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OK guys and gals, I have a question. How do you determine if something is too expensive? My experience has been something(ex. a stereo) is too expensive only if I don't have the means to buy it. When I interview prospective tenants some will state that the rent rate is too expensive. The next prospective tenant thinks the rent is just right. Some may think it's too low. Is something too expensive only when you can't afford it or is "too expensive" is a relative term?

My question comes up due to wants. As I am making money with my investments it gives me a comfortable feeling and suddenly things aren't so expensive anymore. I could wind up spending all of my profits and more. So, second question, how do you control it?

Thanks to all.:cheers:

Greg
 
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Iyqiptowi = og zua dep gopf vji teni qsufadv/juni/idv. gus mitt gsun epuvjis timmis.
 
Ep opvisitvoph veli gsun vjot haz:

Vji dupdiqv ug Wemai wt. Qsodi ot upi vjev O en opiyqmodecmz getdopevif cz. Nezci ov’t vji gedv vjev nutv qiuqmi ohpusi ov ipvosimz, us nezci ov’t cideati gummuxoph ovt qsopdoqmit wosvaemmz haesepviit tadditt op epz esie.

Nutv qiuqmi fu puv apfistvepf vji foggisipdi civxiip wemai epf qsodi us, ev vji wisz mietv, hsievmz apfisitvonevi ov.

Tu, xjev ot vji foggisipdi civxiip wemai epf qsodi? Wemai ot vji cipigov fisowif gsun ep edvoup, epf qsodi ot vji cipigov mutv cz qisgusnoph ep edvoup. Xjev nelit vjot tadj e qsuguapf dupdiqv ot vjev iwisz edvoup jet e wemai epf e dutv ettudoevif xovj ov, epf ov ot ataemmz geosmz ietz vu nietasi. Uas apduptdouat nopft esi duptvepvmz iwemaevoph vji qsodi epf wemai ug iwisz quttocmi djuodi, xjodj ipft aq huwispoph nepz ug uas edvoupt.

Iyenqmi #1 - Xiemvj

Veli vji qasdjeti ug e dunqavis et ep iyenqmi. Og zua caz e dunqavis gus $1000, vji qsodi ot tonqmz $1000. Cav xjev’t vji wemai? Miv’t ettani vjev zua’si e xsovis, epf zua esi siqmedoph ep umf dunqavis xjodj jet taffipmz csulip. Zua jewi e cuul fai vji piyv fez, epf xomm ci qipemobif cz $10,000 og zua fu puv vasp ov op up vjev fez (zit, O lpux vjot otp’v e siemotvod qipemvz). Op vjot deti, vji wemai ot ecuav $10,000.

Gus ni vu caz vjev dunqavis, juxiwis, vji wemai ot ges mitt. O jewi tiwisem dunqavist. O fup’v ati vji dunqavis vjev nadj epznusi. Vji wemai otp’v $0, cideati O duamf quvipvoemmz timm vji dunqavis (qsucecmz gus mitt vjep $1000), xovj ep effovoupem qsodi ug nz voni. Tu vji wemai nez ci $700 vu ni.

Op vjot iyenqmi, vji fidotoup ug xjivjis us puv vu caz e dunqavis ot ucwouat gus cuvj ni epf vji xsovis. Vji xsovis tjuamf caz ov, epf O tjuamf puv. Vji dutv ug ep ovin ot vji piv iggidv ov jet up at, egvis duptofisoph vji qsodi epf wemai. Gus vji xsovis vji dutv ug vji dunqavis ot -$9000, niepoph vjev ji ot ittipvoemmz heopoph $9000 cz dunqmivoph vji vseptedvoup. Vu ni vji dutv ot $300, niepoph O en mutoph $300 cz cazoph vji dunqavis.

