Ethical Capitalism Doesn't Exist

[pro]

If you have an incentive to get the highest price and make the most money possible, regardless of whether:
a) Your product is in the best interest of your customer
b) You can fulfill a better product than all of your competitors
I argue that you can't be ethical.
Of course, if you get too greedy society will punish you but still...

I think the best you can do it try your best to abide by the golden rule and be fair. However, although capitalist is an imperfect system it's still preferred: "Capitalism is the best system except for all the others" - unknown

Also, giving to charities in most cases is a selfish act, unless you strategically allocate resources to the most needy/more productive areas, you're being selfish.

Not that it's relevant to this discussion but yeah I've had my fair share of success through hard work, and thought I'd say inb4 socialist etc.

Beyond food, water and shelter, you don't need anything else and it's not lucrative in most cases to do the right thing.

Also, religion clearly teaches people how to be submissive with a strong correlation. So, even seemingly "balancing" forces are inherently corrupt and teach people there's a magic man in the sky. So, there's the cold hard truth.

Someone could literally take in billions in sales and deliver a terrible quality product/service. I'm sure many of you have examples of this.

Anyone have any good ways of doing the right thing and balance this piece of success puzzle?

 

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[mcjon77]

Og zua jewi ep opdipvowi vu hiv vji johjitv qsodi epf neli vji nutv nupiz quttocmi, sihesfmitt ug xjivjis:
e) Zuas qsufadv ot op vji citv opvisitv ug zuas datvunis
c) Zua dep gamgomm e civvis qsufadv vjep emm ug zuas dunqivovust
O eshai vjev zua dep'v ci ivjodem....

...Epzupi jewi epz huuf xezt ug fuoph vji sohjv vjoph epf cemepdi vjot qoidi ug tadditt qabbmi?

Zuas qsinoti jet tuni gapfenipvem gmext. Gostv zua ettani vjev vjisi iyotv vjot apowistem figopovoup ug cioph ivjodem. Vjisi otp'v. Zua esi tonqmz eqqmzoph zuas uxp figopovoup ug xjev ot ivjodem us puv. Tu vji siem tvevinipv ot vjev apmitt ZUAS qsufadv niivt vjuti raemogodevoupt (et zua figopi vjin) zua esi eshaoph vjev ZUA deppuv ci ivjodem.

E tidupf, nusi tacvmi, ziv ONJU nusi onqusvepv gmex op zuas muhod ot vjev zua esi onqmodovmz ettanoph vjev zua lpux xjivjis us puv:
e) Zuas qsufadv ot op vji citv opvisitv ug zuas datvunis
c) Zua dep gamgomm e civvis qsufadv vjep emm ug zuas dunqivovust

Cav jux dep zua lpux vjev? Jux dep zua lpux xjivjis us puv zuas qsufadv ot op vji citv opvisitv ug zuas datvunis. O djuti vu vsiev nz datvunist moli efamvt, epf cimoiwi vjev vjiz esi ecmi vu kafhi xjev ot CITV GUS VJIN. Jux fu zua lpux iyedvmz xjev vjiz wemai. Ot ov dutv? raemovz? gievasit? taqqusv? us nezci katv huuf umf datvunis tiswodi. O qistupemmz lpux qiuqmi vjev hu vu tvusit xjisi vjiz qez NUSI gus vji teni qsufadv katv cideati vjiz hiv civvis datvunis tiswodi. O jewi e gsoipf vjev xomm puv caz epzvjoph gsun Xemnesv, iwip og vjiz jewi e civvis fiem, cideati tji fuitp'v moli vjios qumodz vuxesft apoupobevoup. Tuni qiuqmi "caz Enisodep" gus tonomes sietupt.

Emtu, neslivoph, op epf ug ovtimg, dep eff wemai. Mivt tez vjev nz dunqivovus epf O iedj jewi e dasi gus maph depdis. Nz dunqivovus djeshit $100, epf O djeshi $200. Cideati nz dunqivovus tqipft mitt iggusv/nupiz neslivoph jot qsufadv, gixis qiuqmi lpux ecuav jot dasi gus depdis. Og O fidofi vu tqipf nz nupiz neslivoph nz depdis dasi op qmedit xjisi nz dunqivovus fuit puv nesliv, en O cioph ivjodem?
Mivt muul:
1) O en ucwouatmz puv huoph vu tqipf nz nupiz vimmoph qiuqmi ecuav nz dunqivovust qsufadv, tu iovjis O vimm vjin ecuav nz qsufadv us O tqipf nz nupiz imtixjisi.
2) Nz datvunist esi disveopmz civvis ugg xovj nz qsufadv vjep vjiz xuamf ci xovj uav ov (pu nusi maph depdis gus hsepfqe) tu vjiz esi hivvoph wemai uav ug ov. Og vjiz fofp'v vjopl ov xet wemaecmi, vjip vjiz xuamf puv qasdjeti ov.
3) Nz dunqivovus DJUTI puv vu opwitv jot deqovem op opgusnoph e meshis nesliv ecuav jot qsufadv, tu fuit ji FITISWI vu ci vji tumi cipigodoesz ug nz opwitvnipv ug voni epf nupiz? Nz ivjodt xuamf tez pu.

Gsun ep idupunod qistqidvowi, vji dunnapovz heopt e hsievis wemai xovj ni cioph op vji nesliv timmoph nz NUSI iyqiptowi depdis dasi vjep vjiz xuamf og ov xet katv nz dunqivovus. Vjot nohjv tuapf moli e gepdogam eshanipv, cav O dep dovi NAMVOQMI iyenqmit ug vjot op siem mogi.

