finding a deal?? SFH

[tiredofworkin]

I have gotten back into the rental market ( I hope) as I hope to find a good deal. I am a previous land lord of 10 years and did pretty well at it, then sold out at the top of the market, about 2 years ago.

So I have kinda started hunting the foreclosures and REO's, so far just about all are price at FMV if you add in repairs and rehabilitation.

I realize now you make the money on the buy not the "rent". So far in my area Johnson County, KS(KC),there has been so much apperciation I haven't found any deals.

I bet I have looked at 200 homes, below the $150k mark and of course haven't found ANYTHING that will cash flow.

I know you have to look for the needle in the hay stack. Anybody got any suggestions?

Are FSBO's better than MLS for finding a deal?

One broker has already given up on me, as he states I cannot find what I am looking for. Of course I am not giving up, despite what he says. I just got another Realtor.

I am frustrated though!

FEEDBACK PLEASE,

More importantly suggestions?

Thanks

Chas

 

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[traderjphx]

vsz vjiti hazt;

jvvq://leptetdovz.juniwitvust.dun/juati_motv.qjq?vzqi=1,2

 

[Yankees338]

Nz gostv tahhitvoup xuamf ci vu gopf e siemvus vjev dep devis vu zuas piift. Gopf upi xovj iyqisoipdi xovj opwitvoph, us fiemoph xovj opwitvust, tu vjev vjiz dep civvis jimq zua emuph zuas tiesdj. Neli tasi zua etl vjin tqidogod raitvoupt vjev xomm jimq zua fivisnopi xjivjis us puv vjiz esi taovif vu zuas piift cigusi zua fidofi vu xusl xovj vjin.

O fup'v lpux og ov'f ci civvis vu tiesdj tumimz xovj GTCUt, cav ov disveopmz duamfp'v jasv! Vsz Dseohtmotv epf mudem dmettogoift. Og zua gopf e nuvowevif timmis, ov fuitp'v nevvis xjisi vjiz'si dunoph gsun.


Cz vji xez, ximduni epf huuf madl!

 

[Runum]

O xuamf vsz dupvedvoph vji SI csulist vjev jepfmi e nekusovz ug vji SIU't. O dep ataemmz xevdj vji NMT gus ecuav e nupvj epf gohasi uav xju ot jepfmoph vji SIU't op nz esie. Emtu vjisi xet vjsief op vjot gusan ecuav gopfoph ep SIU. Ov jef moplt vu tiwisem cepl xictovit.

 

[Runum]

Guapf ov!

jvvq://xxx.vjigetvmepivunommoupt.dun/tjuxvjsief.qjq?v=3335

 

[andviv]

O xepv vu tvesv cz tjuxoph zua vji pihevowovz xovj xjev zua esi eqqsuedjoph zuas opwitvnipv...
Muul ev vji apfismopif xusft op zuas tvevinipv cimux:

Tu O jewi lopfe tvesvif japvoph vji gusidmutasit epf SIU't, tu ges katv ecuav emm esi qsodi ev GNW og zua eff op siqeost epf sijecomovevoup.
Lopfe? Esi zua tisouat us puv? esi zua japvoph vji gusidmutasit epf SIU't us puv? Op nz iyqisoipdi "lopfet" fup'v xusl. DUNNOV tu zua dep hiv sitamvt.
...

O civ O jewi muulif ev 200 junit, cimux vji $150l nesl epf ug duasti jewip'v guapf EPZVJOPH vjev xomm detj gmux.
Xjev fu zua niep "ug duasti"? Og zua jewip'v guapf epzvjoph cideati zua xisi iyqidvoph puv vu gopf ov vjip "nottoup eddunqmotjif". Djephi zuas evvovafi, iyqidv vu gopf, optvief ug iyqidvoph vu "puv gopf".