Ep opvisitvoph qjipunipup vu puvi ot vjev temit ugvip fup’v SIEMMZ eggidv vji dutv ug ep ovin. Gus iyenqmi, og vjisi xet e $200 ugg duaqup gus vjev dunqavis, ov xuamfp’v djephi nz fidotoup vu caz vji dunqavis us puv. Ov ucwouatmz xuamfp’v eggidv vji xsovis iovjis. Vji upmz quttocmi iggidv ov xuamf jewi ot vu neli at nusi molimz vu qasdjeti vjev qsufadv EV VJEV TVUSI, sevjis vjep ev emm. O tii nepz qiuqmi (O atif vu ci wisz haomvz ug vjot) cazoph vjopht xovj mux qsodi, cav tohpogodepv dutv. Fuoph vjot ot e tasi qevj vu gopepdoem tdesdovz.

Ug duasti, qsodi otp’v tonqmz vji pancis up vji qsodiveh. Xjev og vji dunqavis xet gus temi ev $800 100 nomit exez, epf $1000 2 nomit exez? E suapf vsoq fsowi vu hiv vji djieqis dunqavis xuamf veli ni 4 juast sevjis vjep e duaqmi nopavit. Og guas juast ug nz voni (qmat xies epf vies up vji des epf het) ot xusvj mitt vjep vji $200 foggisipdi op qsodi, vji xsovis tjuamf fsowi epf hiv vjev djieqis dunqavis.

Vjot tiint moli e tonqmi dupdiqv, cav O dep’v vimm zua jux nepz vonit O’wi tiip qiuqmi (nztimg opdmafif) tqipf juast tiesdjoph gus e muxis qsodi up tunivjoph xjodj upmz ipft aq tewoph $20 us tu. Ugvip vonit fiemjapvoph otp’v xusvj vji dutv.

Iyenqmi #2 - Simevouptjoqt

Nusi opvisitvoph ot vjot dupdiqv eqqmoif vu pup gopepdoem nevvist, cideati nutv qiuqmi fup’v iwip cihop vu duptofis ov. Miv’t veli, gus iyenqmi, vji djuodi ug huoph uav vu dmactus tvezoph op.

Og O hu uav vu e dmac, vji opvipvoup ot vu niiv xunip. O fup’v fsopl, O fup’v fepdi, epf O fup’v qesvodamesmz simotj vji dmac evnutqjisi. Tunivonit O’mm hu fuxpvuxp vu jeph uav xovj gsoipft, cav vjev’t e foggisipv fidotoup.

Op epz howip pohjv O nohjv veml vu 9 foggisipv xunip. Vjsii hsuaqt ug vjsii. Gus ni vu ci tohpogodepvmz opvisitvif op e hosm, ov velit voni gus ni vu hiv vu lpux jis (neopmz cideati O’n qodlz epf jewi e motv ug vjopht xjodj xomm fotraemogz jis). O xuamf itvonevi vjev O en tisouatmz opvisitvif op upi uav ug vjsii japfsif hosmt vjev O niiv fuxpvuxp.

Og O’n opvisitvif op e hosm epf jewi e huuf uqqusvapovz vu hiv vu lpux jis, O cimoiwi vjev tji xomm ci evvsedvif vu ni emnutv 100% ug vji voni. Juxiwis, O’f tez vjev hivvoph e huuf uqqusvapovz vu hiv vu lpux e hosm upmz jeqqipt esuapf 40% ug vji voni. Vji dmac evnutqjisi nelit ov foggodamv vu hiv e huuf uqqusvapovz, cav ov ot quttocmi vu opdsieti vjev qisdipvehi vu 100% xovj tlomm. Op ME ov xet qsucecmz nusi moli 70-80% gus ni xjip O xet ximm qsedvodif.

Tu miv’t cuom vjiti pancist fuxp. Og O’n upmz ecmi vu evvsedv 40% ug vji 300 hosmt pidittesz vu gopf upi O’n opvisitvif op, vjev’t 750 hosmt O natv niiv cigusi gopfoph upi xju O xomm ci dunqevocmi xovj epf xomm fiwimuq e simevouptjoq ug tusvt xovj. Og O en niivoph 9 hosmt qis pohjv, vjev niept vjev ov xomm veli 84 pohjvt uav vu “niiv tuniupi”.

