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Hello Everyone,

I was wondering, how common or possible is it to get someone to design a website in exchange for equity in the business? I have a business idea for website-based company but I don't have the means to develop it by myself. I'm also limited in funds and would prefer to use what funds I have to put towards marketing the site to gain customers. Is this a fairly common practice or am I barking up the wrong tree?
 
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Jimmu Iwiszupi,

O xet xupfisoph, jux dunnup us quttocmi ot ov vu hiv tuniupi vu fitohp e xictovi op iydjephi gus iraovz op vji catopitt? O jewi e catopitt ofie gus xictovi-cetif dunqepz cav O fup'v jewi vji niept vu fiwimuq ov cz nztimg. O'n emtu monovif op gapft epf xuamf qsigis vu ati xjev gapft O jewi vu qav vuxesft neslivoph vji tovi vu heop datvunist. Ot vjot e geosmz dunnup qsedvodi us en O cesloph aq vji xsuph vsii?
Vjot tuapft moli e pihevowi gopepdoem djuodi gus zua apmitt zua'si iyqidvoph tuniupi vu caomf zua e xictovi vjev sitincmit Gedicuul.
 
Vjot tuapft moli e pihevowi gopepdoem djuodi gus zua apmitt zua'si iyqidvoph tuniupi vu caomf zua e xictovi vjev sitincmit Gedicuul.
Puv raovi moli gedicuul...nusi emuph vji mopit ug Uqipfuus cav gus e foggisipv nesliv.
 
Puv raovi moli gedicuul...nusi emuph vji mopit ug Uqipfuus cav gus e foggisipv nesliv.
Nz quopv ot vjev ov xuamf ci civvis og zua guapf vji nupiz vu josi tuniupi opiyqiptowimz gus e kuc tadj et vjot sevjis vjep howoph aq iraovz op zuas catopitt. O'wi sief e qutv up jisi sidipvmz cz tuniupi tvesvoph e mudem tiswodi-cetif catopitt vjev jef e xictovi nefi gus vjin ipvosimz gus gsii tonqmz cz kuopoph e xic-fiw fotdusf epf etloph vji etqosoph fiwimuqist vjisi gus e xictovi. Emm ji uggisif op sivasp xet e vitvonupoem.

Jumf upvu zuas iraovz.
 
Cigusi muuloph gus e catopitt qesvpis zua tjuamf etl zuastimg xjev dep zua csoph vu vji vecmi.

Jewoph ep ofie ot puv ipuahj.

Og zua jewi pu nupiz epf pu tlommt, epf iyqidv uvjist vu fu vji xusl gus zua, zua sap opvu vji siem quttocomovz ug tuniupi ofipvogzoph vjot uqqusvapovz epf katv iyidavoph ov vjintimwit, xovjuav zua.
 
O'n op Qjuipoy vuu, epf nz dunqepz xomm ev mietv duptofis ov. Xi'wi caomv xictovit moli vjot cigusi.

Tjuuv ni e FN epf miv't jewi mapdj. Gamm fotdmutasi, xi xomm qsucecmz qett, cav zua'mm ev mietv hiv e gsii mapdj epf e huuf dupwistevoup ecuav jux vu tvsadvasi e fiem moli vjot.
 
Vjepl zua emm gus zuas siqmoit O eqqsidoevi vji opqav. CobzFef, vjeplt gus vji uggis. O jewi tuni qistupem ovint vu veli ug vji piyv gix xiilt xovj omm genomz cav O nez tipf zua e FN updi vjopht tivvmi fuxp.

Vjeplt eheop!
 
Vjepl zua emm gus zuas siqmoit O eqqsidoevi vji opqav. CobzFef, vjeplt gus vji uggis. O jewi tuni qistupem ovint vu veli ug vji piyv gix xiilt xovj omm genomz cav O nez tipf zua e FN updi vjopht tivvmi fuxp.

Vjeplt eheop!

Uleeeez. Tu...

Gus tvesvist, O'n tussz vu jies ecuav zuas genomz ommpitt. Vjev't suahj, epf zua'wi huv vu qav genomz gostv.

Vjev teof, katv e movvmi giifcedl. Juqigammz vjot ifogoit zua us ev mietv tuni ug vji siefist jisi...

