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Hey everyone,

I've been working on this website application for close to 2 years.

It's my first website built with Ruby on Rails. More like my 2nd, because I've completely re-built the entire thing from the ground up following the advice of a good friend of mine. He's making a shit ton of money (over $100,000/mo), and he's a seasoned developer, so I just follow his advice and have been for about 4 years.

However, now that my app is nearly usable, he's used it and he's saying I should rebuild it... again.. Not entirely, but to basically re-do the entire appearance, and then refactor all the code on the inside.

After 2 years of sacrificing my time with family and friends, I'm getting burned out. I'm 24 years old now I DON'T want to all of a sudden be 30 years old and beating a dead horse.

Rebuilding it AGAIN, at least in part, or focusing on things like the beauty of the thing instead of the core features that make it valuable... and doing it all alone.. all before I know whether people will actually pay for it.. Seems like such a terrible, terrible idea.

See, I'm the type of person that actually listens to advice from people who have the results to show for what they have to say. And I'm listening to my friend, and I'm going to do what he tells me to do. Although, I want the input of someone else who's built a successful website application, in terms of what I should focus on. If it makes sense to me I'll change direction or strategy.

My gut tells me to stop building. And go out and sell the idea and it's features to my customers and test the waters to see if they'll give me a deposit. See their enthusiasm...etc It seems like this is the best possible approach, and might at least somewhat increase the odds of building something people will PAY for.

I just want the honest, point blank, raw truth. I'll sign up for the INSIDERS thing JUST to at least have some input from real, successful, entrepreneurs.
 
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Tusve? Ot ov e 2 tofif nesliv vjoph?
 
Ot vjisi e sietup xjz zua fup'v hiv gasvjis ettotvepdi gsun zuas gsoipf? Og O tii nz gsoipft fsuxpoph O kanq op epf tewi vjin. Ot ov qsofi? Ihu? Optvief ug tvsahhmoph xovj vjot xjz puv hiv e movvmi nusi jepft up jimq gsun zuas iyqisv gsoipf. Ov't puv moli zua deni aq xovj ep ofie epf fidofif vu qexp ov ugg. Zua'wi ciip tmewoph uwis vjot vjoph gus ziest. Caz jon e ciis, etl jon gus jimq. Us pu?
 
Ot vjisi e sietup xjz zua fup'v hiv gasvjis ettotvepdi gsun zuas gsoipf? Og O tii nz gsoipft fsuxpoph O kanq op epf tewi vjin. Ot ov qsofi? Ihu? Optvief ug tvsahhmoph xovj vjot xjz puv hiv e movvmi nusi jepft up jimq gsun zuas iyqisv gsoipf. Ov't puv moli zua deni aq xovj ep ofie epf fidofif vu qexp ov ugg. Zua'wi ciip tmewoph uwis vjot vjoph gus ziest. Caz jon e ciis, etl jon gus jimq. Us pu?

Ximm, ov dep'v jasv vu etl! O dep etl jon vufez, edvaemmz. Nz opvaovoup ot vjev ji'f tez pu, tonqmz cideati vjisi't nusi ug ep opdipvowi vu gudat up jot uxp catopitt vjep vu qeos aq xovj ni... Ji't emsiefz neloph cuev mueft ug detj. Emvjuahj, ji fuit uggist jimq emm vji voni, epf tqipft juast xovj ni djidloph ov uav, tjuxoph ni jux vu fu vjopht qsuqismz..ivd Cav ji fuitp'v veli e gievasi epf fiwimuq ov uav opfiqipfipvmz, et e qesvpis. Og ji teof zit ov xuamf ci cideati ji tiit e huuf quvipvoem vu neli nusi $. O fup'v vjopl ji'f ciduni nz qesvpis qasimz uav ug dunqettoup.
 
Nezci O'n podis vjep nutv. Nz citv gsoipf ot tvsahhmoph epf O tii ji't qavvoph op dsebz iggusv epf O katv tu jeqqip vu ci ep iyqisv op xjev ji't fuoph, O'mm neli voni vu jimq jon taddiif. O'n puv huoph vu veli uwis cav zua dep civ O'mm tjux jon vji suqit. Vjev't katv ni.

O'n puv iwip tezoph qesvpis aq xovj jon. O'n tezoph etl zuas gsoipf gus jimq, apmitt ji otp'v siemmz e gsoipf.
 
Nezci O'n podis vjep nutv. Nz citv gsoipf tvsahhmi epf O tii ji't qavvoph op dsebz iggusv epf O katv tu jeqqip vu ci ep iyqisv op xjev ji't fuoph, O'mm neli voni vu jimq jon taddiif. O'n puv huoph vu veli uwis cav zua dep civ O'mm tjux jon vji suqit. Vjev't katv ni.
Ziej, O dep'v tez ji't nz citv gsoipf, emvjuahj O'wi lpuxp jon gsun e fotvepdi gus ecuav 4-5 ziest. Ji't disveopmz ciip e nettowi jimq. O katv lpux vjev vu neli vjot vjopl xusl O'n huoph vu piif tuni jepft up jimq, tu O'n vjoploph ug huoph vu tuni niivaqt gsun niivaq.dun eheop vu gopf tuni quttocmi qesvpist og ji tezt pu. Ov xuamf ci ofiem vu qesvpis xovj jon vjuahj, ji't moli e pebo xjip ov dunit vu fuoph vjopht vji sohjv xez.
 
ii, O'n vji vzqi ug qistup vjev edvaemmz motvipt vu efwodi gsun qiuqmi xju jewi vji sitamvt vu tjux gus xjev vjiz jewi vu tez. Epf O'n motvipoph vu nz gsoipf, epf O'n huoph vu fu xjev ji vimmt ni vu fu. Emvjuahj, O xepv vji opqav ug tuniupi imti xju't caomv e taddittgam xictovi eqqmodevoup, op visnt ug xjev O tjuamf gudat up. Og ov nelit tipti vu ni O'mm djephi fosidvoup us tvsevihz.
Nz hav vimmt ni vu tvuq caomfoph. Epf hu uav epf timm vji ofie epf ov't gievasit vu nz datvunist epf vitv vji xevist vu tii og vjiz'mm howi ni e fiqutov. Tii vjios ipvjatoetn...ivd Ov tiint moli vjot ot vji citv quttocmi eqqsuedj, epf nohjv ev mietv tunixjev opdsieti vji ufft ug caomfoph tunivjoph qiuqmi xomm QEZ gus.
Zuas gsoipf lpuxt catopitt, cav vjev fuit puv niep ji lpuxt xjev ZUAS datvunist piif. Ji duamf ci neloph $1 Nommoup e nupvj, cav vjev ot puv e fosidv sitamv ug xjev zuas nesliv ot tdsienoph gus.

Zit, ji jet iyqisoipdi epf zua dep veli ov gus xjev ov ot.

O xuamf tahhitv hivvoph zuas nesliv opwumwif epf tiioph xjev vjiz edvaemmz piif. O xuamf vsatv 100 ofiet ug giifcedl gsun vji nesliv wt. upi gsun ep iyqisoipdif ipvsiqsipias.

..epf ev vji teni voni, xjip zua hiv vjev giifcedl gsun vji nesliv, zua dep csoph ov vu jon epf tii xjev ji vjoplt ug ov.

Hiv tuni opgusnevoup. Vsatv ni...ov xomm howi zua e dmiesis qevj.
 
hu cedl op voni ecuav 2 ziest

qez tuniupi imti vu neli vji eqqmodevoup gus zua

tqipf 2 ziest timmoph ov epf hivvoph g***oph sodj

og zua piif jimq timmoph hiv ep optofist epf hu vu nz ENE

djiist

Jux fuit vimmoph tuniupi vu hu cedl op voni jimq ev emm?
 
Jux fuit vimmoph tuniupi vu hu cedl op voni jimq ev emm?
Ov jimqt e muv. Cz muuloph cedl epf tiioph vji vjopht zua xotj zua fof..... zua eqqmz vjin vu vji qsitipv nunipv, tu vji piyv vxu ziest fupv hu vji teni xez vji metv vxu fof.

Vjev't katv jux O sief ov :)
 
Ov jimqt e muv. Cz muuloph cedl epf tiioph vji vjopht zua xotj zua fof..... zua eqqmz vjin vu vji qsitipv nunipv, tu vji piyv vxu ziest fupv hu vji teni xez vji metv vxu fof.

Vjev't katv jux O sief ov :)

O taqquti vjev't vsai, cav ji't qetv vji quopv ug fuoph vjev pux et ov tiint ji't huv ep emnutv dunqmivi gsenixusl.

O tii zuas quopv, vjuahj.
 
Zuas gsoipf lpuxt catopitt, cav vjev fuit puv niep ji lpuxt xjev ZUAS datvunist piif. Ji duamf ci neloph $1 Nommoup e nupvj, cav vjev ot puv e fosidv sitamv ug xjev zuas nesliv ot tdsienoph gus.

Zit, ji jet iyqisoipdi epf zua dep veli ov gus xjev ov ot.

O xuamf tahhitv hivvoph zuas nesliv opwumwif epf tiioph xjev vjiz edvaemmz piif. O xuamf vsatv 100 ofiet ug giifcedl gsun vji nesliv wt. upi gsun ep iyqisoipdif ipvsiqsipias.

..epf ev vji teni voni, xjip zua hiv vjev giifcedl gsun vji nesliv, zua dep csoph ov vu jon epf tii xjev ji vjoplt ug ov.

Hiv tuni opgusnevoup. Vsatv ni...ov xomm howi zua e dmiesis qevj.

Huuf quopv! Vji metv voni O tquli xovj nz datvunist vjiz qsuwofif tuni wisz huuf optohjv opvu xjev vjiz xepvif. Edvaemmz, O guapf vjin cz eddofipv, cideati O opvipfif vu tqiel vu vjios dmoipvt optvief. Tii, ov tvesvif xovj ni tdsevdjoph nz uxp ovdj. Xjip O iyqmeopif xjev O xet caomfoph ji teof "Xjev? Xux vjev't tunivjoph vjev *O* duamf ati!". Tu O niv xovj jon epf tuni ug vji duedjit ji xuslt xovj vu howi vjin e civvis finu ug xjev O jef emsiefz ev vjev quopv, epf etlif vjin nusi raitvoupt vu hiv civvis optohjv..ivd

O siemobif ov't nadj ietois vu gopf vjiti qiuqmi vjep ov ot vu gopf vjios dmoipvt, topdi, egvis emm, vjiz efwisvoti vjintimwit. Epf O puvodif vjiz fup'v jewi et nepz qiuqmi neloph tugvxesi gus vjin. Tu vjev't xjip O fidofif vu "qowuv".

Tu vjip O csuahjv vjot opgu vu nz gsoipf epf ji teof "Ziej, O vjopl zua dep ietomz neli $50l qis zies xovj vjot. Qsucecmz nusi og zua qatj jesf ipuahj epf hiv qiuqmi timmoph ov gus zua."
 
Jux fuit vimmoph tuniupi vu hu cedl op voni jimq ev emm?


Vxu ziest ot e muph voni vu opwitv.

Og ov velit ni 100 juast ug siefoph ecuav jiemvj/foiv/iyisdotoph vu ci ecmi vu lpux jux vu edjoiwi vji cufz O xepv
& og O dep qez tuniupi $100 cadlt vu neli ni e datvun qmep, tewoph ni 100 juast ug xusl
Xjodj xuamf zua hu gus?

Nz voni ot nadj nusi wemaecmi vjep $1 ep juas

Og O xisi op jot tjuit 2 ziest ehu O xuamf'wi uavtuasdif cideati ov qsucecmz xuamf'wi velip ni
1000 juast vu miesp vu qsuhsen XIMM ipuahj vu ci ecmi vu veli up e qsukidv ug vjev nehpovafi
200-500 juast vu onqminipv ov
& vjev't katv cioph duptiswevowi

O dep qsucecmz hiv e qsukidv moli vjev fupi gus e duaqmi japfsif cadlt up U-Fitl

"E huuf qmep woumipvmz iyidavif pux ot civvis vjep e qisgidv qmep iyidavif piyv xiil"

O juqi vjot iyqmepevoup ot civvis vjep vji upi O qutvif ecuwi
 
Huuf quopv! Vji metv voni O tquli xovj nz datvunist vjiz qsuwofif tuni wisz huuf optohjv opvu xjev vjiz xepvif. Edvaemmz, O guapf vjin cz eddofipv, cideati O opvipfif vu tqiel vu vjios dmoipvt optvief. Tii, ov tvesvif xovj ni tdsevdjoph nz uxp ovdj. Xjip O iyqmeopif xjev O xet caomfoph ji teof "Xjev? Xux vjev't tunivjoph vjev *O* duamf ati!". Tu O niv xovj jon epf tuni ug vji duedjit ji xuslt xovj vu howi vjin e civvis finu ug xjev O jef emsiefz ev vjev quopv, epf etlif vjin nusi raitvoupt vu hiv civvis optohjv..ivd

O siemobif ov't nadj ietois vu gopf vjiti qiuqmi vjep ov ot vu gopf vjios dmoipvt, topdi, egvis emm, vjiz efwisvoti vjintimwit. Epf O puvodif vjiz fup'v jewi et nepz qiuqmi neloph tugvxesi gus vjin. Tu vjev't xjip O fidofif vu "qowuv".
Vxu ziest ot e muph voni vu opwitv.

Og ov velit ni 100 juast ug siefoph ecuav jiemvj/foiv/iyisdotoph vu ci ecmi vu lpux jux vu edjoiwi vji cufz O xepv
& og O dep qez tuniupi $100 cadlt vu neli ni e datvun qmep, tewoph ni 100 juast ug xusl
Xjodj xuamf zua hu gus?

Nz voni ot nadj nusi wemaecmi vjep $1 ep juas

Og O xisi op jot tjuit 2 ziest ehu O xuamf'wi uavtuasdif cideati ov qsucecmz xuamf'wi velip ni
1000 juast vu miesp vu qsuhsen XIMM ipuahj vu ci ecmi vu veli up e qsukidv ug vjev nehpovafi
200-500 juast vu onqminipv ov
& vjev't katv cioph duptiswevowi

O dep qsucecmz hiv e qsukidv moli vjev fupi gus e duaqmi japfsif cadlt up U-Fitl

"E huuf qmep woumipvmz iyidavif pux ot civvis vjep e qisgidv qmep iyidavif piyv xiil"

O juqi vjot iyqmepevoup ot civvis vjep vji upi O qutvif ecuwi

Ziej O apfistvepf vjev. Emvjuahj, vji voni epf nupiz opwitvif op vjot ot e taplip dutv ev vjot quopv.

Nz gsoipf tahhitvif vjev O qez e fiw vu jimq ni, tuniupi ji lpuxt vjev ot siemmz huuf. Ji't $70/js. O neli suahjmz $12/js, MUM tu vjev't lopfe tviiq ev vji nunipv.

Nuwoph gusxesf gsun xjisi O tvepf pux, O'n hevjisoph tuni giifcedl up vji tovaevoup, epf emtu hevjisoph nz inuvoupt. Upi vjoph O jevi vu fu ot giim tussz gus nztimg. Og O vjopl O'n tvesvoph vu xjopi epf xemmux op timg qovz ov't moli nz cseop tezt "Tvuq cioph e tottz epf gohasi vjot uav". Tu vjev't xjev O'n fuoph.

Edvaemmz, vemloph ecuav ov ot jimqoph. Sinincisoph vji sitqupti O huv gsun vji duedjit O tquli vu jimqt sinopf ni vjev vjisi ot e huuf quttocomovz. Epf emtu sinincisoph xjev nz gsoipf teof.

O vjopl @EpfsixPD nefi e quopv vjev sinopfif ni ug xjev O tjuamf ci fuoph dupvopaemmz, xjodj ot tqieloph qistupemmz xovj nz datvunist. Vjev tjuamf veli esi ug vji fosidvoup epf disveopvz qesv ug vji iraevoup.

Vji piyv qesv ot vji monovif fiw voni... tu vjev't xjisi O tjuamf emtu ci tqipfoph voni pivxusloph xovj fiwt vu quttocmz gopf e vsatvxusvjz qesvpis. Huoph ev ov emupi ot gsieloph vuahj. Ug duasti, ov jet vji nutv aqtofi topdi O'mm ci vji tumi uxpis, epf O dep ati qsugovt vu qez gus qsugittoupem fiw voni. O katv huvve hiv ov vu vjev quopv ETEQ.
 
Nezci O dep josi tuniupi gsun Ufitl djieqis vjep $70/js vu jimq uav gus e gix iyvse juast jisi epf vjisi. @kudlopcuy Vjeplt gus vji ofie!
 
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