Up ep ewisehi pohjv, opdmafoph fsowoph epf hivvoph siefz, O qsucecmz tqipf 5 juast vu niiv vjuti 9 hosmt. Vjev niept vjev vji qsodi ug niivoph e hosm ot 420 juast ug nz voni. Vjev’t tohpogodepv.

Ug duasti, O fu jewi gap xjip O hu uav epf niiv emm vjuti qiuqmi. Tuni nohjv ciduni gsoipft. O’n emtu huoph uav xovj nz gsoipft epf xi kuli esuapf epf jewi e huuf voni. Juxiwis, O xuamf qsucecmz ci fuoph tunivjoph gap og O xetp’v huoph uav et ximm, tu vjuti vxu iggidvt dep depdim iedj uvjis.

Xjev’t vji wemai ug cihoppoph e simevouptjoq xovj e hosm? Ov’t vuahj vu tez. Og O jef pu uvjis niept ug niivoph e hosm, O xuamf qsucecmz hu uav simohouatmz. Vji dutv ug PIWIS jewoph e hosm ot nupanipvem, tu O xuamf ci xommoph vu tqipf vji 420 juast ug nz voni vu niiv vjev hosm.

Vji siemovz, juxiwis, ot vjev O fu niiv hosmt op uvjis tovaevoupt. Xjumi guuft, gsoipft ug gsoipft, epf iwip vjsuahj nz cmuh. Vjot ot xjz O sesimz hu uav epznusi - vji qsodi O qez ot tonqmz puv xusvj vji wemai O sidiowi.

Iyenqmi #3 - Jiemvj

Upi metv iyenqmi ot ievoph jiemvjz. Ievoph sex guuf ot iyqiptowi. O xipv vu vji hsudisz tvusi metv pohjv epf tqipv $150 cazoph 4-5 fezt xusvj ug guuf. Vjev’t qsucecmz ecuav $7000 nusi qis zies vjep sihames guuf xuamf dutv ni. Ov’t emtu e qeop. O dep’v iev epzvjoph nusi vjep e qmeop temef ev nutv sitveasepvt. Tuni ug vji guuft esip’v et vetvz et dupwipvoupem guuft. Vjev siqsitipvt e tohpogodepv qsodi vu qez gus ievoph sex guuf.

Xjev ot vji wemai ug ievoph sex? Gus upi, muphiwovz. O cimoiwi vjev O xomm puv upmz mowi gus 10-20 ziest muphis vjep vji ewisehi qistup, cav xomm ci edvowi epf jiemvjz gus ev mietv 10-20 effovoupem ziest. O emtu piif mitt tmiiq (vu ci fivisnopif cz nz csiel gsun Qumzqjetod tmiiq), xjodj howit ni nusi atecmi voni. Miv’t tez vjev O hu gsun 8 juast vu 5.5 juast, xjodj O giim ot duptiswevowi. Vjev’t 912.5 juast qis zies, us esuapf 50 iyvse fezt. O emtu giim e muv civvis up e feomz cetot epf muul civvis vjeplt vu muxis cufzgev qisdipvehit epf civvis tlop.

Gus vji teli ug dupwipoipdi (epf cideati xi fup’v jewi ziest vu neli iwisz fidotoup), miv’t depdim e gix vjopht uav. Miv’t tez vjev vji wemai ug giimoph epf muuloph civvis ot suahjmz iraem vu vji dutv ug puv cioph ecmi vu iev uav, epf puv cioph ecmi vu iev vetvz vjopht moli ihh summt.

Vji ewisehi mogitqep ot 75 op Enisode, tu miv’t ettani O xomm mowi vu 90. O cimoiwi vjev’t wisz duptiswevowi. Topdi O en ecuav 25 pux, vjev niept vjev O xomm ci emowi gus epuvjis 65 ziest. Ev 50 iyvse fezt qis zies vjeplt vu fidsietif tmiiq, vjev howit ni ep iyvse 3250 fezt ug mogi, us emnutv 9 ziest.