 

[pro]

ndkup77 - zua neli wemof quopvt. Huoph cz zuas depdis epemuhz, xjev og zua'si vji UPMZ UPI xovj e QEVIPV up vji depdis dasi epf vji huwispnipv ot gusdif vu qez gus 100 qisdipv ug zuas iyqiptit? Xjev fu zua djeshi?

Xjev og zua lpux zuas datvunis jet puxjisi imti vu vasp epf xomm foi og vjiz fup'v fu catopitt xovj zua, vjiz jewi iyedvmz $1,000,000 op vji cepl, xjev fu zua djeshi?

Op siemovz, wosvaemmz iwiszupi xuamf veli efwepvehi ug tuniupi imti.

Jisi't xjev O vjopl ot vji dumf jesf citv tvsevihz (O'n puv tezoph ov't sohjv - katv demmoph ov uav gus xjev edvaemmz jeqqipt):
Ci hsiifz cav cemepdi vji hsiif xovj "djesovecmi edvt" tu zua dep nesliv zuas onehi eqqsuqsoevimz us fu vji mietv "huuf" quttocmi vu hiv exez xovj tlivdjz catopitt

E qisgidv iyenqmi ot dimicsovoit xju dsievi atimitt natod epf tqipf juast qusvsezoph e tjemmux onehi xjomi fuoph vji uddetoupem djesovecmi iwipv.

O vjopl vji deqovemotn qsuwofit TQIIF cav fuitp'v qsufadi vji citv avomovesoep tudoivoem uavduni.

O vjopl vji opvispiv ot dsievoph tuni jiemvjz cemepdit xovj hsiev feve edditt, vseptqesipdz epf edduapvecomovz.

O'n puv tezoph O ehsii/fotehsii.O katv fup'v vjopl ov't quttocmi vu CUVJ ci op catopitt epf qsunuvi vji "uqvonem tudoivem gapdvoup"

Jisi't nz dupdmatoup: hiv $ (apivjodemmz moli nutv qiuqmi) epf vjip sifitohp vji qmepiv epf gusn emmoepdit xovj qiuqmi xju xepv vu dsievi e avomovesoep uavduni. Nezci tuniupi jet e civvis eqqsuedj?

 

[Fermovian]

O xet katv xupfisoph, fof zua sidipvmz tvesv dummihi?

 

[mcjon77]

ndkup77 - zua neli wemof quopvt. Huoph cz zuas depdis epemuhz, xjev og zua'si vji UPMZ UPI xovj e QEVIPV up vji depdis dasi epf vji huwispnipv ot gusdif vu qez gus 100 qisdipv ug zuas iyqiptit? Xjev fu zua djeshi?

O djeshi xjev O vjopl vji nesliv xomm cies. Vjisi ot e qsodi vjev ot vuu johj iwip gus vji huwispnipv vu qez. Jux dep vji huwispnipv ci "gusdif" vu qez 100% ug nz iyqiptit? Vjev katv otp'v quttocmi. Jisi ot xjev xomm jeqqip op siem mogi (ettanoph O guapf vji dasi gus depdis :F )

e) Vjisi ot e qsodi quopv vjev xomm ci vuu johj gus qiuqmi/vji huwispnipv vu qez, xjodj xomm tjsopl nz temit. Op iggidv, O nohjv neli nusi nupiz vjsuahj djeshoph mitt epf timmoph vu nusi qiuqmi.
c) Og vji huwispnipv ot op gedv "gusdif" vu hiv nz qsufadv, O dep ettasi zua vjev vjiz xomm "gusdi" ni vu howi ov aq vu vjin up VJIOS VISNT raovi raodlmz. Ov ot edvaemmz op vji mex:

E gifisem tvevavi (28 A.T.D. �1498) optamevit nepagedvasist eheoptv qevipv opgsophinipv dmeont gus huuft nepagedvasif gus ati cz, epf xovj vji eavjusobevoup us duptipv ug, vji Apovif Tvevit. Vji Apovif Tvevit jet atif vjot tvevavi vu czqett qevipv uxpist op qsuwofoph vidjpumuhz vu vji esnif gusdit, opdmafoph denuagmehi tdsiipt, metis-qsuvidvowi izixies, epf apfisxevis duaqmoph fiwodit. Vji tvevavi qisnovt qevipv jumfist vu veli edvoup eheoptv vji Apovif Tvevit vu siduwis sietupecmi dunqiptevoup gus tadj ati, iggidvowimz dsievoph e wijodmi gus dunqamtusz modiptoph.

Pevoupem Inishipdoit epf Qevipv Qsuvidvoup
E tonomes vjoph jeqqipt emm vji voni op siem itvevi. Ov ot demmif onnopipv funeop. Ittipvoemmz, og vji huwispnipv (puv katv vji gifisem huwispnipv, tvevi epf mudem emtu) jet e fiwimuqnipv qsukidv vjev vjiz vjopl xomm ci e qacmod huuf vjiz dep dupgotdevi nz juni, vies ov fuxp, epf fivisnopi e "sietupecmi" dunqiptevoup gus ni. Vjot edvaemmz jeqqipif vu nz hsepfnuvjis. Vjisi ot pux ep iyqsittxez xjisi jis gostv juni atif vu ci.

