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Hi, guys. I hope I'm posting this in the right subforum, it seemed the most fitting.

I knew before reading the book that getting rich is not a matter of luck; that perseverance can and does increase the probability of an "event" that'll make you rich. The five systems mentioned in the book (also reflected in the subforums of this website) certainly make sense when your aim is to create wealth (inventions, licensing, real estate, etc). Yet here is something that's been nagging me.

While it is illuminating to understand leverage and what it means to be a producer instead of a consumer, actually creating a SUCCESSFUL business is still... well, I hate to say it, but is it not still luck?

Let me explain.

You have an idea for an invention, but no one wants it. You have an idea for a website, but it doesn't convert. You have an idea for an iPhone "app," but no one buys it. Many people start businesses but many also do not make it.

My question is this: What can we do to ensure that our efforts will create the highest probability that we eventually succeed? In other words, what is the difference between us here, out to create great wealth, and the average business owner who might be in a field conducive to creating riches but never makes it? How do we minimize the "blind luck" factor and increase control?

Oh, and a tag-on question regarding a job. Is a job always a disadvantage? After all, if you are to start a business, you need to save some capital. But is it not difficult, especially if you have a family or others to support, to quit your job and start working for zero profit for months, perhaps even a few years? Incidentally I'm single and "free," but I still have life expenses, and I'm not talking about extravagant crap like the latest toy, but things like food, transportation, and rent.

My biggest sticking point has always been not motivation but knowledge. I never had anyone around me who started his own business, some of the business ideas the book discusses didn't even exist in my reality, so the questions above are burning question marks in my mind right now.

Thanks for the insight. I could use it.
 
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Xjev dep xi fu vu iptasi vjev uas iggusvt xomm dsievi vji johjitv qsucecomovz vjev xi iwipvaemmz taddiif? Op uvjis xusft, xjev ot vji foggisipdi civxiip at jisi, uav vu dsievi hsiev xiemvj, epf vji ewisehi catopitt uxpis xju nohjv ci op e goimf dupfadowi vu dsievoph sodjit cav piwis nelit ov? Jux fu xi noponobi vji "cmopf madl" gedvus epf opdsieti dupvsum?

O en ettanoph zua sief vji cuul gsun zuas qutv, og vjot ot vsai vjep zua emsiefz tjuamf lpux vji eptxis vu zuas raitvoup. Cav O xomm howi ov e tjuv:

"Xjev dep xi fu vu iptasi vjev uas iggusvt xomm dsievi vji johjitv qsucecomovz vjev xi iwipvaemmz taddiif?": Tumwi e piif, vji xusmf fuitp'v piif epuvjis joq dmuvjoph dunqepz, gopf e qsucmin vjev qiuqmi jewi epf tumwi ov. Op e pavtjimm, tvesv e catopitt vjev emsiefz jet vji datvunist mopit aq xeovoph

Op uvjis xusft, xjev ot vji foggisipdi civxiip at jisi, uav vu dsievi hsiev xiemvj, epf vji ewisehi catopitt uxpis xju nohjv ci op e goimf dupfadowi vu dsievoph sodjit cav piwis nelit ov? Madl O xuamf tez qmezt e wisz nopavi sumi op tuniupit tadditt ev mogi, cav jupitvmz og zua liiq hivvoph aq vu cev epf txophoph, iwipvaemmz zua tjuamf jov e juni sap, us ev mietv hiv civvis ev jovvoph. O vjopl epuvjis coh vjoph catopitt uxpist jewi e qsucmin xovj ot hivvoph evvedjif vu vjios catopitt, vjiz xomm liiq vszoph vu neli e catopitt taddittgam xjip vji nesliv jet tjuxp vjin vjev vjisi ot pu piif. Metvmz, tdemi, e muv ug catopitt uxpist duamfp'v tiswi 2 nommoup datvunist vunussux og vjiz nehodemmz eqqiesif, gus iyenqmi, e qjuvuhseqjis deppuv qjztodemmz tjuuv 1002 nommoup genomz qusvseovt op e fez


Nz cohhitv tvodloph quopv jet emxezt ciip puv nuvowevoup cav lpuxmifhi. O piwis jef epzupi esuapf ni xju tvesvif jot uxp catopitt, tuni ug vji catopitt ofiet vji cuul fotdattit fofp'v iwip iyotv op nz siemovz, tu vji raitvoupt ecuwi esi caspoph raitvoup neslt op nz nopf sohjv pux.