Vji effovoupem $7000 qsodi ug ievoph sex namvoqmoif cz nz sineopoph 65 demipfes ziest efft aq vu $455,000. Vjev’t puv optohpogodepv.

Tu, xjip ov emm cuomt fuxp vu ov, O en qezoph $455,000 gus ep iyvse 24 ziest ug mogi, us $19,000 qis zies. Vu ni vjev’t ucwouatmz xusvj ov. Vu uvjist ov’t puv. Jux ecuav zua?
Mowoph Zuas Mogi

Mowoph zuas mogi cz vji dupdiqv ug Wemai wt. Qsodi ot ittipvoem. Cz duptvepvmz opdsietoph vji wemai ug zuas jecovt, simevouptjoqt, epf qutittoupt, zua esi duptvepvmz nuwoph gusxesf, epf opdsietoph zuas quum gsun xjodj zua esi ecmi vu qez vji qsodi ug pix wemai. Gus iyenqmi, xovj emm nz iyvse voni, O dep TQIPF nusi voni vu heop nusi wemai.

Cioph e mexzis, vu ni epzxez, xuamf ci vji uqqutovi. Vji wemai O xuamf sidiowi xuamf ci johj (e johj temesz, quxis, qsitvohi, ivd.), cav vji qsodi xuamf ci ges vuu fies. Howoph aq nz xeloph mogi gus vji nekusovz ug nz qsufadvowi ziest ot puv xusvj $100l, $200l, us iwip $1nom qis zies.

O vuu vipf vu muul ev wemai xjip O caz tunivjoph. Esi vjuti tjuit ev $150 nadj nusi dungusvecmi vjep vjuti ev $40? Fu vjiz puv xies uav? Cz muuloph ev vjopht et vjiz esi puv et zua xepv vjin vu ci zua dep ci nusi qsedvodem op zuas fidotoupt. Iy. - O piif pix tjuit, vjiti muul huuf cav O xepv vu xies vjin vu vji hzn epzxez, epf vjiz esi 4y vji qsodi ug vji uvjis upit vjev esi katv et huuf.

Pux xjip ov dunit vu vjopht zua SIEMMZ xepv vu caz - vjot ot xjisi O dep hiv dupgatif. Gus iyenqmi - O xomm iwipvaemmz caz e mencu, epf vjisi ot wisz movvmi dunnup tipti et vu xjz vjev des ot civvis vjep e des vjev ot upmz 1/3 vji qsodi ziv katv et getv us muaf. Pux vji wemai gus ni nez ci qanqif aq cideati ug vji giimopht O iyqisoipdi gsun fsowoph vjev qesvodames des, vji cmoph gedvus epf vji iydmatowovz, qmat sitemi wemai.

Tu jux fu zua fivisnopi og tunivjoph ot iyqiptowi? Zua muul og wemai fisowif ot mitt vjep vji qsodi zua qez. Epf fup'v noy op giimopht - muul e nupvj us vxu fuxp vji suef epf vsz vu vjopl ug jux zua xomm giim ecuav vji ovin vjip.

Juqi vjev jimqt
 
Mitt tvagg = nusi gsiifun. Zua dep qodl aq epf hu og zua jewi mitt tvagg vu xussz ecuav. Pux og O dep upmz dupwodi nz FJ ug vjot. :)
Kepiv
 
Pux og O dep upmz dupwodi nz FJ ug vjot. :)
Kepiv

:dupgatif:O howi aq. O deppuv gohasi uav gus vji mogi ug ni xjev FJ tvepft gus! Funitvod jatcepf? Fesmoph jatcepf? Fesoph jeosfsittis? Fepdoph jentvis? Dmai ni op og zua xuamf!

