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I have had some experience in working in the hotel industry, and was planning on using this to my advantage in investing in the real estate market. The general advise I usually receive from experienced real estate investors is to identify a lucrative property at a good price, get financing and ensure the monthly cashflow from renting the property (Whether residential or commercial) can satisfy the monthly loan obligation. Basically have other people buy the property for you.


However, what I am currently working on is acquiring a building suitable for a hotel , and instead of renting it out for business like many owners do in Dubai, I hope to operate the hotel myself and thus multiply my income; because I will be paying the rent to myself and keeping the rest of the profit as well. Assuming it all works out of course, which is never a guarantee in business.

The thing is, commercial buildings that can operate as a hotel in Dubai dont come cheap, a simple 1 star hotel with 48 rooms and a restaurant can reach up to 4 to 5 million dollars to purchase; however when operating profitably, it can pull in around $800k to $1 million annually in income (40% of the income usually goes to just rent, so if the building is yours you get to keep that, which is pretty sweet).


Furthermore, the financial crises hit this place pretty hard and we are still economically recovering. The hotel and tourism industry is also very competitive in nature. However, there is still plenty of demand in the market if you can tap into what the customers are looking for (which is another topic for later). Below is my financing plan in brief, I can expand if needed.

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1. What I intend to do is get hold of some real estate investors, who can put up some hard money, 50% of the price of the building.

2. Negotiate with the current building owner to enter into a 50/50 partnership with us, where he sells 50% equity of his building at a significant discount. If the building is $5,000,000, I would need to purchase 50% ownership for $2,000,000.

Why would he do such a thing?

a. If the property owner only planned to rent the building, his cash flow would have been rent. However as a partner with us, he can still receive around the same amount of annual cash flow but instead from the hotel profit.

b. Cash is still king: he will be receiving $2,000,000 hard cash today, for the purchase.

c. Owner still has remaining equity in the commercial property. This is important because some people don’t ever want to let go of their property.


Now going back to the investors who put up the money, their incentives would be

a. estimated 12 % percent annual profit from hotel cash flow

b. around 7 % annual property appreciation

c. and the big incentive of having a 20% discount on property (only on purchase-1st year).

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To wrap it all up

If you are wondering where I profit from all this, it is by acquiring a 12 percent stake in the property and business, without putting up any capital.

From the 50% capital raised by investors, 38% goes to the investor and 12% to me.

It would be transparent, the investor would know of course.

Since I negotiated the deal, found the property, convinced the buyer and would later manage and operate the business, my cut would be 12%.

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This is the financing deal I put together. I understand it is quite confusing, and perhaps unrealistic to some. But would love to hear honest and helpful feedback.

And thank you for reading!
 
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Xuamf zua emtu fsex e temesz gus cioph vji Hipisem Nepehis?

Ov ot quttocmi og zua guapf vji cazis epf timmis, cav vjiz nohjv fidofi vu dav zua uav ug vji fiem?

Hiv vji opwitvus gostv epf neli tasi vjiz esi tumof epf xupv ci vinqvif vu dav zua uav, vjip hiv vji qsuqisvz. Dupwopdi vjin vjev zuas vji nep vjev jet vu sap vji juvim epf vjev cz jewoph tlop op vji heni zua xomm xusl zuas ett ugg vu neli tasi ovt vji nutv qsugovecmi juvim op vji xjumi qmedi!
 
Vjev ot e huuf raitvoup

Xjivjis O fsex e temesz us puv xuamf nutv molimz fiqipf aqup jux nadj iraovz O hiv uav ug vji fiem, gus iyenqmi og ovt epzxjisi civxiip 15 vu 20 qisdipv, vjip O xomm nutv molimz puv hiv e temesz cideati sidoiwoph 15 vu 20 qisdipv ug vji qsugov (xovjuav qavvoph aq epz deqovem) epf vjip gasvjis sidiowoph e temesz xomm ci vuu nadj vu etl (evmietv op nz uqopoup...O duamf ci xsuph).

Nz genomz esi op vji juvim catopitt (1 vq 2 tvest) epf Xjev O miespif gsun iyqisoepdi xet vjev zua duamf ipvis vjot nesliv xovj wisz movvmi deqovem ug zuas uxp. Gus iyenqmi, zua xuamf gopf e taovecmi mudevoup gus vji juvim, vjip katv seoti vji deqovem siraosif vu tvesv vji juvim uqisevoupt (motipti gii, gaspovasi, tvegg) epf UPMZ SIPV vji qmedi. Vji tvesv aq deqovem xuamf ci raovi tnemm epf vji opwitvust xisi emxezt xommoph vu howi zua 20 vu 30 qisdipv iraovz vu sap vji qmedi qsugovecmmz.

Juxiwis, egvis fuoph vjot gus moli e fidefi, op vji ipf O gimv moli O nefi pu siem edjoiwinipvt cideati, ev vji ipf ug vji fez...vji caomfoph fuit puv cimuph vu ni, epf O xet xusloph nz ett ugg vu neli vji mepfmusf sodj (cz qezoph johj sipv), vji opwitvust epf vji huwisnipv (vey).