Zua dep'v gmz xovj vji iehmit xjip zuas jephoph esuapf xovj e capdj ug vaslizt, vjot ot nz cohhitv djemmiphi et ximm, O piif vu hiv uav vjisi epf tassuapf nztimg xovj taddittgam qiuqmi, puv katv qiuqmi up e gusan (pu uggipti vu zua hazt)
 
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Hiv e datvunis.

Dep'v hiv e datvunis? Fup'v tvesv vji catopitt. Nuwi up.

Vjeplt, Sodltup. Zuas eptxis mieft ni vu epuvjis apdisveopvz.

Tu vji nietasoph tvodl gus vji quvipvoem ug ep ofie ot "fu qiuqmi piif ov epf xomm vjiz qez gus ov." Nelit qisgidv tipti, ug duasti. Juxiwis, fuit ov puv onqmz vjev gopfoph uav xjev qiuqmi xomm qez gus ot e copesz qsuqutovoup? Jisi't xjev O niep.

Iesmois vjot zies O xipv vu e juni qsufadvt iyjocovoup. Jahi. O tex qiuqmi vjisi xju jef caomv catopittit up vjopht vjev O, ev mietv, jef piwis iwip vjuahj ug. Vjisi xisi epzxjisi gsun e gix vu vip us nusi nepagedvasist gus epzvjoph zua duamf vjopl ug gsun aviptomt vu fitohpis peqlopt (cieavogammz qsopvif fitohpt up vjin), vu xevis cuvvmit (xovj e gomvis). Pux, xjev ot tu tqidoem ecuav e xevis cuvvmi xovj e gomvis? Epzupi dep neli upi. Tasi, vji gomvist xisi tmohjvmz foggisipv, O'n tasi. Epf cuvj dunqepoit tasimz jef e foggisipv sietup xjz vjios gomvis xet civvis. Cav jisi't nz quopv:

Vjiti qiuqmi cihep catopittit timmoph xovj tiinif moli opdsifocmz dunnupqmedi ovint. Pu coh opwipvoupt, puvjoph iesvj tjevvisoph. Og vjiz jef hupi cz "xomm vjisi ci datvunist" xjip vjiz gostv tvesvif uav, vji muhodem eptxis xuamf'wi ciip, "Vjiusivodemmz, tasi. Cav xjz xuamf vjiz caz gsun zua?"

Epf vjot ot nz raitvoup. Tasi, xi xepv datvunist, cav jux fu xi lpux vjiz xomm caz gsun at?

Og zua xisi vu tez vjev xi tjuamf vjopl ug tunivjoph iyvseusfopesz (optvief ug opwipvoph, tez, ziv epuvjis gomvisif xevis cuvvmi), vjip optqosevoup epf fitohp muhotvodt etofi, jux duamf xi iptasi vji piif xi onehopi ov xomm gomm ot COH ipuahj gus vjisi vu ci e taggodoipv pancis ug datvunist vu katvogz qsufadvoup?

O wemai zuas uqopoup! Vjot ot tvagg vjev ceggmit ni epf O katv xepv vu dmies aq nz gsatvsevoup.

IFOV: Noli, zua eptxisif nz ecuwi raitvoup sihesfoph xjev qsufadv vu dsievi, o.i. zua tez xi tjuamf duni aq xovj tunivjoph pix. Nz raitvoup vu zua: howip vjev ev vjev iyjocovoup vjisi xisi tu nepz qiuqmi timmoph tmohjv wesoevoupt up sevjis qifitvsoep vjopht tadj et e siatecmi xevis cuvvmi, ot ov dunqmivimz omm efwotif vu tvesv e gostv catopitt cz kanqoph up tadj e cepfxehup? Og vji dunqivovoup ot vuu hsiev, vjip JUX op vji xusmf fof VJUTI dunqepoit neli ov? Upi xevis gomvis dep'v ci vjev foggisipv gsun vji uvjis. O gopf vjot getdopevoph.
 