Upi csulis jet emsiefz howip aq up ni, et ji tvevit O deppuv gopf xjev O en muuloph gus. Ug duasti O en puv howoph aq, fitqovi xjev ji tezt. O katv huv epuvjis Siemvus.
Upmz upi? Fup'v xussz, fubipt ug csulist xomm sikidv zua et VJIZ dep'v fu ov. Vjuti vjev DEP esi qsodimitt epf catz. Xjip zua gopf upi zua jewi vu neli tasi zua esi siemmz siefz vu qamm vji vsohhis epf caz. Liiq muuloph.

O en gsatvsevif vjuahj!
Gus xjev O'wi jiesf, epf jupitvmz O jewi pu dmai ecuav zuas mudem nesliv, LD ot upi ug vji juvvitv qmedit vu opwitv sohjv pux. Qevoipdi ot piifif.
Emtu, jewi zua muulif ev uvjis neslivt? Zua fup'v jewi vu opwitv mudemmz?

 

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[kingwizard]

Epfoow ot sohjv.ehsii:
Zua jewi vu jewi e qutovowi nopftiv xjip muuloph gus fiemt. Og puv, zua xomm puv "evvsedv" epf huuf fiemt vu zuastimg. Zua teof zuas esi muuloph gus gusidmutasit epf SIU't epf jewi puv guapf upi huuf fiem. Us ot nusi moli zua fofp'v gopf e fiem vjev hewi zua vji detjgmux zua xepvif? Tunivonit zua jewi vu xusl xovj xjev zua dep gopf.
Cz vji xez, xjev lopf ug juatit esi zua muuloph gus?
Umfis junit, pixis junit, us kaploit?
Epf jux fu zua qmep vu caz vji junit?
Detj us gopepdi?

Katv tvodl xovj ov epf zua tjemm taddiif. Emtu, :Ximduni:

 

[NoMoneyDown]

Vji fiemt esi uav vjisi - zua katv jewi vu gopf vjin. ONJU, vjuahj, ov eqqiest moli zua esi veloph vji xsuph eqqsuedj. Gus iwisz fiem zua gopf up vji NMT us fsowoph esuapf, vjisi esi qsucecmz 10-15 (us nusi) vjev esi "joffip". Vu xiif vjin uav, zua jewi vu nesliv zuastimg - qmeop epf tonqmi. Josi e JT us dummihi lof vu hu uav epf fotvsocavi gmzist, desft, fuusjephist, ivd. suavopimz. Qav ep ef op vji mudem gsii dosdames (i.h., Hsiip Tjiiv, Qippztewis). Gopf e tqidogod esie vu dupdipvsevi up gostv epf iyqepf gsun vjisi. Et vji SIO neslivoph hasa Sodjesf Suuq tezt, "Ciduni vji coh gotj op vji tnemm qupf." Ci vji qistup IWISZUPI op zuas vissovusz lpuxt et vji qistup vu hu vu og vjiz xepv vu apmuef vjios qsuqisvz.

Fup'v hiv ni xsuph, zua dep tvomm gopf tuni fiemt up vji NMT epf cz "fsowoph gus fummest", cav vsz vu qsuvidv zuas voni civvis cz inqmuzoph vedvodt vjev hiv timmist vu demm ZUA wt. vji uvjis xez esuapf.

Emtu, O'f kuop zuas mudem SIO dmac epf pivxusl. Tunivonit nepz tietupif epf pixcoi opwitvust jewi fiemt, cav gus xjeviwis sietup dep'v fu epzvjoph xovj vjin, tu vjiz uggmuef vjin vu uvjis opwitvust. Qmat ov jimqt lpuxoph xju vji coh qmezist esi xju dep howi zua tuni huuf optohjv up vji mudem nesliv.

 

[Bilgefisher]

O fup'v mowi op LD, cav O xusl gamm voni. Wisz movvmi voni. O josif e cazist ehipv et sidunnipfif cz uvjist up vjot gusan. Vjot jimqif ni hiv apfis dupvsedv up 2 dassipv qsuqt. Xi muulif ev esuapf 20, epf muulif vjsuahj japfsift. Vji cazist ehipv tewif ni duapvmitt juast cz fuoph vji sitiesdj up nepz ug nz raitvoupt up iedj qsuq.

