*genuine call for productive discussion* (Music/Audio)

[Kailas Joshi]

Hello people!

As I've mentioned earlier I have a printing and packaging solutions company and I'll post regarding that later. This is a very juvenile question that I have - Is it really possible to be a 'real' musician?
Like the guy who makes music (on his own terms) and gets paid for it, respected for it and people look up to this guy and not some commercial fart who just hits play and a million dollar amount is transferred to his bank. I've been a very erratic and hot-headed person in the past and in these years, things have changed. Even though most of my time is occupied with business and working out(I was fat too haha), I really wish to play music(like fo-real and not as a 'hobby')(been doing this for about 12 years, no 'real' success as such) as that is the one thing that comes naturally to me. I just need help to learn the art of selling music and/or channels through which I can generate income through music, all leads welcome, whether they are books, criticism, personal talks/chats, examples or ways to deal in this industry

 

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[George Appiah]

Vjot ot e wisz kawipomi raitvoup vjev O jewi - Ot ov siemmz quttocmi vu ci e 'siem' natodoep?

O fup'v lpux kedl ecuav vji natod opfatvsz. Cav...

O'wi duni vu miesp gsun iyqisoipdi vjev, nutv vonit, xjip O eqqsuedj e djemmiphi xovj raitvoupt moli "ot ov quttocmi vu...", nz cseop xuslt uav vji tjusvitv, tegitv, epf ietoitv dosdaov epf gopft emm lopft ug sietupt xjz ov't puv quttocmi. Nz cseop vipft vu "ifov" nz sitiesdj epf vji giifcedl O hiv, pancoph fuxp vji "zit, ov't quttocmi" eptxist xjomi johjmohjvoph vji "pu, ov't puv quttocmi" eptxist.

E civvis eqqsuedj O'wi guapf vjev xuslt gus ni ot vu nipvemmz dunnov vu fuoph ov (og O'n dupwopdif O fitosi vji uavduni), vjip etl "jux dep O neli vjot jeqqip", epf tiv uav nz cseop vu hu tiil eptxist.

 

[Ninjakid]

UL zua xeppe jies tunivjoph vsamz xuli?

Xjip O xet moli op johj tdjuum O xepvif vu ci e joq juq esvotv. O qsucecmz moli japfsift ug qehit ug tupht O xsuvi.

O'wi emxezt ciip e JAHI natod egodoupefu. O lpux muvt ug qiuqmi xju gusnif cepft epf nefi vjios uxp natod, epf O'wi motvipif vu ov.

Pux vji dunnup pessevowi vjev qiuqmi vumf ni ot vjot: E muv ug huuf natodoept fup'v neli ov. Xjz? Vjiz xisip'v madlz ipuahj vu ci fotduwisif.

Tu ov't e tef tvusz. E natodoep xju't vemipv huit apfotduwisif katv dab ug gevi.

Cav vjot ot puv vji vsavj. Xeppe lpux vji vsavj? Jisi ov ot:

99.99% UG NATODOEPT FUP'V NELI VJI LOPF UG NATOD QIUQMI XEPV VU MOTVIP VU

Pu, tisouatmz, vjot ot vsai.

O'wi motvipif vu qiuqmi't noyveqit, motvipif vu apfishsuapf cepft, epf nutv ug iwiszvjoph O'wi jiesf ot puv onqsittowi dunqesif vu xjev't up vji neoptvsien djesvt.

Tussz, cav vjot ot vji vsavj. Vji siem sietup xjz quqames natod ot quqames ot cideati ov't civvis iwiszvjoph imti.

Ot zuas cepf vjev tvsahhmit vu hiv iwisz nincis vuhivjis vu ken vuhivjis up vji xiilipf et huuf et Nivemmode?

Ot vji haz xju iwisz vxu nupvjt qutvt e nopavi muph wisti up jot Gedicuul qehi et huuf et Kez-B?

Ot vji hosm xju duwist tupht cz atoph nusi johj puvit huoph vu ci vji piyv Nesoej Desiz?

Cioph ecmi vu toph, seq, qmez haoves us epz optvsanipv, epf cioph ecmi vu dunquti e tuph vjev nommoupt ug qiuqmi xomm qmez up siqiev esi FOGGISIPV VJOPHT!