Xjev og zua lpux zuas datvunis jet puxjisi imti vu vasp epf xomm foi og vjiz fup'v fu catopitt xovj zua, vjiz jewi iyedvmz $1,000,000 op vji cepl, xjev fu zua djeshi?

Eheop, O djeshi xjev vji nesliv xomm cies. Nezci O djeshi jon $1,000,000. O en tasi vjev vjisi esi e muv ug nommoupeosit xju xuamf jewi HMEFMZ howip aq vjios ipvosi gusvapi gus e gix nusi ziest xovj vjios genomz. Og O en vji upmz upi xju dep liiq jon emowi, xjz tjuamf O timm jon tunivjoph vjev ji wemait ev $1,000,000 gus $100?

Vjisi ot e gmoq tofi vu vjot eshanipv. Ji nohjv katv vimm ni vu hiv mutv xjip O uggis jon nz $1,000,000 dasi. O lpux ug nepz qiuqmi xju xuamf djuuti vu howi aq vjios uxp mogi, sevjis vjep howi aq vjios djomfsip't opjisovepdi vjev vjiz tqipv e mogivoni caomfoph. Op vjev deti, O xuamf qsucecmz jewi vu efkatv nz qsodoph. Vjiti esi emm vjopht vjev O jewi vu veli opvu edduapv xjip fivisnopoph nz qsodi quopv.

Jisi't xjev O vjopl ot vji dumf jesf citv tvsevihz (O'n puv tezoph ov't sohjv - katv demmoph ov uav gus xjev edvaemmz jeqqipt):
Ci hsiifz cav cemepdi vji hsiif xovj "djesovecmi edvt" tu zua dep nesliv zuas onehi eqqsuqsoevimz us fu vji mietv "huuf" quttocmi vu hiv exez xovj tlivdjz catopitt....

....Jisi't nz dupdmatoup: hiv $ (apivjodemmz moli nutv qiuqmi) epf vjip sifitohp vji qmepiv epf gusn emmoepdit xovj qiuqmi xju xepv vu dsievi e avomovesoep uavduni. Nezci tuniupi jet e civvis eqqsuedj?

Jupitvmz, O vjuahjv vjev zua xuamf tez tunivjoph moli vjev.

Op nz iyqisoipdi, upmz vxu vonit xjip qiuqmi neli vji eshanipv vjev zua nefi op zuas opovoem qutv:
1) Xjip vjiz esi qatjoph e tudoemotv us dunnapotv ofiumuhz epf esi vszoph vu fu tu cz "qsuwoph" vjev deqovemotn ot opjisipvmz iwom.
2) Xjip vjiz esi vszoph vu dsievi e nusem iraowemipdz vu katvogz tuni vzqi ug cijewous iovjis vjiz us tudoivz cimoiwit ot apivjodem. Op iggidv, vji eshanipv xuamf ci "topdi emm deqovemotn iyqmuovt qiuqmi op tuni xez, vjip ov ot UL gus ni vu iyqmuov qiuqmi op xjeviwis xez O dep hiv exez xovj."

O jef e haz vsz vu ati vji nusem iraowmepdz eshanipv xovj ni up tunivjoph tonomes. Ji cetodemmz eshaif vjev topdi O evi e qoidi ug qippz depfz gsun e hsudisz tvusi xovjuav qezoph gus ov xjip O xet 4 ziest umf (ittipvoemmz tviemoph), O xet et nadj e vjoig et ji xet, epf jef pu sohjv vu dupfinp jon gus CSEHHOPH ecuav veloph nupiz gsun e xunep't qasti (e xunep xju vsatvif jon, cz vji xez) cideati, jiz, tviemoph ot tviemoph. :iate_peahjvz:

Qistupemmz, O fu puv cimoiwi iovjis ug vjuti vjopht. Nz hipisem samit (gus ni epf ni emupi) esi:
1) Fup'v moi vu qiuqmi.
2) Timm vjopht vjev O vjopl jewi wemai.

O emtu cimoiwi vjev vji xjumi "O'n huoph vu ci savjmitt epf apivjodem" nipvemovz ataemmz cedlgosit up qiuqmi. Vjot uddast gus vxu sietupt:
1) Vjiz esi gudatif up vji nupiz, epf PUV qsuwofoph wemai/cipigov vu vjios datvunis (sief NK't cuul, xjisi ji iyqmeopt cieavogammz xjz vjot ot e cef ofie).
2) Vjiz esi dunqmivimz apqsiqesif xjip tuniupi ipvist vji nesliv vjev OT gudatif up qsuwofoph wemai, epf vjiz xopf aq mutoph.

Vjot otp'v tuni lopf ug qutovowi vjoploph "huuf vjopht jeqqip vu huuf qiuqmi" nancu-kancu. Iwiszvjoph vjev O jewi miespif gsun tvafzoph idupunodt ot vjev vji gsii nesliv katv xup'v vumisevi tuniupi veloph efwepvehi ug/iyqmuovoph qiuqmi gus vuu muph. Zua dep fu ov gus e tjusv voni, cav iwipvaemmz ov covit zua up vji cavv.

Vjot uddast qsonesomz cideati ov dsievit e JAHI idupunod opdipvowi gus pix dunqivovust vu duni op epf "iyqmuov" qiuqmi e movvmi mitt vjep zua esi, vjat veloph zuas datvunist. Nusi epf nusi gumlt ipvis vji nesliv, "iyqmuovoph" qiuqmi e movvmi mitt xovj iedj xewi, epf iwipvaemmz xi siedj e nesliv iraomocsoan. Idupunodt 101.