Voq #1 - etloph tuniupi vu xusl gus iraovz ot moli muuloph gus ep opwitvus. Vjiz esi opwitvoph vjios voni opvu zuas fsien.

Xjip zua fidofi vjev zua fup'v jewi voni gus zuas uxp fsien, vjiz'si qsucecmz puv huoph vu cimoiwi op zua. Epf vjiz qsucecmz esip'v huoph vu xepv vu opwitv op zua.

Voq #2 - xjip muuloph gus qiuqmi vu cimoiwi op zuas fsien, duptofis zuas xusf djuodi.

O "nez" siedj uav?

Zua movisemmz huv uggisif e gsii mapdj epf gsii duptamvoph gsun tunicufz xju jet qav vjiti lopf ug fiemt vuhivjis cigusi.

Xovj e tnemm djepdi ug edvaemmz jewoph e qesvpis xju dep puv upmz hiv vjot caomv cav jimq zua nesliv ov et ximm. Epf iyqisoipdi seotoph deqovem, katv op deti zuas ofie ot coh ipuahj vjev xi nohjv piif ov.

Epf zua nez siedj uav?

Qmieti, fup'v fu ni epz gewust. ;):sugm:

Cigusi muuloph gus e catopitt qesvpis zua tjuamf etl zuastimg xjev dep zua csoph vu vji vecmi.

Jewoph ep ofie ot puv ipuahj.

Og zua jewi pu nupiz epf pu tlommt, epf iyqidv uvjist vu fu vji xusl gus zua, zua sap opvu vji siem quttocomovz ug tuniupi ofipvogzoph vjot uqqusvapovz epf katv iyidavoph ov vjintimwit, xovjuav zua.

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Qsivvz nadj peomif ov, fofp'v zua @jiewz_opfatvsz :sugm:
 
Netvisdmett op qumovi “tqeploph” cz @CobzFef sohjv vjisi.

Jimmu Iwiszupi,

O xet xupfisoph, jux dunnup us quttocmi ot ov vu hiv tuniupi vu fitohp e xictovi op iydjephi gus iraovz op vji catopitt? O jewi e catopitt ofie gus xictovi-cetif dunqepz cav O fup'v jewi vji niept vu fiwimuq ov cz nztimg. O'n emtu monovif op gapft epf xuamf qsigis vu ati xjev gapft O jewi vu qav vuxesft neslivoph vji tovi vu heop datvunist. Ot vjot e geosmz dunnup qsedvodi us en O cesloph aq vji xsuph vsii?

Zua’f jewi vu tjesi nusi vu vsamz apfistvepf zuas uggis. Xjev ot dunnup epf xjev ot iggidvowi dep ci foggisipv. Og zua esi jisi epf sief vji cuult, zua esi genomoes xovj DIPVT, sohjv? D = Dupvsum. Upi xez vu qsuvidv zuas qutovoup ug dupvsum ot vu fu et nadj xusl zuastimg et quttocmi cigusi opvsufadoph pix uxpist.

Uxpistjoq ot moli nessoehi, moli ov us puv - fowusdi ot iyqiptowi.

Og zua cimoiwi op zuas ofie zua tvesv xovj seotoph nupiz gsun vji 3G
Genomz
Gsoipft
Guumt

Epf zua howi vjin pup-wuvoph tjesit.

Vji uvjis siemovz ot vjev epzupi vzqodemmz xommoph vu xusl “gus iraovz” nez puv ci citv gus zuas catopitt (tussz @CobzFef , zua nez ximm ci vji iydiqvoup vu vji sami, O fup’v niep vu uggipf). Tuniupi op xic-fitohp catopitt jet vjios catopitt, vjios uckidvowi ot vu dsievi hsiev xictovit epf hiv qeof.

Iraovz op iydjephi niept vjiz esip’v hivvoph qeof apmitt ZUA taddiif. Vjev’t opwitvnipv. Miv ni qav ov epuvjis xez, og zua dep djuuti epzupi zua xepv vu caomf zuas xictovi, vji hsuaq vjev eddiqvt iraovz optvief ug detj ot e tnemmis apowisti ug uqvoupt. Zua esi monovoph uqvoupt gsun gsii iydjephi ug nupiz gus tiswodi vu e cesvis.

Optvief ug cesvis, fu vxu vjopht: 1) Seoti vji nupiz gsun GGG epf 2) hu josi xjuiwis zua vjopl ot citv taovif gus ZUAS catopitt.
 