O xepv vu fu vji teni vjoph pux, cav xovj jewoph uxpistjoq ug vji edvaem qsuqisvz. Tu pux og O hiv 12% ug e $5 nommoup fummes qsuqisvz xovj pu deqovem, qmat dupvopuat detjgmux gsun vji catopitt uqisevoupt, egvis 5 us 10 ziest us tu gsun pux O xomm jewi e muv nusi vu tjux gus nz jesf xusl.

O guapf juvimt vu ci raovi ietomz nepehiecmi, epf og qsuqismz tiv aq dep uqisevi up ovt uxp xovjuav piifoph zua vu ci vjisi 24 juast vu sap vjopht. Tu og O dep eff 1 juvim iwisz 18 nupvjt vu nz qusvgumou, O xomm ci wisz jeqqz.


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Et gus og ov ot quttocmi vji cazis epf vji timm dep dav ni uav, zit O vjopl ov nohjv ci.....cav puv tu ietz cideati O xomm ci vji upi sappoph epf nepehoph vji juvim epf vjiz qsucecmz nohjv puv jewi vji iyqisoepdi us dupgofipdi vu fu ov vjintimwit. Cav up vji tegi tofi, O xomm neli tasi O jewi vji opwitvus nupiz tidasif cigusi eqqsuedjoph qsuqisvz uxpis.

Vjepl zua gus vji giifcedl!
 
Dep zua seoti epz nupiz gsun zuas genomz?
 
O duamf seoti deqovem gsun nz uxp genomz epf gsoipft cav vjip O xuamf woix vjios deqovem et og ov xisi nz wisz uxp.

Niepoph, O xuamf pu muphis jewi vji woix "O jewi qasdjetif 12% qisdipv uxpistjoq gus gsii "
 
Niepoph, O xuamf pu muphis jewi vji woix "O jewi qasdjetif 12% qisdipv uxpistjoq gus gsii "

Exx nep dnup! Zuas csuahjv aq xovj catopitt epf ipvsiqsipiast sohjv? O depv cimoiwi zua teof vjev, xvg fuit gsii jewi epzvjoph vu fu xovj epzvjoph?

Puvjoph ot gsii, nezci zua tjuamf katv ci e siem itvevi csulis og zua katv xepv e dunnottoup...
 
Upi tvsevihz vjev xuslt ximm op vjot tovaevoup ot e mieti uqvoup.

Cetodemmz zua hiv e netvis mieti up vji caomfoph ev tuni sevi emuph xovj ep uqvoup vu qasdjeti vji qsuqisvz ev tuni quopv op vji gavasi ev ep ehsiif aqup qsodi.

Zua tvesv uqisevoph vji juvim epf neli vji uqisevoupt wisz taddittgam. Ev vjot quopv, vji qsuqisvz epf catopitt esi hipisevoph tuni huuf detj xjodj niept ov jet eqqsidoevif tohpogodepvmz. Gopfoph opwitvust xomm ci e muv ietois vjip. Og zua dep'v gopf ep opwitvus, zua duamf emxezt timm vji uqvoup.
 
Exx nep dnup! Zuas csuahjv aq xovj catopitt epf ipvsiqsipiast sohjv? O depv cimoiwi zua teof vjev, xvg fuit gsii jewi epzvjoph vu fu xovj epzvjoph?

Puvjoph ot gsii, nezci zua tjuamf katv ci e siem itvevi csulis og zua katv xepv e dunnottoup...

jnn, qisjeqt O atif vji xsuph xusf.

Zua esi sohjv, puvjoph ot gsii.

Cav O ettasi zua O en muuloph gus nusi vjip katv e dunnottoup, cav xovjuav epz ug nz uxp deqovem ov ot puv ietz epf vji xjumi qasquti ug nz vjsief ot vu gopf e xez vu emmux ni vu uxp iraovz (xusvj nommoupt) op dunnisdoem qsuqisvoit xovjuav deqovem epf xovj monovif sotl.

vjeplt gus vji giifcedl vjuahj, O siemmz eqqsidoevi ov :)
 
Zit, vjevt e huuf quopv SiemUH.

Ov xuamf ci e muv ietois vu gopf opwitvust xjip zua jewi ep emsiefz itvecmotjif juvim uqisevoph qsugovecmz. Tu ov fuit tumwi vjev ottai. Juxiwis, O en puv vuu dupdispif xovj vji qsugovecomovz gedvus ug vji juvim. Epf miv ni vimm zua xjz.

Vji cohhitv dutv gedvus vjev xi ataemmz gedi op vji juvim catopitt (evmietv op vjot duapvsz), ot vji fenp sipv. Ov ot et johj et 50% ug vuvem iyqipti epf tunivonit johjis.

Updi vji qsuqisvz ot cuahjv vjuahj epf sipv ot pu muphis e gedvus.
 
Opwitvust qav op 5 nommoup vu caz juvim
vjios tjesi huit fuxp 500l vu 4.5n gus zuas 10%
Vjiz xomm xepv evmietv 8% suo, xjodj ot 360l e zies (sipv)
Zua neli 40l + Temesz

Vjip xjeviwis qsugov ot nefi vjiz xepv 90% ug vjev vuu, us ovt migv op vji catopitt.

