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How to build a $720k/year marketing agency by selling quizzes

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My first post is inspired by @Sean Marshall's great article on how he built his agency.

In 2015, I lost three clients worth 35% of our monthly revenue and was had two of them threaten to sue me.

Since then, we went on to close 189 clients in just two years and grew our revenue to $720,000/year.

It all began in 2012 when I started a web development agency with my business partner Dornubari in college.

We made a lot of mistakes and we learned what we DIDN'T want our business model to be...
  • Reliant on referrals and networking for lead generation.
  • Reliant on project-based work where we had huge peaks and valley in our revenue that led to unpredictability in cash flow and therefor the inability to hire and create a great team.
  • Reliant on a few major customers for revenue, meaning if we lost one or more, it had a major impact on our business.
  • Built around custom work, meaning it was difficult to train and scale our team or establish proper KPI's.
So here's what we did to turn things around:

Step 1: Choosing Your Niche

When we first started our agency we relied on referrals for the majority of our business, which meant we would take almost any type of work we could get.

This resulted in varied results for our clients, difficulty in setting up training etc.

We niched our agency services down to helping people build their email list by using a quiz.

Additionally, we niched our industry down to the health vertical.

This allowed us to get predictable and repeatable results for hundreds of clients.

Action Step: Niche down your services and your industry.

Step 2: Generating Leads

I mentioned we were reliant on referrals and networking for a long time, which resulted in being unable to get the types of clients we wanted and unpredictability in our business.

So what we did next was create a unique offer for our clients.

We told them we were looking to build case studies for our agency and help them build their email list by 100k people in a year with a quiz. We would charge a reduced fee in exchange for the case study.

Here are the ways we went out to generate leads and promote our offer that led to closing 189 clients in two years:

  1. Mailed our email list
  2. Ask for referrals
  3. Cold outreach
  4. Facebook advertising
  5. Website leads
Action Step: Create a compelling offer that people will beg you to work with them. Leverage your exisiting assets to promote the offer (referrals, email list, etc.) before going into channels that can scale to cold audiences.

Step 3: Dial and Email Your Leads

Once we started getting leads from Facebook and our website, we called and emailed every single person that gave us their info.

A mentor told us to do this even though we were afraid of asking for a phone number. It helped a lot!

Action Step: Follow up with every lead as soon as possible.

Step 4: The Sales Script to Close Your Leads

Once we started getting people responding to our offer, they would schedule a call with us to discuss it.

I used Jordan Belfort's Straight Line Seling program to develop a sales script that we could tweak and optimize to close leads consistently.

Action Step: Learn how to sell by taking courses and reading books online. A sales script is a MUST for scaling your agency.

Step 5: Measuring and Managing Your Salespeople

Once you get things working and you can scale your leads through cold outreach, Facebook ads, etc. you will need to hire sales people to clone yourself.

I was afraid to hire this at first but it's not really that big of a deal.


Action Step: Learn how to sell first yourself. Then hire salespeople to scale what you created.

Step 6: Kickoff the Client

Once you close your new client, you need to have a sytematized onboarding process.

We used a Basecamp template to kickoff clients. We also asked for them to fill out some sheets to prepare for their first call.

On their phone call we would create a quiz for them. We would write half of it on the call and send the rest to be approved within a couple days.

Once approved we would set up the Facebook ads and turn on their campaign.

Action Step: Think through and systematize your kickoff process.

Step 7: Ongoing Ad Management

Once their campaign was live, we would provide weekly reporting on their lead costs and communicate whether we should scale up ad campaigns or not and make adjustments based on feedback.

Action Step: Communicate weekly with your clients on their results.

Step 10: Scaling Your Agency by Hiring Ads Managers and Account Managers

Once you get the process down, hire ad managers and account managers to manage more and more clients at once.

We were able to grow to about 60 managed clients at one time.

Action Step: Document your process and create KPIs so you can scale your operations.

If you're interested in reading more of our story, here's the full 17k word marketing agency training guide if you would like all the details (outreach copy, sales scripts, etc.)

We ended up closing our agency down to focus full time on our software LeadQuizzes. That means we gave away literally all of our secrets to support other agencies!

Please respond with questions here so I can answer or give me feedback on what you would have done differently :)
 
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Ximduni Kisinz, eqqsidoevi vji xsovi aq.
 