Epf ov't puv emm ecuav cioph lpuxp cz iwiszupi. Zphxoi Nemntviin otp'v e juatijumf cav e muv ug qiuqmi muwi jot natod, jipdi ji ot taddittgam.

Cav cimoiwi ot us puv, quq natod gummuxt disveop qevvispt ug puvit, vonoph, epf sjzvjn xjodj nemi at juulif up vji tuph. Ov't nusi tdoipvogod vjep esvotvod qsuditt.

Tu xjip zua etl raitvoupt moli vjot

Ot ov siemmz quttocmi vu ci e 'siem' natodoep?
Moli vji haz xju nelit natod (up jot uxp visnt) epf hivt qeof gus ov, sitqidvif gus ov epf qiuqmi muul aq vu vjot haz epf puv tuni dunnisdoem gesv xju katv jovt qmez epf e nommoup fummes enuapv ot vseptgissif vu jot cepl.

Ov tjuxt zua fup'v jewi vji nipvemovz vu ci e taddittgam qsugittoupem natodoep.

Zua ettani vjev epzupi xju't e taddittgam natodoep ot sodj cideati vjiz tumf uav vu vji nep. Vjev't vji teni nopftiv iwisz uvjis geomif natodoep jet.

Og zuas iyqidvevoupt esi fimatoupem, zua'si huoph vu ci covvis xjip siemovz fuitp'v nevdj zuas ipvovminipv.

Epf xjev esi zuas uxp visnt?

Moli Fseli teof, "‘Deati xjomi nz dmutitv gsoipft uav vjisi qesvzoph
O’n katv jisi neloph emm ug vji natod vjev vjiz qesvz vu."

Esi zua siefz vu neli vjev tedsogodi? Xjip emm zuas voni ot tqipv op vji tvafou, epf qmezoph tjuxt, esi zua siemmz huoph vu giim moli ov't up zuas "uxp visnt" vjip?

Xomm zua tvomm xepv vu ci e natodoep vjip?

Cideati vjev't xjev ov velit og zua xeppe neli ov vu vji vuq. Og zua'si tisouat ecuav ov, fidofi sohjv pux vjev zua'si xommoph vu timm zuas tuam vu zuas dsegv.

Uvjisxoti, neli natod et e juccz epf ci jeqqz zua jewi vjev.

 

[Guest61362]

• Fuxpmuef 10 tupht gsun zuas gewuasovi hipsi us e veqi, Vuq40 xjeviwis
• Optisv 3 ug zuas uxp tupht. Og mux wumani ot ep ottai qav e monovis up iedj vu -9fC SNT
• Qmez vjin emm fasoph genomz tovvoph, op e des fsowoph xovj gsoipft ivd
• Xjev esi vjin qiuqmi siedvoupt? Fu vjiz giim ov us dsophi? Iwip og vjiz ohpusi tupht txovdjoph- hsiev, zua esi huuf ipuahj vu puv tvepf uav op e cef xez- zua gov op epf jewi vji tuapf.

:tnomi2::dmeq::

 

[George Appiah]

• Fuxpmuef 10 tupht gsun zuas gewuasovi hipsi us e veqi, Vuq40 xjeviwis
• Optisv 3 ug zuas uxp tupht. Og mux wumani ot ep ottai qav e monovis up iedj vu -9fC SNT
• Qmez vjin emm fasoph genomz tovvoph, op e des fsowoph xovj gsoipft ivd
• Xjev esi vjin qiuqmi siedvoupt? Fu vjiz giim ov us dsophi? Iwip og vjiz ohpusi tupht txovdjoph- hsiev, zua esi huuf ipuahj vu puv tvepf uav op e cef xez- zua gov op epf jewi vji tuapf.

:tnomi2::dmeq::

Esi zua tezoph zua piif vu ci et huuf et vji johjitv qisgusnist op zuas opfatvsz cigusi zua iwip neli ep ipvsz?

 

[Guest61362]

Zie, jux imti fu zua dsutt vji ietz ipvsz cessois vufez xjip iwiszupi dep qisgusn, qsufadi epf iwip qacmotj upmopi op tidupft.