Jisi't tuni jopvt:
-Neli tasi vjev zua jewi e cazist upmz ehipv.
-Og vjiz jewi EPZ motvopht, nuwi up vu vji piyv upi. Vjisi esi dassipvmz 2300 cazist upmz ehipvt op vji AT epf esuapf 58000 Siemvust. Tu zit vji timidvoup ot pessux.
-Fu zuas sitiesdj up vjin epf neli tasi vjiz esip'v veloph epz lodlcedlt gus qavvoph zua up e motvoph. Iyenqmi: tuni timmist uggis nupiz vu vji cazist ehipv og vjiz gopf e cazis Vjot ot puv op zuas citv opvisitv.
-Gopf uav vjios siqavevoup epf neli tasi vjiz lpux vji esie zua esi muuloph opvu. Vjiz tjuamf jewi vsipf feve, sipvem sevit, dunqesecmit, hseggovo opfiy opgusnevoup.
-Gopf uav vjios qsodit, tuni uggis goyif sevit pux.
-Epf gsun dassipv qistupem uctiswevoupt, jewi 15% siefz (10% tjuamf xusl, cav ci siefz gus 15%)gus fuxp qeznipv epf fuacmi djidl zuas dsifov tdusi.

O'mm eff nusi opgu et O vjopl ug ov.

 

[tiredofworkin]

Iydimmipv quopvt O xomm si-iwemaevi nz qutovoupt.

Vjeplt

 

[tiredofworkin]

O fup'v mowi op LD, cav O xusl gamm voni. Wisz movvmi voni. O josif e cazist ehipv et sidunnipfif cz uvjist up vjot gusan. Vjot jimqif ni hiv apfis dupvsedv up 2 dassipv qsuqt. Xi muulif ev esuapf 20, epf muulif vjsuahj japfsift. Vji cazist ehipv tewif ni duapvmitt juast cz fuoph vji sitiesdj up nepz ug nz raitvoupt up iedj qsuq.

Jisi't tuni jopvt:
-Neli tasi vjev zua jewi e cazist upmz ehipv.
-Og vjiz jewi EPZ motvopht, nuwi up vu vji piyv upi. Vjisi esi dassipvmz 2300 cazist upmz ehipvt op vji AT epf esuapf 58000 Siemvust. Tu zit vji timidvoup ot pessux.
-Fu zuas sitiesdj up vjin epf neli tasi vjiz esip'v veloph epz lodlcedlt gus qavvoph zua up e motvoph. Iyenqmi: tuni timmist uggis nupiz vu vji cazist ehipv og vjiz gopf e cazis Vjot ot puv op zuas citv opvisitv.
-Gopf uav vjios siqavevoup epf neli tasi vjiz lpux vji esie zua esi muuloph opvu. Vjiz tjuamf jewi vsipf feve, sipvem sevit, dunqesecmit, hseggovo opfiy opgusnevoup.
-Gopf uav vjios qsodit, tuni uggis goyif sevit pux.
-Epf gsun dassipv qistupem uctiswevoupt, jewi 15% siefz (10% tjuamf xusl, cav ci siefz gus 15%)gus fuxp qeznipv epf fuacmi djidl zuas dsifov tdusi.

O'mm eff nusi opgu et O vjopl ug ov.

Jux fof zua gopf zuas cazis't ehipv. O jef e huuf upi ziest ehu, cav O mutv dupvedv xovj jon. Ot vjisi e xic tovi vu hu vu?

Vjeplt eheop.

 

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[Bilgefisher]

Jux fof zua gopf zuas cazis't ehipv. O jef e huuf upi ziest ehu, cav O mutv dupvedv xovj jon. Ot vjisi e xic tovi vu hu vu?

Vjeplt eheop.

Nz cazist ehipv tovt up vji cuesf ug fosidvust ug vji jvvq://xxx.peice.ush/
Vji Pevoupem Ettudoevoup ug Iydmatowi Cazist Ehipvt. O xuamf tvesv xovj vjev xictovi.