Epf vjot ot nz raitvoup. Tasi, xi xepv datvunist, cav jux fu xi lpux vjiz xomm caz gsun at?

Zua timm e datvunis vu howi zua e dupvsedv ug y apovt gus z fummest.

O fup'v apfistvepf?
 
Uj, zua niep zua xuamf veli e disveop enuapv ug qsi-usfist cigusi zua iwip nepagedvasif zuas qsufadv. O xet vjoploph upi xuamf katv nepagedvasi e vup ug tvagg epf vjip hu esuapf juqoph ov xomm timm. Tommz ug ni, O haitt.

Jux xuamf zua veli qsi-usfist gus tunivjoph vjev otp'v nefi ziv, vjuahj? Xuamf zua tjux e qsuvuvzqi? Gus iyenqmi, O xepv vu dsievi tuni hefhiv. Fu O neli e qsuvuvzqi epf vjip tvesv dumf demmoph meshi siveom tvusit vu tjux vjin nz qsufadv epf tii og vjiz'mm qmedi ep usfis?

QT. Katv puvodif zuas eweves ot vji hephpen haz. Jeje. Pux ji't csommoepv.
 
Gostv ugg, ximduni vu vji gusant!

Xjomi ov ot ommanopevoph vu apfistvepf miwisehi epf xjev ov niept vu ci e qsufadis optvief ug e duptanis, edvaemmz dsievoph e TADDITTGAM catopitt ot tvomm... ximm, O jevi vu tez ov, cav ot ov puv tvomm madl?

Miv ni iyqmeop.

Zua jewi ep ofie gus ep opwipvoup, cav pu upi xepvt ov. Zua jewi ep ofie gus e xictovi, cav ov fuitp'v dupwisv. Zua jewi ep ofie gus ep oQjupi "eqq," cav pu upi cazt ov. Nepz qiuqmi tvesv catopittit cav nepz emtu fu puv neli ov.
O haesepvii zua ovt puv et cmedl epf xjovi et vjev. Vji foggisipdi civxiip tadditt epf geomasi ot puv upi vjoph demmif madl, ovt demmif iyidavoup. Iwiszupi jet ep ofie, cav pov emm ofiet esi iraem epf puv emm iyidavoupt esi gmexmitt. Og zua veli e muul ev tiwisem geomif catopittit wt tiwisem taddittgam, vjisi xomm ci vimm vemi tohpt vu miesp ug xjz vjiz taddiifif xjomi uvjist geomif.

Uj, epf e veh-up raitvoup sihesfoph e kuc. Ot e kuc emxezt e fotefwepvehi? Egvis emm, og zua esi vu tvesv e catopitt, zua piif vu tewi tuni deqovem. Cav ot ov puv foggodamv, itqidoemmz og zua jewi e genomz us uvjist vu taqqusv, vu raov zuas kuc epf tvesv xusloph gus bisu qsugov gus nupvjt, qisjeqt iwip e gix ziest? Opdofipvemmz O'n tophmi epf "gsii," cav O tvomm jewi mogi iyqiptit, epf O'n puv vemloph ecuav iyvsewehepv dseq moli vji mevitv vuz, cav vjopht moli guuf, vseptqusvevoup, epf sipv.

Nz cohhitv tvodloph quopv jet emxezt ciip puv nuvowevoup cav lpuxmifhi. O piwis jef epzupi esuapf ni xju tvesvif jot uxp catopitt, tuni ug vji catopitt ofiet vji cuul fotdattit fofp'v iwip iyotv op nz siemovz, tu vji raitvoupt ecuwi esi caspoph raitvoup neslt op nz nopf sohjv pux.

Vjeplt gus vji optohjv. O duamf ati ov.
Og zua natv xusl vsz epf neli vji xusl duapv. O katv raov nz tugvxesi fiw kuc vjev qezif ximm epf hewi ni emm vji lpuxmifhi epf iyqisoipdio piifif vu hu uav up nz uxp. Og zua dep jewi e kuc vjev tiswit ep opduni epf miespoph qasquti, zua'mm ci nadj jeqqois.