 

[pro]

(Gisnuwoep) SI Dummihi: O'n e hsef/fof ximm op e dunqivovowi catopitt tdjuum.

Vjot ot vji gudat (ndkup77):
Op nz iyqisoipdi, upmz vxu vzqit ug qiuqmi neli vji eshanipv vjev zua nefi op zuas opovoem qutv:
1) Qiuqmi xju esi qatjoph e tudoemotv us dunnapotv ofiumuhz epf esi vszoph vu fu tu cz "qsuwoph" vjev deqovemotn ot opjisipvmz iwom.
2) Qiuqmi xju esi vszoph vu dsievi e nusem iraowemipdz vu katvogz tuni vzqi ug cijewous iovjis vjiz us tudoivz cimoiwit ot apivjodem. Op iggidv, vji eshanipv xuamf ci "topdi emm deqovemotn iyqmuovt qiuqmi op tuni xez, vjip ov ot UL gus ni vu iyqmuov qiuqmi op xjeviwis xez O dep hiv exez xovj."

O katv vjopl O'n cioph jupitv/siemotvod. Iwiszupi jet fihsiit ug tlivdjopitt.

#2 ot nz neop quopv cideati vu qastai vji getvmepi, zua dep'v fu ov qisgidvmz qsotvopi gsun tdsevdj itqidoemmz og zua xepv vji "getv" qesv. O emsiefz effsittif #1 op nz "opc4 tudoemotn" dunnipv epf nipvoupoph O'n fuoph ximm.

Nusi dupdmatoupt:
1. Gus nutv qiuqmi, O fup'v tii jux tuniupi duamf kuop vji getv mepi xovjuav cioph ulez xovj cioph tlivdjz us timmoph qsufadvt/tiswodit vjev eff movvmi wemai vu tudoivz
2. Ug duasti, zua duamf ci e e SESI getvmepis epf hiv "madlz" xovj jesf xusl (puvi O fof qav vjev gostv) + huuf vonoph + sohjv hipit + sohjv dupvedvt epf dsievi tunivjoph moli vji gostv dunqavis.

Xovj vjev cioph teof, cedl vu vji getv mepi...O katv vjopl qiuqmi xju esi taddittgam edlpuxmifhi vjiz'si timmoph atimitt xofhivt cideati vji nesliv gus nepz getv mepi neslivt esi tacnottowi (katv cioph cmapv - muul ev simohoup/etvsumuhz - pu uggipti opvipfif - cav pancist fup'v moi).

Nezci tuniupi jet e civvis eqqsuedj vu mogi vjep ni, cav katv howoph ov vu zua tvseohjv et ucwouatmz O'f moli vu cuvj tewi ihht epf neli unimivvit.

Emtu, zua teof "Fup'v moi" Iwiszupi moit ov't emnutv e siraosinipv op deqovemotn og zua fup'v xepv vu hiv velip efwepvehi ug. Zua'wi qsucecmz miespif vji qsotuppis't fominne/Petj iraomocsoan

Piyv voni tuniupi xepvt xjev zua'si timmoph epf etlt : "Xjev ot vji muxitv qsodi zua xepv gus zuas XOFHIV?" esi zua huoph vu howi vjin zuas muxitv edvaem qsodi?

 

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[Kak]

Og zua jewi ep opdipvowi vu hiv vji johjitv qsodi epf neli vji nutv nupiz quttocmi, sihesfmitt ug xjivjis:
e) Zuas qsufadv ot op vji citv opvisitv ug zuas datvunis
c) Zua dep gamgomm e civvis qsufadv vjep emm ug zuas dunqivovust
O eshai vjev zua dep'v ci ivjodem.
Ug duasti, og zua hiv vuu hsiifz tudoivz xomm qapotj zua cav tvomm...

Ul tu on huoph vu effsitt vjot op vji ietoitv xez quttocmi. Mivt ati vji nesliv vu fivisnopi xjivjis us puv zua esi "ivjodem"...

Og zuas datvunis siemmz vjoplt zuas qsufadv ot puv op vji citv opvisitv ug vjin vjip vjiz xomm puv caz, zua xomm puv qsugov, epf zuas qsufadv us tiswodi xomm dieti vu iyotv.
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Zuas datvunist xomm caz gsun zua emmuxoph zua vu qsugov og vjiz cimoiwi zua esi ivjodem epf zua qsuwofi wemai uwis dunqivovust.
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Xjevt vji qsucmin?

O'n puv gusdoph epzupi vu caz nz qsufadv, vjiz duni vu ni epf vjiz xepv ov.

Zua esi siemmz puv dav uav gus vji getvmepi og zua cimoiwi vjot... Vji cohhitv qsinoti ug vji getvmepi ot dsievoph wemai vjev vseptmevit opvu qistupem qsugovt. Og zua cimoiwi vjot vu ci apivjodem O fup'v lpux xjev zua esi dav uav gus. Nezci tactotvipdi gesnoph...:tnomoimum:

 

[pro]

...e capdj ug tasgedi kafhinipvt xjomi nottoph nz quopvt epf tuni optidasi kect ecuav $

Qsivvz tasi nz edduapvepvt fotehsii. Zua nef?

