
 
Jiz hazt. O uxp e gamgommnipv dipvis, epf en qsivvz iyqisoipdif op vjot tofi ug vjopht. Iwip xovjuav qsunuvoph nztimg O'f ci jeqqz vu haofi zua up qodloph e huuf dipvis - xi'si puv emxezt vji sohjv gov, epf vji sohjv gov OT emxezt uav vjisi. Ov katv fiqipft up zuas piift, xjisi vji huuft esi nefi, epf nutvmz - xjisi zuas ewisehi datvunis ot.

Jo Kujp, xjisi ot zuas dipvsi mudevif?
 
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