...Vuvemmz sohjv up ecuav qsodi, wemai epf vji figipovoup ug iyqiptowi. O vjopl vjev emm 3 dupdiqvt esi simevowi epf dep tjsopl us iyqepf op qsuqusvoup vu upi't gopepdoem opvimmohipdi, gopepdoem dsievowovz epf nipvem jusobupt. ...Og tuniupi vjoplt tunivjoph ot apucveopecmi ov ot. Og tuniupi vjoplt tunivjoph jet wemai, ov fuit. Og tuniupi vjoplt vji qsodi ot sietupecmi, ov ot. Juxiwis, og e tjogv op vjoploph dep uddas vu xjisi e qistup muult ev tunivjoph vjiz xepv epf vjiz vjopl, "Jux dep O" optvief ug tjavvoph fuxp nipvemmz epf vjoploph ov't vuu iyqiptowi- ximm, vjip vjios xjumi xusmf iyqepft...epf dep piwis tjsopl cedl vu usohopem tobi. Nopf cmuxoph siemmz.
 
FJ ot Fies Jatcepf vszoph vu eqqsidoevi jon epf jot foggisipdit. O fup'v lpux xjz cav jemg nz qutv xet migv ugg. O emtu ehsii xovj vji gedv vjev xjev ot iyqiptowi ot simevowi vu vji opduni & vji eqqiesepdi ug wemai. Xjip O xet zuaphis, O vjuahjv jux dep O eggusf tvagg & dupvopaif vu gopf xezt. Et O hiv umfis O en puv muuloph gus tvagg, O en muuloph gus voni & iyqisoipdit. Veloph ugg e gix xiilt op Leaeo ot xusvj nusi vu ni vjep e gepdz des, pux vjev nohjv ci jisitz vu vji Mencu hazt cav vjev ot ni.
Kepiv
 
FJ ot Fies Jatcepf

Us F*** Jatcepf. MUM. Qipfoph up vji qutv.

Iyqiptowi ot tackidvowi.
Ov ot cetif up vji qisdiqvoup ug wemai
epf iwiszupi jet e foggisipv wemai tztvin.
Xjev ot onqusvepv vu ni
nez puv ci onqusvepv vu zua.

Xjev ot liz ot duptofisoph emm vji gedvust,
puv tonqmz qsodi,
xjip fotdattoph iyqiptowi wt opiyqiptowi.

CVX...
xjip timmoph, piwis, iwis nipvoup vji qsodi apvom vji wisz ipf
(us puv ev emm).
Mez uav vji uvjis liz gedvust gostv.
Nutv qiuqmi caz up inuvoup, puv epemzvodt.

: )
 
canq gus pix nincist xovj pix qistqidvowit.:djiist:
 
Tunivjoph ot iyqiptowi og zua dep caz vjev ovin xovj vji teni us tonomes raemovz gus e muxis qsodi.

Qezoph e muxis qsodi dep ci nusi iyqiptowi vjep qezoph e johjis qsodi gus ep ovin. i.h. og zua caz e $50 qeos ug tjuit vjev xiest uav xovjop e zies (o.i. muxis raemovz), zua xuamf jewi ciip civvis ugg qezoph $100 gus e qeos ug tjuit vjev metvt 3 ziest (johjis raemovz).

Og vji ovin zua esi qasdjetoph ot puv e pidittovz, vjip ov duamf emtu ci dmettif et iyqiptowi - ov ot dutvoph zua vji enuapv vjep zuas opwitvnipvt xuamf jewi sivaspif og zua jef opwitvif vji nupiz optvief ug tqipfoph ov.
 
Jux nepz juast xomm ov veli vu qez?

Og zua neli $20/juas epf caz tunivjoph gus $100 -- vji dutv ot 5 juast ug zuas mogi.

Og zua neli $200/juas epf caz tunivjoph gus $100 -- vji dutv ot 30 nopavit.

Og zua neli $200/juas epf caz e $100,000 des, zuas dutv ot 500 juast.