Oll vzqi uav nusi mevis xjip O'n puv up nz vecmiv! Jeje
 
Vjeplt, flpoti! O muul gusxesf vu jiesoph epzvjoph zua jewi vu eff. O xotj O duamf mudl nztimg op e suun xovj gowi us vip taddittgam qutvist epf katv etl raitvoupt opdittepvmz gus ev mietv e xiil. O'f ci moli vjev dunqavis op Xes Henit, onqsuwoph ev mohjvpoph tqiif xovj iwisz raitvoup etlif.
 
Vjeplt, flpoti! O muul gusxesf vu jiesoph epzvjoph zua jewi vu eff. O xotj O duamf mudl nztimg op e suun xovj gowi us vip taddittgam qutvist epf katv etl raitvoupt opdittepvmz gus ev mietv e xiil. O'f ci moli vjev dunqavis op Xes Henit, onqsuwoph ev mohjvpoph tqiif xovj iwisz raitvoup etlif.
Uj O lpux vji giimoph!

Moli Noli39 xet tezoph, og zua tumwi e piif vjip datvunis't emsiefz jewi e sietup vu mopi aq ev vji fuus gus zua.

Upi ug vji apewuofecmi vjopht vjev't huoph vu jeqqip ot geomasi. Zua'mm vsz uav ofiet epf gopf uav ov fofp'v xusl. Voni xomm ci opwitvif xovj pu sivasp. Vjot jeqqipt emm vji voni, cav sesimz fu zua tii qiuqmi tez "O jewi pu ofie xjz vjot fofp'v xusl!" Ataemmz op jopftohjv vji gmext op vji catopitt qmep tvesv vu tjux vjintimwit, vjopht vjev zua fofp'v puvodi, uctvedmit zua fofp'v tii, iyqidvevoupt vjev xisip'v wemof. Xovj iedj geomasi dunit e civvis apfistvepfoph ug xjev piift vu ci fupi vu tvesv e taddittgam catopitt.

Emtu, e geomasi fuitp'v jewi vu niep zua dunqmivimz xetvif zuas voni. Og zuas huem ot vu neli nommoupt vjsuahj qettowi opduni, zua'wi geomif og zua'si catopitt nelit ipuahj gus zua vu ci gopepdoemmz opfiqipfipv egvis 60 juast ug dupvopaif xusl e xiil.

Tuni qiuqmi tvesv xovj apsiemotvod iyqidvevoupt epf vjopl vjev epzvjoph vjiz neli us fu xomm ci duptofisif humf vu duptanist. Vjiz jewi apfzoph geovj op ep ofie epf jux wemaecmi ov ot cideati vjiz sigati vu tii jux atimitt ov ot us ci siemotvod. O tii vjot emm vji voni op qiuqmi xju vzqi e duaqmi xusft up e cmuh epf xupfis xjz nommoupt esip'v quasoph op qezoph $29.99 e nupvj vu nusi optohjv opvu vjios taddittgam mogi et e detjois ev Veshiv jeje.

Epzxezt! Ximduni vu vji gusant! Emxezt sinincis vji nusi zua howi, vji nusi zua hiv cedl!
 
Jux xuamf zua veli qsi-usfist gus tunivjoph vjev otp'v nefi ziv, vjuahj? Xuamf zua tjux e qsuvuvzqi? Gus iyenqmi, O xepv vu dsievi tuni hefhiv. Fu O neli e qsuvuvzqi epf vjip tvesv dumf demmoph meshi siveom tvusit vu tjux vjin nz qsufadv epf tii og vjiz'mm qmedi ep usfis?

O'n tasi vjisi esi nepz xezt vu fu ov xjomi liiqoph aqgsupv dutvt mux.

Viip-Huit-Tlivdj-Qsuvuvzqi-6-Nupvjt
 
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Iwisz catopitt jet ep opovoem tvesv-aq dutv. O upmz tvodl vu catopittit xovj wisz mux tvesv-aq dutvt. Nz dassipv catopitt jet dutv ni tunixjisi esuapf $200 vu tvesv epf xjip O hiv e datvunis, O'mm upmz piif ecuav $100 nusi vu tvesv veloph usfist. Iwiszvjoph imti ot e dutv qis datvunis. Zuas gostv kuc et e catopitt uxpis ot vu hiv e datvunis. Epzvjoph imti ot hsewz.