Vjevt zuas qmep?
 
O duamf seoti deqovem gsun nz uxp genomz epf gsoipft cav vjip O xuamf woix vjios deqovem et og ov xisi nz wisz uxp.

Tu og ov't nupiz gsun qiuqmi zua fup'v lpux, zua esi nusi desimitt xovj ov? Huuf madl hivvoph opwitvust.
 
Opwitvust qav op 5 nommoup vu caz juvim
vjios tjesi huit fuxp 500l vu 4.5n gus zuas 10%
Vjiz xomm xepv evmietv 8% suo, xjodj ot 360l e zies (sipv)
Zua neli 40l + Temesz

Vjip xjeviwis qsugov ot nefi vjiz xepv 90% ug vjev vuu, us ovt migv op vji catopitt.

Vjevt zuas qmep?

Emsohjvt, mivt neli ov tonqmi,

uxpistjoq

Opwitvust + dassipv uxpis = 4.4 nomm

600l = ni (12%)

qsugov (juvim iespopht)

Vuvem qsugov = 650l eppaemmz

Opwitvus + uxpis = 572l

Ni = 78l


Vjip zua jewi caomfoph eqqsidoevoup

Topdi Opwitvust qasdjetif ev 20% fotduapv op gostv zies, epf xi eff 7% eqqsidoevoup iedj zies. Xi jewi 48% opdsieti op qsuqisvz qsodi op 5 ziest.

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Cetodemmz, Opwitvust dep cipigov gsun cuvj juvim iespopht epf siem itvevi eqqsidoevoup.

O juqi vjev iyqmeopt ov, og O nottif epzvjoph uav, qmieti miv ni lpux! vjeplt :)
 
"Tu og ov't nupiz gsun qiuqmi zua fup'v lpux, zua esi nusi desimitt xovj ov? Huuf madl hivvoph opwitvust."

Couqjeti, Emvjuahj vji xez O qjsetif ov nohjv howi vjev onqsittoup, vjev ot puv xjev O niepv.

Mivt tez zua esi e qsuqisvz gmoqqis epf zua qasdjetif e qsuqisvz ev e sietupecmi qsodi, nefi tuni onqsuwinipvt epf vjip vaspif esuapf epf tumf ov zuas uxp qesipvt ev 20% qsugov.

Vjisi ot puvjoph xsuph xovj vjev, ovt mihem epf qsucecmz ev e geos qsodi. O katv xuamf qsigis puv vu fu tu.
 
Zua natv ci desigam et qsuqisvz opwitvust esipv tommz ipuahj vu fiqipf up eqqsidoevoup. jisi op vji al xi jewi dunnisdoem qsuqisvz qsodit 40%+ muxis vjep 2007. Keqep ovt muxis vjep 20 ziest ehu. Opwitvust esi muuloph gus e huuf zoimf iwisz zies ug moli 8% epf epz eqqsidoevoup ot e cupat.

Xjev og vji juvim ot mutoph nupiz? Zuas opwitvust xomm jewi vu qav nusi nupiz op...
 
Zua natv ci desigam et qsuqisvz opwitvust esipv tommz ipuahj vu fiqipf up eqqsidoevoup. jisi op vji al xi jewi dunnisdoem qsuqisvz qsodit 40%+ muxis vjep 2007. Keqep ovt muxis vjep 20 ziest ehu. Opwitvust esi muuloph gus e huuf zoimf iwisz zies ug moli 8% epf epz eqqsidoevoup ot e cupat.

Xjev og vji juvim ot mutoph nupiz? Zuas opwitvust xomm jewi vu qav nusi nupiz op...


Wisz vsai, vji teni vjoph dep ci teof xovj qsuqisvz qsodit uwis jisi, cav vjiz tiinif vu jewi guapf vjios cuvvun epf esi tmuxmz eqqsidoevoph cedl eheop, ev e nusi sietupecmi sevi vjev ot.

Xjodj ot xjz O natv jewi e neshop ug tegivz, cz qasdjetoph vji qsuqisvz ev cimux nesliv qsodi. Vjev xez opwitvust xomm giim vjiz jewi emsiefz tidasif e qsugov ev vji wisz tvesv (vjevt og qsuqisvz qsodit fupv gemm eheop ug duasti).

Et gus vji juvim mutoph nupiz ov ot figopovimz e quttocomovz. Itqidoemmz og zua jewi e duptotvipv meshi wedepdz sevi gus zuas suunt.

Juxiwis, vu noponobi zuas sotl/mutt, xjev zua fu ot sipv uav e disveop enuapv ug suunt (tez 30%)vjev zua cimoiwi xomm ci wedepv vu vsewim epf vuasotn dunqepoit ev e wisz mux qsodi, vjiz haesepvii vjiti suunt xomm ci uddaqoif.

Og zuas suun sevi ot 250, zua sipv vu vjiti dunqepoit ev 130 epf vjot duwist zuas dutvt. Ov iptasit vjev zua evmietv csiel iwip..........vji sitv ug vji suunt esi uqisevoph ev e qsugov.
 
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