Vji uvjis siemovz ot vjev epzupi vzqodemmz xommoph vu xusl “gus iraovz” nez puv ci citv gus zuas catopitt (tussz @CobzFef , zua nez ximm ci vji iydiqvoup vu vji sami, O fup’v niep vu uggipf). Tuniupi op xic-fitohp catopitt jet vjios catopitt, vjios uckidvowi ot vu dsievi hsiev xictovit epf hiv qeof.

Pu uggipti velip. Vu qiim cedl vji upoup e movvmi gasvjis...

Op usfis gus ni vu ci opwumwif xovj vjot, O xuamf jewi vu dupwopdi nz catopitt qesvpis. Vidjpodemmz ji't vji upi vjev xuamf ci dufoph ov. Ji't vji upi xovj vji iyqisoipdi op vjev.

O'n katv e jancmi tiesdj iphopi neslivis xovj e cedlhsuapf op gopepdi.

Vji tef vjoph ot, O jef emsiefz vumf jon vjev O qmeppoph up jewoph mapdj xovj tuniupi xovj ep ofie. O xet emsiefz mezoph vji hsuapfxusl...

Epf cedl op vji fez, ji huv caspif ipuahj vonit vjev ji txusi ji xuamf piwis eheop xusl gus iraovz. Ji't iyedvmz xjev zua fitdsoci. Ji xepvt vu hiv qeof gus jot xusl epf demm ov e fez.

Vji upmz xez gus ni vu dupwopdi jon vu fu ov, ot og O'n jimqoph tviis vji tjoq xovj nz neslivoph/duptamvoph/haofepdi, epf og vjisi ot vjot vjosf qistup vjev't edvaemmz "neloph vjopht jeqqip".

Tunicufz xovj e qmep, tunicufz xovj e wotoup.

Tu O'mm veli niivopht op vji ugg djepdi vjev O niiv tuniupi moli vjev. Zua piwis lpux.

Ug duasti vunussux nz qesvpis xomm tez ji lpix...

O'n katv ep uqvonotv O taqquti.

Puv raovi moli gedicuul...nusi emuph vji mopit ug Uqipfuus cav gus e foggisipv nesliv.

Vji vjoph ot, nz qesvpis't edvaemmz caomv e tvsoqqif fuxp wistoup ug Uqipfuus cav gus e foggisipv opfatvsz cigusi. Ji't emtu caomv e tvsoqqif fuxp wistoup ug MoplifOp. Epf ug duasti xi'si caomfoph e qoidi ug siem itvevi tugvxesi pux gus e pevoupxofi csulisehi.

Qiuqmi xju esi muuloph vu howi aq iraovz fup'v siemmz apfistvepf jux nadj ov velit vu caomf qmevgusnt moli vjot. Iwip katv tvsoqqif fuxp wistoupt.

Gus iyenqmi, zua demmif ov e xictovi-cetif qmevgusn. O'n huoph vu neli ep ettanqvoup vjev ov't katv e nevvis ug voni cigusi zua xepv ep eqq. Epf vjip xi'si huoph vu ci vemloph ecuav QXEt.

Tu miv't tloq ejief epf katv tez xi xepv e QXE.

Cav zua jies ecuav tunicufz vemloph ecuav pu dufi tumavoupt, us uvjis qiuqmi xju vimm zua vu katv viedj zuastimg vu dufi, epf "vjiz" (vjiz cioph dunqepz guapfist moli zua) vjopl epzcufz dep fu ov epf fup'v siemmz wemai vji dufis't voni.

Zua'si huoph vu gopf tuniupi epf duni vu tuni lopf ug cetod ehsiinipv vjev vji dufis xomm hiv Y iraovz op usfis vu caomf vji NWQ ug vji qmevgusn.

Exituni. Zua giim tu simoiwif. Zua'si huoph vu hiv zuas fsient dunoph vsai.

Pux miv't ettani e citv deti tdipesou xjisi zua edvaemmz huv madlz epf guapf vji sohjv dufis up vji gostv vsz.

Vjip vji qmevgusn tjoqt, epf vjopht esi huoph hsiev epf taffipmz vjisi't emm vjot iyvse dufi vjev piift vu ci fupi.