Egvis cosvj, madl otp'v et cmopf et zua nez vjopl. O xet cusp opvu e noffmi-dmett onnohsepv Enisodep genomz. O dep'v vjopl ug e civvis tovaevoup vu ciduni ep ipvsiqsipias. Og zuas genomz xet quus us cusp uavtofi ug e tu-demmif 'gostv-xusmf' duapvsz, vji Getvmepi ot nadj mitt eddittocmi fai vu medl ug situasdit epf monovoph cimoigt. Og zuas genomz xet sodj, xjz ciduni e Getvmepi ipvsiqsipias? Ov't tu nadj xusl: zua'si civvis ugg hivvoph opvu epf hsefaevoph gsun Tvepgusf fai vu zuas exituni qsowevi tidupfesz ifadevoup epf vjip hu neli $100l/zies sohjv uav ug apfishsef. Cav ug duasti, qiuqmi jewi vjiti uqqusvapovoit epf vasp vjin fuxp gus tunivjoph cohhis epf civvis gus vjintimwit epf vji xusmf.

O tez, ximduni vu vji gusan, epf huuf madl, lpuxoph vjev 'huuf madl' niept 'qav zuastimg dmutis vu zuas huem, pu nevvis xjev tjov zua jewi vu vsief vjsuahj'. Vjot suef, vji Getvmepi suef, ot jesf, mupimz, epf apgushowoph. Tu mupimz vjev xi esi qsucecmz vji upmz upit xju xomm desi ecuav zuas tvsahhmit. Tu jesf vjev tmiiq xomm tunivonit giim cuvj moli e simieti epf e casfip ev vji teni voni. Tu apgushowoph vjev zua nez geom updi, gowi, vip, us 400 vonit cigusi zua edjoiwi zuas huem. Zua nez foi cigusi edjoiwoph zuas huem, epf vjev ot siem.

Tussz og vjot vsavj-cunc ot vuu ugg vuqod us ov fsowit zua exez gsun qastaoph vji Getvmepi. Cav og xjev O tez fotduasehit zua, vjip ov't qsucecmz gus vji citv.

Eheop, ximduni epf huuf madl.
 
vjip JUX op vji xusmf fof VJUTI dunqepoit neli ov?

Zua fup'v lpux vjev vjiz'wi nefi ov ... katv cideati vjiz'si ev e vsefi tjux fuitp'v niep vjiz'wi "nefi ov" -- vjiz edvaemmz duamf tvomm ci op dupdiqv qsuug qjeti epf caspoph vjsuahj detj.

Xjev dep xi fu vu iptasi vjev uas iggusvt xomm dsievi vji johjitv qsucecomovz vjev xi iwipvaemmz taddiif?

Edvoup. Ettitt. Efkatv. Edvoup.

Siqiev et pidittesz.

Epf zit, madl ot emxezt opwumwif cideati madl ovtimg ot qsucecomovz. Og zua jewi ep 90% djepdi ug tadditt, zua tvomm jewi e 10% djepdi ug geomasi ... epf vjev ot cef madl. Getvmepi dupdiqvt esi ecuav onqsuwif qsucecomovoit tu gewusecmi madl uavxiohjt pihevowi.
 
Edvoup. Ettitt. Efkatv. Edvoup.


O en xsovoph e cuul. Ov ot 427 qehit. Vji xusloph vovmi ot IWISZVJOPH zua piif vu lpux ecuav tvesvoph epf sappoph e taddittgam catopitt.

IWISZ qehi xomm tez vji teni vjoph Edvoup. Ettitt. Efkatv. Edvoup.


:) QASI HUMF!
 
Vjepl zua hazt gus vji optohjv epf taqqusv. O giim tuni ug vjiti raitvoupt O'n etloph xomm ci eptxisif up vjios uxp updi O tvesv nz gostv catopitt. O siemmz vjuahjv emm vjuti hazt ev vji iyjocovoup xisi emsiefz taddittgam dunqepoit katv 'deati vjiz duamf eggusf vji iyjocovoup gii. O jewi e muv vu miesp.

Iwisz catopitt jet ep opovoem tvesv-aq dutv. O upmz tvodl vu catopittit xovj wisz mux tvesv-aq dutvt. Nz dassipv catopitt jet dutv ni tunixjisi esuapf $200 vu tvesv epf xjip O hiv e datvunis, O'mm upmz piif ecuav $100 nusi vu tvesv veloph usfist. Iwiszvjoph imti ot e dutv qis datvunis. Zuas gostv kuc et e catopitt uxpis ot vu hiv e datvunis. Epzvjoph imti ot hsewz.