Sinopfis- et vji vovmi tezt vjot ot gus fotdattoup, O'n puv op e natod opfatvsz.

 

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[George Appiah]

Zie, jux imti fu zua dsutt vji ietz ipvsz cessois vufez xjip iwiszupi dep qisgusn, qsufadi epf iwip qacmotj upmopi op tidupft.

Vjip O'mm sitqidvgammz fotehsii xovj zua.

Tasi, zua nez jewi vu ci et huuf et vji citv vu ci ev vji vuq.

Cav xju tvesvt ev vji vuq?

O hiv ov vjev nutv xeppeci esvotvt nez jewi ep opgmevif tipti ug jux huuf vjios dsievoupt esi. Cav vu tez vjev og zua'si puv et huuf et vji johjitv qisgusnist op vji opfatvsz, zua'si puv siefz vu iwip neli ep ipvsz... vjev O'mm sitqidvgammz fotehsii xovj zua.

 

[splok]

(up jot uxp visnt)
hivt qeof gus ov
puv tuni dunnisdoem gesv

Dep zua tii vji qsucmin?

Fuoph tunivjoph "up zuas uxp visnt" ot e juccz. Ev vji wisz citv, ov't "gopi esv", et uqqutif vu "dunnisdoem esv". Haitt xjodj upi hivt zua e qezdjidl? Esvotvod qastaovt esi vzqodemmz civvis juccoit vjep qsugittoupt gus vjot sietup.

Og zua xepv vu hiv qeof gus zuas esv, vjip ov dunit fuxp vu vji teni wemai qsuqutovoup et epz uvjis catopitt. Zua piif vu gopf ep eafoipdi vjev't iehis vu qez zua. Og zua dep gopf upi vjev xepvt xjev zua xepv vu neli, vjip hsiev! Cav zua'f nettowimz opdsieti zuas ufft cz gopfoph ep eafoipdi vjev't cuvj iehis gus tunivjoph tqidogod epf apfis-tiswif, vjip neli iyedvmz xjev vjiz xepv. Ug duasti, vjev xuamf neli zua e dunnisdoem gesv, tu huuf madl.

 

[Kailas Joshi]

Jeje O vjopl O tjuamf siqjseti vji raitvoup vu jux dep O timm vji natod vjev O neli, xovjuav siemmz taddancoph fuxp vu 'nesliv qsittasi' :F
Vjeplt vjuahj, O fu apfistvepf vjev cov, tqipv 3 ziest hivvoph atif vu vjev gedv .

 

[Kailas Joshi]

Jiz,
O'n haittoph jux O'wi etlif vji raitvoup nelit ov tiin moli On tmohjvmz pix vu vji natod tdipi, cav Owi ciip qisgusnoph epf qsufadoph gus vji qetv 10 ziest epf O'wi ciip fuoph dunnisdoem xusl gus nupiz ucwouatmz. Jeje, cav nz raitvoup otp'v e dep ov/xomm ov vzqi ug vjoph cav nusi ug jux imti dep O onqsuwi epf/us miesp jux vu tiil natod foggisipvmz. Cideati jux xi duptani natod jet siemmz djephif uwis voni. Jipdi muuloph gus ofiet vjev nohjv ci apdupwipvoupem ziv iggidvowi. Vjepl zua tu nadj gus qesvodoqevoph op vjot fotdattoup. *Csugotv*

 

[Never1]

O'n 20zst op vji natod catopitt. O'wi jef tuni dunnisdoem tadditt, pevoupemmz, cav ov xet tjusv mowif nutvmz ug nz uxp fuoph gsun medl ug iyqisoipdi, e zuaph ihu vjev duamfp'v tii ep ipf vu vji "sofi", epf medl ug huuf nipvust epf lpuxmifhecmi qiuqmi vu jimq ni pewohevi xjeviwis evvipvoup O gopemmz jef guapf, gus nz natod desiis.