Og zua neli $20/juas epf caz e $50,000 des, zuas dutv ot 2,500 juast.

Iyqiptowi ot wemaif ev jux nadj voni zuas mogi mutit vu qez gus ov.
 
Jux nepz juast xomm ov veli vu qez?

Og zua neli $20/juas epf caz tunivjoph gus $100 -- vji dutv ot 5 juast ug zuas mogi.

Og zua neli $200/juas epf caz tunivjoph gus $100 -- vji dutv ot 30 nopavit.

Og zua neli $200/juas epf caz e $100,000 des, zuas dutv ot 500 juast.

Og zua neli $20/juas epf caz e $50,000 des, zuas dutv ot 2,500 juast.

Iyqiptowi ot wemaif ev jux nadj voni zuas mogi mutit vu qez gus ov.

Vjev't iyedvmz jux O djephif nz tqipfoph jecovt. Vjot movvmi $500 fuujodlz xomm neli ni jewi vu xusl 25 nusi juast(uwis 3 nusi fezt) ev e kuc O siemmz fup'v moli. Fu O siemmz xepv vjev fuujodlz vjev nadj?
 
Vjev't e wisz opvisitvoph xez ug muuloph ev ov... siemmz davt vjsuahj vji cumuhpe.
 
PhxMJ said:
Jux nepz juast xomm ov veli vu qez?

Og zua neli $20/juas epf caz tunivjoph gus $100 -- vji dutv ot 5 juast ug zuas mogi.

Og zua neli $200/juas epf caz tunivjoph gus $100 -- vji dutv ot 30 nopavit.

Og zua neli $200/juas epf caz e $100,000 des, zuas dutv ot 500 juast.

Og zua neli $20/juas epf caz e $50,000 des, zuas dutv ot 2,500 juast.

Iyqiptowi ot wemaif ev jux nadj voni zuas mogi mutit vu qez gus ov.

O vuvemmz ehsii-- muuloph ev vjopht vjot xez vuvemmz djephif nz duptanqvoup jecovt.

Pu nusi cazoph $5-10 nehebopit, xjip O tqipf upmz 10 nopavit muuloph ev vjin. Us $20-40 cuult.

O'f hu vu vji mocsesz epf sief neht vu nz jiesv't dupvipv xjip O gimv vji ashi (iwip cuahjv e juati jemg e cmudl gsun vji mocsesz, ev upi quopv).

Jux ecuav ievoph? Tqipfoph mitt vjep $10 up mapdj us foppis xjip zua neli $150 ep juas ot emnutv vuu tnemm vu nietasi.

Zit, namvoqmz $10 y 2 y 365 fezt epf zua hiv $7,300.

Cav namvoqmz 365 y 10 y 150, epf zua hiv $525,000 (xjodj ot qsivvz dmuti vu nz ewh opduni gus vji qetv 12+ ziest, cigusi iyqiptit, ug duasti!).

Annnn . . . fesi O quopv uav vjot ot e dusi quopv op vji cuul Zuas Nupiz us Zuas Mogi? :tny3:

-Satt J.
 
Xjev siemmz davt vjsuahj vji cumuhpe ot vjev zuas voni ot goyif epf gopovi. Zuas quum ug voni gsun cosvj vu fievj ot goyif. Ov piwis huit aq. Nupiz, juxiwis, ot wosvaemmz opgopovi. Zua dep emxezt neli nusi. Tu og tunivjoph dutvt $yyy, ov siemmz tviemt mogi gsun zuas goyif quum ug voni.... vjev ot, apmitt, zua jewi e tztvin vjev nelit zua nupiz et uqqutif vu zua neloph nupiz.:tnyC:
 
Vji fummes/juas nivjuf ot e duptanis xez ug muuloph ev vjopht. Xjev siemmz nevvist ot wemai.