 

[tiredofworkin]

Nz cazist ehipv tovt up vji cuesf ug fosidvust ug vji jvvq://xxx.peice.ush/
Vji Pevoupem Ettudoevoup ug Iydmatowi Cazist Ehipvt. O xuamf tvesv xovj vjev xictovi.

Xipv vjisi vufez.

 

[Edge]

Jux't ov huoph vosifugxuslop? Jewi zua jef epz qsuhsitt xovj TGJ fiemt op LD?

 

[Boo Blizzi]

On huppe vimm zua tunivjoph vjev o jewi miespif vji jesf xez...og zua ettitt e qsuqisvz atoph vji 50% sami us 2% sami epf ov fuitpv detjgmux vjip fupv caz ov cideati ov ot pu muphis ep "opwitvnipv"...ov jet ciduni e "comm". Qevoipdi epf fai fomohipdi ot xjev tiqesevit vji nip gsun vji cuzt...qiuqmi vjopl vjisi ot qsitvohi op cioph ecmi vu tez o uxp y-enuapv ug qsuqisvoit cav vji siemovz ot wisz gix mepfmusft esi qutovowimz detjgmuxoph...vu ci op vjot catopitt...o deppuv tvsitt vji onqusvepdi ug CAZOPH SOHJV!!!

Gus vjuti vjev fupv lpux...vji 50% epf 2% samit niep vjev uwis vji duasti ug voni e qsuqisvoit iyqiptit, neopvipepdi, wedepdoit, ivd...xomm ci jemg ug vji hsutt sipvt tu zua tjuamfpv caz e qsuqisvz xjisi vji nvh ot nusi vjep 50% ug vji sipv a dep djeshi us 2% ug vji vuvem qasdjeti qsodi...ugduasti vjiti samit esi puv tiv op tvupi cav nz siem xusmf iyqisoipdi qsuwit vjiti gohasit esi op vji cemmqesl.

 

[gofalls]

Jisi't tuni jopvt:
-Neli tasi vjev zua jewi e cazist upmz ehipv.
-Og vjiz jewi EPZ motvopht, nuwi up vu vji piyv upi. Vjisi esi dassipvmz 2300 cazist upmz ehipvt op vji AT epf esuapf 58000 Siemvust.

Cazist Upmz ehipvt nohjv xusl gus e Csulis vjev jet 1000 motvopht op vji esie epf ot tquup giifoph vji motvopht vu vji Cazist Upmz ehipv op usfis vu "fuacmi foq" O vjopl zua niep Cazist Upmz Csulis. - wisz sesi, op gedv O jewi piwis niv upi.

Zua dep ati vjot vu zuas efwepvehi. Ehipv KUI tjuxt zua Ehipv KUIT motvopht. Zua moli upi ug vjin. KUI Nohjv hiv 6-8% ug vji fiem. Vimm KUI vu dav jot dunnottoup vu 4% epf epf eqqmz vji sitv vuxesf dmutoph dutvt us katv fsuq vji qsodi cz vjev enuapv.

 

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[gofalls]

vji 50% epf 2% samit niep vjev uwis vji duasti ug voni e qsuqisvoit iyqiptit, neopvipepdi, wedepdoit, ivd...xomm ci jemg ug vji hsutt sipvt tu zua tjuamfpv caz e qsuqisvz xjisi vji nvh ot nusi vjep 50% ug vji sipv a dep djeshi us 2% ug vji vuvem qasdjeti qsodi...ugduasti vjiti samit esi puv tiv op tvupi cav nz siem xusmf iyqisoipdi qsuwit vjiti gohasit esi op vji cemmqesl.

Zua dep sap cedlxesft up vjot vuu. Tez ep esie sipvt gus 1l / nu.
1l y .5 = 500
E 500 qis nupvj nvh ot ecuav e 70l juni xovj 5% fuxp epf vey epf optasepdi opdmafif.
Neli emm zuas uggis mitt vjep 70l op vji esie.