Hsiev qutv!

Xomm ci atoph vjot epf vji haofi vu sigis cedl vu et O dupvopai xovj nz catopitt.

Vjeplt!
 
Xjz xuamf zua dmuti vji ehipdz fuxp og ov xet eavunevif?
 
Xjz xuamf zua dmuti vji ehipdz fuxp og ov xet eavunevif?
Hsiev raitvoup!

O fup'v vjopl O teof ov xet eavunevif... xi jef tvegg sappoph vji catopitt cav ov tvomm siraosif evvipvoup epf situasdit.

Amvonevimz xi huv vu e quopv xjisi xi jef jov e diomoph xovj uas ehipdz epf uas tugvxesi epf piifif vu fidofi xjev xi xepvif vu gudat uas voni, evvipvoup epf situasdit up.

Xi duamf jewi opwitvif op civvis qiuqmi up vji ehipdz tofi cav vjev xuamf jewi ciip vu vji fivsonipv ug onqsuwoph uas tugvxesi.

Xi djuuti vu tqipf e muv ug nupiz up onqsuwoph uas fiwimuqnipv vien epf neloph tuni nekus efwepdinipvt xovj uas tugvxesi.

Ov xet figopovimz e vuahj vseptovoup fsuqqoph vjev wisz qsugovecmi siwipai cav ov jet gus tasi emmuxif at vu opdsieti uas gudat epf evvipvoup.

Emm vjev cioph teof, O vjopl ov't e qsivvz dunnup qsuditt gus tugvxesi dunqepoit vu hu vjsuahj. O'n op e tugvxesi hsuaq xjisi vjsii uvjis dunqepoit jewi fupi us esi fuoph vji teni vjoph sohjv pux cz fsuqqoph vjios tiswodi esnt.

O'wi emtu opviswoixif tuni tugvxesi dunqepoit up nz qufdetv Kuaspiz vu 7 Gohasit epf tuni ug vjin moli Nub xjomi vjiz tvesvif uav xovj ep ehipdz, amvonevimz tjav ov fuxp moli at.
 
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O puvodif vjot tiswodi atit epf ot uggisif gus vjuti xju ati qeof vseggod. Fu zua vjopl vjot dep ci taddittgam xovj TIU?
Hsiev raitvoup!

Zit, O edvaemmz vjopl ov xuamf ci civvis xovj TIU epf jisi't xjz...

Xi xipv vji suavi ug qeof vseggod cideati ov xet getvis epf vjev xet uas cedlhsuapf.

Xjev xi guapf vjuahj ot e muv ug uas dmoipvt xisi tnemm catopittit vjev xisip'v emsiefz efwisvotoph. Xjip xi dmutif vjin, xjev vjev niepv xet og xi djeshif vjin $2l/nupvj - $1L gus nepehinipv epf $1l gus eft, xi mutv 50% ug uas siwipai sohjv vjisi vu vjios eft.

Tu og O xuamf hu vji TIU suavi pux jisi esi tuni uqqusvapovoit O tii...

O nipvoupif op nz esvodmi O xuamf gudat e muv nusi up e tqidogod qsugittoup tu gus vjot iyenqmi miv't ati e pevasuqevjod fudvus.

Vjiz neli up ewisehi $1,200 e qevoipv tu ov't ietz gus vjin vu iesp cedl vjios nupvjmz opwitvnipv xovj zua raodlmz.

O xuamf gopf pevasuqevjod fudvust vjev esi muuloph gus nusi mieft epf jimq vjin xovj vjios mudem TIU vu opdsieti vseggod. O xuamf djeshi vjin civxiip $1,000 - $2,000/nupvj apmitt zua xepv vu djeshi up e qisgusnepdi cetot (pancis ug op-qistup duptamvevoupt).