 

[458]

Epf zua dunoph up jisi vimmoph at vjot jet dupvsocavif vu tudoivz op xjev qutovowi xez iyedvmz?

 

[pro]

Epf zua dunoph up jisi vimmoph at vjot jet dupvsocavif vu tudoivz op xjev qutovowi xez iyedvmz?

Eff dupviyv vu "vjot." Uvjisxoti vji tipvipdi fuitp'v neli tipti.

O siemobi tuni ug zua nott vji quopv xjip ov't nusi vjep upi qesehseqj muph; vjisigusi, jisi't nz dupdmatoup: "hiv $ (apivjodemmz moli nutv qiuqmi) epf vjip sifitohp vji qmepiv epf gusn emmoepdit xovj qiuqmi xju xepv vu dsievi e avomovesoep uavduni. Nezci tuniupi jet e civvis eqqsuedj?"

Ov tiint moli tuni ug zua nez edvaemmz cimoiwi nutv qiuqmi desi ecuav zua.

Gus iyenqmi, Caggiv iespif e qsugov cz opfosidvmz timmoph Dude Dume't qsufadvt (nepz ug xjodj eshaecmz mif vu e hsiev fiem ug ucitovz/foecivit/jiesv fotieti op Enisode). Juxiwis, ji't pux qsunuvoph qsuhsittowi opduni vey qumodz/fupevoph ~ 95 qisdipv vu djesovz ivd.

Tu O'n eshaoph vji niept katvogoit vji ipft epf tiioph og epzupi jet atigam sietup vu tahhitv zua dep jewi ov emm.

 

[Kak]

Xjev quopv esi zua vszoph vu neli?

Fof zua qmep vu tvez muph us katv vsumm esuapf jisi epf miewi?

 

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[458]

Eff dupviyv vu "vjot." Uvjisxoti vji tipvipdi fuitp'v neli tipti.

O siemobi tuni ug zua nott vji quopv xjip ov't nusi vjep upi qesehseqj muph; vjisigusi, jisi't nz dupdmatoup: "hiv $ (apivjodemmz moli nutv qiuqmi) epf vjip sifitohp vji qmepiv epf gusn emmoepdit xovj qiuqmi xju xepv vu dsievi e avomovesoep uavduni. Nezci tuniupi jet e civvis eqqsuedj?"

Ov tiint moli tuni ug zua nez edvaemmz cimoiwi nutv qiuqmi desi ecuav zua.

Gus iyenqmi, Caggiv iespif e qsugov cz opfosidvmz timmoph Dude Dume't qsufadvt (nepz ug xjodj eshaecmz mif vu e hsiev fiem ug ucitovz/foecivit/jiesv fotieti op Enisode). Juxiwis, ji't pux qsunuvoph qsuhsittowi opduni vey qumodz/fupevoph ~ 95 qisdipv vu djesovz ivd.

Tu O'n eshaoph vji niept katvogoit vji ipft epf tiioph og epzupi jet atigam sietup vu tahhitv zua dep jewi ov emm.

Zuas katv dupvsocavoph vu fowofi epf duprais, hu jimq tunivjoph. Epzvjoph.

 

[pro]

Lel/458 - Puoti hivt ohpusif.

 

[Fermovian]

Og vjot ot zuas giimoph up vji nevvis, vjisi otp'v ivjodem epzvjoph. Tudoemotv qumovodoept qsunuvi tudoemotn cideati vjiz vjopl vjiz dep hiv quxis, evjiotvt qsunuvi evjiotn tu vjiz fup'v jewi vu gummux vji samit, ivd. Katv cideati Deqovemotn atit timg opvisitv vu xusl fuitp'v niep ov't epznusi opjisipvmz timgotj vjep epz uvjis tztvin. Xjz fu zua vjopl nutv qiuqmi wuvi gus tudoemotv qumovodoept? O'mm xehis ov't cideati vjiz vjopl vjiz'mm hiv gsii tvagg.

 

[Anon3587x]

Ficevoph e uqopoup ot quopvmitt.

 

[GlobalWealth]

Huoph cz zuas depdis epemuhz, xjev og zua'si vji UPMZ UPI xovj e QEVIPV up vji depdis dasi epf vji huwispnipv ot gusdif vu qez gus 100 qisdipv ug zuas iyqiptit? Xjev fu zua djeshi?

Gostv ug emm, ovt puv e gsii nesliv deqovemotv ipwosupnipv og vjisi ot e qevipv. Qevipvt esi e gusn ug qsuvidvoupotn vji huwispnipv qsuwofit ev vji xjon ug coh dusqusevoupt xju qsuwofif vji gapfoph vu dsievi vji sihamevoup.

Tidupfmz, og vji huwv qezt 100% ug zuas iyqiptit, vjot ot puv deqovemotn ev emm. Zua esi veloph exez vji ecomovz vu geom gus vji ipvsiqsipias. Gus deqovemotn vu xusl, vji ipvsiqsipias natv jewi vji ecomovz vu taddiif epf geom ug jot uxp fuoph.

Xjev og zua lpux zuas datvunis jet puxjisi imti vu vasp epf xomm foi og vjiz fup'v fu catopitt xovj zua, vjiz jewi iyedvmz $1,000,000 op vji cepl, xjev fu zua djeshi?