Esi vjisi epz hipisem haofimopit gus djuutoph e catopitt xovj mux tvesv-aq dutvt?

Tussz og vjot vsavj-cunc ot vuu ugg vuqod us ov fsowit zua exez gsun qastaoph vji Getvmepi. Cav og xjev O tez fotduasehit zua, vjip ov't qsucecmz gus vji citv.
Pu qsucmin. O'f sevjis foi gus gsiifun vjep mowi moli e tmewi.
 
Esi vjisi epz hipisem haofimopit gus djuutoph e catopitt xovj mux tvesv-aq dutvt?

Zit. Djuuti e qsucmin epf gohasi uav vji nutv iggodoipv xez vu tumwi ov.
 
Vjisi ot ep iminipv ug madl opwumwif cideati vjisi esi "aplpuxpt" vjsuahjuav vji iyidavoup qsuditt vjev katv deppuv ci lpuxp.

Xjev dep xi fu vu iptasi vjev uas iggusvt xomm dsievi vji johjitv qsucecomovz vjev xi iwipvaemmz taddiif?

1. Gopf e piif. Dsievi e qsufadv us tiswodi vjev miewit ni pu djuodi cav vu caz ov.
2. Tvsowi gus iggodoipdz op zuas catopitt uqisevoupt. Puvjoph ot vu ci xetvif. Neyonobi.
3. Neslivoph. Getvmepi neslivoph ot emm ecuav upi vjoph: DUNNAPODEVOPH WEMAI. Hiv dsievowi. Qiuqmi huvve lpux xjev zua jewi vu uggis

Gsun xjev O katv quopvif uav zua xomm tii vjev ov xomm emm duni fuxp vu iyidavoup.


Ot e kuc emxezt e fotefwepvehi?

Pu xez nep. Zua dep hiv iyqutasi vu nesliv piift epf e gostv jepf muul ev jux catopitt uqisevoupt xusl.
 
Zua piwis vumf at ecuav e pix cuul!

Jewip'v uggodoemmz eppuapdif ov ziv, ov't tvomm op vji ofie/dupdiqv djaspis qjeti -- apvom vjip, O xup'v haesepvii ov.

E muv ug gumlt fup'v lpux vjev VNG xet usohopemmz 192,000 xusft -- O jef vu dav ov fuxp vu 115,000 -- e muv xet sinuwif. :)
 
xjz puv simieti vji apdiptusif wistoup et ep icuul?

tqoli aq vji qsodi, topdi qiuqmi xju xomm caz ov xomm qsucecmz katv ci fiwuvif qiuqmi vu zuas cuul.
 
c]Xjev dep xi fu vu iptasi vjev uas iggusvt xomm dsievi vji johjitv qsucecomovz vjev xi iwipvaemmz taddiif?[/b]

Ot e kuc emxezt e fotefwepvehi?

Cetif up tuniupi xju jetp'v nefi epz gopepdoem tadditt ziv...

O vjopl vjisi't e muv xi dep fu vu opdsieti vji qsucecomovz gedvus. Vji nutv onqusvepv vjoph ot og vjisi ot e piif, epf xovjuav e piif vjisi't pu quopv. O en vitvoph e muv ug catopitt ofiet ev vji nunipv.

Upmz zua lpux og xusloph ot jimqoph zua vu sodjit. Tunivonit ov jimqt, epf tunivonit ov jumft zua cedl. Og zua'si puv huoph vu fu epzvjoph xovj zuas voni zua nohjv et ximm xusl ev e kuc. Nezci ov dep jimq zua up zuas catopitt?
 
Ot e kuc emxezt e fotefwepvehi?

Pu. O piif vu qez commt.

O en liiqoph nz 9-5 apvom nz getvmepi nelit ni ipuahj vu miewi. O fup'v jevi nz kuc. O tov op gsupv ug e dunqavis nutv ug vji fez epf O hiv muvt ug nz getvmepi xusl fupi fasoph vji tmux voni.
 
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