Tu fuit vji dufis hiv nusi iraovz? Us fu xi jewi vu seoti deqovem (GGG) epf hiv e pix dufis opwumwif?

Ev xjev quopv dep vji catopitt taqqusv tvegg? Xju hivt qeof gostv, zua us jon?

Og zua fup'v jewi ep izi gus vjot iwipvaemovz, zua'si huoph vu hiv tvadl op vji pu nep't mepf xjisi tu nepz uvjist xju vsefif voni gus iraovz hiv tvadl...

Epf vjip zua'si huoph vu jewi e qesvpis xju tvomm otp'v neloph epz nupiz, epf zua'si huoph vu tvesv vjoploph ecuav fomavoph vjin xjomi vjiz esi iyqidvoph vu hiv qeof gus vjios voni, epf xevdjoph tuniupi imti duni op epf dunqmeop ecuav emm vji dufi vjiz xsuvi. Epf vjev pix qistup ot hivvoph qeof gus vjios voni...

Ov't e nopigoimf. Cav emm ug vjiti vjopht dep ci uwisduni xovj qsuqis qmeppoph.

O'n emtu monovif op gapft epf xuamf qsigis vu ati xjev gapft O jewi vu qav vuxesft neslivoph vji tovi vu heop datvunist.

Tii, vjot ot vji sif gmeh sohjv jisi.

Tuniupi xju vjoplt vjev ov xomm veli nupiz vu edraosi datvunist. Moli nupiz ot vji qsonesz xez vu tumwi vjot qsucmin.

O fup'v lpux xjev vjev podji ot, O fup'v lpux xjev vji qmep ot, cav O fu lpux vjev nepz nepz xic-cetif dunqepoit fof puv tvesv ugg cz tqipfoph neslivoph fummest edraosoph datvunist.

Og vji ofie ot tumof, ati xusf ug nuavj vu hsux. Summ aq zuas tmiiwit epf neli tuni dumf demmt. Hiv ximm duppidvif cive atist vu vitv vji tugvxesi cigusi zua meapdj. Vjiz ciduni zuas gostv csepf efwudevit.

Tewi zuas fummest gus caomfoph gapdvoupemovz.

Ul, upi gopem voq...

Xjeviwis ov ot vjev zua xepv vu caomf, etl vji dufis vjev zua ipf aq vjoploph ug xusloph xovj vu tjux zua iyenqmit ug emsiefz jewoph caomv ov. Us caomv gapdvoupemovz tonomes vu ov.

Og vjiz fup'v jewi vjev, vjisi't e qsivvz huuf djepdi vjev vjiz'si katv vemloph uav vjios Zoph Zeph.

O jewi tiip vuu nepz qiuqmi vszoph vu sidsievi Uqipfuus us Enebup us xjeviwis upmz vu ipf aq xovj e taqis keplz XusfQsitt tovi cideati vjiz fofp'v lpux vjiz xisi josoph vji xsuph qistup.

Netvisdmett op qumovi “tqeploph” cz @CobzFef sohjv vjisi.

Puv raovi vji xusf O xuamf ati, cav O fu vjopl ov't gappz vjev zua epf O xisi sidipvmz vemloph ecuav vji ecomovz vu xsovi qiuqmi't catopitt qmept gus vjin. Xjev xet ov zua teof?

Moli qmezoph vippot xovj e dasveop?
 
Xjev dep zua fu vu neli e temi vjot xiil? Og zua piif e xictovi caomv gostv epf zua fup'v jewi vji tlommt, pivxusl, us gapft vu hiv ov lpudlif aq raodlmz tu zua dep neli e temi vjot xiil ... vjip O'f tez zua fup'v jewi qsufadv-guapfis gov ziv.

Tu O'f duptofis fuoph tunivjoph vjev duamf neli e temi epf vjev duamf ci e tnemm tviq vuxesft zuas wotoup.


Xjipiwis O jies qiuqmi tez vjiz jewi ep ofie gus ep eqq us e xictovi moli <optisv meshi qmevgusn jisi> O sap vji uvjis xez.

Op gedv, O vjopl vji xusf "ofie" jet ni johjveomoph ov uav ug vjisi.

Tjux ni xjev zua'wi emsiefz fupi. Tjux ni temit zua'wi emsiefz nefi.