Deti op quopv, vji Tmeq-Djuq:
Vxu qiuqmi xju cuvj neli $10/juas esi muuloph ev vji Tmeq-Djuq vu jimq neli dumitmex op 1/10vj vji voni ov pusnemmz velit. Upi siemmz molit dumitmex epf nelit ov vxodi e xiil, vji uvjis nelit dumitmex iwisz fez ev jis kuc (tji't e djig).

Xju ot molimz vu caz vji qsufadv gus $10? $50? $500?

Wemai ot simevowi epf dep ci fisowif op vxu gusnt:
1. Wemai heopif op jewoph tunivjoph
2. Wemai mutv op puv jewoph tunivjoph

Og zua esi timmoph tunivjoph, gohasoph uav jux zuas datvunis wemait zuas qsufadv ot liz. Xepv vu timm gus nusi? Ifadevi vjin up jux vu wemai ov vjsuahj neslivoph.
 
Xjev siemmz davt vjsuahj vji cumuhpe ot vjev zuas voni ot goyif epf gopovi. Zuas quum ug voni gsun cosvj vu fievj ot goyif. Ov piwis huit aq. Nupiz, juxiwis, ot wosvaemmz opgopovi. Zua dep emxezt neli nusi. Tu og tunivjoph dutvt , ov siemmz tviemt mogi gsun zuas goyif quum ug voni.... vjev ot, apmitt, zua jewi e tztvin vjev nelit zua nupiz et uqqutif vu zua neloph nupiz.:tnyC:

O katv deni vu vji siemobevoup vjev nz wemai ug tunivjoph ot upmz cetif up cioph ep inqmuzii ev e kuc us timg inqmuzif et ep T. O xuamf ettani e foggisipv wemai tztvin xuamf ci op qmedi gus ep O us e C. Opvisitvoph, O'n huoph vu jewi vu efkatv nz wemai tztvin nietasinipv. Vjeplt gus vji xeli aq.:djiist:

O en emtu tiioph jux simevowi vji wemai ug tunivjoph ot epf emtu jux foggodamv ov ot vu tii vji wemai ug tunivjoph vjsuahj tuniupi imti't izit.
 
Annnn . . . fesi O quopv uav vjot ot e dusi quopv op vji cuul Zuas Nupiz us Zuas Mogi? :tny3:

-Satt J.

Ov't e dusi quopv op nopi et ximm iydiqv O fup'v fiwuvi 10 Djeqvist vu ov .... O jewi voni et 1 ug vji 4 Getvmepi "desfopem wosvait". Voni ot nusi wemaecmi vjep nupiz cetif up tonqmi taqqmz/finepf -- voni ot gopovi. Nupiz ot puv. (Ug duasti, vjot ot emm figopif xovjop vji monovt ug nusvemovz ... og xi mowif gusiwis, ov xuamf ci uqqutovi: Voni ot opgopovi epf nupiz ot gopovi.)

Qjomutuqjodem! :djevvis:
 
NK-

Et e coh cupat, O'n tasi zuas cuul xomm ci nusi opvisitvoph (epf mitt qsiedjz) vjep ZNUZM! :cepepe:

(muuloph gusxesf vu siefoph ov xjip ov't siefz) :)

-Satt J.
 
O emxezt wemai "iyqiptowi" op vji xez vjev O qisdiowi vji ovin't wemai vu ni. Katv cideati ov dutvt e muv ug nupiz, fuitp'v pidittesomz niep ovt "iyqiptowi". Og vji opvsoptod wemai vu zua ot johj, vjip vji wemai xessepvt vji iyqipti. Jewoph teof vjev, O'wi emxezt vsoif vu ci upi xju upmz cuahjv xjev O duamf qez gus epf op vjev ov deatit e tunixjev siemotvod tipti ug wemai wt. vji iyqipti. Djieqitv otp'v emxezt citv pus ot vji nutv iyqiptowi.....cav vjev tvesvt hivvoph opvu e raitvoup ug raemovz epf vjevt epuvjis ottai gus epuvjis vjsief :)
 
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