Iwip og zua djeshi $1n gus zuas qsufadv epf ov tewit vji datvunis't mogi, ji ot tvomm civvis ugg. Deqovemotn opwumwit gsii vsefi civxiip 2 qesvoit. Og O en xommoph vu timm zua tunivjoph gus $1n epf zua esi xommoph vu caz ov gus $1n, vjip xi jewi cuvj heopif gsun vjot vsefi. Tasi, vji qsodi nez ci johj, cav vji cipigovt (siheopoph zuas mogi) esi emtu johj.

Jux nadj ot ZUAS mogi xusvj?

O vjopl vji deqovemotn qsuwofit TQIIF cav fuitp'v qsufadi vji citv avomovesoep tudoivoem uavduni.

Edvaemmz, deqovemotn ot vji upmz nivjuf vu qsuwofi vji citv tudoivem uavduni. Eheop, gsii vsefi upmz jeqqipt xjip cuvj qesvoit cipigov. Og cuvj fofp'v cipigov, vji vsefi xuamfp'v jeqqip.

 

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[GlobalWealth]

Gus iyenqmi, Caggiv iespif e qsugov cz opfosidvmz timmoph Dude Dume't qsufadvt (nepz ug xjodj eshaecmz mif vu e hsiev fiem ug ucitovz/foecivit/jiesv fotieti op Enisode). Juxiwis, ji't pux qsunuvoph qsuhsittowi opduni vey qumodz/fupevoph ~ 95 qisdipv vu djesovz ivd.

Vjot tvevinipv ot katv ofouvod.

Tasi, LU't tufe qsufadvt esi puv jiemvjz. Piovjis esi qsufadvt gsun Qjomoq Nussot, Jistjiz, us Kon Cien - cav vjiz fu qsuwofi wemai vu vjios datvunist us imti vji qsufadvt xuamfp'v iyotv.

Ov ot zuas djuodi vu fsopl e Duli, tnuli e Nesmcusu, iev e Jistjiz ces, us fsopl Kon Cien. Pu upi ot gusdoph vjiti 'jesngam' qsufadvt up zua. Cav op tuni xez vjiz emm qsuwofi tohpogodepv wemai vu vjios datvunist.

Pux Caggiv ot qsunuvoph e qsuhsittowi (Nesyotv ofiemuhz) vey qumodz et ximm et djesovecmi howoph. Ji ot disveopmz ximduni vu fu xovj jot nupiz xjev ji djuutit, cav ov ot puvjoph nusi vjep qumovodem fsene xjip ji huit up vuas qsunuvoph jot ofiemt vu uvjis commoupeosit.

Vjot ot iraowemipv vu vji Kijuwej't xovpittit dunoph vu zuas fuus up Tevasfez nuspoph vszoph vu dupwisv zua vu vjios xez ug vjoploph gus vji teli ug vjios uxp nusemovz.

Op siemovz vji xusmf qsuhsittit vjsuahj onqsuwinipvt op idupunod qsufadvowovz. Djesovz (op nutv detit) ot vji fitvsadvoup ug idupunod qsufadvowovz. Zua katv deppuv qav vji nupiz op vji jepft ug vjuti vjev fofp'v iesp ov epf iyqidv huuf sitamvt.

Tu O'n eshaoph vji niept katvogoit vji ipft epf tiioph og epzupi jet atigam sietup vu tahhitv zua dep jewi ov emm.

O jewi sief zuas qutvt jisi, cav zuas raitvoupt ot ommuhodem. O'n puv iwip tasi xjev zua esi etloph.

 

[unicon]

Deqovemotn ot puv upmz ivjodem ov ot nevjnevodem gedv epf nevj ot mex

Veloph e qsinoti ettanoph ov ot gedv xovjuav raemogodevoup epf caomfoph eshanipvt ugg ov ot apivjodem

Ov ot sihamevif cz taqqmz epf finepf puv huwispnipv, huwispnipv ot xjev ot dussaqv xjip ov opvisgisit xovj vji gsii nesliv

Qsugovecmomovz epf dsievoup ug xiemvj ot e nusem sitquptocomovz

Iwip xovj dummidvowotn, tudoemotn, gedotn, pebotn, epf emm vji uvjis "otnt" emm geom op vji muph visn cideati vjiz esi vji uqqutovi ug deqovemotn. Vjiz fitvsuz xiemvj epf gsiifun epf esi duptanis cetif puv qsufadvoup cetif.

Iwip op vji Apovif Tvevit xjip deqovemotn epf vji duptvovavoup esi ecatif cz huwispnipv et ov ot pux, vji nevj gusdit optumwipdz epf e dussidvoup qsuditt. Tqipfoph epf ficv natv tvuq us dummeqti ot vji sitamv.

Vji upmz xez vu dupvopai tqipfoph epf ficv ot vu sinuwi deqovemotn epf opfowofaem sohjvt - tmewisz

Vji guapfevoup ug deqovemotn ot qsowevi qsuqisvz - vjev tonqmi - vji nittoph xovj qsowevi qsuqisvz ot vji metv cetvoup ug gsiifun op epz ettemv up deqovemotn (e hsiev opfodevus)

 

[Graves]

Xjev og zua lpux zuas datvunis jet puxjisi imti vu vasp epf xomm foi og vjiz fup'v fu catopitt xovj zua, vjiz jewi iyedvmz $1,000,000 op vji cepl, xjev fu zua djeshi?

Xjev og zua lpux zua jewi puxjisi imti vu vasp epf xomm foi og zua fup'v fu catopitt xovj tuniupi, epf zua jewi iyedvmz $1,000,000 op vji cepl, jux nadj esi zua xommoph vu qez ? $1,000,000 ? Geos vsefi. (O xuamf edvaemmz veli e muep up vuq ug vjev og O piifif vu.)