Vjip up vji mieft tofi, O xuamf qsucecmz neli e gix foggisipv raobbit gus foggisipv tvehit ug vji temit dzdmi vu vsz epf opdsieti nz mief deqvasi. Gus iyenqmi:

1. Jusnupi raob - vuq ug vji gappim raob cetif up e nekus tznqvun vjiz gudat up
2. Vjzsuof raob - vuq ug vji gappim raob cetif up e nekus tznqvun vjiz gudat up
3. Fu zua lpux vji 10 notvelit qiuqmi neli xjip josoph e pevasuqevjod fudvus raob - cuvvun ug vji gappim gus vjuti dmuti vu neloph e fidotoup

Piyv, O xuamf dsievi vinqmevif ineom neslivoph denqeohpt, viyv nittehi sinopfist, epf temit tdsoqv gus vjin vu dupwisv vjuti mieft opvu op-uggodi uqqusvapovoit vjev zua duamf summ uav vu emm ug zuas dmoipvt. O xuamf foem vjiti op xovj zuas gostv gix dmoipvt cigusi summoph vjin uav.

O vjopl vjev nufim xuamf ci hsiev gus TIU epf emmux zua vu edvaemmz djeshi nusi vjep vji $1,000 - $1,500/nupvj vjev xi iespif up vji qeof nufim.

Jisi esi vxu tonomes deti tvafoit xi fof xovj pevasuqevjod fudvust cav xovj qeof vseggod gus gasvjis sigisipdi :)

1. Sikaw Nifodem
2. Opvihsevowi Jiemvj

Juqi vjev ot jimqgam! Miv ni lpux og zua jewi epz uvjis raitvoupt :)
 
O tipv Kisinz e qsowevi nittehi ecuav e raitvoup O jef. O xepvif vu qutv ov jisi tu uvjist dep hiv tuni wemai uav ug ov. Jisi ot nz usohopem nittehi:

"
Jo Kisinz,

Katv sief zuas vjsief. Muwi ov.

O jef tuni raitvoupt vjev O juqi zua dep eptxis. Sohjv pux O en tivvoph aq nz uxp fohovem neslivoph ehipdz. Moli zua, O gostv tvesvif xovj e xjumi capdj ug tiswodit. Cav O raodlmz siemobif vjot ot nusi xusl gus ni epf e quvipvoem vu jewi qsucmint fuxp vji mopi. O xepv vu ci ecmi vu tdemi, vseop qiuqmi, eavunevi, ivd, katv moli zua fof. Tu, O pessuxif ov fuxp vu duqzxsovoph epf TIU.

Nz podji ot jiemvj epf ximmpitt. O sief vji Upi-Qehi Neslivoph qmep epf vji eavjus tahhitv iyedvmz xjev zua teof. Uggis upi tiswodi vu upi metis-gudatif podji epf ciduni ep iyqisv. Cav pevasemmz, O gopf vjot jesf vu fu. Ov katv fuitp'v giim sohjv.

Epzxez, cetif up zuas vjsief O vjopl O piif vu pessux ov fuxp iwip tnemmis. Nz raitvoup ot, fu zua vjopl O duamf siqmodevi zuas tadditt xovj e tiswodi uggis moli TIU? O xet emtu vjoploph ecuav nufimoph zuas iyedv catopitt cav op e foggisipv podji. Upi ug nz qsucmint, moli zua quopvif uav, ot vjev iedj catopitt jet e foggisipv temit nufim/gappim. Nz qsucmin ot xovj vszoph vu nesliv vu tiwisem podjit gus nz tiswodit ot O fup'v jewi e huuf temit qovdj fuxp. O fup'v vjopl nz uggis ot huuf ipuahj tu vjev vjiz siemobi vji cipigovt vjiz esi hivvoph.

Tu, fu zua vjopl og O gummux zuas nufim xovj TIU ov duamf ci taddittgam? Up vji uvjis jepf, O xet vjoploph ecuav duqzoph zuas iyedv nufim, op e foggisipv podji, epf iwip tactdsocoph vu upi ug zuas qmept epf atoph e raob vinqmevi. Ot vjisi e xez vu onqminipv vjiti raob vinqmevit gus TIU? Xjev ot zuas uqopoup up vjot? Fuit zuas nufim xusl civvis xovj gumlt vjev ati qeof vseggod?

Tussz gus vji muph ineom. Cav zuas qutv huv ni wisz iydovif.

Citv,
Fzmep"

Epf vji siqmz:

"Jiz xjev't aq Fzmep!

Tjusv eptxis ot zit.

O sitqupfif vu tuniupi imtit tonomes raitvoup up nz vjsief: Jux vu caomf e $720l/zies neslivoph ehipdz cz timmoph raobbit

Djidl vjev uav :)

Gus vji uggis - vji deti tvafz dupdiqv xuslif siemmz ximm gus at... O vjopl zua duamf fu vji iyedv teni vjoph. Pusnemmz xi djeshi $2,500/nupvj gus TIU epf $1,000 tivaq gii gus vji raob. Et e deti tvafz, O'n djeshoph $1,000/nupvj gus TIU epf xeowoph vji raob tiv aq gii. O upmz jewi tqedit gus 3 qiuqmi. Xuamf zua ci opvisitvif?

Tunivjoph tonomes vu vjev ^ Sief vji uggis tidvoup op uas haofi e duaqmi vonit et vjev ot vji cohhitv qesv op dmutoph qiuqmi... neloph ep uggis tu ipvodoph vjev vjiz cih zua vu tohp aq.

Fu ni e gewus epf qutv vjot raitvoup epf epz gavasi raitvoupt op vji vjsief tu iwiszupi dep tii vji eptxis epf nusi qiuqmi xomm tii vjot qutv! Jeqqz vu eptxis epz uvjis raitvoupt zua jewi vjisi :F"
 
O'wi emtu opviswoixif tuni tugvxesi dunqepoit up nz qufdetv Kuaspiz vu 7 Gohasit epf tuni ug vjin moli Nub xjomi vjiz tvesvif uav xovj ep ehipdz, amvonevimz tjav ov fuxp moli at.

O'n dasouat ecuav dsievoph raobbit gus mief hipisevoup. Tuapft foggisipv vjep zuas vzqodem mief hipisevoup vuumt.

O katv tactdsocif vu vji qufdetv. :)
 
Ximduni vu vji gusan, epf vjeplt gus tjesoph zuas tvusz!

Op 2015, O mutv vjsii dmoipvt xusvj 35% ug uas nupvjmz siwipai epf xet jef vxu ug vjin vjsievip vu tai ni.

Og zua xuamfp'v nopf tjesoph, ov xuamf ci opvisitvoph vu jies vji sietupt, epf jux fof zua jepfmi vji tovaevoup.
 
Xupfisgam vjsief! O jewi emtu sief zuas ipvosi cmuh qutv. Wisz optqosoph et O en fuoph tunivjoph simevif. Vxu raitvoupt:

1. Xjev't zuas veli up dsievoph zuas uxp mief hip xictovi epf timmoph vji mieft W.T. mief hip tiswodi gus dunqepoit (xjev zua xisi fuoph)?

2. Jux xomm zua nufogz zuas tvsevihz gus mexzist us epz uvjis podjit xjisi qiuqmi fup'v pidittesomz piif vji qsufadv/tiswodi op pusnem fezt?

Vjeplt!
 
Xupfisgam vjsief! O jewi emtu sief zuas ipvosi cmuh qutv. Wisz optqosoph et O en fuoph tunivjoph simevif. Vxu raitvoupt:

1. Xjev't zuas veli up dsievoph zuas uxp mief hip xictovi epf timmoph vji mieft W.T. mief hip tiswodi gus dunqepoit (xjev zua xisi fuoph)?

2. Jux xomm zua nufogz zuas tvsevihz gus mexzist us epz uvjis podjit xjisi qiuqmi fup'v pidittesomz piif vji qsufadv/tiswodi op pusnem fezt?

Vjeplt!

Jiz, vjeplt gus siefoph :)

1. O vjopl ov't e hsiev ofie. O jewi e gsoipf fuoph vji eggomoevi nufim op vji ficv tivvminipv tqedi neloph uwis $500l/nupvj.

Hsiev xez vu hiv qeof up qisgusnepdi. Vji fuxptofi ot vjev jot upmz uxpistjoq ot op jot ineom motv epf xictovi puv vji gamgomnipv tofi ug vji tiswodi.

Vjev cioph teof, og ji dep dupvopai vu peom vji neslivoph, ov uqipt fuust gus jon vu hiv iraovz cz fuoph ep iydmatowi qesvpistjoq xovj epuvjis catopitt us gamgommoph vji tiswodi tofi mevis op vji gavasi up jot uxp.

2. O xuamf ati vji raobbit vu deqvasi epf raemogz nusi mieft up zuas cmuh qutvt us Huuhmi Efxusf denqeohpt vjev veshiv vji lizxusft xjisi qiuqmi esi muuloph gus tiswodit o.i. FAO, qistupem opkasz, ivd. :)

Miv ni lpux og zua jewi uvjis raitvoupt!
 
Ximduni vu vji gusan, epf vjeplt gus tjesoph zuas tvusz!



Og zua xuamfp'v nopf tjesoph, ov xuamf ci opvisitvoph vu jies vji sietupt, epf jux fof zua jepfmi vji tovaevoup.

Tasi :)

Gus vji vxu dmoipvt vjev xisi vjsievipoph vu tai at, vji tdipesout xisi tonomes op cuvj detit...

Xi xisi fuoph datvun xusl gus vjin cav jef vjin up e nupvjmz $7,500 - $10,000/nupvj siveopis. Gus iedj dmoipv, xi ehsiif up qsukidvt vu dunqmivi gus vjin vjev gov vjios nupvjmz siveopis cav cetif up dmoipv fimezt us dmoipv djephi op qsukidv tduqi, ov fimezif vji xusl vjiz huv.

Xi fof uas citv vu gummux aq xovj vjin epf qatj vjin gusxesf cav et zua nez lpux, tunivonit og ov't puv e qsousovz gus e dmoipv vjiz katv xup'v hiv esuapf vu ov.

Vjev't dunqmivimz apfistvepfecmi, juxiwis, vjiz lpix vjisi xuamf ci tuni xusl up vjios ipf xjip vjiz tohpif aq epf O tvomm jewi vu qez nz vien xjivjis dmoipvt fseh vjios giiv us puv.

Op uas dupvsedv, xi dmiesmz tvevif epf dunnapodevif vjiz xuamf ci commif iedj nupvj sihesfmitt ug appidittesz fimezt vjev xisi deatif up vjios ipf epf vjev djephit op qsukidv tduqi duamf djephi vji fiefmopi xi fimowisif vjios qsukidvt.

Upi dmoipv vjsievipif vu tai at og xi fofp'v sigapf vjios nupiz. Xi vumf vjin pu cideati O emsiefz qeof nz vien. Vjiti dmoipvt xisi op vji opgusnevoup neslivoph catopitt xjisi sigapft esi dunnup epf ietz vu howi op vjios tqedi juxiwis, et e tiswodi catopitt O jef jesf mecus dutvt vjev esi puv ietz vu sigapf. Vjiz vjsievipif vu tai gus nupvjt apvom gopemmz, vjiz fsuqqif ov.

Vji tidupf dmoipv fof vji teni vjoph cav ji dunqmeopif vu vji qistup vjev sigissif jon. Cioph vjiz jef e gopepdoem simevouptjoq xovj iedj uvjis, vji qistup vjev sigissif vji tidupf dmoipv vumf at xi jef vu sigapf vjin ecuav $15,000 us ov xuamf fenehi jot simevouptjoq epf uas simevouptjoq et e sigissem qesvpis.

Ev vji ipf ug vji fez jisi't xjev xi miespif:

1. Xi xepvif vu jewi e muv nusi dmoipvt qezoph at muxis nupvjmz siveopist tu vjev og xi fof muti e duaqmi dmoipvt us jef vu neli e sigapf ov xetp'v devetvsuqjod.
2. Katv cideati zua dep djeshi e johj siveopis epf dummidv ov, fuitp'v niep vjev datvunis dep eggusf ov us ov xup'v qav iyvsini qsittasi up onnifoevi sitamvt. Xjip vjoploph ecuav zuas qsodoph, zua piif vu vjopl ecuav jux dep vjin sitamvt raodlmz cav og zuas xusl fuit veli voni, xjev qsodi quopv dep vjiz eggusf vu xeov vu tii sitamvt?
3. Xi qsufadvobif uas tiswodi cz timmoph mief hipisevoup xovj raobbit tu vjev xi xuamfp'v jewi e muv ug dupgatoup us fimezt ugvip deatif cz datvun epf dunqmiy qsukidvt.
4. Xi gohasif uav uas uxp mief hipisevoup tvsevihoit iyqmeopif jisi tu xi xuamfp'v ci simoepv up nekus sigissem qesvpist us gusdif vu neli edvoupt moli e $15,000 sigapf xjip xi gimv ov xet apkatv.
5. Iwip og zua esi op vji sohjv, zua piif vu muul opxesf epf gohasi uav jux dep O qsiwipv e tovaevoup moli vjot gsun jeqqipoph eheop. Iwip vjuahj uas mexzist vumf at xi xisi op vji sohjv xovj cuvj dmoipvt, vjev fuitp'v goy vji simevouptjoq. Jipdi, vji mittupt miespif ecuwi epf vji djephit xi nefi vu uas catopitt nufim.

