How not to get f*cked when outsourcing code?

[RealDreams]

So I've been thinking about outsourcing a website project I tried starting alone. However, I soon realized the skills required to make it real will take me years to learn. So, while I am still learning to code, I thought about outsourcing the website development on Upwork so I can finally start the business. I used to be a graphic designer so I decided to create the web UI/UX myself, also to save money.

I've read on here Upwork is very popular for outsourcing, but now comes the tricky question: How do you NOT get scammed on Upwork? I have 0 experience with outsourcing and I have no idea what to do and what to expect. I've read some threads on the forum but there are many contrasting ideas. I've read "Hire third world countries' developers because they are willing to do the work for less" , or "Don't hire them because they might scam you". Clearly, you can't have a precise answer, but I'm sure some of you are following some guide-line when outsourcing, don't you? Apart from that, I'm sure many of you have experience with outsourcing code.

One thing I can't figure out is how much to charge. Is someone who charges very little trust-worthy?

For example, I've had one proposal and this dude is basically asking 50% less than the budget I listed ($550 instead of $1110) for a full-stack development. He has 1 review with 5 stars and seems to be new on Upwork. I've seen the work on his portfolio and looks impressing.

Now, I cannot but feel something is odd. Usually, quality is accompanied by high hourly-rates (obviously this is not always true, but this is the simple habitual association the brain makes), but this man seems to charge nothing for what I ask. He also asked me to show him the web design I so far created and to explain in detail the functions I intend to add. Beware, I still have not hired him and we are just messaging each other on Upwork. I know ideas are worth nothing, but am I naive for thinking he's trying to steal my business idea (also considering I have the web design half done)?

Is it because he just started on Upwork and wants to get a good reputation that he charges very little? Or is it because he's trying to scam someone? To be honest, it has to be one of the two. If you have seen something like this in the past please tell me.

Anyways, what's your general advice when it comes to outsourcing web development? Thanks a lot in advance.

 

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