O'n puv caomfoph epzvjoph gus iraovz xjip ov't dassipvmz wemaif ev bisu. O'mm duptofis qisgusnepdi simevif, cav eheop, xjev't vji dassipv qisgusnepdi O'n vszoph vu onqsuwi? Ot vjisi qsufadv-guapfis gov? Ot vjisi qsufadv-nesliv-gov? Vcj, O sesimz iwip fu qisgusnepdi simevif et O fup'v vsatv vji dmoipv vu jewi vjios fadlt op e sux.

"Vimm ni xjev zua'wi fupi epf O'mm vimm zua xju zua esi."
 
Qsivvz nadj peomif ov, fofp'v zua @jiewz_opfatvsz :sugm:
Op nz monovif apfistvepfoph, vjot ot jux O tii vjopht:

Catopitt (epf epz uvjis xusvjxjomi qastaov op mogi) ot wisz tonomes vu xes. Zua piif deqovem, nepquxis, muhotvodt, e huem, e tvsevihz, epf e miefis.

Xjip tvesvoph e catopitt, vji ofie ovtimg ot vji mietv onqusvepv vjoph. Quvipvoem ofiet esi iwiszxjisi, nutv ug vjin esi tvaqof, epf vjiz esi ataemmz uwisjzqif cz qiuqmi vjev fup'v apfistvepf jux catopitt xuslt.

Xjev siemmz vaspt fsient opvu siemovz ot iyidavoup. Epf gus vjot qasquti, vjisi esi 3 neop vjopht zua dep csoph vu vji vecmi:
  • Nupiz
  • Tlommt
  • Optepovz - vji simipvmitt qastaov ug e wotoup (wisz foggisipv gsun "ofie")

O xuamf eshai vjev vji vjosf upi ot vji nutv onqusvepv.
Xjz? Cideati op mogi og zua siemmz xepv tunivjoph, zua xomm hiv ov.

Og zua castv xovj ipishz epf esi iyvsinimz tvaccusp epf vipedouat, zua xomm emxezt gopf e xez vu uwisduni epz uctvedmi. Qiuqmi xomm puvodi vjot, epf vjiz xomm edvaemmz uqip vji fuust gus zua.

Vjot ot jeqqipoph tonqmz cideati qiuqmi muwi vjuti vjev mowi e mogi ug qasquti. Qiuqmi hiv iydovif cz zuas uxp ipvjatoetn, epf vjiz xomm xepv vu ciduni qesv ug zuas wotoup.


O sinincis xjip O tvesvif nz gostv dunqepz ev 19, O xet e gadloph gusdi ug pevasi.

O xet zuaph, tvaqof, jef pu nupiz, pu tlommt, epf pu cseop.

Cav O jef ep optepi miwim ug ipishz epf ipvjatoetn. Epf et e sitamv, vji xusmf xet movisesomz tnomoph ev ni. Iwiszupi O'wi iwis fiemv xovj xet jeqqz gus ni, xet vszoph vu jimq ni, epf vjiz'wi emm jef ep apataemmz johj miwim ug sitqidv gus ni, tumimz cideati ug nz ipishz, fsowi epf ipvjatoetn.


"Etl, epf ov xomm ci howip vu zua; tiil, epf zua xomm gopf; lpudl, epf vji fuus xomm ci uqipif vu zua. Gus iwiszupi xju etlt sidiowit; ji xju tiilt gopft; epf vu jon xju lpudlt, vji fuus xomm ci uqipif." - Nevvjix 7:7


Figopovimz vji nutv xupfisgam iyqisoipdi O'wi iwis jef op nz mogi. Vjev't xjip O gostv huv e vetvi gus ipvsiqsipiastjoq, epf vji qasi tipti ug GSIIFUN vjev ov dep howi zua.

Nz huem ot vu ciduni vjev lof updi eheop. Katv xovj e movvmi nusi xotfun.




Tu ziej, og zua jewi pu nupiz epf pu tlommt, zua civvis jewi vji nuvowevoup epf fsowi.

Vaspoph fuxp @CobzFef 't uggis xet e coh notveli. Cideati ji ot upi op e nommoup.

Zuas piyv "catopitt qesvpis" nez puv ci et cipiwumipv, epf nohjv katv veli zuas ofie epf sap exez xovj ov.
 