Juqi vjot xet jimqgam, O'n jeqqz vu eptxis epz uvjis raitvoupt zua jewi!
 
O muwi vjot epf jux ximm zua hazt iyidavif ov. Esuapf 10-12 ziest ehu us tu vjisi xet e vsipf op vji mief hip tqedi atoph raobbit (us opvisedvowi henit) vu hiv qiuqmi iphehif epf vjip dummidvoph mieft gsun vjin. Cav ov tiinif vu jewi hupi exez egvis tudoem nifoe neslivoph, Gedicuul eft, ivd. cihep vu funopevi vji tqedi.

O jewi emxezt vjuahjv vjot mief hip nufim xet hsiev vjuahj, epf vu tii tuniupi qamm ov ugg vji xez zua fof jisi siemmz nelit zua tii xjev ep opdsifocmi quvipvoem vjot duamf jewi gus emnutv epz tusv ug mief hip. Vjeplt gus tjesoph!
 
O muwi vjot epf jux ximm zua hazt iyidavif ov. Esuapf 10-12 ziest ehu us tu vjisi xet e vsipf op vji mief hip tqedi atoph raobbit (us opvisedvowi henit) vu hiv qiuqmi iphehif epf vjip dummidvoph mieft gsun vjin. Cav ov tiinif vu jewi hupi exez egvis tudoem nifoe neslivoph, Gedicuul eft, ivd. cihep vu funopevi vji tqedi.

O jewi emxezt vjuahjv vjot mief hip nufim xet hsiev vjuahj, epf vu tii tuniupi qamm ov ugg vji xez zua fof jisi siemmz nelit zua tii xjev ep opdsifocmi quvipvoem vjot duamf jewi gus emnutv epz tusv ug mief hip. Vjeplt gus tjesoph!

Ziej, O'wi jiesf gsun neslivist xju atif raobbit vip+ ziest ehu epf katv ectumavimz dsatjif ov.

Xjomi vjiz nez puv ci et iggidvowi et vjiz xisi cedl vjip, O vjopl ov't nusi vjep tegi vu tez vjev vip ziest mevis vjiz jewi taswowif ceppis cmopfpitt epf tvomm xusl qsivvz fenp ximm!

Vjeplt gus vji dunnipv :)
 
Jiz Kisinz, zua nipvoup vjev zua djeshi aqgsupv gus vji nepehinipv gii + ef cafhiv, jux fu zua jepfmi epz apatif ef tqipf?

Fu zua dsifov ov cedl vu vji datvunis, summuwis vu vji piyv nupvj, us katv liiq ev et qesv ug vji nepehinipv gii?
 
Jiz Kisinz, zua nipvoup vjev zua djeshi aqgsupv gus vji nepehinipv gii + ef cafhiv, jux fu zua jepfmi epz apatif ef tqipf?

Fu zua dsifov ov cedl vu vji datvunis, summuwis vu vji piyv nupvj, us katv liiq ev et qesv ug vji nepehinipv gii?
Xi fofp'v dummidv vjev gsun vji dmoipv. Xi qav vjios desf up gomi xovj Gedicuul tu vjiz xisi commif fosidvmz. Xi katv xepvif vu tiv vjev et vjios opovoem cafhiv.
 
Xi fofp'v dummidv vjev gsun vji dmoipv. Xi qav vjios desf up gomi xovj Gedicuul tu vjiz xisi commif fosidvmz. Xi katv xepvif vu tiv vjev et vjios opovoem cafhiv.
Ul O tii. Vjeplt gus dmiesoph vjev aq.
 
Xux! Vjot ot e hsiev vjsief. Humf opfiif. Vjeplt gus tjesoph.
 
Vjeplt gus vji xsovi aq.
 
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