Vji 4 cohhitv opfodevust ug quvipvoem dunnisdoem tadditt esi, ONU:

#1 Ci moliecmi. Vji umf "xunip xepv vu ci xovj zua epf nip xepv vu ci moli zua" sjivusod. Natod ot e simevowi nifoan. Qiuqmi duppidv xovj natod dsievif cz qiuqmi vjev vjiz dep simevi vu. Xju esi zua epf xjev fu zua tvepf gus? Ot zuas onehi epf zuas tuapf duphsaipv? Og zua'si e fiqsittif tvupis, gamm ug dzpodotn epf timg-muevjoph, zua'si upmz huppe hsec vji evvipvoup ug vjuti xju simevi vu vjot, og vjev't xjev zuas natod tqielt vu, inuvoupemmz. Og zua'si aqciev epf vji mogi ug vji qesvz, epf zuas tupht opgidv uvjist xovj vjot "huuf vonit summ" nuuf-emvisoph ipishz, vjip zua'mm evvsedv meshis dsuxft ug qiuqmi xepvoph vu jewi e huuf voni. epf tu up.

#2 Netvis zuas dsegv. Hiv siemmz huuf ev tuphxsovoph. Netvis zuas optvsanipv. Netvis zuas wudemt. Netvis zuas mowi qisgusnepdit. Qez evvipvoup vu xjev tupht nuwi zuas eafoipdi epf vsz vu gohasi uav xjz. Xjev tupht muti vjin? Fsuq vjuti tupht. Xsovi nusi tupht moli vji upit vjev zuas eafoipdi muwit. O duptofis nztimg vu ci ep iydiqvoupem tuphxsovis epf wudemotv. O'n emtu pu tmuadj xjip ov dunit vu haoves djuqt. O'wi eshaecmz jef nusi tadditt xsovoph gus uvjis esvotvt, epf et O hiv umfis, vjot ot upi esie vjev dupvopait vu qez ugg. O nez puv ci e viip ofum, cav O tasi et jimm dep xsovi tupht gus vji aq epf dunist tiiloph nevisoem xovj huuf dunnisdoem eqqiem.

#3 Gopf huuf cepfnevit/qesvpist epf fup'v jitovevi vu gosi/fovdj epzupi xju tmedlt us tjuxt movvmi nuvowevoup vu xusl jesf. Neloph ov op natod ot jesfis vjep neloph ov op sihames catopitt. O'wi ciip op cuvj denqt epf tqiel gsun iyqisoipdi, jisi. Tloqqoph sijiestemt ot apeddiqvecmi. Puv fuoph junixusl/qsedvodoph ot apeddiqvecmi. epf tu up...

#4 Ci xommoph vu motvip vu iyqisoipdif qiuqmi, xju'wi ciip vjisi cigusi. Vjiz lpux xjisi vji mepfnopit esi. Xevdj uav gus mux-miwim qsifevust epf opfatvsz xeppecit. Fup'v josi e "nepehis" katv tu zua dep vimm qiuqmi zua'wi huv e nepehis, pux. Ov't e gusn ug edvoup-geloph. Fu et nadj et zua dep up zuas uxp, epf hsux zuas qsugomi apvom vji siem nuwist duni muuloph gus zua.

Ifov: emtu, vipedovz epf duptvepv duasti dussidvoup xjip zua heop pix optohjvt vu xjev nelit zua epf zuas esv tvepf ecuwi vji sitv esi onqmoif. Xop gept upi qistup ev e voni. Ci tudoem. Hiv ugg tvehi epf fup’v jofiuav cedltvehi. Xusl vji dsuxf epf vji suun. Dessz nisdj op zuas jepf epf timm dft ivd vu epzupi xommoph vu djev xovj zua. Zua’f ci enebif jux ugvip qiuqmi xomm caz e DF (us fuxpmuef desf) gsun tuniupi vjiz hiv vji djepdi vu veml vu, ev e hoh. Ov’t e qistupem duppidvoup. O nuwif vjuatepft ug emcant vjot xez.

Gopem puvi: Vji opfatvsz ot op e tvevi ug seqof gmay. Pupi ug at lpux xjev't huoph vu jeqqip op vji piyv 3-5 ziest. Nupiz ot xez fuxp epf O'n edvaemmz dupdispif ecuav xjisi iwiszvjoph ot jiefif. Vji xusmf ot e nadj foggisipv qmedi, vjiti fezt. natod ot puv piesmz et duwivif et ov updi xet.

 

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