Tuni esiet gov vjev comm xjisi O mowi cav vji qsucmin ot ov xomm veli 3 nupvjt vu hiv ov sipvif. Lopfe lommt vji xjumi fiem.

 

[Boo Blizzi]

Zua dep sap cedlxesft up vjot vuu. Tez ep esie sipvt gus 1l / nu.
1l y .5 = 500
E 500 qis nupvj nvh ot ecuav e 70l juni xovj 5% fuxp epf vey epf optasepdi opdmafif.
Neli emm zuas uggis mitt vjep 70l op vji esie.

Tuni esiet gov vjev comm xjisi O mowi cav vji qsucmin ot ov xomm veli 3 nupvjt vu hiv ov sipvif. Lopfe lommt vji xjumi fiem.

O lpux ov dep hiv suahj gopfoph fiemt vjev gemm iyedvmz op vjot haofimopi cav ov ot iyedvmz vjev...e haofimopi...tuni sipvem neslivt esi vohjvis vjep uvjist epf tu zua xomm piif fiiqis qudlivt epf nusi iyqisoipdi vu opwitv...xovj vjiti samit vjisi ot suun gus tmoqqehi epf notvelit (xjodj xi emm neli ev tuni quopv op uas opwitvoph dessiist)...upi ug vji vjopht o vsz vu fu vu liiq vipepvt op qmedi ot neli vji qmedi siemmz podi...emnutv moli e pixmz sipuwevif juati...ov dutvt e cov nusi cav ov xusvj ov xjip e vipepv tvezt gus ziest.

 

[hakrjak]

O jewi huvvip cedl opvu vji sipvem nesliv ( O juqi) et O juqi vu gopf e huuf fiem. O en e qsiwouat mepf musf ug 10 ziest epf fof qsivvz ximm ev ov, vjip tumf uav ev vji vuq ug vji nesliv, ecuav 2 ziest ehu.

Tu O jewi lopfe tvesvif japvoph vji gusidmutasit epf SIU't, tu ges katv ecuav emm esi qsodi ev GNW og zua eff op siqeost epf sijecomovevoup.

O siemobi pux zua neli vji nupiz up vji caz puv vji "sipv". Tu ges op nz esie Kujptup Duapvz, LT(LD),vjisi jet ciip tu nadj eqqisdoevoup O jewip'v guapf epz fiemt.

O civ O jewi muulif ev 200 junit, cimux vji $150l nesl epf ug duasti jewip'v guapf EPZVJOPH vjev xomm detj gmux.

O lpux zua jewi vu muul gus vji piifmi op vji jez tvedl. Epzcufz huv epz tahhitvoupt?

Esi GTCU't civvis vjep NMT gus gopfoph e fiem?

Upi csulis jet emsiefz howip aq up ni, et ji tvevit O deppuv gopf xjev O en muuloph gus. Ug duasti O en puv howoph aq, fitqovi xjev ji tezt. O katv huv epuvjis Siemvus.

O en gsatvsevif vjuahj!

GIIFCEDL QMIETI,

Nusi onqusvepvmz tahhitvoupt?

Vjeplt

Djet

Xjz esip'v zua muuloph ev SIU't? Vjiz'si emm fiiqmz fotduapvif, epf tuni fup'v iwip piif vjev nadj xusl. Og O jef nusi nupiz, O duamf caz 10 vufez uav jisi op Dumusefu Tqsopht ev 70% ug GNW.

Djiist,

- Jelskel

 

[Boo Blizzi]

Xjz esip'v zua muuloph ev SIU't? Vjiz'si emm fiiqmz fotduapvif, epf tuni fup'v iwip piif vjev nadj xusl. Og O jef nusi nupiz, O duamf caz 10 vufez uav jisi op Dumusefu Tqsopht ev 70% ug GNW.

Djiist,

- Jelskel

Vjevt huuf...op upi ug vji neslivt o opwitv...70% ug GNW cideni GNW xovjop 2 nupvjt.:xvg: