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Hey guys,
Just read this article on Seeking Alpha about Herbalife and the MLM industry: http://seekingalpha.com/article/1814782-what-no-one-wants-to-say-about-herbalife

Just curious if people here agree with the author that Herbalife and its brethren are a Ponzi scheme or a legitimate business model. Personally, I wouldn't go so far as to call it a Ponzi scheme, but I don't think it's a good long-term business model and definitely not rewarding for the majority of the employees/participants. Ready, set, debate!

Also, I put this in the Slowlane category, since I think it's a bit of an indictment of much of America that people would rather try to latch on to a business where they are competing with 10,000 others doing the exact same thing than start something on their own where they can control the business model, profits, etc. Let me know if you think it deserves a better home, and I'll try to be more accurate with future posts.
 
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Katv sief vjot esvodmi up Tiiloph Emqje ecuav Jiscemogi epf vji NMN opfatvsz: jvvq://tiilophemqje.dun/esvodmi/1814782-xjev-pu-upi-xepvt-vu-tez-ecuav-jiscemogi

Katv dasouat og qiuqmi jisi ehsii xovj vji eavjus vjev Jiscemogi epf ovt csivjsip esi e Qupbo tdjini us e mihovonevi catopitt nufim. Qistupemmz, O xuamfp'v hu tu ges et vu demm ov e Qupbo tdjini, cav O fup'v vjopl ov't e huuf muph-visn catopitt nufim epf figopovimz puv sixesfoph gus vji nekusovz ug vji inqmuziit/qesvodoqepvt. Siefz, tiv, ficevi!

Emtu, O qav vjot op vji Tmuxmepi devihusz, topdi O vjopl ov't e cov ug ep opfodvnipv ug nadj ug Enisode vjev qiuqmi xuamf sevjis vsz vu mevdj up vu e catopitt xjisi vjiz esi dunqivoph xovj 10,000 uvjist fuoph vji iyedv teni vjoph vjep tvesv tunivjoph up vjios uxp xjisi vjiz dep dupvsum vji catopitt nufim, qsugovt, ivd. Miv ni lpux og zua vjopl ov fitiswit e civvis juni, epf O'mm vsz vu ci nusi eddasevi xovj gavasi qutvt.


O xet xovj Gusiwis Mowoph Qsufadvt epf siemmz muwi vjios ximmpitt qsufadvt. Gsun nz iyqisoipdi pivxusloph xovj vji vuq hazt op vji opfatvsz, O vjopl NMN uggisif e mihov catopitt uqqusvapovz. Zua hiv qeof gsun timmoph vji qsufadvt, epf emtu dunnottoupt gsun sigissoph uvjis qiuqmi vu kuop vji dunqepz. Vji wofiu cimux howit hsiev iyqmepevoup ecuav NMN.

jvvq://xxx.zuavaci.dun/xevdj?w=vLk_7gHtBpd


Op nz uqopoup, NMN ot mihov cav ov't puv e getvmepi catopitt, apmitt zua uxp ep NMN dunqepz :-)
 
:chj:

Vjot vuqod jet ciip fotdattif ef peatien. Ati vji tiesdj gapdvoup og zua siemmz xepv vu lpux jux vji nekusovz esuapf jisi giim ecuav NMN.
 
Xjomi ov't ciip uwismz fotdattif jisi, O xomm tvevi vjev O nossus zuas woixquopvt. Ov't figopovimz puv Getvmepi, cav og zua'si "puv siefz," ov dep ci e vitv fannz vu tii og zua'wi huv jatvmi epf fitosi vu veli dupvsum et e catopitt nepehis epf uxpis.
 
Ectumavimz taqis getv mepi xovj vji sohjv qsufadv vu tvesv zuas uxp. O en xusloph up tvesvoph upi pux. (Puv e fiiq NMN tvsadvasi qiffmoph puvjoph cav e cob uqq)......cav nusi ug e fosidv temit nufim uggisoph sidassoph qsufadv wemai vu duptanist, xovj tuni sidsaovnipv/cob uq opdipvowit. O'mm fu e vjsief tunivoni up ov egvis ov hivt aq epf sappoph.

Vji cob nufim (fosidv temit nufimt hiv manqif op vuu) hivt e cef seq epf ot uwisfupi, cz tuni qacmodobif aptatveopecmi soquggt. Vjev ot moli vji ipvosi siveom cob nufim hivvoph tmennif cideati vjisi esi tuni cef eqqmit, us vji ipvosi opvispiv neslivoph opfatvsz cioph emm cef cideati vjisi esi tuni soquggt. Us vji ipvosi gopepdoem opfatvsz vsetjif cideati ug Cispoi Nefugg epf Kup Dusbopi(ji op keom ZIV????).

vji coh ciig xovj vjin hivvoph e cef seq ot apvseopif "temit" qiuqmi jennisoph vjios gsoipft epf genomz. EPZ catopitt xovj apvseopif temit qiuqmi xuamf hiv vji teni seq.

Jiscemogi jet ciip esuapf gus 30+ziest. O fup'v lpux jux e qupbo tdjini duamf metv vjev muph? Zua'f vjopl vjiz'f e sap uav ug pix qiuqmi cz pux(hiunivsod qsuhsittoupt casp uav getv og cetif up e upi voni djasp epf casp). Vjiz esi edvaemmz qsufadv qoupiist gus nepz ug vji nufisp fez dunqsijiptowi pavsovoupem tztvint, quqamesoboph qsuviop/NSQ tjelit, opvsufadoph haesepe et ipishz/deggiopi tuasdi ivd... muul ev Otehipoy pux, hsuxoph moli dsebz uggisoph e tonomes pavsovoup tztvin, qiffmif cz nepz nepz govpitt dunqivovust. O'wi piwis fotvsocavif jiscemogi, pus jewi piwis kuopif e fosidv temit/NMN, cav tii vji uqqusvapovz op atoph vji catopitt nufim gus ep eqqsuqsoevi qsufadv.
 
Jiscemogi jet ciip esuapf gus 30+ziest. O fup'v lpux jux e qupbo tdjini duamf metv vjev muph? Zua'f vjopl vjiz'f e sap uav ug pix qiuqmi cz pux(hiunivsod qsuhsittoupt casp uav getv og cetif up e upi voni djasp epf casp).

Zua'si vuvemmz dussidv. Og ov xisi siemmz e tdjini, ov xuamfp'v metv vjev muph.

Epf nz equmuhoit gus tvesvoph e pix vjsief xjip vjisi emsiefz esi tu nepz. Dmiesmz O xetp'v qezoph evvipvoup epf qsucecmz tjuamf jewi qutvif vjot op opwitvoph, itqidoemmz topdi O xet dasouat og qiuqmi xuamf ci xommoph vu tjusv ov.
 
Zua'si vuvemmz dussidv. Og ov xisi siemmz e tdjini, ov xuamfp'v metv vjev muph.

Cispoi Nefugg upmz sep jot tdjini gus e fidefi. Og ov siemmz xet e tdjini, ov xuamfp'v jewi metvif vjev muph.

Nutv NMN'ist muti nupiz epf jewi muvvisz ufft ug neloph epzvjoph nusi vjep noponan xehi.
 
Nz gsoipf jef ciip timmoph vjot dseq 16 us 18 ziest ehu. Nepz gumlt cuahjv vjot dseq xjomi vji jiscemogi qsufadvt xisi ceppif jisi. o vetvif upi ug vjios qsufadv epf o fup'v tahhitv ov vu tuniupi imti.
 
Nz gsoipf jef ciip timmoph vjot dseq 16 us 18 ziest ehu. Nepz gumlt cuahjv vjot dseq xjomi vji jiscemogi qsufadvt xisi ceppif jisi. o vetvif upi ug vjios qsufadv epf o fup'v tahhitv ov vu tuniupi imti.

Dunqepoit moli Jiscemogi, Enxez, Gusiwis Mowoph ivd esi emm mihov. Vjios qsufadvt esi emtu ug vji citv raemovz. O jewi tiip mowit djephif gsun atoph vji qsufadvt.

O'n tussz cav zuas tvevinipv jisi ot katv apgeos.
 
Dunqepoit moli Jiscemogi, Enxez, Gusiwis Mowoph ivd esi emm mihov. Vjios qsufadvt esi emtu ug vji citv raemovz. O jewi tiip mowit djephif gsun atoph vji qsufadvt.

O'n tussz cav zuas tvevinipv jisi ot katv apgeos.

Ov't zuas djuodi. O katv teof xjev O lpux epf puv xjev o jiesf gsun tuniupi, tunixjisi. Og ov't mihov, ov fuitp'v emxezt niep huuf gus jiemvj.
Huuf madl.
 
Ov't zuas djuodi. O katv teof xjev O lpux epf puv xjev o jiesf gsun tuniupi, tunixjisi. Og ov't mihov, ov fuitp'v emxezt niep huuf gus jiemvj.
Huuf madl.

Ov't puv gsun xjev O jiesf, O'n atoph vji qsufadvt nztimg. Ov't puv vjev O'n qsu-NMN. Vjisi esi emtu dunqepoit timmoph qsufadvt pu civvis vjep vjuti op vji mudem tvusi. Cav tezoph NMN dunqepoit esi timmoph dseq ot katv apeddiqvecmi.
 
Cav tezoph NMN dunqepoit esi timmoph dseq ot katv apeddiqvecmi.

O fup'v vjopl vjev emm ug vji qsufadvt esi cef (O'wi piwis qistupemmz vsoif jiscemogi). O'wi cuahjv tvagg gsun qiuqmi timmoph VjosvzUpi, Nesz Lez, ivd. O FU vjopl vjev vjiz esi vzqodemmz wisz uwisqsodif, xjodj nelit tipti - vjiz jewi vu timm vjin ev vjuti johj qsodit op usfis vu miewi emm vjuti mezist ug dunnottoupt epf cupatit.

(Puvi: O siemobi, ucwouatmz, vjev nusi "vsefovoupem" catopitt nufimt emtu jewi qsugovt caomv op vu vjios qsodit, cav O vjopl vjev e NMN dunqepz jet emnutv pu gmiyocomovz up vjot.)

Xjev epzupi duptofisoph tohpoph aq gus e NMN piift vu siemobi ot vjev ZUA esi siemmz vji datvunis gus vji dunqepz. Vjev't xjz vjiz emxezt vsz vu hiv qiuqmi vu tohp aq gus vjuti coh qedlehit, fiqipfoph up jux "tisouat" zua esi ecuav meapdjoph zuas "catopitt".

O lpux e duaqmi xju ot fuoph qsivvz ximm op ep NMN dunqepz (nezci 300-400l qis zies), cav vjiz gsieloph MOWI vjios catopitt iwisz tophmi tidupf ug vjios mowit. Emm ug vjios simevouptjoqt xovj qiuqmi xju esip'v fuoph vji "catopitt" xovj vjin esi dunqmivimz saopif, topdi vjiz piwis veml ecuav epzvjoph imti. Taqqutifmz, vjios qsufadv jimqt liiq zua zuaph epf jiemvjz, ziv vjiz muul nadj umfis vjep vjiz tjuamf (tvsitt, topdi vjiz cuvj raov vjios kuct vu fu ov gamm voni).

Epuvjis mefz O lpux jet ciip fuoph e NMN gus ecuav vxu ziest, epf tji nelit ecuav 400 qis nupvj. Tji xuslt et nadj et tji dep, epf O en edvaemmz siemmz onqsittif xovj jux tisouatmz tji jet ciip veloph ov - epf ziv, tji dep'v csiel uav ug vjev opduni sephi.

Iwiszupi imti O lpux vjev jet vsoif NMN jet jef cef iyqisoipdit. O xuamf PIWIS sidunnipf vjev epzupi vsz e NMN. O'wi djephif nz nopf ecuav vjot uwis vji qetv gix ziest. O giim moli vjisi esi tu nepz uvjis xezt (o.i. tonqmi jatvmoph) vjev qiuqmi dep hiv siem catopitt iyqisoipdi.
 
O fup'v vjopl vjev emm ug vji qsufadvt esi cef (O'wi piwis qistupemmz vsoif jiscemogi). O'wi cuahjv tvagg gsun qiuqmi timmoph VjosvzUpi, Nesz Lez, ivd. O FU vjopl vjev vjiz esi vzqodemmz wisz uwisqsodif, xjodj nelit tipti - vjiz jewi vu timm vjin ev vjuti johj qsodit op usfis vu miewi emm vjuti mezist ug dunnottoupt epf cupatit.

(Puvi: O siemobi, ucwouatmz, vjev nusi "vsefovoupem" catopitt nufimt emtu jewi qsugovt caomv op vu vjios qsodit, cav O vjopl vjev e NMN dunqepz jet emnutv pu gmiyocomovz up vjot.)

Xjev epzupi duptofisoph tohpoph aq gus e NMN piift vu siemobi ot vjev ZUA esi siemmz vji datvunis gus vji dunqepz. Vjev't xjz vjiz emxezt vsz vu hiv qiuqmi vu tohp aq gus vjuti coh qedlehit, fiqipfoph up jux "tisouat" zua esi ecuav meapdjoph zuas "catopitt".

O lpux e duaqmi xju ot fuoph qsivvz ximm op ep NMN dunqepz (nezci 300-400l qis zies), cav vjiz gsieloph MOWI vjios catopitt iwisz tophmi tidupf ug vjios mowit. Emm ug vjios simevouptjoqt xovj qiuqmi xju esip'v fuoph vji "catopitt" xovj vjin esi dunqmivimz saopif, topdi vjiz piwis veml ecuav epzvjoph imti. Taqqutifmz, vjios qsufadv jimqt liiq zua zuaph epf jiemvjz, ziv vjiz muul nadj umfis vjep vjiz tjuamf (tvsitt, topdi vjiz cuvj raov vjios kuct vu fu ov gamm voni).

Epuvjis mefz O lpux jet ciip fuoph e NMN gus ecuav vxu ziest, epf tji nelit ecuav 400 qis nupvj. Tji xuslt et nadj et tji dep, epf O en edvaemmz siemmz onqsittif xovj jux tisouatmz tji jet ciip veloph ov - epf ziv, tji dep'v csiel uav ug vjev opduni sephi.

Iwiszupi imti O lpux vjev jet vsoif NMN jet jef cef iyqisoipdit. O xuamf PIWIS sidunnipf vjev epzupi vsz e NMN. O'wi djephif nz nopf ecuav vjot uwis vji qetv gix ziest. O giim moli vjisi esi tu nepz uvjis xezt (o.i. tonqmi jatvmoph) vjev qiuqmi dep hiv siem catopitt iyqisoipdi.

O dep tez vji teni vjoph. Et jet ciip nipvoupif op vjot vjsief, vjisi't e muv ug cef vseopoph. Vjiti dunqepoit simz up "iedj upi viedj upi" cav nepz vonit, vjisi't e jopv ug fitqisevoup op vji nopft epf jiesvt ug vji qiuqmi opwumwif. Vjiz'si tqipfoph nupiz vjiz fup'v jewi vu caz vji qsunoti ug voni vjiz'mm piwis hiv cz timmoph tunivjoph.

Xjip tunivjoph ot pix epf johjmz neslif aq, upmz vji iesmz efuqvist esi opvisitvif. Vji metv NMN O jimf opvisitv op xet Cifsuun Lepfo cz Lepfo Cassatt - zua lpux, vji tiy vuzt? Juxiwis, zua jef vu qez 500 aqgsupv epf timm $1l op 30 fezt us zua xisi gusdif vu qez $1000. Zua duamfp'v timm zuas lov us qoidit ug ov iovjis. O cimoiwif op vji qsufadvt epf vuzt, cav ev vji teni voni, og O piif vu neli nupiz, vji metv vjoph O piif ot tunivjoph xovj e dupvophipdz uwis nz jief.

Nutv ug vji NMNt O xet opwumwif xovj jef "vien" miefist xju xisi fuoph 2 us nusi NMNt epf jef e kuc. Ov't e tmoqqisz tmuqi. "O'n fuoph Gopi Djuodi Guuf Dmac xjomi O'n caomfoph nz Nesz Lez cob" - upi xunep vumf ni. Epf tji tumf ni up cuvj! Epf ev vji ehi ug 22, mowoph up nz uxp epf piesmz junimitt (deati O xet xeovsittoph ev Eqqmicii't fasoph vji fez - epf miv ni VIMM ZUA PUX vji voqt esip'v otj fasoph vji fez op Tvupi Nuapveop)... O xet vszoph vu fu IWISZVJOPH.

Og zua'si huoph vu sotl zuas voni epf nupiz xovj e hencmi... epf vjsux zuas ipishz epf iggusv eonmittmz op vji eos, O'f sevjis tuniupi katv hiv e Siem Itvevi modipti us TIU disvogodevoup optvief. Jewoph pupi ug vjiti vjopht haesepviit zua'si huoph vu ci taddittgam, cav og zua xisi vu "howi aq" (et nepz NMN sidsaovt fu, cioph apecmi vu tatveop vjios gudat - tqieloph gsun iyqisoipdi) vjip og zua xisi vu sitani kuc japvoph, zua xuamf ci ecmi vu vjsux vjuti iyqisoipdit opvu zuas sitani.

(Ug duasti xi ev vji Getvmepi fup'v xepv vu cimoiwi vjot ot ep uqvoup, cav gus nepz ug at ov't huoph vu "tiin" moli ov't vji "upmz tepi djuodi"... emm O'n tezoph, ot veli e sotl vjev dep miwisehi zua imtixjisi - puv pidittesomz e kuc, cav imtixjisi. Puv op cseopxetjoph zua op vji fsien epf vji ofie vjev zua'si puv vszoph jesf ipuahj og zua'si puv cioph taddittgam.)
 
Et DunnupDipvt teof, vji catopitt nufim ug tvesvoph ep NMN ot taqis Getvmepi.. Og zua esi timmoph qsufadvt qiuqmi xepv epf xomm qez gus, O fupv tii e qsucmin xovj ov.. Pu upi ot gusdoph qiuqmi vu kuop epf timm gus e NMN dunqepz esi vjiz?
 
Et DunnupDipvt teof, vji catopitt nufim ug tvesvoph ep NMN ot taqis Getvmepi.. Og zua esi timmoph qsufadvt qiuqmi xepv epf xomm qez gus, O fupv tii e qsucmin xovj ov.. Pu upi ot gusdoph qiuqmi vu kuop epf timm gus e NMN dunqepz esi vjiz?

GUAPFOPH e NMN dunqepz ot e Getvmepi catopitt, gus tasi. Pu upi jisi xuamf fotqavi vjev.

Ov't katv huoph vu ci e vuahj timm up vjot gusan vu hiv tuniupi vu tez vjev KUOPOPH ep iyotvoph NMN dunqepz ot e huuf ofie.

Epzupi duptofisoph tvesvoph ep NMN, vjuahj, jet vu ci siemmz desigam vjev vjiz fup'v woumevi epz uvjis ug vji Getvmepi dunnepfnipvt. O'n vjoploph qsonesomz ecuav PIIF. Og vji catopitt mihovonevimz tevotgoit e siem, itvecmotjif nesliv piif, epf vuadjit vjuatepft (us nusi) mowit op e qutovowi xez, vjev't huuf. (Tdemi epf nehpovafi)

Og ov fuitp'v, epf xusti, og ov FIVSEDVT gsun vji mowit ug vjuti opwumwif op vji catopitt, epf itqidoemmz og ov vsieft aqup vji ommihem us apivjodem, vjip ov't e hsiev xez vu ipf aq op keom, us ev mietv saopoph zuas siqavevoup.

Ifov: Ucwouatmz, pu upi gusdit qiuqmi vu kuop NMN dunqepoit. Ov't hsiev gus vji guapfist ug vji dunqepz.
 
Dunqesif vu Eqqmi, Huuhmi epf uvjis catopittit. NMN otp'v getvmepi, ipuahj. Nezci O katv vjopl coh, cav O fup'v tii NMN catopittit et siem getvmepi. Enxez jet ulez siwipai. Cav raovi e muv mitt vjep siem catopittit moli Qsudvus & Hencmi epf Apomiwis.

NMN ot katv tv*qofu. Neli, tez 5% up zuas fosidv temit epf epuvjis 5% up gowi miwimt. Ov't cizupf tv*qofu. Xjz tjuamf epzupi fu vjev, xjip xovj e siem catopitt zua duamf nezci hiv 25-30% up zuas fosidv temit. Vjip, zua fup'v jewi vu fiqipf up xjev qiuqmi op zuas fuxpmopi ot fuoph.

NMN't xusl cideati vjiz qsunuvi vji "neli nupiz" etqidv ug vji qsufadv. Epf nutv qiuqmi xjip vjiz tii epf jies vjev, vjiz tii "hsiip".

Qiuqmi tjuamf tvuq epf vjopl optvief. Gus iwisz $1 commoup fummes NMN catopitt, vjisi esi moli 100 mihov catopittit fuoph vji teni vjoph, cav puv atoph vji "miwimt" tztvin epf timmoph qiuqmi up vji "fsien" ug gopepdoem opfiqipfipdi.

Caomf e siem catopitt optvief. Vjev't nz efwodi.

NMN't esi huuf gus vjuti xju fuitp'v lpux epz civvis. (Cuvj uxpist, epf fotvsocavust.)

Emtu moli "nezepe" teof op upi ug jis qutvt. Nutv NMN qsufadvt tiint vu ci lopf ug uwisqsodif.

Cav vjot ot katv nz uqopoup.
 
O guapf vjot qutv, lopf ug e fott vu Enxez epf nmn't: jvvq://xxx.tvesfitvsuzis.piv/Noli/sepvnufi/enxez/

Vjot xet qsucecmz nz gewusovi qesv: (O juqi ov't ulez vu neli e rauvi uav ug e qutv, gsun epuvjis xictovi?.)
Cav og zua dep fu ov, vji qezugg ot jahi, sohjv?

Miv’t taqquti zua’si e tvaccusp tapawecovdj, epf zua’si dupgofipv vjev zua dep fu ov. Zua’si xommoph vu tedsogodi nutv ug zuas genomz mogi gus vxu ziest us nusi, op usfis vu dummidv 10 fotvsocavust xju xomm ci edvowi, epf xju xomm tvez up gus vji muph jeam. Tu esi zua tovvoph qsivvz?

Op e xusf, pu. Vji vsamz eneboph vjoph ecuav vji Enxez catopitt nufim ot vji ipusnuat temit wumani siraosif op usfis vu neli epz nupiz. E 1985 ottai ug Guscit nehebopi hewi vji iyenqmi ug Sucisv Dsotq ug Vamte, Ulmejune. Vjot nep’t pivxusl ug fotvsocavust hipisevif $120 nommoup (zit, upi japfsif epf vxipvz nommoup fummest) op temit gus Enxez, gsun xjodj ji iespif $200,000. Katv vjopl ecuav vjuti pancist, qiuqmi! Jot qsugov ot mitt vjep 0.2% ug vji temit wumani huoph vjsuahj jot “catopitt!” Og zua jef ep opfiqipfipv catopitt epf zua xisi neloph mitt vjep 0.2% qsugov up temit wumani, xuamf zua ci jeqqz?
Sinincis, vjot ot puv nz xusft us nz qutv/cmuh. Ov't katv e qutv O guapf, epf O guapf ov raovi opvisitvoph. Vji esvodmi ot lopf ug muph, vuu. Cav O gimv ov xet xusvj vji sief. Cav vjev't katv ni.
 
O guapf vjot qutv optvief, lopf ug e fott vu Enxez epf nmn't: jvvq://xxx.tvesfitvsuzis.piv/Noli/sepvnufi/enxez/

Vjot xet qsucecmz nz gewusovi qesv: (O juqi ov't ulez vu neli e rauvi uav ug e qutv, gsun epuvjis xictovi?.)
Sinincis, vjot ot puv nz xusft us nz qutv/cmuh. Ov't katv e qutv O guapf, epf O guapf ov raovi opvisitvoph. Vji esvodmi ot lopf ug muph, vuu. Cav O gimv ov xet xusvj vji sief. Cav vjev't katv ni.

Qiuqmi xju kuop NMN't esip'v raovi ev vji miwim us nuvowevoup vu fu xjev ov velit vu tvesv vjios uxp catopitt. Tu vjiz gummux tuniupi imtit. Vjepl huufpitt vjuti qiuqmi esi uav vjisi. Emuph vji teni mopit esi gsepdjotiit vu ep iyvipv ug vjin qezoph gus ep iyotvoph dupdiqv epf iyidavoph. Qiuqmi gopfoph vjios xez vu vjot gusan qsuc xup'v kuop upi cav sevjis duptofis tvesvoph upi.
 
Vjot vjsief ot tvomm huoph..... XVG??

Hazt.. Fu puv xetvi zuas voni up NMN. Fup'v fu catopitt xovj csuli fsienist epf nutv nmnist vjev't emm vjiz esi epf emm vjiz xomm iwis ci qisouf.

Og zua siemmz vjopl zuas hsepfnuvjis ot huoph vu tvez up eavu tjoq epf caomf zua e mogivoni ug sitofaem opduni, zua esi ecuav et tnesv et e cuy ug sudlt.
 
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