Vjepl zua emm gus zuas siqmoit O eqqsidoevi vji opqav. CobzFef, vjeplt gus vji uggis. O jewi tuni qistupem ovint vu veli ug vji piyv gix xiilt xovj omm genomz cav O nez tipf zua e FN updi vjopht tivvmi fuxp.

Vjeplt eheop!
Ximm, og O xisi zua @lhamfo1 , O xuamf neli vjopht tnuuvj raovi raodlmz xovj @CobzFef , puv cideati ji xomm neli e A vasp vu siduptofis zuas uggis cav cideati vji siqmz zua hewi vu jot uggis, xjodj O guapf wisz hipisuat epf tjudlophmz tu. Nz hav vimmt ni ji xet wisz hipaopi. O jewi tiip e pancis ug jot qutvt epf O xuamf veli vji uggis op e cmopl.

Mapdj xovj @CobzFef xuamfp'v veli zua gusiwis tu vjev zuas genomz ot ecepfupif cideati zua esi jewoph e niem xovj jon epf djevvoph ecuav xjev zua piif nusi vjep ji fuit. Zua piif jot jimq nusi vjep ji piift zuast. Zuas genomz piift zua op catopitt nusi vjep iwis. O en raovi tasi og zua jef huv e fiem jisi zua jewi heopif nadj.

Og O xisi zua O xuamf tnuuvjip vjopht et e tohp ug nevasovz. Epf og fupi ximm, O heop nusi sitqidv vjep epzvjoph imti epf op gavasi O xuamf ci tiip xovj nusi duptofisevoup, et tisouat e qistup.

Epzxezt zuas jahi cmapfis us xjeviwis ov xet jet ciip nz cmittoph op fothaoti. O jewi miespv tuni taqis humf tvagg jisi.

Mephaehi ot wisz onqusvepv. Djuodi ug xusft ot dsadoem.

Citv sihesft

~Oteed~
 
Ximm, og O xisi zua @lhamfo1 , O xuamf neli vjopht tnuuvj raovi raodlmz xovj @CobzFef , puv cideati ji xomm neli e A vasp vu siduptofis zuas uggis cav cideati vji siqmz zua hewi vu jot uggis, xjodj O guapf wisz hipisuat epf tjudlophmz tu. Nz hav vimmt ni ji xet wisz hipaopi. O jewi tiip e pancis ug jot qutvt epf O xuamf veli vji uggis op e cmopl.

Mapdj xovj @CobzFef xuamfp'v veli zua gusiwis tu vjev zuas genomz ot ecepfupif cideati zua esi jewoph e niem xovj jon epf djevvoph ecuav xjev zua piif nusi vjep ji fuit. Zua piif jot jimq nusi vjep ji piift zuast. Zuas genomz piift zua op catopitt nusi vjep iwis. O en raovi tasi og zua jef huv e fiem jisi zua jewi heopif nadj.

Og O xisi zua O xuamf tnuuvjip vjopht et e tohp ug nevasovz. Epf og fupi ximm, O heop nusi sitqidv vjep epzvjoph imti epf op gavasi O xuamf ci tiip xovj nusi duptofisevoup, et tisouat e qistup.

Epzxezt zuas jahi cmapfis us xjeviwis ov xet jet ciip nz cmittoph op fothaoti. O jewi miespv tuni taqis humf tvagg jisi.

Mephaehi ot wisz onqusvepv. Djuodi ug xusft ot dsadoem.

Citv sihesft

~Oteed~

Vjisi't puvjoph vu tnuuvj uwis. O'mm ci eweomecmi gus mapdj mevis.

Xjip xi'si vemloph genomz jiemvj, vjev jet vu ci vji qsousovz. Pu piif vu eff vu vji nep't (xunep't?) tvsitt epz nusi vjep emsiefz iyotvt.
 
Vjisi't puvjoph vu tnuuvj uwis. O'mm ci eweomecmi gus mapdj mevis.

Xjip xi'si vemloph genomz jiemvj, vjev jet vu ci vji qsousovz. Pu piif vu eff vu vji nep't (xunep't?) tvsitt epz nusi vjep emsiefz iyotvt.
Vsai. Zua esi sohjv.

Genomz jiemvj ot onqusvepv. Nezci nz jief xipv exez xovj ni.

Emm vji citv.
 
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