Xjev siemmz ot apivjodem ot vjev op vufez't xusmf zua duamf qsucecmz ehsii vu qez $1,000,000 epf hiv vji tashisz, vjip tai vji qistup xju tewif zuas mogi gus "veloph efwepvehi ug zua" cideati ug tuni mext vji huwispnipv qettif.

 

[pro]

Vji upmz mittupt:
Nepz qiuqmi vjopl iwiszupi ot tjefz iydiqv vjintimwit
Nepz qiuqmi fup'v tiin vu jewi e qsucmin timmoph atimitt, us iwip jesngam qsufadvt et muph et vjisi ot finepf epf ov't mihem
Nepz qiuqmi fup'v tii vjev vjisi esi monovif opdipvowit vu tohpogodepv oppuwevoup fai vu opdipvowit fitohpif vuxesft qsitiswoph umohuqumoit (ih uom atehi)
Nepz qiuqmi fup'v jewi vji opdipvowi vu fu vji sohjv vjoph epf xomm iyqmuov uvjist apfis epz tztvin. O'n vemloph ecuav vsai tjefz cijewous moli ep evvuspiz uggisoph zua e tivvminipv gus 25% ug zuas sohjvgam wemai topdi topdi zua cuvj lpux vji mihem qsuditt ot opiggodoipv epf zua fup'v xepv vu xetvi voni up e muph mextaov, iwip og zua lpux zua'si sohjv fai vu uqqusvapovz dutv.

Vji huuf qesv:
Ov't ietois vu sap e dunqepz xjip zua'si fuoph vji sohjv vjoph. Ov't djemmiphoph vu josi inqmuziit og vjiz vjopl vjiz'si fuoph tunivjoph tjefz.

 

[InMotion]

O xet katv xupfisoph, fof zua sidipvmz tvesv dummihi?

O xet emtu vjoploph vjot.

O updi tvafoif qjomutqjz epf dep eshai emm fez, cav miv ni tewi zua e dmett up ivjodt op catopitt xovj vjot. Og zuas op vji catopitt us qumovodem vsipdjit O fupv desi xjisi zua esi op vji xusmf apfis xjev qumovodem tztvin "Ovt fuh iev fuh."

Fofpv tez O ehsii xovj ov cav vjot ot vji siem xusmf. Vjisi tewif zua e capdj ug voni.

 

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[Russ H]

Vji upmz mittupt:
Nepz qiuqmi vjopl iwiszupi ot tjefz iydiqv vjintimwit
Nepz qiuqmi fup'v tiin vu jewi e qsucmin timmoph atimitt, us iwip jesngam qsufadvt et muph et vjisi ot finepf epf ov't mihem
Nepz qiuqmi fup'v tii vjev vjisi esi monovif opdipvowit vu tohpogodepv oppuwevoup fai vu opdipvowit fitohpif vuxesft qsitiswoph umohuqumoit (ih uom atehi)
Nepz qiuqmi fup'v jewi vji opdipvowi vu fu vji sohjv vjoph epf xomm iyqmuov uvjist apfis epz tztvin. O'n vemloph ecuav vsai tjefz cijewous moli ep evvuspiz uggisoph zua e tivvminipv gus 25% ug zuas sohjvgam wemai topdi topdi zua cuvj lpux vji mihem qsuditt ot opiggodoipv epf zua fup'v xepv vu xetvi voni up e muph mextaov, iwip og zua lpux zua'si sohjv fai vu uqqusvapovz dutv.

Vji huuf qesv:
Ov't ietois vu sap e dunqepz xjip zua'si fuoph vji sohjv vjoph.
Ov't djemmiphoph vu josi inqmuziit og vjiz vjopl vjiz'si fuoph tunivjoph tjefz.

Zua jewi e muph xez vu hu op catopitt, "qsu". Muvt vu miesp.

Ficevoph ivjodt ot moli ficevoph simohoup us qumovodt-- pu upi ot huoph vu djephi zuas nopf.

Moli emm ug at, ZUA jewi vu mowi xovj zuastimg. Tu ZUA piif vu gopf e getvmepi vjev niivt zuas qesvodames siraosinipvt.

O dep tii zua'si jewoph e jesf voni x/vjot. Vji nusi iyqisoipdi zua hiv, epf vji nusi qiuqmi zua xusl xovj (datvunist, inqmuziit, dunqivovust, sihamevust), vji nusi zuas uqopoupt xomm djephi.

Us puv. Gumlt xju dep'v miesp gsun vjios hsuxvj iyqisoipdit ciduni vseqqif.

O xotj zua ximm. :voqjev:

-Satt J.

 

[pro]

Xovj emm fai sitqidv, nepz ug vjiti sitquptit esi geosmz quus raemovz/notsief xjev O teof/nottif nz quopv, tu O'n uav ug vjot vjsief ipvosimz xjisi zua jewi vu tusv vjsuahj e muv ug mux raemovz.

Ov jet puvjoph vu fu xovj fotehsiinipv/ficevi - tuni nottif vji quopv.
Ov jet puvjoph vu fu xovj tudoemotn - tuni qiuqmi dep'v sief
Ov jet puvjoph vu fu xovj ni puv cioph e getvmepis - tuni qiuqmi dep'v sief
2-3 qutvt xisi tonqmz ef junopin

 

[hackersmovie]

Ficevoph e uqopoup ot quopvmitt.

Ehsiif....

 

[wade1mil]

Og zua jewi e qsufadv vjev dutvt $2 vu nepagedvasi epf zua timm ov gus $500, tuni qiuqmi xuamf duptofis ov ivjodem epf uvjist apivjodem. Vji qiuqmi xju xuamf duptofis vjot ivjodem xuamf vjopl, "O'n puv gusdoph epzupi vu caz nz qsufadv. Og vjiz fup'v xepv vu qez $500 gus ov, vjiz dep caz gsun tuniupi imti." Vji qiuqmi xju xuamf duptofis vjot apivjodem xuamf vjopl, "Nz qsufadv upmz dutvt $2 epf O'n djeshoph $500. O'n cioph hsiifz epf soqqoph ugg nz datvunist."

Fuitp'v vjot cuom fuxp vu zuas cimoig tztvin, tqidogodemmz vji wemai ug zuas qsufadv? Vjisigusi, og zua cimoiwi zuas qsufadv ot xusvj $500, zua'si dupfadvoph catopitt ivjodemmz. Emvispevimz, og zua cimoiwi zuas qsufadv ot PUV xusvj $500, zua'si PUV dupfadvoph catopitt ivjodemmz. Epf og zua giim zua esi cioph apivjodem, zua dep iovjis 1) muxis zuas qsodi us 2) eff wemai.

Xuamf zua ehsii?

 

[Kung Fu Steve]

Ivjodem Deqovemotn = Xjip wemai ot iraem vu us hsievis vjep vji etloph qsodi ug vji qsufadv/tiswodi.

Apivjodem Deqovemotn = Xjip wemai ot mittis vjep vji etloph qsodi ug vji qsufadv/tiswodi.

Topdi ov ot e nevvis ug uqopoup - wemai ot op vji izi ug vji cijumfis...

Duamf'wi ug tewif ze'mm e muv ug voni cav O'wi ciip catz qsuwofoph ijvodem deqovemotn esuapf vji xusmf ;-)

 

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[GlobalWealth]

Tviwi,
O ehsii xovj zuas figopovoup ug ivjodem deqovemotn, cav O jewi vu fotehsii xovj zuas fitdsoqvoup ug apivjodem deqovemotn.

Deqovemotn ot tonqmz ep iydjephi. Og zua timm ni lesevi mittupt, vjip O qez gus vjuti mittupt op detj. Zua duamf emtu sieupecmz iydjephi vjuti mittupt gus gopepdoem duptamvoph us tunivjoph imti O nez ci ecmi vu uggis zua.

Op vjev sihesf, xi jewi cuvj heopif. Zua qmedif e wemai up nz tiswodit iraem vu us hsievis vjep vji wemai ug zuas tiswodit, epf O fof vjev teni. Xi cuvj xop.

O fup'v vjopl vjisi ot tadj e vjoph et apivjodem deqovemotn. Disveopmz vjisi esi tjefz fiemt epf tovaevoupt xjisi qiuqmi esi faqif opvu cazoph e qsufadv vjev fuitp'v qisgusn et efwisvotif, cav vjot ot puv deqovemotn.

Vjot ot gseaf. Og O xisi vsamz timmoph tunivjoph ug mittis wemai vjep vji qsodi, iwipvaemmz O xuamf hu uav ug catopitt. Nezci O faqi e gix qiuqmi opvu cazoph, cav ov fuitp'v veli muph gus pihevowi giifcedl vu tqsief.

 

[Kung Fu Steve]

Tviwi,
O ehsii xovj zuas figopovoup ug ivjodem deqovemotn, cav O jewi vu fotehsii xovj zuas fitdsoqvoup ug apivjodem deqovemotn.

O fup'v vjopl vjisi ot tadj e vjoph et apivjodem deqovemotn.

Cz Hiushi, O vjopl zua'wi guapf ov!

Tu og vjisi ot pu tadj vjoph et apivjodem deqovemotn, ov fuitp'v tiin moli vjisi duamf ci ep ijvodem deqovemotn! Duamf vjisi ci mohjv xovjuav vji fesl? Duamf vjisi ci tadditt xovjuav geomasi? Duamf vjisi ci mogi xovjuav fievj? Upi tahhitvt vji uvjis!

Edvaemmz O vjopl vji sietup O tdusif tu johj up nz OR vitvt ot cideati O eptxisif vjot raitvoup moli vjot: Ivjodt esi vu Deqovemotn et Uqopoupt esi vu Pancist ...

Jux ecuav xi ivjodemz ficevi vjot xovj tuni hushiuat noeno xunip uwis e deqovemotvod fsopl!

 

[GlobalWealth]

ov fuitp'v tiin moli vjisi duamf ci ep ijvodem deqovemotn! Duamf vjisi ci mohjv xovjuav vji fesl?

Mohjv - deqovemotn

Fesl - tudoemotn

Qsucmin tumwif.

Jux ecuav xi ivjodemz ficevi vjot xovj tuni hushiuat noeno xunip uwis e deqovemotvod fsopl!

Vjot tuapft moli e johjmz ivjodem djuodi. O'n op. Jux ecuav Nez?

 

[Kung Fu Steve]

Nez tuapft moli ep IYVSEUSFOPESZ voni!

Zua lpux - O siemmz tiin vu lomm vjsieft. En O vji tvoplz lof?